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[–]sanfranman 73 points74 points ago

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[–]DoubleHappyDog 23 points24 points ago

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Driver, we're done here.

[–]tmb 26 points27 points ago

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[–]UpInThisBitch 3 points4 points ago

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I'm really curious as to what he said that made everyone instantly explode into laughter.

[–]itgoestheotherwaytoo 14 points15 points ago

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...Driver, we're done here.

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points ago

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You're crackheads, children

[–]dabigua 26 points27 points ago

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"Are there no prisons? And the union workhouses - are they still in operation? Let them die, and decrease the surplus population!"

[–]ffunyman 12 points13 points ago

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It's so weird to see Skinny Mac now.

[–]springsten 12 points13 points ago

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You mean Ronald McDonald?

[–]abadphilosopher -1 points0 points ago

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oh my god i did a double take when i read that, then i remembered the reunion ep...

[–]thegerf 106 points107 points ago

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Ah, a joke designed to reveal the absurdity of the things these horrible people are saying being taken as a way to legitimize hatred for addicts. Cool.

[–]lediablerouge 88 points89 points ago

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There are always those people that think a modest proposal is a serious suggestion.

[–]mdboop 19 points20 points ago

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Is that your own line? Because it's fucking gold, and either way, quite quotable.

[–]sirukin 38 points39 points ago

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I HAVE A MODEST PROPOSAL, WHY DON'T WE EAT THE CRACKADDICTS?

[–]BleuEspion 10 points11 points ago

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Multiple syllables. Explosive diarrhea

[–]sirukin 5 points6 points ago

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LOUD NOISES!

[–]DrummerHead 7 points8 points ago

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I love lamp.

[–]amazinnn -1 points0 points ago

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A Jonathan Swift reference? I am... impressed.

[–]lediablerouge 5 points6 points ago*

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It's "mine" I guess, but it really feels like something* someone else would say.

Edit: My brain like to skip words.

[–]RedWave 1 point2 points ago

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Quick! think of another line!

[–]abadphilosopher 4 points5 points ago

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Let's eat children, but only the low calorie ones.

[–]TimesAreTough 2 points3 points ago

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Is that your own line? B/c if not, I'm gonna snort it

[–]mdboop 1 point2 points ago

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I don't know if gold dust is the best thing to snort...

[–]NiccoHel 0 points1 point ago

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[–]Napasaurus 3 points4 points ago

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I met an idiot teenager who legitimately thought Borat was mocking Jews and Foreigners.

[–]240caloriesperbottle 5 points6 points ago

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TIL: Hatred is the same thing as not having empathy for peoples horrible life choices.

[–]colourmeblue -2 points-1 points ago*

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Addicts don't choose to be addicts but they choose to continue using whatever they're addicted to. I see no reason not to hate addicts. They are selfish, horrible people. Do they have a problem? Yes. But it is their fault. My brother is a heroin addict. I've seen his ups and downs. He's stolen from me and everyone he knows, he has drained my parents' savings with failed attempts at rehab and I don't have an ounce of sympathy for him.

[–]thegerf 35 points36 points ago

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I wish you and your brother luck through this difficult time in both of your lives.

[–]colourmeblue 1 point2 points ago

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Thanks, but he has been out of my life for many years now.

[–]profuselycool 0 points1 point ago

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good for you man

[–]sirukin 0 points1 point ago

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My mother is an alcoholic, everything what this guy said. Fucking addicts, man. Lowest most despicable inhuman creatures. They're exactly like Gollum. Cut all ties and move on.

[–]colourmeblue 2 points3 points ago

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Yep. I wish my parents would understand that they aren't helping him, they're enabling him by putting a roof over his head. Let him sleep on the streets or a bed back in rehab, not your house.

[–]CrazyPurpleBacon 19 points20 points ago

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I think it's more like they choose initially, and then are locked in by addiction.

[–]Shaboz 1 point2 points ago

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Yep... you know it's not a wise choice, but you do it anyways, for whatever reason, and then some people jsut stop and some people say to themselves, "if one is good then fifty is better!".

(last line stolen from Jim Norton)

[–]Motherfrogger 1 point2 points ago

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I think people mostly start through depression and not caring if they die. And upvotes for the Norton quote!

