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COD logic (imgur.com)

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[–]natb84 331 points332 points ago

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Yeah and in black ops using dogs was more powerful than a helicopter... Much more powerful...

[–]fruitynoodles 103 points104 points ago

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Throw gas at them, they cover their faces with their paws. It's kinda cute.

[–]Zerothe0 27 points28 points ago

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Aw it suffocated! How adorable.

[–]EternalDensity 69 points70 points ago

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Helicopters have paws?

[–]haitigotpwned 12 points13 points ago

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did not know this haha

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    [–]veils1de 62 points63 points ago

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    Dont know if you played Civ IV but helicopters can be defeated by bows and arrows from enemies in the stone age. Quite sad

    [–]Flatline334 45 points46 points ago

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    You know you're a terrible helicopter pilot when...

    [–]icantsurf 29 points30 points ago

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    God damnit Jim, ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS CLIMB.

    [–]Asakari 14 points15 points ago

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    Elephants stayed useful against every unit right until the modern age.

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        [–]snubdeity 178 points179 points ago

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        Fuckin' WaW dogs.

        I only played Hardcore, dogs were absolute rape machines. Pretty much an instawin.

        [–]orthag 69 points70 points ago

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        Find a corner to hide in.

        [–]dtptampa 95 points96 points ago

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        Those motherfuckers will sniff you out.

        [–]sqrage 57 points58 points ago

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        Load out without explosives or weed.

        [–]theoneyouhate 24 points25 points ago

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        silly they don't go after weed there after that high quality cocaine. for every ounce they find they only have to turn in half if you know what i mean

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          [–]GuitarWizard90 14 points15 points ago

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          shoot them...they aren't invincible.

          [–]ChuckInPower 37 points38 points ago

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          Reported you to PETA2 Inhumane treatment

          [–]IRCZT 4 points5 points ago

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          yes the hell they are. at least every time i shot them. that game fucking hates me.

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              [–]FerrignosGlutes 31 points32 points ago

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              They need to do way instain mother.

              [–]TheFedUp99 17 points18 points ago

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              who kill thier babbys. becuse these babby cant frigth back?

              [–]RadioGuy2k 8 points9 points ago

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              it was on the news this mroing

              [–]NakedJewBoy 1 point2 points ago

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              A mother in ar

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                  [–]Probably_Fat 13 points14 points ago

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                  Nah, anytime the dogs come out I just switch to my knife and start slashing. As long as my back isn't exposed, I'll stack dog bodies up.

                  [–]iBetaTestedUrGF 3 points4 points ago

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                  If someone read this thread out of context it would sound really fucked up.

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                        [–]le_skunque 70 points71 points ago

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                        Lie in corner of map as a sniper, gets kicked for camping.

                        [–]cyberslick188 340 points341 points ago

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                        BF3 Logic

                        Getting shot at while flying jet

                        Jump out of jet, use rocket launcher to destroy other jet, parachute back into original jet.

                        [–]Leadpumper 103 points104 points ago

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                        I always liked

                        Get shot at while flying jet

                        Bail out of jet, use sniper rifle to kill pilot in chasing jet, parachute into his jet

                        [–]quitefunny 33 points34 points ago

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                        Do people not do this in other games?

                        [–]UltimateCrouton 34 points35 points ago

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                        I would love to see this pulled off in ARMA 2.

                        [–]anemoness 10 points11 points ago

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                        I wanna see them jump at all in ARMA 2.

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                            [–]evilGIR 17 points18 points ago

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                            Link for video

                            [–]Aiskhulos 23 points24 points ago

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                            This one is even more impressive.

                            [–]MrTurkle 2 points3 points ago

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                            That is fucking nuts. But I thought everyone always claims how realistic BF was?

                            [–]bobfoot1990 2 points3 points ago

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                            Wait, wait wait you mean this isn't realistic?

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                                [–]TarekIshmal 142 points143 points ago

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                                That video is why I bought that game.

                                [–]WoozleWuzzle 20 points21 points ago

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                                Link to video?

                                [–]nomnomdk 69 points70 points ago

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                                RendeZook

                                [–]Beiufin 48 points49 points ago

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                                I take your RendeZook and raise you a Jet Swap
                                Battlefield 3 - Jet Swap

                                [–]_YourMom 6 points7 points ago

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                                Damn, gravy... leave some for the rest of us!

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                                    [–][deleted] 12 points13 points ago

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                                    i hope four links are enough.

                                    [–]clothes_are_optional 29 points30 points ago

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                                    MOAR LINKS

                                    [–]Zebezd 5 points6 points ago

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                                    Well played. Hopefully you don't have a username-appropriate version of that. Still, wouldn't surprise me.

                                    [–]clothes_are_optional 7 points8 points ago

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                                    MOAR USERNAME-APPROPRIATE LINKS

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                                        [–]BennyBenassi 18 points19 points ago

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                                        BF3 Version

                                        BF1942 Version

                                        [–]anxiety_reader 8 points9 points ago

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                                        the BF1942 version is so much better, it really looks at first like he abandoned his plane...but then awesomeness ensues.

