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STOP RESISTING!!! (pointlessprojects.com)
submitted 6 months ago by Mind_Virus
[–][deleted] 191 points192 points193 points 6 months ago
The biggest gang in America.
[–]FuriousFapmaster 66 points67 points68 points 6 months ago
and one of the most ruthless.
[–]MalcolmReynoldsWrap 44 points45 points46 points 6 months ago
Easily the most murderous.
[–]herpa_da_derpa 31 points32 points33 points 6 months ago
Maybe not exactly the most murderous, but definitely the most unpunished.
[–]MalcolmReynoldsWrap 40 points41 points42 points 6 months ago
Fair enough. But at least the other gangs aren't trying to convince the nation that they killings you are funding are morally right.
[–]herpa_da_derpa 4 points5 points6 points 6 months ago
Agreed!
[–]a_small_thump 5 points6 points7 points 6 months ago
I assume we're leaving the military outta this, then...?
EDIT: Supporting the troops is one thing--most people know a friend or family member who's joined the services. However, I'm rather sure the military blows up/kills more innocent people than the police, and also know that talking badly about the military is the #1 cardinal American sin these days.
[–]kronos0 6 points7 points8 points 6 months ago
I hate that we have to support the troops or else we're bad people. I know they're putting their lives on the line - so what? A man robbing a grocery store is putting his life on the line too, and I don't see people putting ribbons on their bumpers to support him.
I know for some of them, they THINK they really are protecting us, but that doesn't change the reality of the situation. And for what's it worth, everyone I know who has joined the army has been a dick.
[–]Cinnacism 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
Love the troops, hate the war, I say. I don't support the decisions of the government, and I abhor war in all its forms, but I can respect the amount of bravery it takes to throw your life on the line like that. It shows a resolve that I happen to lack.
[–]TrilateralCommission 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
I don't see how you can compare a military member to a robber. I understand if you don't agree with supporting the troops; however, one person is putting their life on the line for personal gain and the other is putting their life on line to defend.
Supporting the troops does not equal agreeing with their mission. I don't understand why we are still in Iraq/Afghanistan but I still support the troops by sending goods. Just because they get sent somewhere we don't agree with does not means we should say screw off.
[–]a_small_thump 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
FWIW, two of my best buddies are in the forces and are very, very good people. So I do support them, but I don't generalize--just because I support them doesn't mean I support the war or the troops in general. I do admire their courage.
My buddies both found themselves without jobs and just went into the military to get away from bad situations and earn some money. Both tried for non-combatant positions; one was told he'd be a field medic helping children in third-world countries. He ended up in Afghanistan (surprise surprise). I can't condemn him for that. His intentions were good.
It's the military as an entity that I don't support. Many of the people within it are fine people.
[–]Mekongcola 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
Don't you question your friends choices when they join an organization that murders just so they get "get a job"?
[–]a_small_thump 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
Yes I do, but I also don't expect them to be infallible human beings. Instead of blaming them, I blame the recruiters who say "Oh yeah, you'll be helping kids in 3rd world countries."
[–]kronos0 4 points5 points6 points 6 months ago
Yeah, you're right, I probably came off sounding too harsh. There are good and bad people in the military, just like anything else. I just don't necessarily think people become saints by joining the military. I just don't think they're any better or worse than a regular citizen.
Ditto.
[–]Gobhoblin 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
What is the military other than a sum of the people in it? I thought libertarians would know and avoid this fallacy more than anyone else.
For what it's worth, having good intentions (everyone has good intentions in everything they do, so this is a meaningless statement) and appearing as a "very, very good person" to close friends does not preclude someone from being evil.
Very true, and also, I'm not a libertarian. Just stumbled into this thread.
However, if a man says "Here, join me and we'll go help all those starving people," and I join him, then he says "Nope, actually, take this gun and go shoot at those people instead," why am I evil for signing up? Why is he not the evil one for lying and coercing me into a position in which I have to fight?
[–]MalcolmReynoldsWrap -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 months ago
Same gang, different location.
[–]z3ddicus 3 points4 points5 points 6 months ago
There is no way any gang has murdered anywhere remotely close to the number of people that the police have.
[–]herpa_da_derpa 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
I'll believe it when I see the research.
[–]omenofdread 19 points20 points21 points 6 months ago
For more rage inducing footage be sure to check out the aptly named video The largest street gang in America.