[–]space_monster 16 points17 points ago

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well, I hope for your sake that you never find yourself in a situation that affects your own ability to make good decisions, because if that happens, you're going to have no sympathy for yourself either. and that would suck. and would no doubt lead to more self-destructive behaviour. ask your brother, he'll tell you all about it

[–]buttholevirus 4 points5 points ago

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He wasn't forced to try heroine. Life is hard.

[–]space_monster 17 points18 points ago

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people with no sympathy annoy the shit out of me. you don't know what other people go through. you say 'life is hard', but I'll bet you haven't got a clue.

[–]dreadfulpennies 8 points9 points ago

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It annoys the shit out of me when people automatically assume people without sympathy simply don't understand the ordeal an addict goes through.

As the daughter of two addicts, I have zero sympathy for the majority of addicts. I've gotten into the biggest arguments with otherwise pleasant, amiable people over their reactions to my being the offspring of addicts.

Said reaction is usually something like, "I'm sorry. Addiction is a hell of a disease." To which I usually reply with something like, "No. I don't think it's a disease." After which, they will immediately jump to defend my parents while knowing very little of the situation.

It annoys me, in general, how much more sympathy addicts get over the people they hurt. I'm not saying that, case to case, they don't deserve sympathy or that the people hurt by them want sympathy. It's just... agh. People who have lost their patience with addicts aren't necessarily without sympathy. They've just used it all up in this particular area.

And now I'm just raging and rambling, so I'll shut up.

[–]space_monster 3 points4 points ago

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you have zero sympathy, or zero patience?

[–]space_monster 6 points7 points ago

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if you met those people when they weren't addicts, you'd probably find them to be nice, likeable, sensible, interesting people. it's the addiction that makes them do all that shitty stuff like stealing from their families. it's not because they're shitty people. if you were forced to take heroin for a few weeks, you'd be doing that stuff yourself. difference is, they made a stupid mistake, & got themselves addicted. so are they to be condemned for the rest of their lives? it's easy for people that haven't been exposed to drugs when they're vulnerable to say 'you just don't take the heroin in the first place'. for a lot of people, it's just a series of random events that takes them to that place where they try it in the first place, and a combination of ignorance, bad psychology & fuck knows what else takes them over the line. no-one would willingly decide to become a thieving addict who fucks over their friends & family. but once you're there, the drug runs your life, it's all-consuming.

[–]colourmeblue -5 points-4 points ago

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Are you yourself an addict? Because you seem to have a lot of sympathy for them. People aren't forced to do drugs. Yes, addicts made a mistake. Over and over again. I don't think all addicts are shitty people when they are clean. My brother is a wonderful person when he's not shooting up. However, an addiction is all consuming and an addict ceases to be themselves. All they care about is getting a fix. An addict doesn't care about others, why should we care about them?

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[–]240caloriesperbottle -2 points-1 points ago

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Exactly.

More than likely the people who cry about no sympathy for addicts are the same people that "get offended" for people in other ways.

[–]Downhilldude 2 points3 points ago

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That is as baseless and empty speculation as I've ever seen.

[–]240caloriesperbottle 0 points1 point ago

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Your face is a baseless and empty speculation.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago

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I have sympathy, or at least empathy, for many people. The disabled, the disfigured, the troubled, the weak.....and so on. However I don't have an ounce of sympathy for addicts who go through life wasting not only their own lives, but preying upon and disrupting the lived of people that love them. The horror stories abound. I also have little or no time for touchy-feely people like you who seem to have more time for the offenders than the people that suffer the offence in the first place. No doubt Colormeblue tried many times to help his brother and was rewarded with theft and the agony of watching his parents go through hell trying to help his self-centred sibling. At some point people just say "Enough is enough." And when you get that experience yourself you will stop being such a sanctimonious clown.

[–]Downhilldude 1 point2 points ago

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You have sympathy for individuals with mental illness, but not those whose illness steers them towards addiction? From what I've read, 30% of the people with mental illnesses will develop a substance abuse problem. Are these people weak and despicable?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Nowhere nearly as much as you.

