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Ready to walk through the fog gate yet r/gaming? (i.imgur.com)

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[–]spithotfire30 26 points27 points ago

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the fog is absolutely terrifying; you never know what's coming and how it's going to promptly rape you

[–]TheMagicToolBus 21 points22 points ago

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I love that half the time they're just fucking with you, so you never know for sure if there's a boss on the other side, but you expect it every time.

Then OH GOD A HEALTH BAR FUCK FUCK FUCK

[–]Eldritchsense 5 points6 points ago

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I've found most of the fog doors that didn't contain bosses were either there to activate a one-time event (hellkite landing on the bridge then taking off to his next location, at the very start of undead burg), or to mark off different areas for each location (you can throw down your summon sign on one side, but cross this threshold and it'll disappear because it's a new part of that location)

But my first play-through? Absolutely terrified of each and every one of them.

[–]videogameexpert 0 points1 point ago

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Not to mention the one leading to Ceaseless Discharge. You see the fog gate all the way across the bridge and don't see a boss anywhere, so you think, "Oh yeah this is just another mid-level gate.. not a boss." Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkk.

[–]Eldritchsense 0 points1 point ago

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I shot it with an arrow not being sure what it was, and suddenly hey! Boss bar shows up! Dammit...

[–][deleted] 87 points88 points ago

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Want but can't, don't have a console :(

[–]The_Dragon_born 6 points7 points ago

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Also, Red dead redemption.

[–]lonko 48 points49 points ago

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Iknowthatfeelbro.jpg

[–]videogameexpert 1 point2 points ago

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I swear to god I'd pay $60 for Dark Souls on PC even though the game is already beaten. Fucking bonus if they add in extras.

My console is offline so I don't get to have the full experience on console :( :(

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    [–]Linkitch 60 points61 points ago

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    I'm still hoping that either Dark Souls comes to PC, or the likely sequel will.

    [–]Endymion86 20 points21 points ago*

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    Namco Bandai did say they took notice of the "Bring Dark Souls to PC" petition, and thought it was a wonderful idea. Didn't say if it would happen, though.

    [–]mafaraxas 23 points24 points ago

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    I love it when developers phrase things that way.

    "Oh, we just realized there's a relatively large market over here that we could be selling units to! What an excellent and original idea that we might make some more money and fans. We couldn't have possibly already thought about this."

    [–]Endymion86 13 points14 points ago

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    To be fair, Namco Bandai is not the developer of Dark Souls, but rather the Publisher. From Software is the developer.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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    Actually, in this case, I expect it's more along the lines of "we can either fit a mediocre PC port into the standard release cycle... or we can spend a bunch more time on it after the console release if the game isn't a flop, and do a second release and get way more free marketing."

    [–]hubilation 14 points15 points ago

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    Someone should show them how much the guys who made Alan Wake made in like three days on PC.

    [–]Endymion86 3 points4 points ago

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    No kidding!

    [–]deadlysoldier 3 points4 points ago

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    They also regained all their money in cost and development of the game overall on the PC alone.

    [–]superfudge 2 points3 points ago

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    I know how you feel. I suspect that Dark Souls is the game I have been so desperately looking for in the bleak, post-WoW wasteland that my life has become, but I can't justify purchasing a console for one game.

    Or can i?

    [–]SamiNami 4 points5 points ago

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    It's the best game I ever played. And now It will never live up to those standards...

    [–]Givants 4 points5 points ago

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    Me too, I am so glad I played skyrim before dark souls, otherwise I wouldnt have enjoyed skyrim as much as I did.

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      [–]rmhawesome 2 points3 points ago

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      gamepad support would be a must given the combat mechanics of Dark Souls.

      [–]clush 4 points5 points ago

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      Definitely rebuying it for PC if so.

      [–]sharkpunch 28 points29 points ago

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      Really want to see this series come to the PC.

      [–]RockHardRetard 5 points6 points ago

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      I'm willing to purchase Dark Souls twice.

      [–]smugchicken 13 points14 points ago

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      As someone who has played it on PS3, I wish it would too. The frame rate can be abysmal in areas, I don't know how they could be happy with the final product.

      [–]hubilation 8 points9 points ago

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      yeah Blighttown is terrible for that

      [–]AgentNipples 7 points8 points ago

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      fuck blighttown...seriously, that placed was MEAN

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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      Once I learnt about the second entrance... Man, was I relieved. Played through five times, only once finished the entirety of Blighttown.

