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[–]psychotronofdeth 30 points31 points ago

Any competitive CS player doesn't give a shit about awps.

[–]cire123 6 points7 points ago

Can't upvote this enough... I never understood why people see the awp as an overpowered weapon.

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[–]CaptainSMASH 0 points1 point ago

If you're good at the game it's not hard to pubstomp with a rifle when others are awping.

[–]Waphlez 0 points1 point ago

This. The way the game plays is very dependent on team size, and how well people communicate. While scrimming 10 mans or playing actual matches it's fine, it's an expensive weapon and the other team can communicate your position. But if you're in a 24+ server, you do have a leg up on other people since the AWP excels in chaotic games, especially if it's a server that hands out money to the players, which ruins weapon balance (as the weapons in CS have always been balanced by their purchase price, generally).

As a long time CS player you get used to it, but I never really liked the AWP/sniper mechanics in CS (heresy, I know), just in the way you handled it (the auto-loading weapon switch trick, the jumping and stopping with the scope accuracy), never really was my thing at least in pubs (competative games are a whole different discussion). When I snipped I generally used the scout because it was cheaper, you ran fast with it, and it's fun headshotting AWP users who just spent 6.8k on their loadout.

[–]thepowerisyours 0 points1 point ago

Smoke Grenades my friend.

[–]plutPWNium 0 points1 point ago

I just hate how damage isn't localized. At least I don't notice if it is(I have never survived an awpshot, even if shot in the foot or hand).

[–]cire123 5 points6 points ago

Leg shots do 84 damage and shots through walls do like 46-55 damage unless its in the head if I recall correctly.

[–]plutPWNium 2 points3 points ago

Maybe I always just had low health...

[–]Vzylexy 1 point2 points ago

Pre...What was it, 1.3? AWP shots used to one shot kill no matter where you hit the person.

[–]plutPWNium 2 points3 points ago

Fuckin' awps How do they work

[–]JesusTapdancingChris 1 point2 points ago

I believe that in the 0.66 beta (first version I seem to recall playing), you didn't even need to stand still. Running at full speed + zoom with full accuracy = endless fun.

[–]sdk2g 0 points1 point ago

It's only because the Scout exists. If they just ditched the Scout you wouldn't hear anything about the AWP. Hell you can't even quickscope like you could in 1.6 and people still complain about the fucking thing.

[–]dtza 1 point2 points ago

Pub CS? AWP entire team of newbies as they run through double doors.

Competitive CS? Miss your shot while defending de_dust 2 A, signaling to the enemy that there is an AWP at A, which prompts the enemy team to fake long A as they mercilessly murder you from catwalks.

In Competitive CS, it's more of a support tool (locking down areas), but you sometimes see clutch 1v5 plays from good AWPers.

[–]K0LT 13 points14 points ago

The AK is by far the best weapon in the game :D

[–]iBird 2 points3 points ago

dat spray

[–]K0LT 4 points5 points ago

dat 1 tap

[–]iBird 1 point2 points ago

In all seriousness. I have loved the Ak-47 since day one of my cs days back in middle school. That rifle is amazing.

[–]CHERRYY 3 points4 points ago

If you really think AWPing doesn't take any skill, I suggest you watch these educational videos:

1.6 players: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSF06wct5gs

Source players: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggut5Ei5oEM

If you still think the AWP takes no skill, please uninstall the game.

Sincerely, the competitive CS community

[–]Michichael 9 points10 points ago

Two things of note: Online matches? Awps - no skill, no problem thanks to hit compensation.

LAN matches? I took down 10 awpers with an UMP.

[–]throwmeaway76 6 points7 points ago

Why would you buy a UMP? Just, why? If you want it to be humiliating, buy a MAC10. If you want it to be decent, just buy an MP5. But a UMP? That's just bland shit.

[–]Michichael 4 points5 points ago

CT on Office, felt like humiliating them. And the UMP is fucking BRUTAL on dumbasses that didn't buy helmet armor so they could afford the awp. ;)

[–]Proc31 10 points11 points ago

Buy a Mac10 and run around the map only strafing screaming down your microphone "Drive by mother fuckers!" Then you have humiliated them.

[–]sdk2g 0 points1 point ago

Thanks for the tip pubstar.

[–]lolburger69 0 points1 point ago

Helmet armour, for when your helmet needs protection!

[–]joevaded -1 points0 points ago

Awp is awp online or offline. It takes skill regardlss of hitboxes, compensation or not.

[–]Michichael 2 points3 points ago

No, it really doesn't. Online, sniper rounds get compensated to the body very often, especially on limb shots on a moving target. offline, the shot goes where your crosshairs were - the compensation is <1ms vs 100-500ms of comp online.

Take a look here - this shows you how big a difference hitboxes make. Red is what I saw and was shooting at - blue is where the server realized the person was, and compensated my actual hit. The displacement is massive on online servers.

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[–]Ejvind 0 points1 point ago

It makes complete sense in that context.

[–]Time_and_a_half 1 point2 points ago

AWPHAXFAG!