[–]Downhilldude 1 point2 points ago

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Who are the offenders? Addiction is made horrible partly by unjust laws that criminalize this illness. If these drugs were standardized, if the money spent on law enforcement and prisons instead was spent on treatment options and therapy, then we could actually help instead of making situations worse. Sure, some people make bad choices and.are trapped by their brain chemistry, but with proper supports in place their suffering could be reduced a great deal. Everyone needs help at sometime in their lives.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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The offenders are the people who, having made a ridiculously bad choice - and lets face it we all know the outcome of smoking crack or using any addictive drug - then go on to steal from their families, friends and the community so that they can continue to feed the addiction. Want to help someone? Go help the people who fear to walk the streets after being mugged by some crackhead. Go stop the sobs of some woman now afraid to live in her own home because it was robbed. Go plant flowers at the grave of someone who lost their life being stabbed for a few dollars. Just go away!

[–]Downhilldude 0 points1 point ago

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Or legalize and treat, that's the only way to help both groups. But keep your self righteous anger burning if it makes you feel better about yourself.

[–]JPmoneyman 0 points1 point ago

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I feel like most of the people getting upset in this thread and defending addicts don't know any addicts themselves. You say "Legalize and treat" what exactly will legalizing crack do in your fantasy world? Alcohol is legal and there are more alcoholics than crack addicts. I'm not saying that all addicts need to be punished the emphasis need to be rehabilitation. Legalizing crack does nothing good, the punishments for possession need to change but not the illegal status.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Not at all asshole. Not at all. I was raised by alcholic parents who diverted most of the money we ever had into buying booze. I know what it is like to be on the receiving end ok? While I feel some degree of pity for them I have no hostility. Likewise crack addicts. I feel pity but no hostility. I reserve my hostility for goody-two-shoes mother fuckers like you who think they know better than everyone else. All you do is enable and allow the bad things to happen and then say "There, there, there, you weren't to blame." Bastard.

[–]colourmeblue -1 points0 points ago

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Exactly my thoughts. You can only try for so long, eventually an addict will drag you down with them if you don't cut ties. People think it sounds coldhearted but you gotta look out for number one.

[–]Motherfrogger 1 point2 points ago

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But plenty of families will organise interventions and stuff, if you've really but effort into helping them I guess it's fine cutting them off but most addicts need a good few trips to rehab first.

[–]GreivisIsGod -1 points0 points ago

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Are you saying that life isn't hard unless you're an addict (of whatever)?

[–]space_monster 7 points8 points ago

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no, of course not. I grew up surrounded by seriously disabled & terminally ill people, and I watched a lot of them die young. I know life is hard for a great many people for thousands of reasons. but it must be a special hell to wake up with a bloody needle hanging out of an infected arm, with no friends, no family, no money, no self-respect, no hope, and knowing you're going to do it again as soon as you can. fuck that shit.

[–]GreivisIsGod -3 points-2 points ago

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yeah. it sucks. i guess in a very literal sense i feel "bad" for them, but at the same time, i understand and condone the mocking of them (addicts). i've had all sorts of chances to do all sorts of crazy drugs, and have done a good deal of them, some of them habitually, but i always stayed away from things that would interfere with my daily life in any way. if i ever did become addicted to anything like that, it would be completely understandable that people would be disgusted and unsympathetic towards me. as it's said elsewhere in this thread, "if you didn't want to get addicted to crack, you shouldn't have smoked crack."

[–]Downhilldude 1 point2 points ago

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Would you have been able to make that decision if you suffered from a mental illness? There is a serious comorbididy there; you can't say "i have sympathy for people with mental issues," then get disgusted with them when thay act out those issues.

[–]colourmeblue -2 points-1 points ago

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Exactly. He also wasn't forced to go back time after time for more.

[–]colourmeblue 0 points1 point ago

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Possibly. He's been this way for 10 years. Yeah, his mind is fucked because of all the drugs, but he's been in rehab 7 times and each time he went through detox and was clear headed and decided to leave so he could do more drugs. People can say, "Oh it's the addiction he couldn't help himself," and whatever but plenty of people quit for good. He could too. No sympathy.

[–]Downhilldude 0 points1 point ago

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Does he suffer from bipolar/depression/anxiety/schizophrenia?

[–]colourmeblue 0 points1 point ago

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He is bipolar but refuses to stay on medication.

[–]Downhilldude 0 points1 point ago

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Easy for me to argue compassion when I'm not the one who has been burned by him repeatedly; all I can do is hope he finds both peace and your forgiveness. Bipolar disorder can be debilitating. Someday we may find effective treatment. Until we do, realize that whatever suffering you and your family has endured through his behaviour, his reality is darker and more difficult.