      [–]chairback 2 points3 points ago

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      I'm there right now on my first playthrough, but luckily found the shortcut through the Valley of the Drakes. it doesn't seem that bad going this route, but it sure is annoying to be poisoned and toxic as much as I am here. People seem to be pretty genuinely grateful for help with Queelag, so that's been cool! i feel like the minimal amount of emotes you have available really make those interactions meaningful. having another creature bow or wave in the midst of all the darkness that the game throws at you is some of the most meaningful communication i've ever experienced in a game :>

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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      Queelag is one of the best to assist with, and a great way to get Humanity if you're good enough to assist. It's great as well since you can post your sign right next to the Bonfire and have such a short way to travel.

      Poison and Toxic are rife in that area - it's a blessing that the dart shooters do not respawn though! And they're worth it for the Fire Keeper's Soul beneath them.

      You're absolutely correct about the interactions. I feel being invaded, bowing to each other and then battling out for five minutes until the victor is decided is really one of the most rewarding things possible.

      [–]Yenzin 7 points8 points ago

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      Also, the director of the game actually apologized for the frame rate issues after the game was released. He said something like "we want to make a new game in this series but we don't think the consumers will forgive us". Good guy.

      [–]kylebutts 9 points10 points ago

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      Good Guy Hidetaka Miyazaki.

      • Makes one of the best action-RPGs ever, apologizes sincerely for performance issues.

      [–]PoopyMoosh 10 points11 points ago

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      While the frame rates are awful in places, they are not gamebreaking and I'd bet it took lots of tweaking to get them were they are. They probably felt that they would need to sacrifice too much to reduce it any further on console hardware. So ya, pc release pls.

      [–]Zeldr 5 points6 points ago

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      This.

      The game's great though.

      But when the frame rate drops, it never really effects anything for me.

      [–]RockHardRetard 3 points4 points ago

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      I rarely experienced the FPS issues my self...

      [–]PoopyMoosh 1 point2 points ago

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      They are rare for me in the sense that they really only happen consistently in Blighttown so far. FYI I play on a ps3 slim I got about a year and a half ago. It is possible it runs better on xbox idk. It was not unheard of for Demon's Souls to experience similar drops in fps, so I imagine they see it as a reasonable calculated cost for a more expansive world. I almost never experience similar drops in any other ps3 game I own (15 games or so).

      [–]rmhawesome 2 points3 points ago

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      fucking blighttown man

      [–]antonbe 3 points4 points ago

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      After the massive success of Alan Wake after it's release a few weeks ago on PC, which was released TWO years ago on the Xbox 360, I think Namco will take a much closer look at the possibility of a PC port.

      Especially after Kingdom of Amalur bringing fun combat to the RPG genre on PC, I think the audience is very primed for a full blown action RPG. If they don't release a port soon, they're going to miss a great opportunity.

      [–]applesforadam 3 points4 points ago

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      As a console gamer, I do too. It's a great game and it would be great to share it across platforms.

      [–]applesforadam 23 points24 points ago

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      Used console: $130. Used copy of Dark Souls: $35. Dying over and over again until achieving glorious, incandescent victory: Priceless.

      [–]DarthQkie 2 points3 points ago

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      Kicking the face of that Boss you've been dying to multiple thousand times, in jolly cooperation : even more priceless.

      Praise the sun !

      [–]gratefuldread 19 points20 points ago

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      Dark Souls is awesome and I'd rather replay it than demon's souls, it fixes some things (moon grass farming anyone?)

      The transitions between areas are awesome, I love how it's all connected and you get short cuts, you feel like you have some progression

      [–]Bloodredsandman 13 points14 points ago

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      Played both on Xbox, and can't decide which one is better. Best things about Skyrim are the freedom you have and time you can spend in its world. Best things about Dark Souls are the enemies and the obvious fact that the game is way harder and more challenging. In the beginning it felt really weird playing Skyrim after Dark Souls. fuck, this is easy will be the thought of many playing a 'normal' game after Dark Souls.

      [–]antonbe 13 points14 points ago

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      I couldn't get past the 30 hour mark in Skyrim because the combat just bored me so damn much. Even though every new dungeon was exciting to discover, the thought of slogging through repetitive combat really drove me away from the game. Kingdom of Amalur, which is not as pretty or detailed, kept me entertained for far longer because of a great variety in combat.