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                                            [–]StankyMung 5 points6 points ago

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                                            How about, get sniped out of chopper, chopper lands harmlessly. Sniper takes your bird.

                                            Talk about rage.

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                                              [–]sychosomat 206 points207 points ago

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                                              I imagine there are hundreds of 14 years olds out there who think being a sniper is like being some kind of super awesome action hero. "I want to be a sniper!!"

                                              Sure thing, try it out. Go into the woods, lay down and stay still for 2 days. Then go bang and come back. Bonus if you can convince a friend to come with binoculars, but you cannot speak with them except sparingly and in whispers.

                                              [–][deleted] 166 points167 points ago

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                                              Snipers often wait for hours before they make one shot. Factor in wind, bullet lag, and drop and sniping almost becomes like a math problem.

                                              [–]Ishmael12 287 points288 points ago

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                                              You don't take into account the rotation of the earth too?

                                              Fuckin Casuals.

                                              [–]Aperture_Kubi 120 points121 points ago

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                                              You only have to take into account gravity and the rotation of the earth when you're firing a rigged-together sniper rifle that requires the entire power output of a first world country.

                                              [–]Kirbyeggs 76 points77 points ago

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                                              Neon Genesis Evangelion? Where they have to fire that positron rifle that requires all of Japan's energy.

                                              [–]Whitestrake 49 points50 points ago

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                                              And he fucked up the shot lol.

                                              Awesome episode.

                                              [–]MaybeOptimist 5 points6 points ago

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                                              Pre or post Fukushima?

                                              (too soon?)

                                              [–]lesser_panjandrum 4 points5 points ago

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                                              Weirdly enough, during.

                                              [–]vadergeek 5 points6 points ago

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                                              And they need to use those advanced calculating computers to fire it properly. So, yes.

                                              [–]hacktivision 4 points5 points ago

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                                              And even with that the first shot failed.

                                              [–]SilentStrike 28 points29 points ago

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                                              I thought you had to if you were shooting a target from over 3/4 of a mile

                                              [–]lesser_panjandrum 23 points24 points ago

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                                              So that's why real snipers have to sit motionless for hours on end - their animation budget ran out.

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                                                  [–]deadstump 29 points30 points ago

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                                                  In the Iraq war snipers did much less of this infiltrate and wait and much more of the go to counter force roll where they would counter ambush. Or they would set up as a defensive position again to ambush the attackers. In both cases they would be much more likely to engage multiple targets rapidly. There are also the designated marksman who would act as a counter sniper for patrols, and where as not a sniper by definition they share many of the attributes.

                                                  And just as a note: I am no no way saying that snipers do not engage in the stalk, one shot, one kill, and out type of activity.

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                                                  [–]StankyMung 41 points42 points ago

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                                                  Then you remember the bullets are lasers and reach their destination instantly.

                                                  [–]WombatHerder 6 points7 points ago

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                                                  TC's right. I've played every COD since COD4 and noticed how maps are getting smaller and smaller, with less cover/grass fields/buildings/sniper spots. If IW/Treyarch are going on an anti-camping campaign, then they are also forcing out quality "marksmanship" (quotes because, hey its a video game). But now it just seems like COD is a host of kids jumped up on caffeine running around with SMG's. It's true what they said.. "No matter how much you like COD, once you go Battlefield you cannot really go back."

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                                                    [–]quitefunny 7 points8 points ago

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                                                    "Even the rotation of the earth factors in." ~every movie about snipers ever. And Metal Gear Solid.

                                                    [–]raoneill 27 points28 points ago*

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                                                    But most of the time, they just get sent out to sit in the woods for 3 days watching cows in a field whilst pissing in a bag for training and combat-readiness (and because, well, they've got to do something).

                                                    Though it reminds me of a time I was talking to a Royal Engineer who said when there was no work to do, they weren't allowed 'time off', so would disassemble and reassemble vehicles for practice/morale/fun/betterthandoingnothing. That was in Afghanistan so not a pretend warzone either.

                                                    [–]Bob_Munden 2 points3 points ago

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                                                    Snipers often wait hours for one shot, but that shot authorization isn't guaranteed, you can sit in a bush for a week, have sights on target and be denied the shot.

                                                    [–]LayzeeH 2 points3 points ago

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                                                    I met a former Navy Seal sniper instructor a few weeks ago, and he told me about all of the crazy factors that must be taken into consideration when taking a shot. He said that the way you pull the trigger can have an effect on the flight path of the bullet - jerk the trigger, and the extra vibration from that can alter the flight path of the bullet. Also the humidity must be taken into account. When it's more humid, there is more hydrogen in the air than there normally is. Because hydrogen is the lightest element on the periodic table, the air will be less dense, making it easier for the bullet to fly through the air. Additionally, the internal temperature of the round is a huge factor. The Seal said that when he was in sniper school, they were often made to hike up to the top of a cliff on freezing days, and then fire one round at a target below from a cold weapon. He started to carry his one round in his glove to keep it warm on the hike up, and he ended up hitting 3-4 inches higher on the target than anyone else.

