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He did a speech (ratemyfunnypictures.com)
submitted 8 months ago by bornagainredditor
[–]Brashdoodle 25 points26 points27 points 8 months ago
Speech Bilbo! Speech!
[–]myrpou 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago
I have a Ri...a Dream. Yeah that'll do.
[–]flamingspinach_ 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Alas, eleven years is far too short a time. I don't know half of you. And I like less than half of you.
[–]Xervicx 59 points60 points61 points 8 months ago
I was about to rage. SO HARD. Then I remembered: "Oh wait, I'm not surprised by any of this" Then I decided to rant.
Reality is that most black people that I've seen in high schools (not blacks as a whole, just ones I have experienced personally) have little idea about what King did, or even any parts of his speech. They don't know why he died, or what impact it had on the nation. They don't know that he was a peaceful man, who would have never wanted compensation for the past, and wanted equality, not the constant self-degrading manner at which people hold themselves. He wouldn't have wanted the "being racist while still making the other person look racist" routine, he would have wanted everyone to be civil, have a good education, and see each other without skintone.
Instead we have a black culture where people beat each other up and alienate each other based on how light or dark their skin is. True story, my ex had almost no friends in school because of how light her skin was.
I'm white, care nothing about slavery or the history of it, and I know more about Martin Luther King and care more about him than most of these people who pretend to know or care about slavery.
[–]jasmaree 20 points21 points22 points 8 months ago*
True story, my ex had almost no friends in school because of how light her skin was.
That's funny because usually it's the opposite. Dark skinned women, especially those without "good hair," are shunned. My mom said that her father used to call her "blackola" and received none of the benefits her light-skinned sister got.
Now, if your ex is a guy, then it fits a bit better. Light skinned guys are usually thought to be "soft" and sensitive, which brings a lot of bullying.
So while I agree with your thoughts on how black people perceive color, I don't think your notions about their knowledge of MLK are right. Like mocotazo, I went to a series of nearly completely black public schools (and now I attend an HBCU), and hardly anyone leaves without having to do quite a bit of research on King specifically.
[–]mocotazo 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago
I went to a series of nearly completely black public schools (and now I attend an HBCU)
Howard U?
[–]jasmaree 5 points6 points7 points 8 months ago
Yep, how'd you guess?
[–]mocotazo 6 points7 points8 points 8 months ago
Narrowed it down if you didn't live in the South (my friends go to Southern and Xavier, mostly). Not Spelman, Grambling or FAMU so I figured Howard. I'll concede that there's generally a difference between who the appearance of women that pledge AKA versus Delta or Zeta, though, School Daze was fairly accurate in that respect. But I've never seen it as a huge thing in the community in general.
[–]jasmaree 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago
You're a regular Sherlock Holmes. Can you tell me what I ate for breakfast?
[–]Weakgrip 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago
There is a joke here, a very obvious one, but I will refrain.
[–]pizzaparty182 6 points7 points8 points 8 months ago
two waffles and a pancake
[–]amazinnn 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Watermelon, you idiot!
[–]donnerpartyof1 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago
This isn't strictly true. Some Black communities, families or social circles consider darker skin more attractive, and may look down on light-skinned African Africans (especially those of mixed race) for their ability to "pass" as white. Also, of course, many black communities couldn't care less about the shade of someone's skin.
[–]yearz 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago
In my high school black kids who spoke articulately were mocked and took shit for "talking white"
[–]Xervicx 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
That is also something I have seen in high schools, and my ex also was ridiculed for. It's a shame that some people are like that.
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[–]justcurious22 14 points15 points16 points 8 months ago
you seem to be making assumptions about Black people based on a handful that you've met
Uh...yeah. That's what he said.
not blacks as a whole, just ones I have experienced personally
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[–]Blue_mad_bro 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago
Why are you being so sensitive? The reason he put in the "not blacks as a whole" was so that people like you wouldn't get all up in arms.
[–]ScubaxSquag -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
What do you mean, you people? How dare you, you're nothing but a blue mad bro! SMURF!
[–]Blue_mad_bro 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
I never said you people, I said people like you.
[–]ScubaxSquag 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
Lol was messing with you. I too, hate it when people talk that way.
[–]kittenkat4u 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
knowing she is in 6th grade made me feel a better. she looked a lot older than that to me(but i need glasses so there ya go). my brain couldn't compute cause it seemed to me that of everybody out there black people(especially older ones) would know the most about MLK.