      [–]synthion 0 points1 point ago

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      Magic, man. Magic.

      [–]Potunka 6 points7 points ago

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      I started out with a mage in Skyrim. I want to cast about 10 different spells every battle. I really hate all the pausing to select different spells.

      [–]reducereusereanimate 2 points3 points ago

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      You can hotkey spells, if you're bringing up your menu each time then you're doing it wrong.

      [–]shadowhunter22 0 points1 point ago

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      If you're playing on console the hotkey list is still a menu, still have to "pause" to change spells. Just takes away from the immersion in my opinion.

      [–]Lost_in_the_woods 1 point2 points ago

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      Nah, we've got left and right on the D-pad....that's about it for our hotkey availability

      [–]reducereusereanimate 1 point2 points ago

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      Oh that sucks :\

      [–]Potunka 0 points1 point ago

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      I picked up a 360 controller for my PC which makes the rest of the Skyrim UI much more tolerable. Now I have to decide if I want to go back to mouse + keyboard for my mage. I remember doing hotkeys for Oblivion. Will have to figure it out again for Skyrim. Thanks :)

      [–]antonbe 1 point2 points ago

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      I actually used the whole arsenal that was afforded to me except for two handed. I used magic, swords, shouts, bows, sneaking, etc... it's just, it all turned into the same thing over and over. The story just wasn't compelling enough for me to continue; for example the reasons behind the dragon's just weren't executed properly, IMO.

      [–]netfeed 0 points1 point ago

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      I'm not don with Kingdom of Amalur yet, must become level 36 first so i get the achievement, but man, it was a long time ago i wanted to replay a game once i finished it just to try out the other classes.

      [–]antonbe 0 points1 point ago

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      You know you respec right?

      [–]netfeed 0 points1 point ago

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      Yeah, but i got no gear for it. It's not the same thing to respec as to do right IMHO

      [–]RipInTheUniverse 0 points1 point ago

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      I was the exact same way. I went 1H Sword and Magic on the 2nd hand and it got extremely repetitive.

      [–]jacobuj 3 points4 points ago

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      I was in the same boat, but after 120 hours of Skyrim and just as much playtime if not more in Dark Souls the award goes to (drum roll please!)

      Dark Souls!

      The combat, the challenge, the beauty of it, but overall the polish is what put this one in the lead for me. Don't get me wrong, I love Bethesda's games, but I'm also tired of having to replay parts because the games are released with a lot of bugs. I don't hold it against them because of the amazing amount of content packed in to one title. It must take an insane amount of man hours to go through all that, but Dark Souls man.... Dark Souls...

      [–]Deddan 1 point2 points ago

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      This is what has stopped me playing Skyrim.. Keep finding unplayable quests, due to bugs, which kills the mood for me. :(

      [–]jacobuj 1 point2 points ago

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      I didn't find as many as I thought I would, but I ran into a game breaking bug near the end of the main quest line where it conflicted with the civil war quests. I had to go back 10 hours to a previous save to be able to complete both quest lines. It was pretty frustrating. The smaller bugs I could easily dismiss, but that one was a deal breaker for me.

      [–]berriesthatburn 0 points1 point ago

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      mods, yo.

      [–]doctorcrass 0 points1 point ago

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      The problem is the combat system is simply too lacking, even good mods are just building on a lackluster combat system.

      [–]berriesthatburn 0 points1 point ago

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      i mean the best thing about skyrim is the mods

      [–]Knov 1 point2 points ago

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      That says something about the game.

      [–]Beardacus5 2 points3 points ago

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      Or about the community.

      [–]berriesthatburn 0 points1 point ago

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      the main quest was heart-breakingly short, i was quite disappointed.

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        [–]Knov -1 points0 points ago

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        Dark Souls: Fantastic story and lore that isn't thrown in your face and leaves room for speculation, great combat, atmosphere, music, great everything basically. There are framerate issues in some places and the AI can be sketchy. Skyrim has mediocre writing, awful combat, it's buggy as fuck, dungeons are all copy+paste samey shit, there are a shit ton of NPCs you can't kill (big deal in an open-world RPG when you're supposed to be able to choose your actions).