                                                    TL;DR Navy Seal sniper instructor confirms that sniping is more math and science than simply shooting.

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                                                      [–]ed4649 7 points8 points ago

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                                                      I hope you played COD4 because what you said was one of the highlights of that game.

                                                      [–]atheist_maybe 9 points10 points ago

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                                                      Well, unless you are this guy.

                                                      [–]Roxy503 2 points3 points ago

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                                                      THAT KDR!

                                                      [–]FerrignosGlutes 11 points12 points ago

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                                                      They bang out there? I want to be a sniper!

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                                                        [–]conscioncience 429 points430 points ago

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                                                        125 years old

                                                        Model_1887.jpg

                                                        Best shotgun

                                                        [–]drury 256 points257 points ago

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                                                        Game developers also like to highlight AK-47 as superior to modern rifles, which is far from true.

                                                        [–]dtza 226 points227 points ago

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                                                        Well, the AK-47 is generally given the most recoil yet most damage of all the assault rifles in the game, which somewhat correlates with real life. The thing is that engagement distances in games like CoD are rarely over 50m, so recoil isn't as big a factor as it would be in longer distances, giving the AK-47 an edge over other ARs.

                                                        [–]Sloppy1sts 98 points99 points ago*

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                                                        Also, most recoil doesn't mean much when there's barely any to begin with. I've shot an AR-15 (civilian semi-auto M16) and the recoil, while not crazy, is clearly more than enough to make holding the sights on a target while firing full-auto very difficult (No, I'm not claiming to be a firearms expert [though I do own a fair amount of guns, myself] but I'm sure any veterans can verify this).

                                                        [–]StarWolfe 160 points161 points ago

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                                                        Don't soldiers almost never use full-auto?

                                                        [–]Sloppy1sts 118 points119 points ago*

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                                                        Exactly. Even with an M4 capable of F/A fire, you nearly always fire in short bursts or semi-auto.

                                                        [–]5thAccount-LostPWs 224 points225 points ago

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                                                        In my entire career in the Marines, there were only two times I used full auto. Once in combat suppressing fire for myself charging towards the enemy, and the only other time was doing training with FBI SWAT teams that had firing a mag on full auto part of their basic shooting drills.

                                                        So it's very true, you almost never use full auto. The M16s that our grunts in the Marines get don't even have full auto as a firing mode. The M4s do, and with some training it's definitely within the realm of possibility to stay on target while firing a full mag on full auto. You wouldn't be any further than 25 meters away, though.

                                                        [–]whyoulittle 204 points205 points ago

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                                                        Once in combat suppressing fire for myself charging towards the enemy

                                                        that's ballzy man, I don't even do that in bf3.

                                                        [–]cralledode 176 points177 points ago

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                                                        Because in real life you can sprint while firing.

                                                        [–]tallandlanky 101 points102 points ago

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                                                        Because in real life you don't respawn.

                                                        [–]5thAccount-LostPWs 59 points60 points ago

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                                                        I don't really prefer to do that but in certain situations you do what you have to lol.

                                                        [–]MastrWalkrOfSky 49 points50 points ago

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                                                        Mind sharing the story? I'd love to hear about it! It's not very often that you hear stories of people charging in today's battles...

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                                                            [–]ThereIsAThingForThat 25 points26 points ago

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                                                            Isn't it gonna run out of bullets on full-auto in a couple of seconds anyways?

                                                            [–]xaronax 28 points29 points ago

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                                                            Less than 1 full second.

                                                            Edit: Ok, so roughly 1.9 seconds.

                                                            [–]cralledode 27 points28 points ago

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                                                            Did you just go check, or do some math? One is much cooler than the other.

                                                            [–]5thAccount-LostPWs 18 points19 points ago

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                                                            Yeah it takes no time at all, so it's easy enough to just get used to the way it feels when it's firing and control the stream of bullets.

                                                            In the context of what I was talking about earlier, I was giving out about 7 or 8 round bursts directed towards the guys shooting at me. Went through a few mags... It's damn near impossible to hit anyone while you are running and on full auto, so I was just keeping their heads down basically.

                                                            Edit: Found a video with someone laying it on with the M4.

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                                                              [–]razqel[!] 2 points3 points ago

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                                                              Curious, would faking suppression fire (via sound system or shooting blanks) have the same psychological effect on the enemy? Or do they actually need to feel the bullets impacting near them to know to take cover?

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                                                                [–]youstolemyname 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                This is the secret to Counter Strike.

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                                                                  [–]Nickeless 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                  You never go full auto.

                                                                  Sorry had to be said.

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                                                                    [–]ohwilson 15 points16 points ago

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                                                                    Hey, the soldiers in that game can regenerate, take out whole armies and bring people back fully healed from near death in about 4 seconds. They're like superheroes. Recoil is peanuts to them.