[–]colourmeblue 0 points1 point ago

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I hope he finds peace as well. I will forgive him the moment he takes some personal responsibility and decides he wants to get better. Until then, I'm not terribly concerned about what his reality is.

[–]space_monster 0 points1 point ago

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if he hasn't got the requisite state of mind to be able to quit, then he'll find it very hard to quit. nobody wants to stay on heroin. some people just aren't able to find it in themselves to kick it. it's about situation, psychology, depression, willpower, motivation, support, outlook, optimism, incentive, etc. etc. all thses things need to come together in order to be able to quit. I'd love to be someone that can quit addictions whenever I feel like it. then I wouldn't smoke, & I'd have a body like Bradd Pitt. unfortunately, that's not the case. the only reason I stayed away from heroin is because I saw it kill some friends of mine. but I know for sure that if I got into it, for whatever stupid reason, I'd find it amazingly hard to get off it.

[–]colourmeblue 2 points3 points ago

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It's killed friends of his as well. One of his best friends was found behind a dumpster in a 7/11 parking lot with a needle in his arm. That didn't deter him. I understand that addictions are hard to kick. It takes willpower and dedication. So what. Get some. It takes willpower and dedication to do a lot of things. Call me cold or uncaring, but life's tough. He needs to grow the fuck up and deal with it.

[–]space_monster 6 points7 points ago

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that's like saying 'cheer up!' to someone with depression. you can't just 'get' willpower & dedication. your behaviour is a function of your psychology. if your psychology doesn't support willpower & dedication at the time, you won't have willpower & dedication. something in his life needs to change in order for his psychology to change.

[–]blues_clues 1 point2 points ago

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You don't choose depression. You choose heroin.

It sounds like you're just trying to rationalize why you don't want to quit. Like the stars have to align or something. Lmao.

[–]space_monster 2 points3 points ago

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the stars do have to align, unfortunately. do you think heroin addicts want to stay on heroin? and if they ever decided to get off it, they could just snap their fingers & be clean? it's really fucking hard to quit heroin. harder than pretty much anything else you could try to do it your life. unless you're an olympic athlete or something. which is why the success rate is so shockingly low.

[–]colourmeblue -4 points-3 points ago

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Someone with depression can see a therapist and get themselves on some medication. A person addicted to drugs can go to rehab and get clean. People need to help themselves if they want to improve their lives.

[–]Commisar_Chronic 3 points4 points ago

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Do you know how much rehab costs? If he's addicted to Heroin and stealing from loved ones to get it, how do you expect him to pay for treatment?

[–]Free_Time 1 point2 points ago

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"he has drained my parents' savings with failed attempts at rehab and I don't have an ounce of sympathy for him." -colourmeblue

[–]colourmeblue 0 points1 point ago

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I do know how much rehab costs because my parents have paid for him to go 7 times. Insurance covered some of it before he was 18 but after that it was all on their dime. He has completely depleted their retirement savings and they would STILL pay for him to go again if he was willing.

[–]space_monster 2 points3 points ago

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so if you got addicted to heroin, for whatever reason, you would just go to rehab & get off it, just like that? you would be one of those 2%? I admire your confidence.

[–]colourmeblue 0 points1 point ago

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First of all, I wouldn't be stupid enough to get addicted to heroin in the first place. Secondly, where do you get your statistics? Everything I've read about rehab centers show well over a 50% success rate for people who WANT to get clean. 2% is ridiculous. And to answer your question yes, I would just go to rehab and get off it. I don't think it would be easy but it's not impossible.

[–]NiccoHel 0 points1 point ago

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Same situation as my mom's friend. She has two daughters that are smart as all get-out, and one son that just can't seem to pull his head out of his ass.

[–]blues_clues 0 points1 point ago

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The people who feel bad for addicts have obviously never had an addict in their life.

[–]LordFoom 1 point2 points ago

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Untrue. I have sympathy for addicts and I have and have had addicts in my life.

Sympathy != condoning.

[–]Downhilldude 1 point2 points ago

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Wrong. Both grandfathers, 2 uncles. Lost one grandfather to booze and pills, the other got clean and just celebrated his 90th. Guess which grampa I emulate?

[–]colourmeblue -2 points-1 points ago

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But I'm sure they watch intervention.

