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[–]SigmaDraconisIV 26 points27 points ago

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Looks like somebody's in a

...3d sunglasses...

...Master's program.

[–]thesalemdit 4 points5 points ago

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Yeeeeeaaaaaaaah

[–]punkerdante182 2 points3 points ago

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[–]FlagshipBenz 0 points1 point ago

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This is the best button ever

[–]nukalurk 0 points1 point ago

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No, this is the best button ever.

[–]FlagshipBenz 0 points1 point ago

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I would have to agree with you on that! CSI button is second best now

[–]DreadPiratesRobert 0 points1 point ago

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No, THIS is the best button ever!

[–]macrovore 8 points9 points ago

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Is that John Simm? The Master would never cry like that...

[–]sknkpop 0 points1 point ago

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John Simm's better roles were in Life on Mars, and in the movie Human Traffic. As far as Life on Mars goes? Yes, yes he would cry like that. (With that said, he is my favorite Master, so all the love in the world for John Simm.)

[–]vault15 6 points7 points ago

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Unless you can find online book pdfs. Yes, I mean buy them. Why would I hint towards anything else? That wouldn't be ideal considering you would save so much money.

[–]mmajunkie 12 points13 points ago

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college freshman Actually buys books

[–]McClaine 6 points7 points ago

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MFW I found out my school had free text rental.

[–]Mentalseppuku 8 points9 points ago

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Good news! Those textbooks cost between 3 and 5 dollars a piece to physically produce!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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If you ignore paying the team of doctors who wrote it, the team of editors who read the whole book multiple times, and the cost of marketing and distribution.

[–]Mentalseppuku 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah, they did a lot of work on those last 10 editions where they added two paragraphs and changed up the layout so students would have to buy a brand new book every year.

This is textbooks we're talking about, they aren't written by a team of doctors. In many cases they're simply collections of already available knowledge thrown together and charged a ridiculous fee for.

Distribution is significantly cheaper than you would think, and marketing is non-existant unless you consider sending a copy of your book to a professor.

[–]dnauge 3 points4 points ago

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It only gets worse.

[–]mazumi 2 points3 points ago

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Check amazon - I found my English 101 book, retail $90, on there used for $2.98 in good shape. Just search the ISBN.

[–]caddierun1[S] 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah I usually do that, but I needed some of the books now because I was already behind. The only problem with amazon is that it can sometimes take over 2 weeks to get the books

[–]B1Gpimpin 3 points4 points ago

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college students can get 6 free months of Amazon Prime, and then its like half price after that. Free 2 day shipping.

[–]caddierun1[S] 0 points1 point ago

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hmmmm....interesting

[–]darkfate 1 point2 points ago

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Downside is most of the really cheap used books are from different sellers so Amazon Prime doesn't apply, unless the order says FULFILLED BY AMAZON.

[–]wehadanorangetree 0 points1 point ago

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Still buy them from Amazon. Once they arrive, return the other ones back to the bookstore.

[–]muffinheart 2 points3 points ago

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Why do text books cost so much in American colleges (coupled with the higher tuition fees)?

The last time I bought a university textbook was in 1st year and it cost me £50. Everyone complained that even that was too expensive.

[–]wateristasty 1 point2 points ago

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It's a scam here. They change the editions every year by mixing up the problems and sections too so you can't reliably use an older book or resell it at the end of the semester for more than ~20% of what you paid.

[–]spermracewinner -5 points-4 points ago

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It doesn't matter what you do. If you make it free people will complain. Some people get things for free and complain! (For example, I've complained about Reddit. Well, the people really.) Set a price that's reasonable, and then be on your way. You can't please everyone.

[–]SexiestSexist 1 point2 points ago

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Last semester I had to buy a book for $180 and we only used it in class twice. How is that reasonable?

[–]Wertyui09070 0 points1 point ago

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Nice try, Text Book company CEO

[–]Epicurite 2 points3 points ago

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Soon after he wondered how much he could sell his body for.

[–]Verdris 2 points3 points ago

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International editions, man. $120 textbook? $30 international edition. Same book, just printed cheaply and bound in softcover. Exact same text and problems.

Example:

Domestic.

International.