                                                                    [–]MstrKief 9 points10 points ago

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                                                                    My dad (a great marksman) owns an AR-15, there is something called bump firing, where you rock your finger on the trigger, making the rifle fire fast. My dad is still quite accurate when using this method. Yes this is on your hip, but it is still accurate at high fire rate :)

                                                                    [–]Sloppy1sts 12 points13 points ago

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                                                                    I know about bump-firing and I'm guessing he's accurate at relatively close range unless he's just really ridiculously good.

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                                                                        [–]Kasuli 7 points8 points ago

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                                                                        Never mind the recoil, the AK is too damn accurate in the game.

                                                                        [–]owdee 39 points40 points ago

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                                                                        The AK is not an inherently inaccurate gun. I'm not sure why people think that.

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                                                                        [–]owdee 20 points21 points ago

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                                                                        Ah I see. Then perhaps those people should keep their mouths (or keyboards) shut on the issue until they do proper research or have first-hand experience firing the rifle platform. Video games will always fictionalize firearm performance in an attempt to keep the game fair for the players. In real life, firearm designers are not trying to keep it fair for the enemy.

                                                                        [–]StruckingFuggle 4 points5 points ago

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                                                                        Video games will always fictionalize firearm performance in an attempt to keep the game fair for the players. In real life, firearm designers are not trying to keep it fair for the enemy.

                                                                        One of these days, a game needs to have an "unbalanced" mode where guns have as accurate a performance as can be modeled, for better or worse. Just because it'd be interesting.

                                                                        [–]adlp 7 points8 points ago

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                                                                        it wont be interesting because everybody would be using the same gun. i would guess it would be this in a CQB game like COD.

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                                                                          [–]Niloc0 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                          Wait, you mean hitting someone with the stock ISN'T a more effective way to kill someone that shooting them?

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                                                                                  [–]Magnon 15 points16 points ago

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                                                                                  I think it's more that in games bullet caliber often dictates damage, and with most modern rifles firing 5.56 the 7.62 of AKs comes out ahead in damage.

                                                                                  [–]singularissententia 7 points8 points ago

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                                                                                  Although it may seem counter-intuitive at first, having a higher caliber and more muzzle velocity doesn't necessarily dictate killing power.
                                                                                  It's somewhat well known that the 5.56 is actually more lethal in most cases than the 7.62.
                                                                                  The reason is that the 5.56, upon entering a body, will tumble, which will transfer a lot of energy to the target.
                                                                                  However, the 7.62 has so much energy, that it will often go right through the target, which is actually less preferred because less energy is actually transferred.
                                                                                  I can't recall the caliber at the moment, but rifle manufacturers in Russia actually recognized this and created a new, smaller caliber for a newer rifle that would be comparable to the 5.56.
                                                                                  Of course, despite what I said, there are other factors, like armor and cover. But if we're talking just straight up, a bullet hitting a body, the 7.62 is usually at a disadvantage.

                                                                                  [–]Benjaminrynti 18 points19 points ago

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                                                                                  The 5.56 won't tumble like you think.

                                                                                  All military ammunition is ball ammunition (Full Metal Jacket). FMJs will punch through a human body and keep on going. Things get interesting when you add gear, clothing, etc., to the mix.

                                                                                  Hollow Points or Jacketed Hollow Points will enter a body, expand, and transfer a great majority of its kinetic energy into the body.

                                                                                  The caliber you're probably thinking of is 5.45x39mm which the AK-74 (yes, 74) is chambered in.

                                                                                  A 7.62 is not at disadvantage either. It is a bigger bullet and it will create a larger wound in a human body. 5.56 NATO and 7.62x39mm are well capable of killing, but the advantage of stopping power goes to the 7.62x39mm.

                                                                                  Although the 5.45x39mm has better terminal ballistics.

                                                                                  [–]singularissententia 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                  Ah yes, the round for the AK-74 was exactly what I was thinking of, thank you.
                                                                                  However, the Wikipedia page seems to support my claim. Although there is still apparently much to debate on the matter, it seems that, if you ignore irregularities due to shoddy manufacturing, the 5.56 does exhibit a consistent, engineered tendency to "yaw," as the article puts it, which would pretty much allow it to match the energy transfer of the 7.62, but still allow for better control.
                                                                                  Disclaimer: Despite trying to argue for my side, I have to admit when I read the part where it basically says "The 5.56 does great when you shoot them in the head and the chest the right way" I had a "Well no shit..." moment. So, I suppose take the military info with a grain of salt.
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                                                                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56%C3%9745mm_NATO

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                                                                                          [–]ppacooo 55 points56 points ago

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                                                                                          they are modern reproductions of the original model 1887

                                                                                          [–]CHR1110 14 points15 points ago*

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                                                                                          Yes, they're made by both Norinco and Chiappa, including one styled after the Model 1887 featured in MW3.

                                                                                          EDIT: Yes, that third one I mentioned IS legal for US Citizens to own, because it's over 26" in length, and has a barrel over 18".

