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STOP RESISTING! (xpost from r/wtf) (imgur.com)

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[–]Karunamon[S] 55 points56 points ago

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Context:

Guy had earlier assaulted some of the cops involved (Not that it excuses this kind of behavior!). The cops were later fired but reinstated after some time passed.

[–]TheRealPariah 43 points44 points ago

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The cops were later fired but reinstated after some time passed

It's so funny how that always ends up happening. A tiny amount of show when the outrage is boiling and then quietly make sure no one is ever held accountable when the outrage subsides. The officers were reinstated with back back pay.

This is years old, btw.

[–]EH1987 7 points8 points ago

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They're nothing but thugs if they can't remain professional.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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can i see some sources?

[–]what_how 5 points6 points ago*

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Context is everything.

Obviously, no excuse for beating the shit out of a guy who has already been thrown out of a rolling car, but if he assaulted some of the guys involved, and proceeded to drive like a maniac, I can understand some anger.

Again, not excusing, but context, guys.

-Edit- Just to be clear, I think the cops beating the shit out of the guy is fucking awful. I just meant that comments like 'These men ought to all face the firing squad' are more than a little harsh.

-Edit 2- I also agree with the comment that the police force should leave emotion at the door. Unfortunately we're all human, and we can all make awful decisions. This is absolutely one of those.

[–]keepthepace 33 points34 points ago

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Context is everything.

Context is nothing. If you can't act without anger, you are not entitled to a police job.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points ago

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Cops are supposed to be above emotions and act in lawful manner and treat people with justice. Rather than behave like power mad assholes...

[–]keepthepace 3 points4 points ago

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I also agree with the comment that the police force should leave emotion at the door. Unfortunately we're all human, and we can all make awful decisions. This is absolutely one of those.

In this video, I see a group of humans, all doing incredibly bad decisions given their job. This shows the failure of these specific policemen but also of the person who put them together or who hired them. It is a system failure.

We are all human but give me a break. People with nerve do exist, people who are capable of enough control on their emotions to not beat the hell out of a wounded human are legion.

It is their damn job that they all completly failed to do correctly.

[–]what_how 2 points3 points ago

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Absolutely. All of them should have been fired and not reinstated. Ever. In fact, it should probably be on some kind of record for future job applications.

They should also be charged on grounds of assault/ police brutality. Mob mentality doesn't excuse the actions of every individual who beat the shit out of a guy who just got thrown from a rolling car.

[–]Xanthu 5 points6 points ago

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Cross-comment

It's a base instinct, probably an American thing*. Cops and military have a big "you come after one of us, you come after all of us" view, often calling themselves brotherhoods(not racist(this time)) and the like.

And it's being unable to control tempers/emotions when having JUST seen your brother nearly get killed. For the minute or so after you have no other intent than "I'm gonna get that motherfucker".

Few days ago was an AMA with a guy stabbed in the neck. His buddy jumped in his car and would have run down the attacker if it weren't for police intervention.

That all being said these cops were out of line and deserved to be fired. This is where I'm a self-righteous prick and point out this was over a weed bust. Whole event could and SHOULD have been an avoidable situation. Police are held to a higher standard, simply getting fired should only be the beginning, but sadly we all know it's the end.

*The comment before was asking if this was "an American thing."

[–]what_how 5 points6 points ago

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More like this! Unfortunately, the American mentality has been migrating all over the world. The London Met are particularly bad about this and actually refer to themselves as a gang.

"You may think you belong to a big gang, you may be 50 people, even 100, but we have 32,000 in our gang. It's called the Metropolitan police."

-Chief Inspector Ian Kibblewhite

[–]lolol42 3 points4 points ago

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I think he was just trying to use clever wordplay, not insinuating that they're an actual gang. I don't like police entitlement either, but you have to be levelheaded here

[–]brainburger 2 points3 points ago

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Cops should pride themselves on their ability to stay cool and professional when shit like that happens. I understand why they might fail on occasion, but it is still a failure.

[–]US_Ranger -1 points0 points ago

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Not sure why you're being downvoted for this comment. This place seems to be the r/politics (read: zero rationality) section that involves anything police officer.

Just a few minutes before this gif was made, he tried to run over a police officer. If I'm correct, I believe he broke both legs of the officer as he dove out of the way. Does that excuse this type of behavior? No, but I'd sure as shit be pissed off too if I was a police officer and just watched one of my friends get hit by a fleeing maniac.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfx7TEuqHEA

Watch right around 50 seconds.

[–]Karunamon[S] 11 points12 points ago

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Not sure why you're being downvoted for this comment.

Because he's making excuses for reprehensible behavior.

Let me be perfectly clear here:

There is no excuse for this. There are no mitigating circumstances for this There is nothing else to take into account

They pummeled an unconscious guy who was thrown from a vehicle.