[–]mocotazo 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
The irony of this whole submission is that by the end of the school day, the girl knew who MLK was and what he did. It's just easier to poke fun at a grade school student for not knowing history that she hasn't been taught in school yet.
[–]ne99ne 8 points9 points10 points 8 months ago
Capitalizing "black"? I understand why, but really, the seventies are over.
[–]Hydris 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
Good thing you read the whole part where he said he's not saying the entire population are like that but his own personal experiences.
[–]crotch_jenkins -12 points-11 points-10 points 8 months ago
Downvoted because you're an idiot.
[–]Snow_Cub 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
He was also a known womanizer and cheated on his wife on a regular basis.
He wasn't a saint, just a very powerful public speaker with an ideal (mostly for men.)
[–]babacristo 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
also, on the idea that MLK didn't want compensation for the past, and just wanted equality:
"Whenever the issue of compensatory treatment for the Negro is raised, some of our friends recoil in horror. The Negro should be granted equality, they agree, but he should ask nothing more. On the surface, this appears reasonable, but it is not realistic." -- 1964, Why We Can't Wait.
most people who say things like, "I know more about MLK and care more about him than blah blah blah" really don't know very much about him at all...
[–]trustyrombone79 -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
I'm white, care nothing about slavery or the history of it
And yet you would expect more from others? Bullshit. It doesn't matter what color ones skin is, we should all seek to learn the lessons of our collective past.
[–]wantonballbag -5 points-4 points-3 points 8 months ago
Reality is that most black people...
At that point I was waiting for the thinly veiled racist rant. I was not disappointed. Ahhhh Reddit.
You forgot the "that I've seen part" Which indicates that I am mentioning black people that I have seen for myself, while also indicating that I do not believe it fair to apply this to black people as a whole.
[–]wantonballbag -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
I do not believe it fair to apply this to black people as a whole
Then why use the term "black people" at all?
[–]Xervicx 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
If I said "people" that would have no relevance to the topic, now would it?
I mean take this example. I walk into a group of people talking about how bad fast food restaurants can be. I say "a lot of fast food places in my area are just dirty" and you, of course, would assume that I meant ALL fast food places are dirty. When I would deny it, you would mention "Well why use the term 'fast food' at all?" If I were to follow your advice, there would be no point in my talking about restaurants at all, now would there?
You are rather terrible at taking things out of context, because all someone has to do is scan a line or two upwards and they see where you were being an idiot. Either you are trolling, or you are not that intelligent.
[–]wantonballbag -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago*
If I said "people" that would have no relevance to the topic
Indeed. It wouldn't have. Your point also has no relevance beyond your own race related bitterness.
I mean take this example...
I'm sure a lot of places in your area are dirty. I doubt it has little to do with the fact that they are fast food restaurants. It's could be because they're setup in a run down area and are run by people that don't care about hygiene, not because they sell fast food. Can you understand that?
I doubt many kids her age have much idea who king was, regardless of the colour of their skin. It's got nothing to do with the fact that she is black.
Here would be the accurate, none racist version of what you said;
Reality is that most people that I've seen in high schools (not people as a whole, just ones I have experienced personally) have little idea about what King did, or even any parts of his speech. They don't know why he died, or what impact it had on the nation. They don't know that he was a peaceful man, who would have never wanted compensation for the past, and wanted equality, not the constant self-degrading manner at which people hold themselves. He wouldn't have wanted the "being racist while still making the other person look racist" routine, he would have wanted everyone to be civil, have a good education, and see each other without skintone.
[–]FappingAsYouReadThis 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Your point also has no relevance beyond your own race related bitterness.
His point was that, although you'd imagine a black person in particular to be educated on issues regarding their race, this is not the case. Pointing that out is not "racist", but there are always those who perceive racism in everything...
[–]wantonballbag 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
you'd imagine a black person in particular to be educated on issues regarding their race
Honestly these days I don't expect your average American to be educated on anything. I also don't expect anyone to be an expert on race related culture due to the colour of their skin.
Assuming you're white, how much do you know about the atrocities of the klu klux klan? And do you know that specifically because you're white? Or just because you had the same education as everybody else?
[–]FappingAsYouReadThis -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
Honestly these days I don't expect your average American to be educated on anything.
Wow, hatred for "this" generation and a remark calling Americans uneducated, all in one comment? This is /r/circlejerk material for sure.