[–]15Dalrymple 11 points12 points13 points 6 months ago*
Fuck I couldn't get past the second video. This is sickening these cops should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and in an ideal world that would be made somebody's bitch in prison.
[–]omenofdread 5 points6 points7 points 6 months ago
The saddest part about the whole exchange is that we are but scratching the surface of a very deep and horrific truth. Surely not all cops are like this, but some are.
[–]shady8x 5 points6 points7 points 6 months ago
Surely not all cops are like this, but some are.
And most will protect them while helping to terrorize the few('rats') amongst them that do not.
[–]daniel7860 8 points9 points10 points 6 months ago
And the best funded one.
[–]MalcolmReynoldsWrap 3 points4 points5 points 6 months ago
By you and me, bro. Hell, it's more just the oft made fun of protection racket than anything else.
[–]TonyDiGerolamo 36 points37 points38 points 6 months ago
Wow. So wrong and unprofessional.
[–]kbud 15 points16 points17 points 6 months ago
But so normal. This is EXACTLY how cops roll.
[–]robfplusp 6 points7 points8 points 6 months ago
That's not at all true and you know it. Members of every group on the planet do stupid things.
[–]BellicoseBaby 11 points12 points13 points 6 months ago
There's stupid, and then there's psychopath stupid. They are physically beating someone with clubs. That is not stupid. They are enjoying it.
[–]robfplusp 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago
Yes, and that type of behavior is absurd and if it goes unpunished then that's just an injustice.
[–]z3ddicus 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
And it does as it always does with police.
http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2011/04/jefferson_county_personnel_boa_4.html
[–]robfplusp 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
Copy/pasting the same article to everyone who disagrees with you is a pretty poor way of attempting to discuss a topic.
It does not always happen that way.
You said
that type of behavior is absurd and if it goes unpunished then that's just an injustice
I linked to an article showing that this did in fact go unpunished. I was responding to this specific comment with a relevant piece of information.
[–]LogicalWhiteKnight 8 points9 points10 points 6 months ago*
It's not just a few memebers though, it seems to be the majority. How many cops do you know who wouldn't throw a couple extra hits in on a perp who just killed a fellow officer, or something like that? The majority of cops can become excessively violent under the right circumstances, all that means is that they are human. I'm not saying they are terrible for doing this in every situation, I can sympathise, but the point is they should face legal reprocussions for their mistakes the same as any other person. If they take matters into their own hands and use excessive force, they should be punished.
Edit: I know full well if someone killed my best friend in front of me I would use some "excessive force" and probably fucking kill the person. But I would end up in jail for that, and I would know it going in, and it would be worth it to me. The cops need to have that same fear, so they do not act with excessive force unless it is really worth the consequences to them. With no consequences (or very little) they act with excessive force far more often than they should.
The problem is that it is just a few members. Every time an officer does something that someone doesn't like, it's all over the internet. If an officer does his job without issue, or goes above and beyond and does something truly heroic, they'll never be recognized for it.
So there's a big disparity in what people see and hear about. And then this leads to people thinking that all officers everywhere are corrupt assholes that will not help you.
I've never once been a victim or witness to any member of law enforcement being unfair or abusive.
Sorry, but you're wrong.
I disagree that all members of law enforcement are criminals and you counter with one article about five individuals.
Well, I just got my ass handed to me. ಠ_ಠ
[–]SETHW 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
these are not isolated incidents, what you actually see is just the tip of the iceberg. most of these incidents never make it to the public.
[–]z3ddicus 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
He said that this was business as usual. You disagreed. I linked to an article showing that it was declared that this was actually business as usual and none of these officers lost their jobs or were charged.
[–]robfplusp 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
There are more than five officers in the country. The sample is not representative of the population.
Thinking that posting one article regarding five officers is somehow going to prove your point to be correct is laughable.
Not all members of law enforcement behave that way.
It was decided, by the entire police enforcement organization of this area, that the actions of these officers was totally justified. That involves far more than just five officers. It involves the very institution of law enforcement in the US.
[–]mjmedstarved 19 points20 points21 points 6 months ago
Sorry, I come from a family of cops and I even think the majority of them are asshats.
[–]robfplusp 3 points4 points5 points 6 months ago
I'm sorry to hear that. I've had nothing but positive experiences with police officers.
[–]mostlyferal 5 points6 points7 points 6 months ago
I'm going to go ahead and take a stab at it: are you, by any chance, white and not poor?
I'm white and definitely not rich.
So that's a yes.
No.