[–]Insolent1 -1 points0 points ago

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The fact that he's a heroin addict has nothing to do with your hatred of addicts and your unhappiness with your brother. It's pretty likely your attitudes in these areas bleed over into other aspects of your life and make you less happy. But it's not his fault. It's yours.

[–]colourmeblue 0 points1 point ago

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I'm perfectly happy. I don't hate addicts but I don't feel any sympathy towards them. There's a difference.

[–]eifersucht12a -2 points-1 points ago

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For me it's not hatred for addicts. It's hatred for somebody stupid and irresponsible enough to "try" crack ONCE. Zero sympathy.

[–]JohnTDouche 10 points11 points ago

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I tried crack a couple of times, big deal. That was about 6 years ago. If someone offered me again some time I might partake. So do ya hate me? Go learn something about drugs and addiction you idiot.

[–]occasionally_horny 2 points3 points ago

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I tried crack once, too. Broke up with THAT bf. No worries here.

[–]ifiwasntintherapgame 0 points1 point ago

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I feel bad for people who can have "Zero sympathy" for another human being, no matter what kind of choices they made. What's it like to be so sure of someone else's experience of life?

[–]Champigne 3 points4 points ago

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As a member of 12 step program, and someone who has smoked crack many times in the past, this is incredibly offensive. I agree with thegerf's sentiment. No one wakes up one day and says, "You know what? I'm gonna go and become a drug addict". There are many "crackheads" that have long lost the desire to smoke rock, they just don't know how to stop.

[–]austinrcarnes -1 points0 points ago

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But they did wake up one morning and say "You know what? I'm gonna go and smoke crack". Doing those kinds of drugs and thinking you won't get addicted is like fucking a hooker that you know has herpes and thinking you're not gonna catch it: stupid.

[–]Champigne 1 point2 points ago

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I don't think most people make a conscious decision to and seek crack before they've ever tried. The drugs find their way to you; if someone offers you something you're at least somewhat likely to accept. Its obviously a terrible decision, but its usually in the moment that someone decides to use drugs.

[–]thatTigercat 1 point2 points ago

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if someone offers you something you're at least somewhat likely to accept

This is where the stupid happens.

[–]ifiwasntintherapgame 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, I couldn't help but wonder how many crackheads OP has actually encountered or how this super easy karma post is relevant to anything at all.

[–]ffunyman -4 points-3 points ago

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Ah, an unoriginal comment made to an image and quote from a show based upon people who are assholes used as a way to legitimize being self-righteous.

[–]kyledouglas521 -2 points-1 points ago

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wut?

[–]PoppaDoppolis 28 points29 points ago

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R.I.P. Whitney Houston

[–]fritzcharleston 6 points7 points ago

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Rampart.

[–]BrotimeAtBrojangles 6 points7 points ago

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Ohhhh! This episode was on the other night. Hilarious show.

[–]PrototypeKH 2 points3 points ago

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Man, I just love it when people put up gifs/images/memes that involve TV shows that I've just started to watch.

[–]Occamslaser 9 points10 points ago

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Empathy is hard, I understand.

[–]AmericanRover 4 points5 points ago

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LOL ALWAYS SUNNY GIF

[–]RainbowPopsicle 1 point2 points ago

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I love this episode.

Danny DiVito's delivery of the last line is comedy gold.

[–]TimmyTheHellraiser 1 point2 points ago

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I fucking LOVE Whitney Houston jokes.

[–]Tigeroovy 4 points5 points ago

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Yeah.

Yeah..

[–]Always_Leaves_You_Ha 3 points4 points ago

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I suppose you're not spoon fed crack as a baby, so I guess OP has a point. Though, personally, I believe the majority of crack addicts already had underlying mental conditions before turning to crack.

[–]occasionally_horny 1 point2 points ago

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I can believe that.

Source: ex bf

[–]thebope -2 points-1 points ago

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Many people are born as crack addicts due to their parents...

[–]bobqjones 2 points3 points ago

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[–]thebope 0 points1 point ago

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Upvote cool. Never knew that.

I always thought it was true, then I met my friend who eventually went crazy (although that might of been the untreated handle of liqour bottle wound to the head, who knows...) and his mom dealt cocaine so I figured she probably did some when he was being born. I dunno that kids life is all sorts of fucked up. Thanks for the info though.