You don't fucking do that. Ever. There is absolutely no valid reason.

[–]servohahn 5 points6 points ago

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Of course they're angry. The gif doesn't show a lot of cops singing kum ba yah and holding hands. We're angry because they beat the shit out of someone who couldn't even "resist" by putting up his hands in a defensive posture. And we're also angry because none of them were charged. The rest of us would go to jail for that kind of shit. In many states you can be charged with attempted murder for beating someone in the head while they're on the ground (much less unconscious).

I really wish the law said "If the guy is a douchebag and you're really mad, it's totally cool to beat the piss out of him." I can think of a dozen dudes right now who I could get away with beating half to death.

[–]TechnoL33T 2 points3 points ago

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He's being downvoted because he pretty much just copied what the guy above him said.

[–]what_how 3 points4 points ago

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It's fine! I was expecting to be downvoted. In the subreddit called Bad_Cop_No_Donut, it's not very popular to even suggest that police brutality is understandable. But thank you for even more information on the subject!

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points ago

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Did the cop honestly think he could stop the van with his body? What was he doing in the middle of the road?

Also, fuck cops.

[–]US_Ranger 1 point2 points ago

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He was throwing a spike strip.

[–]roland333 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, the van veered to hit him.

[–]roland333 -2 points-1 points ago

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Uhh, not exactly. He veered to hit an officer driving at a high rate of speed. I don't remember what happened to the cop he hit, but it looked absolutely brutal. heres the video

What the officers did was brutal, wrong and uncalled for, but theres less than 47 seconds between their fellow officer getting "assaulted" with a car and the short clip you chose to post here with a misleading "context".

Shame on you.

[–]Karunamon[S] 1 point2 points ago

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What the officers did was brutal, wrong and uncalled for, but theres less than 47 seconds between their fellow officer getting "assaulted" with a car and the short clip you chose to post here with a misleading "context".

What the hell is misleading about what I posted? Is their reaction understandable? Excusable? Anything? No it is not. There is not a valid sequence of events in any universe, real or imagined, which should lead to what happened in that video. End of discussion.

[–]roland333 -4 points-3 points ago

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You said he assaulted an officer. Its attempted homicide. Facts are facts and you didn't present the facts.

You lied.

?

And their reaction is understandable. How would you feel if someone driving a 4000 or so pound machine tried to kill someone you cared about and nearly succeeded? They were right behind the suspect, they saw him hit the officer laying the road spikes. They sped by and could have had no idea whether he was alive or dead.

Did you even watch the video?

Fuck you.

[–]J973 0 points1 point ago

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Even if the guy had killed the Officer, it would not be an EXCUSE for the officers to gang jump a fucking person that was thrown from a vehicle at a high rate of speed and was clearly injured and unconscious. They are fucking animals and shouldn't just have "temporarily lost their jobs". They should be in prison. They are fucking thugs with badges and police should all be held to the same criminal litigation and imprisonment as the rest of society. They should not be above the law.

A lot of "officers" in the United States should be in prison.

[–]roland333 0 points1 point ago

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Yes, it would be just that, an excuse. It would also be a reason. What it would not be is justified or legal. Therefore, they should be in prison.

Fucking language, how does it work?

By the way, you and I are also fucking animals.

[–]J973 0 points1 point ago

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We are fucking animals, but if "we" did that after our friend got hit by a car, "we" wouldn't be reprimanded. "We" would likely be in prison. I don't think that police should be held to different accountability than the public they are hired by to "protect". It shouldn't be a free pass to assault and murder people.

[–]roland333 0 points1 point ago

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Where has anyone argued they should be held to a different standard. Are you familiar with the term red herring argument? You're employing it here, subconsciously I suspect. Its understandable. Its frightening to think about cops.

I hate how placid our society has become. People see stuff far worse than this happen with and just stand there because one of the humans is wearing a uniform, badge and gun. And really, I can't say i'd do any different. Getting shot or put in jail unjustly for intervening to do justice is really scary

[–]Karunamon[S] 0 points1 point ago

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You said he assaulted an officer. Its attempted homicide. Facts are facts and you didn't present the facts.

Actually, I got this summary from the original post in r/WTF, I didn't know about the guy running one of them down.

Does that make it any more acceptable? No it does not.

You lied.

Pretty sure you don't know the definition of "lie".

And their reaction is understandable.

Fuck you.

Right back at you, you pig-defending asshole.

[–]roland333 -1 points0 points ago*

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If your best friend got hit by someone and you saw it happen, chased him and the same circumstances arose you in no universe real or imagined would beat his unconscious body? Well alright, fine, but you can't at least understand that reaction? Alright, well I grant that point.

I fucking hate cops But that doesn't mean I let their bullshit affect my judgement and behavior. Don't blame someone else, you posted something with a lie in it, that now probably a lot of stupid credulous people now believe to be a fact. Assault is a far lesser offence than attempted vehicular homicide. If they had just seem him assault someone and reacted that way, i'd be fucking right pissed off. But thats not what happened.