[–]z3ddicus -2 points-1 points0 points 6 months ago
I've never experienced this, so clearly there is no problem!
That's not at all what I said. Your attempts are twisting my words to suit your own bias are rather sad.
[–]SETHW 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
what is more relevant, that you had positive experiences, or that someone, anyone, anywhere is experiencing cops that bully beat and steal from them? "but judge, what about all the banks i DIDNT rob!?"
[–]max_planck 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
Of course this is true. Individuals of every group can do stupid/evil things, but the real issue when libertarians typically talk about things like police brutality isn't whether cops do these things. It's what happens to them when they do do them.
[–]dlpwillywonka 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
The major is problem is how many good cops came out in protest of this type of treatment?
Funny, I thought the major problem is that select members of law enforcement were beating the shit out of people.
[–]dlpwillywonka 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
Select members that are going unpunished. That is a symptom of the problem.
I agree. I've been fortunate to have had many positive experiences with law enforcement, but that is not the same for everyone.
If that isn't true, why do all of these officers have their jobs and no criminal convictions?
[–]z3ddicus -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago
It is very true and we all know it. What are you talking about?
I'm talking about the fact that it's not true.
[–]londubhawc -2 points-1 points0 points 6 months ago
Wait, let me see if I understand your post. You say that all groups contain fucktards, therefore a certain group cannot contain fucktards?
That's not at all what I said.
[–]Shabobo 41 points42 points43 points 6 months ago
Not trolling, but what does this have to do with libertarians?
[–]Electrorocket 69 points70 points71 points 6 months ago
Part of libertarianism is believing there are way too many laws, and hence, too many police and prisons, leading to an excess of underqualified, power tripping meat-heads in positions of power.
[–]Shabobo 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago
I mean, isn't every government belief against cops being corrupted with power though?
[–][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points 6 months ago
Mind Virus is a re-poster. Simply all he does is re-post old content in new subreddits. Look through his history. It's sickening and everyone falls for it.
[–]BigGovt 10 points11 points12 points 6 months ago
The ultimate r/libertarian spammer.
[–]-J-P- 4 points5 points6 points 6 months ago
Do we know how much money he's made with that so far?
[–]MouseWithTheOverbite 14 points15 points16 points 6 months ago
It's gotta be in the 10's of cents!
[–]mocotazo 8 points9 points10 points 6 months ago
He's the worst fucking karma whore on Reddit.
[–]buddascrayon 3 points4 points5 points 6 months ago
HOLY CHRIST! You are so right, I just checked his profile. 818,000+ karma in only one year?!?!?!?!?
[–]JoCoLaRedux 13 points14 points15 points 6 months ago
Honestly? I like some of the content he posts, so I really don't give a shit.
[–]MalcolmReynoldsWrap 5 points6 points7 points 6 months ago
It's new to me, dude.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
But when someone is simply going through old post and submitting the link with the exact same title, they are the worsening the system by inflating the community with a old/non-original content regardless of whether you've seen it or not.
[–]level1 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
Reposts are okay. Re-read the rediquitte.
[–]WASDx 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
He's also a scumbag: http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/k6dta/i_called_out_mod_mind_virus_for_karma_whoring_and/ + http://www.reddit.com/r/worstof/comments/nbi1d/mind_virus_on_banning_user_from_his_anything_goes/
[–]lochlainn 4 points5 points6 points 6 months ago
Police power is the most visible and direct use of force by the government on its citizens.
Rightly or wrongly, police have powers granted to them that citizens do not, so they should be held to higher standards of conduct while using them. They (obviously) are not.
This is the supreme slippery slope. The police, confident in their protection from laws ordinary citizens must obey, ignore their responsibilities. Eventually, they become a protected class with a license to kill at will.
[–]Shabobo 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
Cops corrupted with power: I don't think anyone is for that. Why specific to libertarians?
[–]lochlainn 3 points4 points5 points 6 months ago
It's not, really. But this is /r/libertarian, so it's likely to be discussed from that viewpoint.
Also, a good portion of libertarians (anarcho-capitalists) think that any use of force other than self-defense is wrong, thus making government in general illegitimate. The rest of us also tend to see government violence on citizens through that lens as well, since it's the antithesis of the personal freedom we desire.
[–]howhard1309 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
I don't think anyone is for that.
Read some of the Youtube comments for a clear rebuttal of your claim.