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                                                                                            [–]Tvilli 9 points10 points ago

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                                                                                            Untill they nerfed it and made it the worst shotgun

                                                                                            [–]owdee 20 points21 points ago

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                                                                                            Simply because the gun design is 125 years old means it should be less deadly? It shoots the same 12GA shell as any modern pump-action or autoloading shotgun. Shotgun technology for manual actions hasn't progressed as much as you may think in the last 100 years.

                                                                                            [–]Benjaminrynti 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                            Also considering that there are modern re-makes of the 1887 design. Made with better steel and parts they'll be able to handle some of the more powerful modern shotgun loads.

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                                                                                              [–]Huellio 14 points15 points ago

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                                                                                              Just pointing out that you've never played mw3 if you think that.

                                                                                              [–]socialtangent 5 points6 points ago

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                                                                                              Have access to cutting edge modern weapons

                                                                                              Use a Winchester rifle

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                                                                                                [–]NorthernWV 194 points195 points ago

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                                                                                                Takes .50 Cal to chest. Lives.

                                                                                                Sliced in the ankle with a knife. Dies instantly.

                                                                                                [–]ericcarboni 55 points56 points ago

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                                                                                                Throwing knife to the toe - dead.

                                                                                                [–]TheySeeMeLearnin 48 points49 points ago

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                                                                                                +/-1ft of actual toe location

                                                                                                [–]lil_mitch54 20 points21 points ago

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                                                                                                After it bounced off the wall, a truck windshield, and the ground in front of said toe.

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                                                                                                  [–]Lucksack 104 points105 points ago

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                                                                                                  Obviously due to his Achilles heel.

                                                                                                  [–]MC_Cuff_Lnx 47 points48 points ago

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                                                                                                  If only he had been dunked in the Styx more thoroughly!

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                                                                                                    [–]StankyMung 28 points29 points ago

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                                                                                                    To be fair, you can't do anything with a severed Achilles.

                                                                                                    It's not like they actually stab in MW, they just slice. Through clothing, body armor, guns, boots, helmets. Knifing in BF is so much more satisfying.

                                                                                                    [–]DoubleChocolate 11 points12 points ago

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                                                                                                    The new takedown animations are really cathartic, but I miss the old school super tense knife fights of BF2, where you and some poor bastard would square off in an alleyway with your blades out and then get pummeled into the dirt by a random artillery strike one of you comes out with a well-deserved kill.

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                                                                                                        [–]llandar 107 points108 points ago

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                                                                                                        A guy last night kept yelling at me, calling me a filthy camping piece of shit. I responded, "Yeah. I have a sniper rifle." His comeback: "MY POINT EXACTLY!"

                                                                                                        [–]ialsolovebees 25 points26 points ago

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                                                                                                        Well, were you covering a set of doors, or an entire open area?

                                                                                                        [–]llandar 39 points40 points ago

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                                                                                                        Open area. Sniping from a window on the Fallen map.

                                                                                                        [–]ialsolovebees 48 points49 points ago

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                                                                                                        Then, congratulations, you are a sniper!

                                                                                                        [–]llandar 28 points29 points ago

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                                                                                                        Mazel Tov!

                                                                                                        [–]thatkenyan 5 points6 points ago

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                                                                                                        Yeah, I never understood why people raged so much when you sniped from the top of Crash.

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                                                                                                          [–]Andrewticus04 98 points99 points ago

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                                                                                                          I've never understood that. Somewhere along the lines the term "camping" got conflated with sniping.

                                                                                                          Camping is hiding in a narrow corridor, waiting for people to come by, so you can gun/knife them down when they pass you. The only strategy to beat campers is to anticipate the camping and fire first, or avoiding them altogether. This is not fun.

                                                                                                          Sniping is sitting in an area that allows you to see a great deal of the map, which forces players to react by either counter-sniping or flanking the sniper's position - you know, like in real life. That's why it's fun.

                                                                                                          Seriously, newbs these days!

                                                                                                          [–]Ullallulloo 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                                          Or grenades for campers.

                                                                                                          [–]bitsocker 21 points22 points ago

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                                                                                                          Your definition of fun may differ from someone else's.

                                                                                                          When I play a game like CoD, I enjoy chaotic crazy battles, explosions, smoke grenades, lots of killing, lots of dying, K/D ratio be damned. Nice and personal.

                                                                                                          It can be quite annoying to play that kind of game and have someone sit in a dark corner somewhere and constantly pick me out with a sniper rifle. It's so impersonal. I understand it comes with its own rewards and I won't blame anyone for playing like that but it makes the kind of game I play less fun.

                                                                                                          Each to his own.

                                                                                                          [–]sonQUAALUDE 5 points6 points ago

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                                                                                                          idk, using cover effectively can be really fun

                                                                                                          [–]theconservativelib 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                                          I agree. I tried sitting on my ass waiting for people and the boredom accompanied by pure shame of being a camper was too much for me.

                                                                                                          [–]Pony_ 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                                          Perhaps I'm just a good sport, but in BF3 when I get picked off by a sniper I commend them on thir shots.

