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[–]chernobyl169 42 points43 points ago

Upvote for using the cover of one of my favorite old games: Zeus.

[–]rogrschach 14 points15 points ago

I came here with the same purpose.

[–]psychroclasm 7 points8 points ago

WELCOME TO ZEUS! swshhhh

(Couldn't think of a better way to spell the magic sound.)

[–]rogrschach 1 point2 points ago

" magic sound effect " would work too.

[–]AnticScarab3 1 point2 points ago

You're no fun!

[–]rogrschach 1 point2 points ago

Oh i've forgot the "hehehe" thing to be fun, well a "(:" will suit the fun requiriment?! (:

[–]psychroclasm 1 point2 points ago

Dammit.

[–]moorederodeo -2 points-1 points ago

I'm going to jump on this karma train.

[–]DangerousIdeas 1 point2 points ago

I upvoted for him not using the typical Age of Mythology covers.

Although that game kicks-ass.

[–]TeknikReVolt 0 points1 point ago

I love it, but Emperor is still better IMO. (Zeus got me hooked after numerous frustrations with Caesar.

[–]boogabooga08 5 points6 points ago

Master's of Olympus!

[–]LocalMadman 0 points1 point ago

I was just going to ask where the picture was from. Thanks!

[–]Dystopeuh 0 points1 point ago

You know what? I'm playing this all day tomorrow (my day off). And it's all your fault.

You should feel terrible, making me relapse like this.

[–]chernobyl169 0 points1 point ago

You know what? I'm going to find a torrent of that game and do the same thing.

Guilty pleasures are always better when you aren't alone doing them.

[–]Dystopeuh 0 points1 point ago

*high fives!*

[–]chernobyl169 0 points1 point ago

Almost done. This gives me a chance to seed Alpha Centauri while my client runs.

My mouth is watering for sweet, sweet path-based strategy.

[–]Dystopeuh 1 point2 points ago

I used to have a notebook somewhere that listed how far each type of person would travel from their home base and make roads exactly the correct length (and if you do loops, they end up finishing on the other side and going farther)... I wonder where that notebook is. I painstakingly measured everything myself, haha.

[–]zues2848 7 points8 points ago

May Zeus smite you! How dare you insult my religion. THERE IS A WAR ON GREEK POLYTHEISM! I MUST BRING THIS TO THE MEDIA'S ATTENTION!! TO THE SCRIBE!

May Hermes guide my writings to its highest potential!!

[–]amber90 5 points6 points ago

I am a non-denominational atheist, no need to narrow down which sects of God-worship in which I don't believe.

[–]CavitySearch 3 points4 points ago

This game was the shit. Until those fucking Dionesian whores came trampling through town. And fuck you Theseus!

[–]TeknikReVolt 0 points1 point ago

I personally hated the stupid Boar. But I usually got anyone who fucked with me killed nice and dead with Ares's free hoplites =D

[–]CavitySearch 0 points1 point ago

Oh the hoplites. Ye majestic warriors. What a fun game that I don't remember getting much credit. Bought it for 5 bucks at Wal-mart one day on a whim since my mom didn't think it'd be too bad.

[–]TeknikReVolt 0 points1 point ago

My awesome dad plays it with me sometimes when I'm home. But we usually settle for Emperor so that we can LAN it up.

[–]dembones01 2 points3 points ago

Also the title of a reoccurring segment of the podcast Reasonable Doubts

[–]Scadilla 2 points3 points ago

Part of me kind of wishes I believed in Zeus.

[–]Soccer21x 0 points1 point ago

I've had multiple discussions with people and I've decided if I were ever to turn to any religion, it would be a polytheism (maybe polydeism?) sort of one.

[–]DannyFathom 2 points3 points ago

The Greeks definitely had better stories.

[–]Jaded_Jackalope 3 points4 points ago

Are you saying that you don't believe in our lord and saviour. . . ODIN?

Heathen.

.>

[–]Xarnon 5 points6 points ago

Gotta escape that first >
Like so:
\>_>
becomes:
>_> instead of:

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[–]rogrschach 3 points4 points ago

What about Talos?!

[–]Likes_Your_Name 0 points1 point ago

A-hem....

You're forgetting about our noodly lord.

[–]Smrti 0 points1 point ago

The last person who said that got shot with an arrow and dumped behind the dungeon ಠ_ಠ..

[–]zapakh 1 point2 points ago

Perhaps even thousands.

[–]belloch 0 points1 point ago

Millions, if not even thousands of gods!