        [–]lysdexickovahdiin -1 points0 points ago

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        Intially thought you meant both souls games and was gonna down vote you. Thank zombie Jesus I kept reading, now I have to upvote and agree. Although, on a seperate note, of you start skyrim on master from the get go it has a few minutes of it being not too hard. Also if you don't exploit it or level blacksmithing

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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        I tried doing a no-smithing master playthrough. I finally quit when I realized it was possible, just tedious.

        [–]TheMagicToolBus 3 points4 points ago

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        There's a reason it was my personal GOTY instead of Skyrim.

        Don't get me wrong, Skyrim was amazing. It took what Bethesda does best, and made it even better. Still, it was a very familiar game if you've ever played a Bethesda title before.

        Dark Souls brings back that feeling you had the first time you played a game that completely changed your perception of what games could be. Super Mario 64 and Portal come to mind as examples. Even if you've played Demon's Souls, it's still such a unique experience.

        [–]drjohnson89 4 points5 points ago

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        Dark Souls is the equivalent of Dwarf Fortress when compared to Skyrim. I absolutely loved Skyrim, but the hardcore aspect of Dark Souls keeps me coming back again and again.

        [–]god12 3 points4 points ago*

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        Elder Scrolls fan here. Can anyone tell me about Dark souls? I may get it and I am interested in the basis of the story. Further, should I play Demon Souls first? Thank you for your time. Edit: I am totally getting this game.

        [–]TheMagicToolBus 6 points7 points ago

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        First off, no need to play Demon's Souls. There are a small handful of references, but other than similar combat / mood, there's no connection between them.

        As for why it's a great game, there are many articles online that could probably sum it up better than I can. The best way I can describe it is the most visceral game I have ever played. The level design is superb, the combat is both incredibly simple and incredibly complex. The moment you get cocky the game punishes you for that. It's never cheap or random, but instead every single time you die you know exactly what you did wrong.

        As for the story, which is probably one of my favorite design choices: The game world doesn't give a fuck about you. It's not an exhibit whose sole purpose is to accommodate you. It feels like a living thing that could do just as well without you. It is the epitome of the good writing convention of "Show, don't tell." There is very little dialogue, and the NPCs rarely tell you anything important outright. You never really feel welcome, but in a way that is fun and hard to explain. This may sound a little discouraging, but on the contrary it makes the world feel that much more real, because it's not a play being put on in front of you. It is something you are stuck in the middle of.

        [–]god12 1 point2 points ago

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        Actually that totally sounds amazing! I am tired of being the star of the show! Getting the game. Thanks for your description.

        [–]Antrix32 2 points3 points ago

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        Demons souls is set in a different lore setting, and you don't have to play it. However, it is a great game, and will get you into the combat of the game. However it is more frustrating.

        Dark souls is an action RPG that relies heavily on being able to adapt to enemies, trial and error, and utilization of stats. The setting is dark and full of mystery, and is very nontraditional.

        The game is single player mainly, unless you summon others to help in your game, or you start PvP(which involves you invading other peoples games to kill them, supper fun).

        It is HARD. I would say i died at least 100 times within my first playthrough, and you will get frustrated. but from that frustration comes the best aspect of the game, defeating the challenges and finally overcoming them. Best feeling ever.

        [–]god12 2 points3 points ago

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        Sounds really good then. I am totally getting this game. Thanks for the tips and the description.

        [–]Antrix32 3 points4 points ago

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        No problem. Glad i helped convince another person to get the game, it really is fantastic.

        if you have any questions about the game, feel free to message me on here, or on Xbox live if your getting it for xbox(my gamertag is the same as my username)

        [–]god12 2 points3 points ago

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        Ps3 sorry. But still thanks man!

        [–]tenthousandvoices 1 point2 points ago

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        Its a dark, challenging, brooding game. It has a very well done combat system that gives way to intense and frustrating gameplay. The game has a huge skill cap, as people have done Level 1 runs of the entire game (to put that in perspective, I was level 90 at the end of my first playthrough). It's extremely atmospheric, and you will traverse the darkest, most foreboding areas you will ever experience, thinking to yourself "OH SHIT OH SHIT OH FUCK GET ME OUT OF HERE OH GOD WHY DON'T MAKE ME TURN THAT CORNER OH SHIT" (although Demon's Souls is a lot better in that aspect [which isn't necessary to play first, but definitely check it out if you liked Dark Souls]). The boss fights are tough, epic, and memorable. You can also play cooperatively online and take on the world of Lordran with a partner (or 2) in crime. You can also be invaded or invade others players worlds as a black phantom.