I also don't expect anyone to be an expert on race related culture due to the colour of their skin.
I don't either. But if widespread racial discrimination happened toward a certain person's race in recent history, it wouldn't be some crazy, far-off thing to assume their parents educated them about it.
Let me put it this way: I'm a musician. My father is a musician. As such, he periodically teaches me things related to music.
So, it wouldn't be far-off to say: That person is black, their parents are black, so perhaps their parents teach about black history.
That person was saying that, in his experience, that's not the case anyway. So quit being so sensitive and saying everything related to race is "racist". People like you throw around that word so much it loses meaning.
First off, again yes that DOES mean that fast food restaurants in MY area specifically are dirty, that was the whole point of my example. And yes, again, that DOES mean that I was not mentioning restaurants as a whole or fast food restaurants as a whole, ONLY mentioning that the specific fast food joints in my area were dirty.
That being said, you clearly missed my point.
If I had said what you just said, that would have been inaccurate. Guess what? I know my area better than you do. In MY AREA, black teenagers that -I- have SEEN are less knowledgeable about slavery or Martin Luther King than most other people of other races that -I- have SEEN.
And, just in case your severe lack of intellect didn't get the point of what I JUST stated yet again... THAT MEANS THAT I DO NOT HAVE THE SAME VIEW FOR BLACK PEOPLE AS A WHOLE, JUST BLACK PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE AREA THAT I SPECIFICALLY HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO VIEW AND EXPERIENCE FOR MYSELF.
Did you see it that time, you ignorant fool? I'm speaking about personally obtained statistics, not racist ranting or "he said, she said" nonsense. So stop acting like I said anything remotely racist.
I mean geez, if I said "most Hispanic people in my area that I've seen tend to date other Hispanics" that would NOT be racist. It would be me taking note of something that actually exists, not some random racist statements about groups of people.
It seems like a person with your inability to process statements in an intellectual manner would also think that national studies that show different racial groups having different statistics would also be racist. Most presidents have been white. Is that racist towards or against white people or any other race? Of course not, but by your logic, I'm burning the names of every non-white person in America. Unless I hate politics, then I'm destroying respect for every white person in the USA.
TL;DR: You, sir or madam, are an idiot, since you want to attack me for being a racist, when in fact it is you who is seeing racism everywhere in my statements. That, in fact, is more racist than any interpreted racism that could possibly be found in my words.
Well this made me chuckle. Thanks. Subbed to /r/ShitRedditSays.
[–]babacristo -7 points-6 points-5 points 8 months ago
love it when white people try to explain "black culture".
[–]Hydris 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago
Your statement is just as racist as you claim his would be. Didn't read his but to claim white people are incapable of knowing about any culture that isn't white is stupid.
[–]babacristo -9 points-8 points-7 points 8 months ago
where exactly did i claim that white people are incapable of knowing about other cultures? i didn't. i was only making the point that most white people have no idea what black culture or what the black experience is, and when they talk about "black culture", it's incredibly obvious. there's a word for this: white privilege. white privilege has nothing to do with white people intrinsically-- it has to do with being part of a dominant majority culture, it's corresponding repression of others, and how all of that subtly effects subconscious concepts of identity. white people are perfectly capable of learning about the black experience-- it's just that most won't because they don't actually have to.
it's so fucking funny though how white people like to equate any negative talk of white people to actual, historical, disparaging, systemic racism.
[–]captainpixystick 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago
Oh shut the fuck up. I don't even want to give you credibility by responding to your pseudo intelligence. Fuck off, racist asshole.
[–]babacristo -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago
explain to me how you refusing to acknowledge the proven effects of living in a racist society somehow refutes my credibility. white people in america are on the whole less able to recognize racism than minorities, that's a fact. and when this is hinted at, even in the most light-hearted way, white people become so damn offended... it's just absurd when you take into account the history of race relations.
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http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/71058_196060176896_8284477_n.jpg
[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 months ago
I'm white
Stop right there, asshole. The whole point of your comment was to point out how much better your privileged white knowledge is than those ignorant black people you know?
Guess what: the educational system in the US is honestly and totally fucked. It gets exponentially worse for minority-rich areas that also magically happen to be lower-income regions. On top of that, high school students are very often hormonal, ADD, miserable, and distracted.
Making some self-important rant, as a white person, about how stupid the black people you know are, who you refer to as "these people," is just gross. Maybe the fact that you're in a privileged position to not care or know about slavery is somehow related to the fact that you've also been given a better education?