[–]BantamBasher135 2 points3 points ago

billions and billions

[–]angelofdeathofdoom 1 point2 points ago

billions if you include Shinto

[–]BoldElDavo 1 point2 points ago

Even the same top comment referencing the source of the picture :D

[–]Rflkt 1 point2 points ago

Well I believe in Zeus. That dude will fuckin kill you with bolt of lightening if you don't.

[–]science_diction 0 points1 point ago

I actually respect ancient paganism. People didn't even have to think that there's a "plan" or a "purpose" or even any meaning to anything. There were just wild forces out of your control that would kill you becuase fuck you it's Tuesday.

That makes more sense to me actually. There's something a lot less human about it. Modern religion is always rationalizing and debating. It's tiresome.

[–]boogabooga08 1 point2 points ago

I love that game.

[–]B-roox 1 point2 points ago

Atheist. I do not think this word means what you think it means.

[–]RogueEntomologist 1 point2 points ago

Don't believe in ALL the gods!

[–]provokedcarp 0 points1 point ago

Whats the name of the game this is from? I remember it, it was essentially simcity in ancient Greece. I played the stage with medusa guarding the marble quarry in the bottom left probably 100 times.

Simpler times.

[–]provokedcarp 2 points3 points ago

Nevermind, I figured it out. If anyone is curious, it's Zeus: Master of Olympus. Pretty neat game, I'm really sad its not on Good old Games right now.

[–]ChrisAshtear 2 points3 points ago

the chinese game was good too. what was it called... Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom

[–]TeknikReVolt 0 points1 point ago

I FUCKING LOVED THAT ONE!!! I love it more than most of the Impressions games because it was gorgeous and still 2d/3d mix. I have beaten every campaign on it. So hard. But so, so, so worth it.

[–]provokedcarp 0 points1 point ago

It is really wrong of me to want to pirate these games if they're out of print and unavailable for purchase?

[–]ChrisAshtear 0 points1 point ago

i check steam, then gog... but it is available on amazon through a bunch of different sellers. However the developer doesnt get any money from that, so my position is 'meh.'

[–]47L45 0 points1 point ago

If Greek Mythology was a true religion, based on hardcore facts that they all exsisted and EVERY STORY WAS TRUE WITH EVIDENCE; I, for one, welcome our new Greek overlords.

[–]BoldElDavo 0 points1 point ago

Why? They were a bunch of petulant dicks who didn't care about the well-being of any humans ever.

EDIT: Non-hero humans*

[–]47L45 1 point2 points ago

Did you miss the part where I said if it was all fact with evidence? I couldn't give two shits if they were assholes or not, they'd exist.

[–]BoldElDavo 0 points1 point ago

Haha, I know. But they'd exist and be total dicks to you. No gods at all is just much easier.

[–]TeknikReVolt 0 points1 point ago

Even then they disliked heroes, they just used them in their own struggles. To the Greeks power meant that you could do whatever you wanted. Might makes right after all.

[–]ticklemeginger 0 points1 point ago

It would technically be apolytheism. Like it matters.

[–]eikons 1 point2 points ago

Technically it's atheism. It already includes all gods. Not that it matters :p

[–]Feynx 0 points1 point ago

Make that thousands.

[–]Radagastxiii 0 points1 point ago

Zeus: Master of Olympus!

[–]Isaac_Shepard 0 points1 point ago

Zeus looks like he faps too much.

[–]korrekt 0 points1 point ago

Thousands*

[–]trua 0 points1 point ago

There aren't hundreds of gods I don't believe in.

FTFY. (You know, because they don't exist.)

[–]KSUpsych 0 points1 point ago

Obligatory Grammar Nazi: Gods should be lower case because here it is not a proper noun.

[–]stompy33 0 points1 point ago

I believe I would like to be yolked like Zeus...

[–]brendancardenas 0 points1 point ago

hahahaa WIN

[–]science_diction 0 points1 point ago

Except when playing D&D.

Any other athiests love role playing true believers in RPGs?

[–]Hypersapien 0 points1 point ago

The podcast Reasonable Doubts has a segment in every episode called "Polyatheism" where they talk about ancient gods that they also don't believe in.

[–]ckallas2 0 points1 point ago

Actually you don't believe in at least 2,800 gods. Here is a short list.

[–]bluebawls 0 points1 point ago

Pascal's Poly-wager - BELIEVE ALL THE GODS!

[–]Yrmahon 0 points1 point ago

Zeus sure faps a lot.

[–]Shiboro 0 points1 point ago

We all know Thor is not among those!

Hail Thor! Asgrad awaits!

[–]JaronK 0 points1 point ago

So... you only don't believe in the Grecoroman gods?

[–]michcat1996 0 points1 point ago

Zeus, Master of Olympus! Played that game yesterday! :D

[–]AnimaSeverem 0 points1 point ago

Bacchus is one god I wish was real.