        It's a fantastic game that I (and most other people who have played it) strongly recommend.

        [–]sarpedonx 1 point2 points ago

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        You don't need to play Demon Souls.

        Here's a quick summary: I spent about 3 hours one day reading up on Dark Souls in October, having never played demon souls. I bought Dark Souls that day. It was the only game I played for weeks. Logged over 200 hours onto it. I just now am playing Skyrim - which I have had since November.

        [–]Harabeck 7 points8 points ago

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        For those who wish Skyrim were more challenging:

        http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=5485

        http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=3829

        [–]TheRedJester 0 points1 point ago

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        Fuck yess I was waiting for mods like this before picking up the game again, but I hadn't been paying close enough attention to know they were out. Thank you.

        [–]Harabeck 0 points1 point ago

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        You're welcome. I'd also suggest these two for better perk trees and progression:

        http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=6469

        http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=9359

        [–]JoeyRay 0 points1 point ago

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        Awesome

        [–]mikwest -1 points0 points ago

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        I don't really understand the need for these mods when localized damage doesn't exist.

        Yes, making the game harder is nice and all, but when "mercenary" keeps charging at me with three arrows in the head, two in the stomach, and has about 75% remaining life, honestly, wasn't the immersion broken a WHILE ago?

        [–]Harabeck 0 points1 point ago

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        Why are you bringing up immersion when I suggest mods that affect difficulty? Some people just want a more difficult game, and immersion doesn't play into it (although I think raising the difficulty does also increase immersion just by raising the stakes of every fight). Besides, with the Deadly Combat mod I linked, your example situation would never happen (unless instead of "mercenary" you were fighting a powerful vampire or something).

        [–]mikwest 0 points1 point ago*

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        I play on master difficulty, and when beginning archery, some guy running at you with 20 arrows on his body is just ridiculous. It's not "difficult", it's just goofy... Videogame-y, and I'm talking about weaksauce humanoid opponents, not a vampire or boss character. Especially when the arrow sticks in a non-armor covered part. Damn, that riles me up. I might tone the difficulty settings down to expert on my next playthrough so that dragon shouts might be relevant this way around, as well.

        So yeah, a combat realism mod would be nice. I'm not asking for VATS, but for a game with an "arrow to the knee" joke, I don't see enough enemies limping (when they do, they stand on the injured leg sometimes...) or dropping their weapons when shot through the fucking arm.

        Don't get me started on dovahkin being too retarded to stab someone in the back properly until you buy a perk. Cuz plunging a knife into the bit of exposed flesh requires years of fucking practice. Or a guy you stab in his sleep, you made a critical strike but his life bar is like 80%, he wakes up, and starts fighting as if I had stabbed the pillow instead. Kinda like that scumbag DM who would ask you to roll the dice for trivial bullshit every ten minutes.

        And THAT'S why I bring up immersion. I'm not anti-more hitpoints for the NPCs, but feel that skyrim could've used ragdolls for something more than fucking around with fus roh dah. Also, the "difficulty" amounts to nothing more than more hitpoints for the enemy and less damage for you in vanilla. Completely irrelevant once you've maxed out/glitched the fuck out of your smithing skill, but still annoying. Does deadly combat even it out, or simply turn NPCs into 999hitpoint targets & your lvl 81.5 character into a bitch?

        [–]Harabeck 0 points1 point ago

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        Deadly combat only effects health in that it ups the multiplier for master difficulty mode. The main point of the mod is to make the game harder in other ways. Weapon damage is raised and armor effectiveness is down (so in effect, you could see that as lowering health). Staggering or being staggered is more common, and blocking is much more important. Trust me, it's much more enjoyable than just having enemies have more health.

        [–]Antrix32 9 points10 points ago

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        Waited for months for skyrim

        Played it, beat it(main story and factions, that is) in 50 hours.

        Started playing dark souls

        90 hours in and still going on my first character.

        Sorry skyrim, you're awesome, but my 2011 game of the year goes to dark souls.