Ignorant douchebag.
I went to an 85% black high school. Though I was IB, I sat in on a regular journalism class. The kids in the class cut up the whole time, called the teacher "bitch," and told her to shut the fuck up whenever she tried to restore order. I really don't want to hear how the education system is letting these kids down. Just my experience.
[–]baumkramer -7 points-6 points-5 points 8 months ago
Don't worry, it's obviously photoshopped.
[–]andbruno 7 points8 points9 points 8 months ago
I remember when MLK and Lincoln had that great joint speech at the House of Commons in the Whitehouse in Canada in 1422. It was a historic day.
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 8 months ago
asking young and uneducated as of yet people questions like this just makes the "journalist" look inane. Why not ask a kid of 14 what he thought of Kissinger?
It's just absurd to seek wisdom from youth. IT AIN"T THERE. Shit, it's barely there in most adults.
[–]parrotkeet 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago
I got asked to answer some questions once by a school journalist when I was maybe 13. Just sat there shrugging as they asked me about genetic modification
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
I can only imagine your look of "wtf" as each query was lobbed at you.
To be fair, I remember having black history and MLK being crammed into our school year as early as third grade. Maybe earlier but I cant say for certian as i have no memory of it.
Tell me and I will forget. Show me and I might remember. Involve me and I will understand.
[–]Herp_in_my_Derp -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago
Im 14 and although I still dont know alot about MLK I know why he is important and what he did, thinking he freed the slaves is down right retarded. Then again i spent my childhood watching the history and discovery channel, before they went to shit with all that reality tv stuff.
[–]mocotazo 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
The girl they quoted is 12, and that was before the teacher gave a lesson on MLK. After the class, she might know more about Martin Luther King than you do today. It's not like everyone gets a lesson about MLK from their parents or teachers by the time they're nine, let alone comprehend why he was assassinated.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago
lol, no kidding.
My point was that it is silly to expect wisdom from someone who hasn't had enough years to collect any. Further to that was my point about even though some people have the years, they still don't have the wisdom, but with kids it's a given.
Ignorance of a subject =/= stupid. This quote was from a sixth grade student right before her class was taught who MLK was.
[–]DookieDemon 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
I had a pretty good idea of basic history from my early grade school years. I remember watching the "Dream" speech probably in 2nd grade. I also knew that slavery happened a loooong time ago, well before video cameras for one thing.
So I think we have a problem here when someone that's a teenager thinks we had slavery in the last 50 years. This is super basic US history that anyone in that grade level should be able to at least extrapolate based on their experience of simply living in the US.
I think the kicker here is that the person in question is black and one would assume that they would pay more attention to such matters. Or that their parents would try to educate them. I am not suggesting her ignorance is race related, not at all, just that if I were black I would have more of a reason to research and appreciate the man.
I don't see this as being an issue about black kids not being as smart or whatever people are getting riled up about here, but the real issue is that as Americans we really suck at learning/extrapolating. We should not be tolerating this kind of ignorance as normal or we are in deep shit.
[–]SniperGX1 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
If the one fact you know about him is his speech it's best to also know the coolest part. The whole part of the speech we remember "I have a dream", and what followed was improvised on the spot and doesn't match at all what the written speech was. Pretty awesome to be remembered for a kick ass speech you just made up on the spot.
[–]rugby4speed 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago
sweet stache!
[–]AlexEmway 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
Martin Luther King Jr. freed the slaves? I need to check up on my history again.
[–]parrotkeet 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
Wow, slavery went on a lot longer than I realised
[–]imgur-mirror-bot 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago
[–]revmitcz 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago
It's pretty clear this clipping is a 'shop. The "I know.." and "He.." words in her first reply are real, the rest is obviously not.
So, keep that in mind before you jump around complaining about "kids these days".
It's real, but it's also a sixth grader.
[–]TripperDay 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
I'd like to see confirmation.
[–]mocotazo 7 points8 points9 points 8 months ago
http://www.chronicleonline.com/content/king-sized-enthusiam-mlk-day
Bright and early, Justin Taylor’s sixth-grade class at Crystal River Middle School entered the classroom eager and ready to learn about a man who changed civil rights in America and broke barriers that led to major changes for blacks in this country. Before playing a couple of videos for the children, Taylor attempted to get a feel for what his students already knew about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. “He gave a speech about freedom,” one student said. “He started a boycott against the buses,” another one stated. After discussing what they already knew, Taylor asked the class what they wanted to learn.