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                                                                                                                [–]mattbryce2000 37 points38 points ago

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                                                                                                                CoD, where you can come up behind a prone sniper with dead silence on and he whirls around and knifes you in the balls.

                                                                                                                [–]kettu 9 points10 points ago

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                                                                                                                I hate this because of their ability to one-shot. Sure it's logical for snipers to one-shot but I'd love to see every sniper to be able to one-shot. MW 3's Dragunov? A joke if you ask me. I don't bother using snipers in MW 3 because the only sniper I like (RSASS) is so inferior to other snipers...

                                                                                                                [–]philphan25 7 points8 points ago

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                                                                                                                1 kill away from a killstreak. CAMP!

                                                                                                                [–]quitefunny 78 points79 points ago

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                                                                                                                What do you expect snipers to do? Sit in the same spot and shoot at people who come into their field of view? CAMP HARDER NOOB!

                                                                                                                [–]hothrous 92 points93 points ago

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                                                                                                                That's what snipers do in real life.

                                                                                                                [–]quitefunny 104 points105 points ago

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                                                                                                                Just being facetious. I believe a redditor was banned for sniping like a sniper.

                                                                                                                [–]Avengerr 51 points52 points ago

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                                                                                                                I always laugh when people say "camping snipers," even though I've said it myself on several occasions.

                                                                                                                Well yeah, that's what a sniper does. If he is harassing you then you must out-snipe him, or find another method to bypass his over watch or take him out.

                                                                                                                Part of the reason I quit MW2 entirely was everyone running around with the Intervention sniper-rifle shotgun.

                                                                                                                [–]StankyMung 9 points10 points ago

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                                                                                                                I blame YouTube for the quick-scoping shenanigans that has made me stop playing MW.

                                                                                                                [–]3BetLight 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                                                I don't find it that bad in MW3. MW3 is actually way more balanced. Quick scoping is an annoying way to die but often someone would have easily got me an SMG and I turn on em because they missed a shot quick scoping.

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                                                                                                                    [–]Bacontroph 53 points54 points ago

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                                                                                                                    SNIPER, NO SNIPING!

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                                                                                                                    Oh man!

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                                                                                                                      [–]egzy 16 points17 points ago*

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                                                                                                                      Actually IRL Snipers work in pairs with spotters (they observe area and check where sniper hit), sometimes even as trio with flanker (his role is to observe areas not visible for sniper and spotter).

                                                                                                                      Tactic: Take position safely, kill target, GTFO.

                                                                                                                      [–]ItsOnlyNatural 23 points24 points ago

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                                                                                                                      IRL snipers: Hike out to a terrible camping spot, shit yourself in adult diapers while waiting for the target, radio back intelligence, never get to take the shot, hike back out.

                                                                                                                      [–]FluentinLies 27 points28 points ago

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                                                                                                                      I like hiking and not shooting people. Its almost my perfect job!

                                                                                                                      [–]mrsobchak 16 points17 points ago

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                                                                                                                      Do you also like sitting very still and holding back sneezes? Sign up immediately!

                                                                                                                      [–]stevesonaplane 9 points10 points ago

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                                                                                                                      I like to poop my pants.

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                                                                                                                          [–]hothrous 9 points10 points ago

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                                                                                                                          Though some of them will actually be sent out to an area where they get most of their bodies buried and just wait for days on end until the target arrives.

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                                                                                                                                [–]RaptorJesusDesu 34 points35 points ago

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                                                                                                                                Counter-Strike has worked like this since the dawn of time. Grittier games = real sniping, arcadey games = "A + D quickscopequickscope shoot you 20 feet away" 'sniping'

                                                                                                                                [–]alexisaacs 6 points7 points ago

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                                                                                                                                COD Logic: Inject yourself with, what, fucking ice cubes? Now you're cold blooded and air-support can't see you! Well, UAV's can, but some air-support is smarter than others.

                                                                                                                                tl;dr: Inject yourself with motherfucking ICE CUBE. http://i42.tinypic.com/2evb477.png

                                                                                                                                [–]StankyMung 11 points12 points ago

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                                                                                                                                At least you don't have to deal with USAS frag... ಠ_ಠ

                                                                                                                                [–]USxMARINE 5 points6 points ago

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                                                                                                                                They'll never know the rage..

                                                                                                                                [–]Brainderailment 3 points4 points ago

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                                                                                                                                Unless, god forbid, they buy both games. IMPOSSIBRU!

                                                                                                                                [–]TheSoleWitness 3 points4 points ago

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                                                                                                                                This. This sooo much.

                                                                                                                                [–]Brainderailment 5 points6 points ago

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                                                                                                                                COD Logic: Make maps the size of a small 2 bedroom apartment, give people super long range rifles.

                                                                                                                                [–]stromrider 16 points17 points ago

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                                                                                                                                For clarity, "sniping" and "camping" are two different things to me. If there's a guy with a Barrett .50 covering a huge open area and he shoots me from across the map, that's a good shot and a clean kill. What I can't stand are the asswads that back up into a corner of a room and hose down everything that comes through the door with the MP9.