        [–]Ojimaru 4 points5 points ago

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        Last cell should be displaying the "Praise the Sun" emote. :D

        [–]Mahagna 13 points14 points ago

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        WINNER: Dark Souls

        [–]dolphindude 6 points7 points ago

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        In Dark Souls it is called the white light, not the fog gate. GET IT RIGHT!! However, in Demon's Souls, it is called the fog gate.

        [–]Eldritchsense 10 points11 points ago

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        Everyone still calls it a fog gate, because hey, it's still represented as a thick white fog :) Chillax.

        [–]Elephantom_Fanon 1 point2 points ago

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        Who wins

        Gravelord Nito VS Mehrunes Dagon

        [–]The_Dane 15 points16 points ago

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        Tyrion Lannister

        [–]applesforadam 3 points4 points ago

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        Only at Cyvasse.

        [–]Antrix32 0 points1 point ago

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        That was pretty Nito.

        [–]Endymion86 11 points12 points ago

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        Neither.

        They both get royally owned by Flamelurker.

        [–]Ojimaru 1 point2 points ago

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        I think Nito can still fit inside the ribcage in Flamelurkers, hence cheesing his way to victory like so many have.

        [–]Endymion86 0 points1 point ago

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        Haha, yeah, that's probably exactly what the cheap bastard would do, too.

        [–]doctorcrass 0 points1 point ago

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        or he'd put on the thief's ring and sit outside of flamelurkers aggro range spamming skeletons.

        [–]Endymion86 0 points1 point ago

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        You're giving me bad memories, man.

        [–]Deddan 0 points1 point ago

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        More wheeled skeletons!!!

        [–]Endriago 1 point2 points ago

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        HOLY SHIT. Cutest cartoon style for that character I've seen by far.

        [–]BlueThundah 1 point2 points ago

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        Praise the Sun!

        [–]KennyEdmunds 1 point2 points ago

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        Pretty sure that he copied this from an r/darksouls post. Not sure if the original post is OC, though.

        [–]laserkiwi 1 point2 points ago

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        Like everything else on this subreddit its from 4chan.

        [–]Deddan 1 point2 points ago

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        No its not, this is a reddit original.

        [–]Denivire 1 point2 points ago

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        Currently stuck on Ornstein and Smough.
        Fuck those guys.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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        NG+++++ was the worst thing ever. Thank fuck for those pillars...

        [–]guildguitarist 0 points1 point ago

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        Pyromancy hurts them, but if you want to cheese, crossbow works well getting down to 1v1.

        [–]Velolol 1 point2 points ago

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        MFW I'm human in the Kiln and its not a fog gate, but a gay fog wall

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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        I loved being attacked there. It felt so satisfying to succeed and go on to beat Gwyn.

        [–]Deddan 1 point2 points ago

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        Oo my comic on r/gaming! Where'd you find it, by the way? Always interested to see how far a picture can spread online :D

        [–]lookieausername 1 point2 points ago

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        Skyrim: easy skeletons

        Dark souls: skeletons have obsidian enforced bones

        [–]pinktrunks 0 points1 point ago

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        I'm pretty new to the game and am currently exploring the Undead Berg and all I can say about the slow moving skeletons with shields is: STOP WAITING FOR ME TO ATTACK SO I CAN EXPLOIT YOUR WEAKNESS!

        [–]Deddan 0 points1 point ago

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        Kick them! Kick them in their stupid, defensive faces and it will break their guard for the win.

        [–]pinktrunks 0 points1 point ago

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        Haha thanks! I find that holding the long sword with two hands lets me get in some weak damage, then they will attack and I can roll at them and swing at them from behind. Proud of myself. I got in my first riposte and parrying night. Praise the sun!

        [–]kiwisdontbounce 1 point2 points ago

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        Once DS is on PC I'll buy it.

        [–]LeonTrotskyVII 1 point2 points ago

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        I don't think I can upvote this enough.

        [–]One1zero1 1 point2 points ago

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        i wish i could upvote twice, this is exactly how i feel

        [–]LukaCola 7 points8 points ago

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        What is so great about dark souls anyway?

        Is it because it's more the dark horse of the RPG series that people support it with such conviction? Or is just a really phenomenal yet undersold game?

        Personally I haven't seen or heard anything unique about it, maybe if it comes to PC I'll give it a try...