[–]LevitatingTurtles 0 points1 point ago

I've been telling people this for a while. It usually goes like this:

"So... you're an... atheist?"

"Well, actually, I'm a polyatheist. There are LOTS of gods I don't believe in..."

ಠ_ಠ

[–]SpasmodiusDent -1 points0 points ago

Hold up. That doesn't work. Atheism is the lack of theism and therefore a belief that theism, the belief that there exists one or more god(s).

Think of it as an interval where atheism is the belief in [0,1) gods; theism is the belief in [1, infinite). However, the number of gods would be an integer, therefore 0 for atheists.

Polyathism doesn't really work as a concept... Atheism already fits under what you're describing.

Sorry to be a dick.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points ago

It's just a joke on how many christians take atheism to be a personal assault against their religion.

atheism itself should mean you disbelieve in all gods, but many christians choose to deny the existence of those ones

[–]half-wizard 2 points3 points ago

atheism itself should...

Atheism itself does.

[–]qualityofevolution 0 points1 point ago

I came here specifically to downvote this argument (because I like to use the argument: Do you believe in Allah? No? Then you are atheistic in respect to Islam. Yes I am aware that no matter how many gods you refuse to believe in, if you believe in one, then you are not an atheist.. Nevertheless, this argument still has the ability to provide a new perspective.) but what I found begs the question: Did you finish that first thought or am I just reading it wrong?

Atheism is the lack of theism and therefore a belief that theism, the belief that there exists one or more god(s) There should be words here preceded by a comma that finish this sentence.

Also, Polyatheism*

Sorry to be a dick.

[–]kent_eh 1 point2 points ago

Do you believe in Allah? No? Then you are atheistic in respect to Islam.

When I'm using this argument, I prefer to name Hindu or Norse or Aztec gods.

Saves the effort of dealing with "But Allah and Yahweh are different names for the same god".

[–]SpasmodiusDent 0 points1 point ago

That's my bad. Hours of sleep deprivation will do that to you.

[–]half-wizard -1 points0 points ago*

So. You use a fundamentally flawed argument in order to help give perspective to an improper and fundamentally ignorant view of your beliefs in order to clarify them?

Well, if it works, then more power to you. But using the example that a theist does not believe in all gods does not demonstrate Polyatheism because it is not Polytheism. It demonstrates an aspect of Theist (choosing which deities you believe actually exist) and relates it to atheism so that may better understand your beliefs (that is, that you have no chosen no deities). It finds common ground that is commonly overlooked (that you both have chosen to believe in a certain number of deities, just that your numbers vary) in order to explain something more clearly to someone. This still does no demonstrate (and is not an example of) Polyatheism.

I fail to see your use of this example disproves the fact that Polyatheism is fundamentally flawed in the sense that it is just plain silly to the point of redundancy; that it only seeks to describe something which atheism, by definition, already describes.

Theism, on the other hand, is the belief that there can be deities. Differentiation (mono- and poly-) is necessary because saying that deities may exist does not actually indicate quantity in regards to these deities. As we well know, many theists argue this quantity.

Atheism is a lack of theism. If theism states that there are deities, then by definition atheism is that there are no deities. Polyatheism is therefore equivalent to claiming that there are numerous (many) "no deities". To say that there is no deity is to imply that where the would otherwise be a deity, there is actually nothing. Polyatheism is then stating that there are many instances of nothing... but how can there be more than one nothing? When asked a question regarding how much of something would you answer with, "I have three nothings!"? It is all nothing.

[–]qualityofevolution 0 points1 point ago

..to an improper and fundamentally ignorant view of your beliefs (fuck you that hurts my feeling)..

Let's be clear here, I am an atheist. I'm glad you understand prefixes and that you understand the redundancy of the word polyatheism, but you seem to think that I irrationally argue for (or about) polyatheism.. I do not.

Do you believe in Allah? No? Then you are atheistic in respect to Islam. Yes I am aware that no matter how many gods you refuse to believe in, if you believe in one, then you are not an atheist.. Nevertheless, this argument still has the ability to provide a new perspective.

I live in America, in the bible belt, land of the narrow-minded. When I find myself engaged in religious discourse with someone concerned about my soul or concerned about what it is like to be an atheist I often say, “Do you believe in Allah? No? Then you are atheistic in respect to Islam.” This allows them to glimpse what it means to be an atheist. It helps to OPEN THEIR MINDS.. and it does work by the way.

[–]half-wizard 0 points1 point ago*

Honestly, I really have no idea what you're talking about here. You don't seem to have a coherent point or argument which I have not yet addressed.

