I'm Sorry

notaverysmartman · 4 months

It seems the Canadian protestors have arrived

KazakiLion · 4 months

It's a nice sentiment, and as a gay Christian I wish this sort of thing happend more often... But...

The group pictured in the photo is a bigoted church preaching the same old hate-the-sin, love-the-sinner rhetoric. They quite explicitly think that gays could/should change.

Here's the citation. http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/07/01/re-christians-protesting-at-pride These sort of pictures are touching, but they loose their effect when you know the sentiment behind it isn't true :/

EDIT: Sorry for not being clear enough in my original post. Pictures from this event have been posted and discussed multiple times over in /r/lgbt and /r/ainbow, but I didn't realize that this post was in /r/pics.

This group isn't your warm and fuzzy inclusive Christian group. They lure confused and questioning LGBT youth into their services to provide deliberate ambiguity on whether gays can change their sexual orientation. The longer you stay, the stronger their message becomes: Through Christ and our "behavior modification", we can teach you to become straight or celibacy, in order to shed your sinful gay "lifestyle".

There are plenty LGBT affirming churches such as the United Churches of Christ, the Episcopal Church, Presbyterian Church (USA), and Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism. The group in the photo however is anything but.

deltron3030 posted some great links in a reply, including the history of this photograph and the people in it, in this Change.org piece entitled, "An Apology that LGBT People Shouldn't Accept".

lurker_247 · 4 months

Well how about that, not all Christians belong to WBC.

wrileys · 4 months

T-shirts with "I'm Sorry" on them. Must be in Canada.

pizzaroo · 4 months

Looking at this picture then turning on the TV and seeing Mr. Frothy winning so many primaries is saddening

MintyClinch · 4 months

if i was gay i would feel patronized. this is great and all but what's the point

Rocker232 · 4 months

Just proves you can't judge a whole group of people from the actions done by a few of them.

ixeres · 4 months

At first, I thought this was actually an honest and sincere sentiment, and for a moment I thought that perhaps the tide could turn and people were actually learning what their hate was doing to lgbt-inclined people.

... Then I researched it, and as people in this thread have pointed out... The truth behind this sentiment is just as ugly as any. It's more of the same 'love the sinner/hate the sin' rhetoric that I find extremely frustrating.

a_cat_not_a_puppet · 4 months

NOW APOLOGIZE ABOUT THE CRUSADES.

orthogonalcode · 4 months

Is this in Chicago?

Morgan-Explosion · 4 months

Even National Rent-a-fence is sorry...

DCMFDOOM · 4 months

Does the title "I'm Sorry" remind anyone else of the DP Oil Spill in South Park?

I_LIKE_PORNistaken · 4 months

What is with reddit lately? Two days in a row, posts about sexuality are rife with people confusing a call to tolerance with a call to adoption. "It's my right to have a negative opinion of different people." Well, of course it is. And no one gives a shit unless you feel strongly enough to, say, stake your claim to the right to hold that opinion in a forum that isn't about you. What you call keeping your opinion to yourself is really the subtle but concrete embracing of asshole ideas. So long as this informs your humor, politics, or relationships, it absolutely DOES hurt people.

aa430 · 4 months

I have mixed feelings about someone apologizing on behalf of someone else, but I can recognize good intention when I see it.

Also, the very tall girl in the back is so casual.

LiquidPee · 4 months

BP Oil

raddat · 4 months

Did anyone else read the Tshirts in the voice of that oil CEO from southpark?

herrproctor · 4 months

Anybody know what organization/congregation this is?

brusky · 4 months

What a bunch of sorry people

drosser · 4 months

It's like I tell my friends, I don't have a problem with Jesus; I really admire him, it's just that some of his self-appointed representatives here on earth are real assholes. And apparently some of them are pretty nifty, too!

[deleted] · 4 months

It's moments like this that make me proud to be a Christian.

Thereminz · 4 months

apologists: It's like your Dad beats your siblings within an inch of their lives and all you say is sorry, instead of calling child protective services.