        [–]applesforadam 22 points23 points ago

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        The difficulty has been the selling point, but it's not the best that can be said about it. The world design is gorgeous. The combat system is better than any action-RPG I've played. The amount of customization and equipment variation is great. All in all, it offers gamers a great experience where the progress is more internal. I'm a console player so I can't speak about PC games, but it has been the best gaming experience I've had in a long time. There's a few good articles about it, here is one

        [–]nicesalamander 19 points20 points ago

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        i think it is a pretty great game, there isn't much instruction so you can find your way through the world. the combat is great, your swings have weight to them and if you rush in to a situation you will die. the game looks pretty great it has a great art style and a large variety of environments.

        [–]MrBlueberryMuffin 8 points9 points ago

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        Dark Souls has some of the most intelligent level design I've seen in a game in a while. Yes, it is fairly linear; but not by force. You COULD go in the wrong direction, but you would most likely die if you tried it. So, the game forces you to go in the direction the developer's wanted you to go in without actually forcing it upon you.

        The game is also entirely based on efficiency. Its not about how much you grind, its about taking things slow and using as few resources as possible until you get to the next bonfire.

        The story is also some of the most unique I've ever seen in a game. The NPCs feel as though they are going through their own little adventures while you aren't around. While Skyrim feels like a play set for the player to poke at, Dark Souls feels more like a living breathing world that exists in spite of you.

        And the online play feels justified. It adds a lot to the experience, rather than being a separate experience from the game (not to say that it's necessary for the game, just to say it doesn't feel added in. It's a part of the experience.)

        I could go on longer if you're still unconvinced. But Dark Souls is the most solid I've ever seen a game be in a long time.

        [–]Silvard 4 points5 points ago

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        Dark Souls isn't linear at all, you can do a shitload of "sequence" breaking and you really have a lot of choices of several ways you can tackle something or get to a place or progress the story. It's just that the level design is so good that it feels linear, and it usually takes a veteran player to fully realize (and be able to survive) the "alternate" routes.

        Of course, compared to an Elder Scrolls game everything is linear.

        [–]MrBlueberryMuffin 4 points5 points ago

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        Thats what I was comparing it to ;D

        Its linear like a metroid game is linear.

        [–]walterpstarbuck 7 points8 points ago

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        This is the best article I've seen about Dark Souls: What Dark Souls is Really All About

        I think it offers a very solid answer to your question.

        [–]audiofreak 6 points7 points ago

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        I wouldn't say Dark Souls is "undersold," since 1.5million units have been shipped worldwide.

        For me, the difficulty is the drawing factor, but the fact that this giant world is a living being that desperately wants to kill you excites me to no end.

        The combat controls are very very precise, and you can literally "feel" the difference between every weapon type, armor, etc. Every enemy acts differently and patience is key in order to learn when to dodge, block, parry or strike.

        [–]Firewind 2 points3 points ago

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        It has more satisfying combat that skyrim, it's equally punishing to all play styles and then you have the added benefit of it not being a completely single player game. You can summon others or be invaded and do likewise.

        [–]Neilfallon 2 points3 points ago

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        If you watch Egoraptor's "Sequeltis" video on mega man, That will pretty much explain why retro gamers (and newer ones such as myself) love it. Also it's much more rewarding beating a Tough as nails boss after 20+ attempts trying to beat it rather than just seeing the big shiny glowing spot on the boss and beating them the first time.

        [–]Antrix32 0 points1 point ago

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        When you spend countless hours doing one task and failing over and over again, then you finally succeed, its the best feeling in the world.

        Dark souls.

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          [–]Babrook 0 points1 point ago

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          I love Dark Souls/Demon Souls.

          I don't love how many members of the community feel the need to put down every other RPG that isn't Dark Souls.

          [–]TheMagicToolBus 8 points9 points ago

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          Odd, because I spend a lot of time in /r/darksouls, and it is by far the least ragey of any gaming subreddit I've seen.

          If you're talking about the comic, it's called a joke, not a put down.

          [–]Babrook 2 points3 points ago

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          I also post on /r/darksouls and constantly see OH GEE DARK SOULS TOTALLY RUINED [insert game here] FOR ME.

          [–]Deddan 1 point2 points ago

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          That is not so much putting down other games, it's bigging up Dark Souls.

          [–]Eldritchsense 3 points4 points ago

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          I have to second this. I post pretty much every day in /r/darksouls, and I don't see anyone putting down other games. It's actually a pretty cool community in general, and as far as gaming communities go, one of the more respectful ones.