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I feel that you think i'm trying to say something that I was not saying. No reason to be a dick.

So. You use a fundamentally flawed argument in order to help give perspective to an improper and fundamentally ignorant view of your beliefs in order to clarify them?

To address the part about hurting your feelings, I was merely questioning and confirming that you use an example of polyatheism. Let me explain the above statement a bit: "So. You use this method you described with the intent to help other people (who hold theistic beliefs, many of whom often have a tendency to be ignorant of your own beliefs), in hopes of allowing them a glimpse of what your beliefs actually are."

Though, however, a problem arises. You then claim that are not here in defense of, or use, polyatheism. You've given some misinformation, then, as I am confused to why you were here in the first place.

I came here specifically to downvote this argument...

So you came here with the express purpose to downvote the comment made my SpasmodiusDent. After stating the above, you then state,

...because I like to use the argument....

So you came here with the express purpose to shoot down the idea that polyatheism is not an actual thing and that it is merely atheism (which is the summation of SpadmodiusDent's argument). You did this because you like to use a specific method (which you describe) to help explain your own beliefs to others who do not understand them.

So if I still follow, you came here to tell someone they were wrong about polyatheism because you like to use a specific argument to help your own case. So because you are defending polyatheism here (due to your argument), then there must be some sort of correlation between your argument and polyatheism.

However, you then state the following:

...but you seem to think that I irrationally argue for (or about) polyatheism.. I do not.

Well, your self-proclaimed reason for commenting was, as further above, to downvote the argument that polyatheism is not an actual concept. You then completely contradict yourself by claiming that you are not defending polyatheism. So then why did you downvote and argue against SpasmodiusDent? Because of this fundamental contradiction in your own argument, your argument is flawed and incoherent. Why, truly, are you here then?

You also claim that I irrationally argue that this is what you are doing, however I provide evidence contrary to your new claim.

Also, in regards to the second part of your previous post: I understand why you use that method in which to try to help people understand where you are coming from. I don't believe I ever gave any reason to doubt otherwise. I even went on to say,

Well, if it works, then more power to you. But using the example that a theist does not believe in all gods does not demonstrate Polyatheism because it is not Polyatheism.

Let me explain what I am saying here. I commend you for your success in explaining to others. I then try to make a point about the inherent contradiction in your argument; that is, to point out that you have made a stand in direct opposition SpasmodiusDent's argument. I proceed to question how this stance, if at all, demonstrates or can help to persuade others against SpadmodiusDent's argument.

It demonstrates an aspect of Theist (choosing which deities you believe actually exist) and relates it to atheism so that may better understand your beliefs (that is, that you have chosen no deities). It finds common ground that is commonly overlooked (that you both have chosen to believe in a certain number of deities, just that your numbers vary) in order to explain something more clearly to someone. This still does no demonstrate (and is not an example of) Polyatheism.

I then go on to break down what is you are actually doing when you explain to others your own beliefs using your own method. I point out that your stance against polyatheism is not at all related to method with which you persuade others and help them to understand your own beliefs.

However, your initial stance was for polyatheism. Your stance and the presentation of your method of persuasion inherently created a correlation between your argument and your stance for polyatheism. After pointing out that your stance (having come here for the express purpose of opposing the idea that polyatheism is not a concept -- which by nature, if I may refresh our memories, is the same as a stance FOR polyatheism) is not related to your reason (the because), I then reiterate my previous argument; that your argument in no way actually is for polyatheism.

If your argument is in no way for Polyatheism, yet you came here for Polyatheism, then I do not understand why you came here at all. Your argument makes no sense. It has nothing to do with anything SpasmodiusDent said. It has nothing to do with polyatheism, which I tried to explain. Therefore, your opposition to SpasmodiusDent makes no sense. And I feel you owe SpasmodiusDent an apology for being a dick to him (which you admit to in your own reply to him) for coming here with the express purpose to downvote him and to be a dick to him.

I never said your method of helping others to understand your own views was wrong. I even commended them. I never insulted you. I only pointed out the flaws in your argument in order to try to better understand what was going on, and I tried my best to explain the position that myself and SpasmodiusDent took.

However, next time, before you get angry and start cursing at people, go off to play the victim (claiming that you have been offended), or talking down to someone and mocking them, I would whole-heartedly suggest that you invest in a remedial reading course, a college freshman writing course, a college freshman communications course, or all of the above. That way you can not only better understand what people are trying to say to you, but also you will be able to better communicate your own ideas and arguments so that others may understand you. But I forgive you. Keep fighting the good fight. Good day.

[–]half-wizard 0 points1 point ago

Came here to say the same thing. You're not being a dick, so don't be sorry. You're merely clarifying facts.