[–]Champigne 2 points3 points ago

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I honestly don't understand the stigma associated with crack and its users. Its just another way to use cocaine, not much more worse than snorting it. And I'm glad the OP has sympathy for me as a recovering cocaine addict.

[–]Legitsu 3 points4 points ago

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Aww, did somebody have an arbitrary life?

[–]nickfromredcliff 9 points10 points ago

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Hm. I simply do not get this. I have never heard those two words together - arbitrary life. Care to explain?

[–]Occamslaser 10 points11 points ago

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I assume that his point is that life just happens and our decisions are greatly colored by our situations. One's life is unplanned and who is to say that given their situation you would not have ended up in the bear trap of addiction.

Or he thought it meant something else.

[–]nickfromredcliff 0 points1 point ago

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Cool, thanks.

[–]Ras_H_Tafari 7 points8 points ago

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it's a perfectly cromulent word.

[–]Legitsu -1 points0 points ago

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I meant it in the sense of total control. As in the OP clearly has total control over his life, and therefor does not understand what goes through the mind of a drug addict. If I am using it incorrectly it is my mistake.

[–]Daveyd325 2 points3 points ago

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I don't get it. How is one a drug addict before he chooses to take said drug? I mean, this is really what the OP is throwing out there, no sympathy for the original stupidity.

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Having two longtime friends addicted to heroin, who will both probably die from heroin, and not being able to do anything about it, I don't find this particularly funny. But hey, it's just Reddit.

[–]The-Mathematician 2 points3 points ago

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Whiteknights. Whiteknights everywhere.

[–]MDCisgoodforme 0 points1 point ago

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Best show! Watched like 7 episodes today!

[–]ScubaSteve888 0 points1 point ago

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Darwin said buy crack and see what happens

[–]goods84 0 points1 point ago

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dingus

[–]knerp 0 points1 point ago

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How does one get addicted to something that is difficult to obtain?

i.e. go to a bad neighborhood..deal with dangerous dealers and street thugs every time you want to get high..how does one get addicted to something like that?

If that was me, even if i loved the high I would feel like it was way to big a a pain in the ass to actually get it.

[–]Givants 0 points1 point ago*

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Hey!! Back off from whitney. Too soon.

Edit: It's sarcasm people. Fucking reddit, claim to be sarcasm masters, doesnt get it

[–]A_Soft_Narwhal 5 points6 points ago

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Naw. Her fault for dying. Crack is a helluv a drug.

[–]Patsson77 0 points1 point ago

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It must being lonely

[–]eifersucht12a -1 points0 points ago

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She smoked crack for fuck's sake. ಠ_ಠ If you do crack and die at 20 it's not "too soon" it's entirely an appropriate time. You're on borrowed time the second you put your lips to the pipe.

[–]Givants 1 point2 points ago

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Dude it was sarcasm, I was the first one to be up in arms against people who sanctify them just because they are dead.

[–]osamabinhidin 1 point2 points ago

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People in this thread are retards.

[–]tuton11 -5 points-4 points ago*

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How i feel about people with no compassion

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/wrzn_c/slap.gif

[–]mdboop 6 points7 points ago

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Upvote for irony and Romero.

[–]ablebodiedmango -5 points-4 points ago

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Yes, illustrative of your point of what you feel about people without compassion, a gif worthy of /r/beatingwomen. You're a smart one.

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[–]ablebodiedmango -4 points-3 points ago

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If that was a joke, don't quit your...

Shit, I doubt you have one. Nevermind.

[–]tuton11 0 points1 point ago

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Chill man its the internet enjoy your day

[–]ablebodiedmango -4 points-3 points ago

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I'll enjoy my night while we're at it.

[–]tuton11 -1 points0 points ago

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Ill never understand the point of arguing over the internet...I guess some people enjoy it. I'm in too good of a mood to entertain you my friend.

[–]dotchHopkin -2 points-1 points ago

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ugh shut up already

[–]Rainbows_Ponies_Love 0 points1 point ago

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How I feel about crackheads ... why would I care as long as they're not messing up my life I don't care.

[–]Daveyd325 -1 points0 points ago

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Babies?

[–]Rainbows_Ponies_Love 1 point2 points ago

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What about babies?

[–]Daveyd325 -1 points0 points ago

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[–]Rainbows_Ponies_Love 1 point2 points ago

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Um I don't care as long as the crack head don't bother me.