You're wrong, man up and admit it.

edit-I shouldn't be slinging insults around. I'm advocating dispassion and behaving in the exact opposite manner.

[–]Karunamon[S] 0 points1 point ago

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. If your best friend got hit by someone and you saw it happen, chased him and the same circumstances arose you in no universe real or imagined would beat his unconscious body? Well alright, fine, but you can't at least understand that reaction? Alright, well I grant that point.

I'm getting mixed messages from you. First you call me an irrational child, then you acknowledge my points as correct, then you call me wrong a few sentences later.

What the shit, bro?

In any case, let me spell it out for you: THESE PEOPLE ARE PAID TO BE PROFESSIONAL, NOT THUGS.

That includes not ganging up and beating up some guy who was just thrown from a fucking car. Even if he just got done raping and killing the cop's mother, it's still not acceptable.

At the very least, every single officer involved should have never canned and never rehired as they are incapable of controlling their impulses. In a just world, they would have been brought up on attempted murder charges. (Or can you think of a more fitting charge for punching, kicking, and beating a crash victim?)

[–]roland333 0 points1 point ago

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i granted the first point to you to emphasize the second point which you completely ignored. I disagreed with you on both points actually and I don't understand how you took it any other way.

Here's what it looks like when someone agrees with you:

At the very least, every single officer involved should have never canned and never rehired as they are incapable of controlling their impulses.

I agree.

[–]Karunamon[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Fair 'nough, my bad. I just misunderstood the way you wrote that.

[–]Dentronic 9 points10 points ago

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He's dead, Jim.

[–]troller10 17 points18 points ago

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They are just like dogs.

[–]Subjugator99 18 points19 points ago

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my dog behaves better, and is probably better trained.

[–]troller10 13 points14 points ago

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I didn't mean to disrespect your dog. My apologies.

[–]konquererz 4 points5 points ago

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I get the context of the beating. I get it, I do. However, these people have guns, tazers, and batons. They have authority and power over people. It is illegal to resist even if they are wronging you or on the verge of killing you.

I don't give a fuck whether you have human emotions. We all do. But you have authority, power, and control. When you lose it, it is infinitely worse than when someone on the street loses it. Inability to control yourself in the face of emotion is a big problem with cops. They should have been fired and never let back.

But that didn't happen. They were allowed back. And any apologetic for these cops became invalid upon inspection of the weapons and authority they wield compared the the victim here.

[–]retrobuddha 5 points6 points ago

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still sad every time i see this

[–]CrudOMatic 5 points6 points ago

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When a cop tells you to stop resisting, they are just looking for a reason to kick your ass.

[–]heygeneparmesan 9 points10 points ago

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What disturbs me is that this is far from the first time I've seen this kind of footage, where cops all pile on a suspect after a car chase...

[–]UltraMegaMegaMan 9 points10 points ago

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You always get beaten after a car chase. No exceptions.

It's a cop rule, like ''you can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride''. If you make them chase you or piss them off then you get your ass whipped before you go to jail.

[–]DanTallTrees 2 points3 points ago

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did this guy survive?

[–]R00ster7431 2 points3 points ago

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Its getting to the point that when I leave the house I fear getting mugged or murdered less and less and fear being pulled over by the police more and more.

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[–]Major_Ocelot 0 points1 point ago*

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Your dad saw your dildo?

edit ... A 12 year old retard grabbed your vagina?

[–]keith_weaver -1 points0 points ago

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Were you the person that took the actual video? No? Oh, were you so honored to repost somebody else's post?

[–]omnom_chompsky 7 points8 points ago

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These men ought to all face the firing squad.

[–]keith_weaver 0 points1 point ago

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I realize adrenaline and all that and I have no idea of the back story in regard to the guy being chased, but when a suspect is in custody, (being unconscious on the ground qualifies as being in custody imho), then it's over. The beating this guy took was uncalled for to say the least.

Locally, an officer I went to high school with was in a similar situation. A complete scumbag, that ironically also went to our school at the same time, was down and fully contained. Other cops were still delivering a ferocious beating while my acquaintance stood by. He wasn't involved in the beating, but did not stop it either. I ran into him recently and asked him about why he didn't step in. More or less his answer was, there is so much pressure from the whole 'thin blue line' crap, that even when 'a brother' comes off the rails, you let him do his thing. It's better to go through the public disgrace than what you would get from inside the station.

[–]kindoflikeelliot -3 points-2 points ago

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someone give those men a pay raise

[–]sum_dude -2 points-1 points ago

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beating a dead horse

[–]roland333 -2 points-1 points ago

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I submit that this post should be deleted as it is extremely misleading and taken out of context.

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