[–]PipingHotSoup 4 points5 points6 points 6 months ago
The most vocal minority of the libertarian crowd, the anarcho-capitalists, argue police and law should be privately controlled. Bastiat, Friedman(s), and Rothbard have a lot of libertarian papers discussing the fact that cops currently have an unlimited supply of money by taxation. If they were forced to please their customers to retain business, they would default to less expensive but more productive conflict resolution methodologies.
[–]kurtu5 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
There is a claim that we need special state law enforcement because they can stay cool under pressure and regular people with guns would act like animals when someone commits a crime.
So we need police. Cool and calm rational pros. Clearly this is BS. The police can not remain cool and calm and act just as bad as any nonstate posse would. Hell they even act worse.
We are living in a police state.
[–]123GoTeamShake 20 points21 points22 points 6 months ago
Mind_Virus is the worst reposter on this site:
http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/pwd8s/stop_resisting/
I'm not sure how he brought this over to r/libertarian
[–]outwrangle 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
To get karma. It's all he cares about.
[–]michaelmclees 4 points5 points6 points 6 months ago
That guy in the end did an Agent Smith on his head.
[–]herdofwhat 11 points12 points13 points 6 months ago
God that's fucked.
[–]bondogban 43 points44 points45 points 6 months ago
context? Who is this guy? If you want this to be more than a circle jerk, you have to explain some things.
[–]ap66crush 50 points51 points52 points 6 months ago
Birmingham Al. Full video
[–]rspeed 19 points20 points21 points 6 months ago
I'm very impressed with the way Chief Roper handled the situation. That has to be an incredibly difficult position to be put in and he handled it exceptionally well. If only more police chiefs could be like him.
[–]TeddyTheWonderLizard 34 points35 points36 points 6 months ago
3 of the officers were reinstated. unfreakingbelievable.
[–]rspeed 15 points16 points17 points 6 months ago
Well that's some bullshit.
Correction.. all 5 were reinstated...
[–]blarghusmaximus[] 4 points5 points6 points 6 months ago
holyfuckshitwhatthefuckGODFUCKINGDAMNIT
[–]rspeed 8 points9 points10 points 6 months ago
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
[–]ilikesushi 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
Some like to claim that because of the ubiquity of smartphones, police will no longer be able to get away with ridiculous shit, because there could be a citizen recording their actions. But then I see that even when the police are caught on tape behaving... badly, nothing happens to them, because the police police the police. So go ahead, tape the police all you want. They don't fucking care.
[–]outwrangle 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
Read the comments.
[–]Etchii 14 points15 points16 points 6 months ago
Impressed!?
The first f'n thing he said about this incident "We can't hide it..."
[–]hot_boy_ronald 6 points7 points8 points 6 months ago
"We would love to hide it if we could"
[–]discolando 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
Is there a story available that explains all of this?
[–]rspeed 7 points8 points9 points 6 months ago
Yeah… the video ap66crush linked to.
[–]richmomz 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
After watching that and seeing that he deliberately tried to run over one of the cops and sideswiped another I understand why they were so pissed. Not saying police brutality is ok, but I probably would have beaten his ass in the heat of the moment too.
[–]bondogban 5 points6 points7 points 6 months ago
We can now justifiably "fuck the police"
[–]JonFrost -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 months ago
Ignoring the officers, for just a second, that driver was no saint either... (0:07 in that vid)
[–]LogicalWhiteKnight 8 points9 points10 points 6 months ago
Rodney King was no saint either, but that doesn't justify excessive use of force. I don't care if the perp JUST killed your partner, your best friend, and your dog right in front of you, if you beat them after they are subdued, you should face legal reprocussions, even if you are a cop.
[–]lochlainn 9 points10 points11 points 6 months ago
Exactly! They are not the judge, jury, or executioner. They should be held to at least the same standards as any citizen, if not a higher one.
Tacit approval of police brutality like this makes them effectively above the law, and all of us who aren't so blessed second-class citizens.
[–]b00ks 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
While I don't necessarily disagree with you, cops are human as well. Everyone sees red from time to time. If someone killed my partner, best friend and dog right infront of me, I'd like to think that I wouldn't see red... but my dog is pretty damn awesome and I would likely roid rage like a son of a bitch.
Hindsight is 20/20.
Again, not that I am condoning their actions, but there are two sides to every story.