[–]Jaziek 4 points5 points ago

The AWP is not overpowered, and if you think it is, then you're bad, and don't understand the game. Simple as.

[–]NoMelonsNoUpvote 4 points5 points ago

IF YOUR OPINION IS DIFFERENT FROM MINE THEN FUCK YOU.

FTFY

[–]Ridesabike 0 points1 point ago

Get shot in the leg; die instantly.

[–]temp12345999 8 points9 points ago

84 damage

[–]Jaziek 5 points6 points ago

Getting legged doesn't kill you in one shot.

[–]elijahsnow 7 points8 points ago

well yeah it most certainly does but it takes several minutes for you to bleed out from your femoral artery. It would have to be above the knee as far as I know.

[–]JesusTapdancingChris 0 points1 point ago

Wouldn't something like this rifle basically blow your leg off, though? It is pretty big...

[–]elijahsnow 0 points1 point ago

pretty much. Apparently the bullet doesn't even touch you. The shockwave alone shreds your appendage off. It depends on how central the impact is. There are three divisions of the femoral artery, if you hit all three then you're probably a goner no matter what aid can get to you. Anything short of being on the table and having clamps ready would probably be insufficient to save your life. Below the knee though and you could probably stop the bleeding with a bandanna and a belt. Loss of about 2-3 pints of blood.

[–]JesusTapdancingChris 0 points1 point ago

Except, odds are that one does not think about bandannas and belts when one's leg ends at the knee... I'd assume all but the best would go into shock at that and just bleed out.

[–]Vzylexy 0 points1 point ago

Leg shots haven't killed in years.

[–]Nik3 -2 points-1 points ago

From competitive Cs players perspective, i find these comments stupid

[–]Matt1965 1 point2 points ago

Explain?

[–]danbearpig 0 points1 point ago

Unless the AWPer is truly hitting everything it's pretty easy to take down an AWPer. If he's just rolling with every shot a la pre-steam ksharp, then you're pretty much out of luck.

[–]ThisOpenFist 1 point2 points ago

I had a guy on a cs_office server one-shot me through two walls with an AWP. He never even saw me.

[–]awkook 3 points4 points ago

could have just been spamming you through a common spam spot

[–]ThisOpenFist 1 point2 points ago

I have no idea. Nobody on the server had a serious explanation for me.

[–]awkook 0 points1 point ago

thats all I can think of, but there are still a lot of cheaters in this game

[–]temp12345999 1 point2 points ago

If you are on a office server, most hackers are just experienced wall spammers

[–]mktang 0 points1 point ago

Oh the awp is B... Alright go zerg that shit

[–]TalkativeTree 0 points1 point ago

Just got drunk? Hops.

[–]deVces 0 points1 point ago*

"1 Deags"

Cs1.6 1 deags were satisfying

or even the occasional 3 1 deags in a match to get an eco round

[–]CaptainRumBucket 0 points1 point ago

When I was in middle school, I was totally that kid that started screaming HACKER!!!!!1111!!11111one!! when I got one shotted.

I'm so sorry.

[–]canadaNOTdry 0 points1 point ago

One-shotted isn't getting hit with an AWP. It was more of one shotting from the other guns mostly ak,deagle,m4.

[–]counter-strike -5 points-4 points ago

With whatever servers are left that still haven't disabled AWP's.

[–]cecilfieldersstomach 5 points6 points ago

AWPs don't bother me, but the Autosniper rifle is terrible.

[–]Vyr -2 points-1 points ago

Orp

[–]_liminal 0 points1 point ago

Not sure if awp, or real pro with AK-47

frysquint.jpg

[–]plutPWNium 0 points1 point ago

LOL

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[–]ThisOpenFist 1 point2 points ago

I can't handle the auto-shotgun for the life of me. I need the pump.

[–]PointAndClick -3 points-2 points ago*

Counter-strike isn't counterstrike when you take out the awp. Like chess needs the Queen, cs needs an awp. It enables for instance the need for precision over long range with the other weapons. You have to be quick and smart to outplay an awp and many people that mix and play higher skilled are that quick or that smart. Just like in chess when you do get a pawn on the other side, you are not going to change it into a tower. You change it to a Queen. So, when you save money and saving money might cost you a round or two, you buy an awp.

Granted, for a public server, disallowing the awp creates a more balanced playing field for players of different skill levels. Publics are not about team play, even though that does occur from time to time (highly enjoayable, I must say), publics are supposed to be fun for everyone. This means also for the people who aren't able to outplay an awper. It just makes the game more relaxed, less competitive. Which is only fair because most public players are blocking team-attacking team-flashing idiots who stand in your way half of the time anyway. Trying to be good is futile, nobody calls, you get anally raped all the time, nobody can hold a position. And when you wait until most of the idiots are dead and gone, you are going to be called a camper. Well fuck you, I was unable to move from here because of laughing my ass off how you are a complete failure.

This is why I like to play publics where there is the awp available. Separates the men from the boys.