A warning, however, some international editions, while the material is identical, some problems may be changed. I have an international edition of Optics by Hecht and half the problems are identical to the domestic edition, while half have been changed. And I mean ENTIRELY, not just minor variations in the numbers. A quick look through the preface revealed the phrase "Most of the problems at the end of the chapter have been suitably modified or replaced to mirror the type of questions posed at Indian university examinations."

Also, as has been mentioned, you can often use older editions. I took a real analysis class and had the old edition of the text, and the instructor let me photocopy the problem sets from his book.

The textbook publishing industry is fucked up, at best. Often new editions just contain re-written problems in order to sell a new batch of books to make money for the publishers and authors, while the core material remains identical. It's a bitch.

[–]torokunai 1 point2 points ago

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25 years ago book buyback was just getting going so publishers weren't doing the versioning bullshit yet and I could get through a full quarter for about $100 net cost, often less.

[–]tombutt 1 point2 points ago

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A lot of time you can actually use older versions of the textbook, which you can get from 2-10 dollars.

The differences are often minute.

[–]the-green-dragonfly 1 point2 points ago

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Every semester...and it only gets worse.

[–]ElectroTurk 1 point2 points ago

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Try finding PDFs. In my final year of my engineering program, and since first year, I've never purchased a book that I could online for free. You can usually find solution manuals and any related computer programs too.

[–]GrassChick 1 point2 points ago

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My reaction when I bought my books and couldn't return them... $300 something fucking bucks, man.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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A friend of mine works for Pearson. The same book costs 10 times as much in the US as it does in the UK because Pearson have followed the exponential rise in the cost of tertiary education in America. His Northern Californian sales team pulls in more volume than the entire UK. Apparently they rage about how they cannot put UK prices up to match. I suspect the end of free University education on our shores will no doubt make them very happy.

University textbooks are a racket. The changes from one edition to another are usually those that affect page numbers, or exercises, rather than earth shattering research.

[–]spermracewinner -1 points0 points ago

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If the sale of textbooks supports a professor, or the pursuit of knowledge, then that's cool. But I could only gripe about old financial texts, that have hardly changed, charging an arm and a leg.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah my first semester I spent 373 bucks on 3 fucking books T____T

[–]neanderthalman 0 points1 point ago

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Who gives a shit? Don't fucking buy them.

They're in the library. If the professor actively uses the textbook in the course (assignments, etc) more than once, only then do you go out and buy it.

[–]Buhdahl 0 points1 point ago

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Psst... I know a guy who knows a guy that can get you PDF versions of your textbook.

[–]punkerdante182 0 points1 point ago

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I've made it my personal mission to not pay for any of my books for the rest of my college life. Been doing it for 3 years have a semester left.

[–]CircuitLogic 0 points1 point ago

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I just went into my college's bookstore to buy a physics textbook. They only sold a loose leaf copy for $180, so that I not only had to buy a binder to carry it, but I also had no chance of selling it in the future!

Needless to say, I found a PDF and made my own textbook with only the sections I need!

[–]killbot9 0 points1 point ago

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protip - Don't buy them

[–]manch455 0 points1 point ago

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Don't get them. Spent heaps getting All The Textbooks and barely used them at all. When I did I could have easily borrowed them of a mate.

[–]kookooktchoo 0 points1 point ago

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P I R A C Y

[–]chung101 0 points1 point ago

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ebookee.net anyone?

[–]LeZygo 0 points1 point ago

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Guess what? I've gotten a lot of my books for graduate school from the library/inter library loan. Did cost me a thing!

[–]WalterFStarbuck 0 points1 point ago*

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If you think it's bad as is, go look at what textbooks cost in the 1960s

Theodore von Karman's "Aerodynamics"

Adjusting for inflation a comparable textbook should cost ~$15 to 30 in 2010.


Considering it's now a classic, you can get a copy for ~$15, but a comparable Aerodynamics textbook which you might need for a class today is either:

[–]zxcv73 0 points1 point ago

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Seriously when are they going to make all text books digital for the nook or Ipad or something. This is taking way to dam long. For that $300 you could buy a Nook, and have $200 for the actual books. It would lower the cost so much, and then you could carry all your text books in a little tiny ereader, instead of a huge backpack, so much easier. Dam the institutionalized bs of it all.

[–]lisette23 0 points1 point ago

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just had to pay 82 dollars for an access code!