                                                                                                                                What's more, glitchers should be ass-raped by a million donkeys. Them and hackers.

                                                                                                                                [–]DoubleChocolate 6 points7 points ago

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                                                                                                                                Depends on the game mode. Campers like that are really annoying in deathmatch, yeah, and even worse if you're supposed to be assaulting in demolition. However, if I have to defend an objective, better believe I'm camping the hell out of that doorway with my bullet hose.

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                                                                                                                                  [–]richoki 20 points21 points ago

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                                                                                                                                  I read OCD logic. :(

                                                                                                                                  [–]Ghee_Buttersnaps_ 25 points26 points ago

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                                                                                                                                  Dyslexia logic right there.

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                                                                                                                                    [–]riseofthenerds 10 points11 points ago

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                                                                                                                                    I was raging about this last night and will be doing so again in about, ohhhhh, five hours.

                                                                                                                                    [–]HighbrowIdiot 53 points54 points ago

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                                                                                                                                    COD: Where it doesn't matter what gun you have, because they all kill you just as fast.

                                                                                                                                    [–]pete_norm 169 points170 points ago

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                                                                                                                                    LIFE:Where it doesn't matter what gun you have, because they all kill you just as fast.

                                                                                                                                    [–]DemonicSpoon 22 points23 points ago

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                                                                                                                                    LIFE: Where you can't respawn, and war isn't fun.

                                                                                                                                    [–]slenski 9 points10 points ago

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                                                                                                                                    COD: Where you can respawn... And war isn't fun.

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                                                                                                                                      COD: Where shotguns have a 10 foot range, and full auto assault rifles put out 3 inch groupings at 50 yards

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                                                                                                                                      COD: Guns use the same type of round, but do different damage.

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                                                                                                                                      COD: Where guns use the same STANAG magazine but for some reason aren't compatible with your rifle because it's different.

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                                                                                                                                        [–]Tvilli 14 points15 points ago

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                                                                                                                                        Not Cod logic, playerbase logic

                                                                                                                                        [–]Boycubpiglet 24 points25 points ago

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                                                                                                                                        I'd say it counts as COD logic when the developers were aware of quickscoping and the way people used it, then purposefully added it into the game again so snipers could continue to charge around the map.

                                                                                                                                        [–]InfernoIII 17 points18 points ago

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                                                                                                                                        Removed it then added it again.

                                                                                                                                        [–]fronts 13 points14 points ago

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                                                                                                                                        Two different developers. IW brought it forward from MW2 to MW3 but Treyarch removed it from Black Ops.

                                                                                                                                        They might bring it back (I hope not) but we can't say until November.

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                                                                                                                                          [–]asterix299 13 points14 points ago

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                                                                                                                                          It's because the object of the game is to kill and not to survive. It just shows how it's the exact opposite of what war is really like,

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                                                                                                                                          Depends what game mode you play.

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                                                                                                                                            I usually camp when I snipe. I just plop down the old motion sensor nearby, set up a claymore, and snipe whoever comes near me, using my trusty Five Seven with extended mags for close range. I was never a big fan of quick-scoping, and I find it funny when people bitch at me for "hard-scoping". It's not like snipers were designed in that game for people to sprint in the middle of the map and not even use the powerful zoom and aim that it has...

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                                                                                                                                            Last night I threw down my controller and said "fuck this bullshit." After months of sticking up for this game, I'm just done.

                                                                                                                                            I spend 3 minutes getting 10 kills on outpost, followed by 30 seconds of 8 straight spawn kills. I'm fucking over it, call me when Treyarch finishes their game. I bought battlefield today...

                                                                                                                                            [–]indianthane95 17 points18 points ago

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                                                                                                                                            edgy decision, idk if r/gaming's ready for this..

                                                                                                                                            [–]rybo30 47 points48 points ago

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                                                                                                                                            WaW and Blops are still around. There's no shame in going back, but you should be happy with BF3.

                                                                                                                                            [–]Sloppy1sts 68 points69 points ago

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                                                                                                                                            Haha....Blops.

                                                                                                                                            [–]NightOnTheSun 31 points32 points ago

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                                                                                                                                            Doesn't it sound like the name of a mentally handicapped dog?

                                                                                                                                            [–]Christemo 12 points13 points ago*

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                                                                                                                                            i played WaW until the server i played on (a search and destroy served modded to have respawns, and you would be kicked or banned for spawn camping) shut down. that was around the middle of 2011. besides the MP40, that game was so well balanced and so much fun. when that server went up to 60 players, it was fucking fun.

                                                                                                                                            [–]jessebk 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                                                                            I thought I'd have fun with BF3. Nope. Nobody told me about the running. Oh god, the running.

                                                                                                                                            [–]Ekorn 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                                                                            Honestly, I am so fucking tired of BF3. The gameplay itself is ok, but what really broke the game is all the waiting, and all the unnecessary features.