          [–]rmhawesome 1 point2 points ago

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          I think the comic was meant to illustrate how Skyrim is all about being able to do a million different various things, whereas Dark Souls is about brutal, grueling combat. The way he ran up to him and backstabbed is similar to how many players attack when they invade the world's of others

          Also everybody is going to compare the two since they came out at the same time

          [–]Antrix32 1 point2 points ago

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          I don't want to put down other RPG's, for example i love Kingdoms of Amalur right now despite it being a cake walk compared to dark souls. The reason dark souls stands out to me is, that even though i waited a year for Skyrim and such, dark souls is still the better game to me, even though i only bought it out of impulse and wasn't to interested in getting it prior to when i bought it.

          [–]RoyalYat 0 points1 point ago

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          As a level 1 currently fighting through the later half of the game, I have never been more gratified in a video game.

          [–]liz4rdk1ng 0 points1 point ago

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          I'm still 2 bosses short of completion. I fear it has been too long though and I won't have any idea what to do.

          [–]scrogu 0 points1 point ago

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          What I really want is Dark Souls difficulty, balance, controls and combat in a Skyrim open world setting.

          [–]sarpedonx 0 points1 point ago

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          Everybody does!!!

          [–]sarpedonx 0 points1 point ago

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          Oh fuck yes. I'm playing Skyrim right now...but I know I'll go back to Dark Souls as soon as I wrap this up.

          By the way - logged over 200 hours on Dark Souls already.

          [–]kilroy122 0 points1 point ago

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          First time i got cursed by sewer frogs... I wanted to die in real life. and then die again in real life every time after when the same thing happened.

          [–]SphereofWreckening 0 points1 point ago

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          Winner- Dark Souls

          [–]bladerunner89 0 points1 point ago

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          Fuck Yeah

          [–]Teekoo 0 points1 point ago

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          There is no way I would enjoy Dark Souls. I just rage too easily.

          [–]Fatzmanz 0 points1 point ago

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          Inb4 get a damn job (or a better one) and quit whining about not owning a console AND a pc. If you can afford skyrim, save up for a little bit and get an xbox or ps3.

          get a damn job (or a better one) and quit whining about not owning a console AND a pc. If you can afford skyrim, save up for a little bit and get an xbox or ps3.

          See inb4

          [–]MurkOKEN 0 points1 point ago

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          Dark Souls did what the new Castlevania lords of shadow game failed to do. Such a Great game.

          [–]TerminalHappiness 1 point2 points ago

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          I love the games but I don't see why there has to be any competition with Skyrim. They're hugely different games.

          [–]TheMagicToolBus 1 point2 points ago

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          Where is this competition you speak of? The comic? As the name implies... it's humor.

          This is something I see people say a lot, but I rarely see anyone actually act as if the games are competing. A vast majority of people enjoy both games, and frequently say so.

          [–]TerminalHappiness 0 points1 point ago

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          I'm not referring to any major competitiveness, just the hint of it from the comic.

          Though I agree with your second point.

          [–]twitchytongue -3 points-2 points ago

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          pls, have all my upvotes

          [–]revwhack -1 points0 points ago

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          I'm a level 378 uber-mage in darksouls, & I approve this message.

          [–]doctorcrass 0 points1 point ago

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          you used the infinite souls dupe and therefore are not a real darksouls player.

          [–]revwhack 0 points1 point ago

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          ....Cute,tempting, but no. I can't believe they left that glaring bug in there, & I was giddy when they finally fixed it. I got a blown tendon at work & had to take time off. It pissed me off so much, but I kept playing, through the pain, through the injury. Totalling almost 350 hours. Thanks to Dark Souls I managed a serious injury without any pain killers & the rage twitches were like physio on my knee. I got up to New game ++++. Admittedly ALOT of soul came from PVP (I love people that would try me when they were sitting on 2 million + souls) God-dammed 4 kings (By FAR the hardest enemy once you start getting into crazy territory) that & people using the fog ring & trying to pvp (such a piss off)

          Dark Souls: More curative then Jesus!

          P.S. keep raging against the prissy little newbs. (Bitches need a fog ring to dodge my magic, but there is no dodging a kick off a fucking cliff)

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            [–]Knov -1 points0 points ago

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            I can't believe people still don't have a PS3. It's been out for many, many years and it's only $300.

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