[–]LogicalWhiteKnight 5 points6 points7 points 6 months ago
Oh indeed, if someone killed my best friend in front of me I would probably kill them on the spot. However, I would go to jail for that, and I would know that I was going to go to jail for it while I was doing it, and it would be totally worth it to me. The problem I have is that the cops don't have to go to jail for it, in fact often they receive no punishment at all, except perhaps paid time off. That means the incentives are all wrong, and cops do not have to be nearly as concerned with using excessive force or engaging in vigiliante justice as a civilian. They don't need to be concerned with killing innocent people, so it's not a big surprise that they kill innocent people pretty often. I'm not saying cops should always go to jail if they accidentally kill someone innocent, i'm just saying that if it can be proven that the cops acted with excessive force, intentially and knowingly, they should be punished. If that excessive force leads to a death, they should certianly be fired and charged with a crime, which doesn't happen currently.
[–]alostsoldier 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
Yes. Everyone does see red from time to time and guess what when I do. I am completely responsible to charges that I rack up. They are never responsible for their actions.
[–]JonFrost 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
I don't care if the perp JUST killed your partner, your best friend, and your dog right in front of you
ಠ_ಠ ........
[–]LogicalWhiteKnight 9 points10 points11 points 6 months ago
What is your issue with what I said? The police are there to bring people to justice, not to dish it out themselves. If the perp is subdued and not resisting, then there is no justification to beat them, EVER, no matter what the circumstances.
Save it for the court room.
[–]ControlThem 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
I read his 2nd comment before your 1st. And I agreed with him until if found that he took your quote way out of context. It's like
The police are there to bring people
Bring people where? That's not the purpose of the police.
[–]LogicalWhiteKnight 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago
Ya, i'm not saying I don't understand the cops doing this, I really do understand. It's just that if I did it I would go to jail, the cops should also have to worry about potential jailtime for vigilante justice.
[–]JonFrost -5 points-4 points-3 points 6 months ago
What is your issue with what I said?
If some asshole...
...JUST killed your partner, your best friend, and your dog right in front of you...
...quite frankly, I'd kill him back. What's more, I think even you, and most people with a beating heart would too.
I suppose in principle, I do agree with what you were trying to say, but I just found your view unbelievably idealistic (thanks to your exaggerated example); This isn't a perfect world, we're human, not Jedi.
[–]Greydmiyu 9 points10 points11 points 6 months ago
I'd kill him back. What's more, I think even you, and most people with a beating heart would too.
Yes. And if you were caught on tape killing someone who had been subdued, basically an execution, while we can sympathize with the position the fact remains that you would be justified for being prosecuted for murder.
Or, in this case, if you were caught on tape beating the shit out of someone who is clearly unconscious, regardless of what happened previously, you would be justified for being prosecuted for assault.
Cops rarely, if ever, are.
That is the problem.
[–]LogicalWhiteKnight 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
What greydmiyu said. I would kill the guy back too, but I would do so knowing full well I would go to prison for it. The cops should face legal consequences when they act out of line. It is still their choice to act out of line, but they shouldn't be protected any more than the rest of us.
What is your point?
[–]mighty_mango_man 38 points39 points40 points 6 months ago
Well, unless that guy was some sort of mutant with the ability to harm police while unconscious, I think the gif speaks for itself.
Context is important - the video shows that in the 30 seconds prior to the .gif clip he tried to run over one cop and sideswiped another. Although the beating wasn't justified, I understand why they were so pissed.
[–]Geocat 14 points15 points16 points 6 months ago
He apparently tried to run over a cop, and they got a bit worked up over it.
[–]zedoriah 19 points20 points21 points 6 months ago
He apparently tried to run over a cop swerve out of the way of something the cops threw in front of him, and they got a bit worked up over it.
When somebody throws something in front of a car they shouldn't be surprised when the driver swerves to avoid it.
[–]koft 28 points29 points30 points 6 months ago
When a horde of cops are trailing you down the highway and throwing shit in front of your car, that's usually an indication that one should probably pull over.
[–]NoMoreNicksLeft 3 points4 points5 points 6 months ago
If they're going to beat you mercilessly like this, it's a good indication that you should get the fuck out of there.
[–]mygoditshim 13 points14 points15 points 6 months ago
You're seeing it from the perspective of a sane person. You need to think about it from the perspective of someone in a minivan trying to outrun the police.
I think his point was that it was an expected reaction from someone with the goal of continuing the chase: He sees something thrown in front of his vehicle, he tries to steer away from that something. It doesn't look like he was consciously aiming at the cop, and that it was rather an accident - and something the cop should have expected.