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                                                                                                                                              [–]dhvl2712 33 points34 points ago

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                                                                                                                                              A lot of people will tell you that you've made a great choice but let me tell you the truth: you may not enjoy Battlefield at all. The game has jets, huge maps, excellent team features and beautiful graphics. But, if you're buying on PC then you'll need an absolutely amazing PC and will have to deal with Origin. If you're buying on Xbox, the graphics won't be that great, and the game will feel very, very sluggish after CoD.

                                                                                                                                              Also, Yes the game has jets and all sorts of vehicles but you have to share them with 12 other people, 24 on PC. So don't expect to be in a vehicle all the time. Yes the game has a lot of interesting team based features but don't expect your teammates to coordinate with you all the time. Often you'll start flying a helicopter to the objective, and when you get there all your mates will jump out, leaving you in a helicopter without any weapons. Not all your teammates will be in good positions for you to spawn, and not all your teammates will spot.

                                                                                                                                              And the worst part, is the camping. Often you'll be running for five minutes only to be sniped by some guy far, far away and you'll have no idea where he shot you from. This will happen a lot. So get used to it.

                                                                                                                                              But despite all of this, when you see the "Your team won" screen at the end of a half-hour long battle where you busted your ass providing air support it'll be one of the best feelings you've ever had.

                                                                                                                                              TL;DR: Play Battlefield, but it would be very stupid to sell off MW3.

                                                                                                                                              [–]RedDaggerx 6 points7 points ago

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                                                                                                                                              Well, on my xbox BF3 experience, people still run around, and I find campers on the objective only, whereas CoD, they're everywhere. Also, I very rarely find long-distance snipers.

                                                                                                                                              But the main reasons I prefer it is that I don't die as frequently, and when I'm bored, I can play some conquest on a large map and screw around with unused vehicles. On CoD, I don't find as much variety.

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                                                                                                                                              I never sell video games.

                                                                                                                                              [–]dhvl2712 6 points7 points ago

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                                                                                                                                              That's great. You must have an amazing library then. But still, my point is that you shouldn't write off MW3 just yet.

                                                                                                                                              [–]sexlexia_survivor 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                                                                              I play both. They both have pros and cons as you said. I end up playing MW3 more because I always tell myself it will be 'quick' but still end up sitting there for 2 hours.

                                                                                                                                              Both have problems with the spawning at times, and campers, and snipers. The only time I get pissed at either game is when I am sucking or there is a lag, niether of which is the particular game's fault.

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                                                                                                                                                [–]tintin47 12 points13 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                Three things:

                                                                                                                                                You don't need an amazing PC. You can get medium graphics at 50 FPS with a relatively outdated card if you don't run it at 1080p and you are judicious about where you are spending your processing power in terms of graphics.

                                                                                                                                                There are plenty of maps where vehicles are easy to get. Oman, Wake, Firestorm, and Caspian all have at least 2 tanks per side, a heli, and jets, in addition to AA and sometimes LAVs. You can easily get 20 people in vehicles if you want.

                                                                                                                                                The PC version supports up to 32 v 32. :)

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                                                                                                                                                  [–]_Gingy 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                  Don't play Demolition on Treyarch's game if you really don't like getting spawn killed. I never really had a problem with getting spawn killed. With the new respawn system it spawns you on the opposite side of the map a good portion of the time. It also depends on what game mode you play and if you're teammates are good.

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                                                                                                                                                    [–]manopka 20 points21 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                    Quick scoping is stupid and shouldnt even be included in the game.

                                                                                                                                                    [–]Shazambom 4 points5 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                    God damnit imgur Y U NO WORK?

                                                                                                                                                    [–]Siggi4000 11 points12 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                    GAME BALANCE>REALISM die in a fire

                                                                                                                                                    not saying COD achieves game balance though.

                                                                                                                                                    [–]diminishedfifth 6 points7 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                    Yeah, the word "sniper" has been redefined by COD

                                                                                                                                                    [–]knighmare 20 points21 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                    yeah, i dont like your title, logic does not exist in a world where any nation can simultaneously invade the rest of the world

                                                                                                                                                    [–]HeroOfCanton 39 points40 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                    Tell that to Hitler.

                                                                                                                                                    [–]MetalGearFoRM 31 points32 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                    And Napoleon.

                                                                                                                                                    [–]Andrewticus04 22 points23 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                    And Genghis Khan.

                                                                                                                                                    [–]Terny 15 points16 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                    and Alexander the Great

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                                                                                                                                                        [–]The_fun_Machine 9 points10 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                        Or where a US army general can murder SAS soldiers without any consequences.

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                                                                                                                                                          [–]Smeeuf 11 points12 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                          Other games:

                                                                                                                                                          Sniper = Sniper; SMG = SMG; Assault Rifle = Assault Rifle; LMG = LMG;

                                                                                                                                                          Call of Duty:

                                                                                                                                                          Sniper = SMG; SMG = Assault Rifle; Assault Rifle = Sniper; LMG = Useless;

                                                                                                                                                          [–]bustajeep66 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                          Snipers are weak punks.

                                                                                                                                                          [–]chingyduster 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                                                                                          Fuckin quickscopers

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