Ducktart · 4 months

It's nice to see this as a Christian. We get a lot of bad press on Reddit.

rippedlugan · 4 months

"I used to be a Bible banging homophobe." This one hit me pretty hard. I'm sorry too.

steve0suprem0 · 4 months

as a christian, i'm routinely appalled by the behavior of other christians. except the gay ones.

fubarlphie · 4 months

If homosexuality is a sin, then gays are just like Christians. We're all sinners too. (They should also be allowed to marry each other like everyone else.)

bobosaurs · 4 months

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

The_Painted_Man · 4 months

"I'm sorry, I can't hear you over how tolerant I am...."

nuclearghostz · 4 months

Christians actually being Christ like. Who would have thought.

secondsabre · 4 months

Seen it before, but powerful and awesome. Full upvotes.

PigFarmington · 4 months

Doing it right

enjoylol · 4 months

and this was the first thing that came to mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXBBFdUdcOI

webhead311 · 4 months

TIL what number to call when i want to rent fences

Sheriff_Gene_Freak · 4 months

Wait...there ARE Blackhawks fans with common sense?!

*Edit: GO BLUES.

RoadWarrior7779 · 4 months

I like the rainbow umbrella they brought for the added effect.

zandyman · 4 months

Are these tied to: http://www.themarinfoundation.org/imsorry/

Marin foundation's a good group, Andrew Marin's a good guy, and making some significant progress in getting Christians to stop the anti-gay rhetoric and realize how they (we) should behave.

No evidence that these people are related, but it seems possible?

sehajodido · 4 months

faith in humanity...rising.

rlrguy · 4 months

I am Christian who supports gay rights. Whenever my super fundamental Christian friends starts to argue against them, I always end the conversation by showing them two pictures and asking which represents love? This picture, or West Borough Baptist Church holding God hates Fags signs

roxiimoronic · 4 months

this is what my faith looks like, :) love and reaching out... this is the truth at the core of how i and all my friends, and my church lives out Christianity. :)

Tenshik · 4 months

Those are just the reasonable and kind-hearted Christians. They aren't indicative of a whole. Please don't judge us based off them alone. There are plenty of evil, hateful, jealous and sexually restrictive prudes among us that believe we are the majority. /s

xdonald04 · 4 months

We are sorry.

prayforwar · 4 months

makes me want to cry... very moving- takes a big, compassionate person to say sorry

[deleted] · 4 months

i'm sorry the organisation we support is homophobic, but not enough to stop. also, these signs will surely make up for the years of hate and bigotry.

there now gays, it's all ok now. what balls.

preske · 4 months

I find it fascinating how different countries hate the Church for different reasons. In Belgium, we hate the church for the centuries of repression, lies, mooching, stealing, plundering, child-abuse (especially the child-abuse),...

While there are exceptions (like with all things), the extreme believe in the Bible and everything it says is pretty much non-existent among the people. Catholic schools don't teach creationism, most people here don't even know what it that is. Most of us know the "God created the world in six days, and then he took a nap." story, but they treat it at such, a story.

at_work_wee · 4 months

I know you're sorry.

Now apologize

blowconfused · 4 months

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Sirdannykins · 4 months

warms the heart a bit.

Half_Time_Show · 4 months

As a Christian, I love it when others Christians decide to read the rest of the bible. :)

Pastapostle · 4 months

Those can't be Americans.

ilestledisko · 4 months

Stuff like this makes my heart melt. I love you guys.

Annas_Bananas · 4 months

I love these kind of people.

Jelway723 · 4 months

So is this a picture of REAL Christians apologizing for how bible thumping "christians" act? Or is it a group of atheists apologizing for how the world views all of the churches BECAUSE of the bible thumpers?

onlysaysfaggot · 4 months

Faggot.

Talvanen · 4 months

I think I'm gay.

Not because I find males attractive or want to bang dudes, but because I really dislike homophobes. It really breaks my heart when I see hate crime (including homophobia).

I can't understand it. If a person wants to marry another person of the same sex, why the fuck does it matter? Even atheists are homophobes. It fucking angers me sometimes.

Don't get me wrong, I use the word fag when I was younger, but I've changed. At the time, I wasn't even against gays but I still used it. I've stopped now. However, I still make gay jokes (not derogatory) but I accept homosexuals and I don't know why others wouldn't. It's a shame coz gays are cool.

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