[–]luciddr34m3r 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago
Sorry, swerving towards a police officer in a high speed chase to avoid capture isn't okay, even if he was trying to avoid road spikes. It was an abuse of power after the fact, but don't defend the guy swerving towards the cop.
I could also say "don't be surprised when people kick you ass when you swerve to hit one of their friends," but then it would sound like I'm defending the actions of the cops, and I'm not.
Guy in the van was evading police, the police had the right to use force to stop the fugitive, they used too much force after the fact and were rightly terminated (and the investigation continues). Shouldn't have happened, but at least they are taking responsibility.
[–]lochlainn -2 points-1 points0 points 6 months ago
There's no way to defend him or not. Neither we nor those cops are his judge and jury.
They do not have the right to use force. They have the responsibility to protect citizens and their property. High speed pursuits happen too damn often and cost too much in property and lives to innocent bystanders, which sure as hell isn't protecting us. This never should have proceded to the point where he hit the cop.
Better to follow discretely and arrest him when he's isolated from a 2000 lb vehicular weapon.
[–]draben -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago
He ran over the cop. Watch the video again. At least the officers foot was under the wheel. Sorry, but if you're leading police on a high speed chase while endangering not only those officers and other drivers on the road, you get no consideration for swerving and hitting an officer when your swerve also encompasses an attempt at further evasion.
[–]zzeke 23 points24 points25 points 6 months ago
The guy got thrown from his vehicle and was not moving at all when the police started assaulting him. We don't live under an "eye for an eye" system. These cops clearly acted unprofessionally, outside the code of conduct, and outside of the law. They should be charged with assault just like the offender.
I don't disagree. They were reprimanded, and I think five of them lost their jobs at the least.
[–]weretheman 6 points7 points8 points 6 months ago
the were all reinstated link
[–]zzeke 3 points4 points5 points 6 months ago
Well, that's a good thing.
[–]zedoriah 17 points18 points19 points 6 months ago
Except they were all rehired.
[–]zzeke 4 points5 points6 points 6 months ago
....aaand that's a bad thing.
[–]BigGovt -5 points-4 points-3 points 6 months ago
If I ever run a cop over on purpose I expect to get the living shit beat out of me.
[–]Geocat 7 points8 points9 points 6 months ago
Even if your already knocked the fuck out?
I mean dont get me wrong, I dont feel sorry for someone getting their ass kicked if they tried to run down a cop, but its overkill if the guys already knocked the fuck out. Hell for all they knew, he could of already been dead from the crash, the way he was totally motionless, or the beating could of outright killed if he was already injured enough. Police shouldn't be in the business of attempting executions in a ditch.
[–]BigGovt -2 points-1 points0 points 6 months ago
What can I say? It's a rough world out there. You run over a cop and you'll probably get fucked up as a result... even if you're already unconscious. I didn't say it's right, didn't say it's wrong... just reality.
[–]Eurynom0s 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
What context could there possibly be? The guy is clearly incapacitated by the time they're beating the shit out of him.
[–]NoMoreNicksLeft 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
If he were Hitler, what was the point of beating on him unconscious being flung out of a wrecked car?
[–]ap66crush 3 points4 points5 points 6 months ago
This happened in Birmingham Alabama, a few years ago now I think.
Full video
[–]feralkitten 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
There was a similar beating at my apartment complex that year (also in birmingham, alabama).
There was a guy that kept breaking into cars at my apartment complex by breaking out the car windows. My roommate saw him but the guy got away. A few weeks later we hear glass shattering again and call the cops.
They block off the exit streets and surround the guy. We are on the second floor and can see it all go down. He can't run this time, so he tried to climb a fence. When the police catch him, he takes a swing at one. BAD IDEA. They beat the ever living shit out of him.
When the were done with him, my roommate couldn't confirm it was the same guy he had seen before.]
Personally i don't think cops should be beating an unconscious man who just flipped his van. However, that jack ass that took my car stereo, shattered my windows, and THEN still took a swing at a cop. He deserves a little beating. I'm never getting that stereo back, and i'm just out the money for it and my window. He drove to our apartment complex in a stolen vehicle, so he isn't getting out of jail anytime soon.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago
Yeah! He doesn't deserve constitutional rights! He stole your stereo! That's way more important than the Bill of Rights! /s
People like you are what broke America.