Bright and early, Justin Taylor’s sixth-grade class at Crystal River Middle School entered the classroom eager and ready to learn about a man who changed civil rights in America and broke barriers that led to major changes for blacks in this country. Before playing a couple of videos for the children, Taylor attempted to get a feel for what his students already knew about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
“He gave a speech about freedom,” one student said. “He started a boycott against the buses,” another one stated. After discussing what they already knew, Taylor asked the class what they wanted to learn.
[–]occamsrazorwit 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
Did anyone else notice the trollface?
[–]chaos8803 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
Upvote for the post. Downvote for humanity.
[–]thorizzle117 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
I'm surprised nobody's noticed the first thing she said. . .
"I know he freed the slaves."
really?
[–]bornagainredditor[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Lincoln may disagree
[–]neozeed 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
well his kids have done their best to make sure that she'll never hear his speech, know anything about his movement, or damn near anything about him.
So yeah, basically he free'd the slaves.... of their history.
[–]fecalreign 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
At first I laughed, but then I was really disgusted with US public education. Then I laughed again.
[–]FappingAsYouReadThis 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
but then I was really disgusted with US public education
But it was right before the class was taught about MLK. If it was right after, then yeah, that would be a problem.
While I do agree the education system is largely ineffective, this is not an indicator of that.
[–]fecalreign 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Where does it say that at exactly? When I was that kids age I had been well educated about MLK, at least to the point to know he was a civil rights leader and that he was assasinated. I guess that is part of the joke of the 'shop though. It is well known that the US public school system is flawed.
This link was in some other comment. It gives context to this seemingly wtf situation.
[–]LordOfGummies 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
A white man freed the slaves. As for why King died... someone put hot lead into him.
[–]dirtymoney 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
spinning in his grave
[–]reiverbell -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
i'm white, and i honestly believe i respect what mlk did more than most black people. WTF is wrong here?
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
THAT'S RACIST!
[–]kunnekt 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Come on America, not everybody hates you, I don't, but holy crap!
Come on America
This one student =/= all of America.
[–]tlydon007 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
To be fair, I think the "I Have a Dream" speech is under copyright and is rarely seen by young people.
That's why you seldom see it on television, even on Martin Luther King Day.
[–]imaunitard 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr: First man on the motherfucking moon.
[–]jakemyers7 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Why, did he die? makes more sense
[–]K-BiLLY 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Relevance?
[–]bbq_doritos -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago*
I feel like this chick should come and clean my house and do yard work for me, for free, forever.
Edit: Like Ebenezer Scrooge in Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol, It would teach her the true meaning of MLK
[–]Waffles81 -8 points-7 points-6 points 8 months ago
I could think of some other things she could to for me, for free, forever...
if you catch my drift? wink wink.
: /
[–]NFLdoWORK -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 months ago
two words to explain this. stupid nigger
[–]Lawlosaurus -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 months ago
Niggers be stupid
[–]lebowskisweater -5 points-4 points-3 points 8 months ago
Repost
[–]masterdz522 -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
I don't know how people are so stupid and ignorant. I am 15 in tenth grade with straight a's (not the point) and I'm pretty sure all 1st graders should know who MLK Jr. Is and the difference between him and Abraham Lincoln.
[–]tinyirishgirl -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
So very sad
[–]duglock -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago
Here is one most people don't know. He did not have a doctorate, not a reverand, and is not a junior. More you know.
[–]niggasteve11 -6 points-5 points-4 points 8 months ago
fuck niggers
[–]JohnAbruzzi -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago
Is it just me or does that girl have a mustache?
[–]alexseiji -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago
The core notion of this very post is very racist. Assuming that someone should know something because of they way they are seems like a matter of judgment to me doesn't it?
[–]mahareeshi -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago
they say it don't be like it is, but it do.
[–]sardinesryucky -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago
Dat girl look like she got a mustache
[–]lectricman6002 -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 months ago
MOST black people,THEY don't know,CULTURE where they beat each other up,then MOST OF THESE people, who PRETEND to know. You are the reason why bigotry persists. Stop lumping people in groups by color,height,weight,shoe size.
[–]johnthecow65 -6 points-5 points-4 points 8 months ago
i raged so hard
[–]only_says_oh_god -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 months ago
oh god
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