[–]Daveyd325 0 points1 point ago

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I'm straying into a zone of fallacies here, but how different is this from not giving a shit about 'kids in Africa'?

That whole ignorance and bliss thing can only get you so far.

[–]Rainbows_Ponies_Love 0 points1 point ago

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No No No The Crack Heads have a choice of doing crack. But the Kids in Africa never had a choice of wanting to live like that. I never said I don't care about Kids in Africa. It's Crack Heads choice do get messed up. If I could I would help every single PERSON in the world ... But I don't have that kind of power. If I had the power I would Fix All the problems in the world. If I had the power I could Stop Racist. If I could I would remove all the killers out there. People have choices.

[–]Daveyd325 0 points1 point ago

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Crack babies don't get a choice to be born through a crackhead.

[–]Rainbows_Ponies_Love -1 points0 points ago

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What's a crack baby? O.o

[–]Daveyd325 0 points1 point ago

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A baby made out of crack.

It is also an apparent myth which I believed till about 5 minutes ago.

But regardless of that, said child still has to live in the same household with a crackhead. It's still possibly true though, but I don't want to mislead you or anything, so here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_cocaine_exposure

[–]Harbltron 0 points1 point ago

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You know, when I moved out west and got my first apartment I was a total bleeding-heart. I would give a quarter to every third homeless person because I thought I was really doing some good.

After living 1/2 a block from a homeless shelter for a year and having to deal with pushers, hookers, addicts, and any tweaker looking for a fix in my block on a daily basis, I don't have much compassion for addicts.

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[–]Nigger_Fagggott 21 points22 points ago

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Well someone who became addicted is likely to have some depression or other emotional problems. You should feel sorry for an addict there life probably fucking sucks at the moment

[–]HoratioHufnagel 26 points27 points ago

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I think we can all learn a lesson in compassion from Nigger_Fagggott's wise words.

[–]DrummerHead 2 points3 points ago

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It's funny because WTF WHY YOU HAVE THAT USERNAME

[–]theretheresweetthing 2 points3 points ago

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It means pineapple.

[–]HarvestProject 9 points10 points ago

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This is pretty ignorant. For a lot of people, they don't just start using crack or heroin right away. My drug of choice was pot, but no one on Reddit has a problem with weed, right? It's a disease of choice, a disease of the mind. You disgust me.

[–]Legio_X -3 points-2 points ago

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If you're allowed be addicted to something like pot, which is not physically addicting, just psychologically, then why shouldn't other people be allowed to be addicted to World of Warcraft and claim it as a "disease" or some such?

I would rather sit around, smoke pot and play videogames all day, it is after all more enjoyable, but I have the self-discipline to not do so. Don't see how calling it a disease when someone lacks that discipline helps the situation at all.

Hell, soon enough people will be claiming that addiction to food is a disease. And who are we to say it's not, if we say that being addicted to other things that aren't physically addicting, like weed, is a disease?

[–]HarvestProject 1 point2 points ago

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If you do something, anything enough, that it interferes with normal life to the point that personal relationships, self-goals, health, etc. that is addiction. And there is a little something called video game addiction, or gambling addiction. With some drugs, like weed, it is psychalogically addicting. With heroin or cocaine, it is both physically and mentally addicting. There are genes in play which we, as addicts, have no way of controlling which lead to continual use and abuse. It is not simply discipline.

If I am at a bar, and someone has a gun pointed to my head saying, "If you drink this, I will shoot you." A normal person would think, "Oh fuck, there's no way I'm going to do that." A person suffering from addiction would think, "How do I know it's 100% loaded?". Do you really think millions of people just lack self-discipline? Do you think that after living in a motel with no family, friends, money or a job I want to keep using just because I don't have the discipline? Of course not.

[–]Legio_X -2 points-1 points ago

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Here's the thing: in the career path I'm in, nobody will accept excuses like "I'm addicted to video games" or "gambling" or basically anything else. The only "acceptable" addiction for which you can get help and not be permanently out of a career is alcohol. If I say "help me, I can't show up to my job because I play Skyrim 14 hours a day", their reaction won't be "oh you poor diseased man, let us spend thousands of dollars helping you," it will be "why is this loser working for us, fire him and get someone who doesn't act like a 13 year old."

Just because other people can't handle alcohol, they get to call it a "disease"?