[–]deletecode 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago
Those cops need some blow-up dummies to beat down at the station to get out this angst. Seriously, driving around all day, even when you're not in a high speed chase, gets you very annoyed.
[–]Re-Bone 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
"Ok, everyone in the gym for 20 minutes of free-beating before your shift!"
[–]mclaren2 16 points17 points18 points 6 months ago
That is sick. Are these humans?
[–]PhotoShopNewb 6 points7 points8 points 6 months ago
I would say so yes. Very human.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago
Hi there. Welcome to planet Earth.
[–]rustyspy -2 points-1 points0 points 6 months ago
What you don't see in this is what happened right before. The perp intentionally ran over a cop at full speed. Hence the beat down. Not that it's right; but understandable.
[–]bfogarty27 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
This has been posted so many damn times, no surprise that it's mind virus reposting a repost of a repost
[–]Jeg_Faller 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
The government sponsored mafia.
[–]__bob__ 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
Where are the repost bots when you need them?
Oh man. That guy was clearly unconscious. What in the holy fuck.
[–]bobroberts7441 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
Fuck you statists bastards, I'm going over to AnCap.
"If the cops have to chase you, they're bringing as ass-beatin' with em!" - Chris Rock
[–]hemingsoft 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
How Not to Get Your Ass Kicked by the Police
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8
[–]Mottsdale 10 points11 points12 points 6 months ago
He didn't TRY to run over a cop. He did run over a cop. This guy is a POS.
[–]ryanman 44 points45 points46 points 6 months ago
No question the guy in the van deserved to go to Jail. Part of being a good police officer is being professional even when it's hard, which these guys failed to do.
I lived in Birmingham and I could never be a cop here and keep my sanity. I don't know how someone could handle the shit they must see every day - but nonetheless, I demand it of them anyway. No excuse for 5 men beating the shit out of someone just ejected from a car.
[–]Shabobo 8 points9 points10 points 6 months ago
I agree. This must have been extremely emotionally upsetting for all of the officers involved, but they do have an expectation to keep.
Although, I really don't know what this have to do with libertarianism.
[–]betterthanthee -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago
it's trendy to hate on cops
[–]battins 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
I guess we can't count on you to kill your share of cops, don't worry I'm sure someone will pick up your slack.
[–]Mottsdale 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
I agree too. There are far more important people being taken advantage of by the police.
[–]borntoperform 12 points13 points14 points 6 months ago*
The guy's car rolled over, he flew out of the vehicle, and then he went unconscious!!! Does all that still demand that five cops physically assault him? HELL TO THE NO!
k not saying its right but have a guy who is endangering everyone hit and ruin the life of one of your best friends then see how easy it is. Yes you'll say that they are cops they never should act like this. well they're humans and humans have emotions sometimes it gets the best of people.
[–]borntoperform 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
To be redundant: the guy flew out of a car and went unconscious! He could have even dead yet the cops still beat the crap out of him (even though he wasn't dead, but the point still stands)! I'm glad their jobs were terminated.
[–]hidarez 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago
Sometimes it just feels good
[–]blarghusmaximus[] 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
Just to piss you off even more -- all five cops were given their jobs back: http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2011/04/jefferson_county_personnel_boa_4.html
[–]NickWasHere09 17 points18 points19 points 6 months ago
That doesn't excuse them beating the shit out of him in that condition.
[–]RamenOps 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
He was swerving around a tire strip they had just thrown in front of him; it's not like he was trying to hit him.
[–]ChewbacKev 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
real?
[–]RastaFarva 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
"He's knocked out!... quit resisting!!!"
[–]joomba08 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
I watched the full video but it still hasn't been covered, did the guy in the video/image die? I don't know how anyone could have survived that and he looked pretty dead, but anyone have verification?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
Corpses today, I swear, have no respect for authority.
[–]ebski94 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
i remember when i was younger and i got in trouble at school for saying ill get my charizard to beat you up to another kid good times
[–]CurseWord 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
This guy obviously wasnt black because I havent seen anyone play the race card yet...
[–]TinHao 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
That guy had it coming, what with the way his corpse(?) was laying there, all inert and everything.
[–]sugar_free_rockstar 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
Back story?
[–]InaneMembrane 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
Ahem, you are beating up a dead guy. WTF?
[–]AquaNeito 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
that guy had to be stoped! the cops saved the day!
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[–]darthhayek 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
In my opinion, anybody endangering the safety of the general public by engaging in a high-speed police chase on a public highway deserves to be completely incapacitated by any means necessary.