If I decide to stay home and just smoke pot with a friend all day instead of going to grad school, that's not because I'm an "addict" and have a "disease". It's because I'm lazy and apparently my work ethic just wasn't up to snuff that day.

Do I think that millions of people lack self discipline? OF COURSE! Why do you obesity rates are approaching 40% in the United States? People don't have the self discipline to not be stuffing themselves with cake all the time, they don't have the discipline to exercise, etc.

Of course, I'm not that disciplined myself. But relative to most other people, it's scary. The fact that I can refrain from drinking/smoking/eating all day long every day apparently puts me ahead of the curve already.

Don't get me wrong, some people have personalities that are just more conducive to addiction. But those same personalities are also the ones that aren't going to be conducive to certain career paths. Do you think it would be ok if President Obama had "videogame addiction"? No, for that job you require someone to actually have unshakable self-discipline and a crazy work ethic to boot.

[–]HarvestProject 1 point2 points ago

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You're not understanding when I say it's a disease of choice. It's a proggressive, treatable illness with a potential for relapse. This is why the AMA has classified it as such. You obviously have never met, or have had anyone in your family that is an addict.

And I will state this again, why would anyone willingly want to throw their lives down the drain just to smoke pot, trip, roll, etc. ? There comes a point when one wants to stop, but can't. Addiction takes its' toll in the hind brain. It takes presendence over eating, sleep, reproduction. Addiction is a disease of choice, plain and simple. There is suffering that occurs in our minds when we can't or shouldn't use drugs or alcohol. It is prolonged and excruciating.

[–]Legio_X 0 points1 point ago

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No doubt there, I'm trying to differentiate the mental illness of addiction with the physical illness of addiction/withdrawal.

Like I said before, weed for example is NOT physically addicting. There is no withdrawal, no biological dependence. You will not die or even feel bad if you stop smoking weed.

Heroin, on the other hand, will create a chemical dependence that can seriously injure or kill you if you try to go off it too quickly.

So while you could argue that a heroin addiction is a physical disease, a weed addiction or a video game addiction is a mental illness. Not a physical one.

As for throwing lives down the drain, I ask you this: how many people do you think willingly throw their lives down the drain, whether for drugs or anything else? Plenty of people inadvertently end up in bad situations, they didn't intend to go there, but they didn't do what was necessary to NOT end up there.

You ever go to a university? There are the "career students" who are 29 or 30 years old and still haven't finished their arts undergrad degree. Do you think those people went into it saying "I'm going to spend as much time getting a Bachelors degree as most people take getting a Ph. D?" Of course not. But for one reason or another, that's where they ended up. And as you've no doubt witnessed, it's extremely common. That's just one example of many.

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[–]rsandoval92 5 points6 points ago

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Then that's not saying anything about addicts, just that you have little compassion and are ignorant to the causes and effects of a drug addiction.

[–]Legio_X 1 point2 points ago

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You can have compassion for someone in unfortunate circumstances while also being aware of the fact that many of them are there because of their own poor choices.

Not all, of course. Some people just draw the short straw in life, with bad parents, bad neighborhoods, schools, etc.

[–]rsandoval92 0 points1 point ago

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Exactly.

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[–]rsandoval92 2 points3 points ago

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I agree that it's a large personal responsibility to not do drugs, but you can only see things through the filter that your life experience has put over your eyes. Some people grow up in completely different environments without the kind of structure needed to prevent drug abuse.

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I'm glad that you have the fortune of not suffering through drug addiction or the hardships that lead to it.

[–]failtree -4 points-3 points ago

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I was reading a post by a fellow redditor that kind of stuck out at me. He was mentioning how in these neighborhoods where crack is prevalent that is the only option to people. Like say if you wanted some weed, but all the weed there is really junk, and any good weed is really expensive, I bet crack is a cheaper alternative that gets you to a 10+ instantly. ( not my own thoughts, read it earlier by a different redditor)

I kind of agree with this, although obviously in the long term the crack wins in the most expensive category .

[–]Aswas 4 points5 points ago

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This is what killed the legalize pot movement back in the late seventies. We were going strong, then suddenly people started smoking cocaine. That turned the tide. Plus the head of NORML was supposedly caught doing cocaine

[–]isopropophlex -1 points0 points ago

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To be honest; I don't care about rawjr414 outlooks on life at all.

People should stop spreading their marginal opinions.