Why was it necessary for six policer officers to pile on top of him?
[–]r0nson 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
yea, and when he gets paralyzed he can sue the police for not taking proper precautions after an accident. surprised they didnt blow up the car to cover their tracks by destroying the video.
If I were an officer on the scene and I came up on that guy lying face down in the mud, I'd have no way of being sure that he was, in fact, unconscious and not hiding a locked & loaded firearm underneath himself, feigning injury until he got the opportunity to start firing.
Seriously? That's ridiculous.
[–]patchbag 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
This all started because the cops wanted to question him about drugs.
[–]koft -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago
If I were a cop and I saw a guy run over one of my buddies I'd probably wail on him too.
[–]SpiritofJames 10 points11 points12 points 6 months ago
That's why you should never be a cop.
[–]koft 7 points8 points9 points 6 months ago
I'd never take up the job of a police officer because I couldn't justify ruining a guys life over a joint.
[–]YesYesLibertarians 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago
I wouldn't.
[–]koft -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 months ago
This isn't all that great of an example of a civil liberties violation by unruly cops because the guy had it coming. There are countless examples of police fucking over completely innocent people, those would be better examples to highlight the problem than this.
[–]PimpDawg 5 points6 points7 points 6 months ago
"Had it coming" Correct. Civil liberties should only be given to people we like. WTF? You're in the wrong subreddit.
[–]ryanman 15 points16 points17 points 6 months ago
had it coming
Like when women wear short skirts!
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[–]ryanman 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
so maaadddddd
[–]About75PercentSure 3 points4 points5 points 6 months ago
He was innocent, he hadn't been proven guilty yet. Cops are cops because they do not have the deductive powers to be judges. Cops should do as they're told, and they are told to arrest people, not punish them.
[–]Biologos101 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
So you believe there are certain situations that allow for cops to use their own kind of "justice?"They can just throw due process out the window and deal out their own punishment? Hmmm...Sounds like the making of a police state to me.
[–]aspired1 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago
/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago*
Watch the video. This man nearly killed another person. I really don't care what they did to him after he finally wrecked. This man is a criminal with no care about another persons life. He deserved the following beating.
Context: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fUuz-lBM1g&list=HL1329790939&feature=mh_lolz
[–]Libertarian_Atheist 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago
That was another jack-booted cop he "nearly killed."
I don't trust the cops when they say that he committed some crime that even gave them the right to get him to stop.
[–]CocaineCowbo -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 months ago
Whats disgusting to me isnt the man being beaten, while unconscious, by a number of POs, but that many people in here disregard any actions these criminals and felons commit in these types of situation. Yes, the officers are animals, yes they should of lost their jobs, yes they should be charged, and yes cops are a few of many professions abusing power. The crazy thing is no matter what happened, say the driver killed a little girl, or ran into a group of vehicles and everything blew up like a Michael Bay movie, or he runs over an officer.... Hell he could of done nothing other than resist arrest... and what those officers did would still be wrong. BUT the audacity of you fuck tards, that sit around looking to go against the grain of the social norm and defend this POS driver, is beyond me. I dislike strong government as much as the next Libertarian in here, but these circle jerks about a serious profession being labeled as a gang or corrupted mob really just makes most of you sound like delusional conspiracy karma whores. Any post in here defending either parties in this situation is completely moronic.
TL;DR: Once again another circle jerk, where a criminal isnt a criminal, and cops are all bad.
[–]bigpoppastevenson 3 points4 points5 points 6 months ago
If you had commented on a specific post, I'd have an idea of who you thought was defending either party. You take issue with what you perceive to be the generalization of police behaviour, but you're committing the same fallacy about people commenting on the topic. There are valid points to be made about the public opinion of police, but you fall far short of making them.
The ideas that you attempt to present in your comment are probably both the most poorly formed and the most poorly expressed that I've read today. For the former problem, I have no suggestion, but for the latter: If English isn't your first language, you should probably avoid writing the same way you speak. Speech has the benefit of timing and inflection to help a person be understood. Punctuation serves similarly in writing, but since it doesn't come across obviously in speech, speech is no way to learn it. Read your comment over and if ask yourself if it's really worth anybody's time. There might be a point in there that could emerge with some refinement, but if it's in the thread already, a simple upvote will do.
[–]Biologos101 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago
I have not seen anyone defending this guy just demanding justice.
[–]CurseWord -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago
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