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[–]bbells 38 points39 points ago

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If you're going to hell for that I'm really screwed...

Me and my family were taking down the tree fort me and my brother had as kids. There was two pieces of wood screwed together in the shape of a cross. I picked it up and started walking with it saying things like "Hey guys this is really heavy, Hey Simon can you come help me".

Then I stepped on stray nail that went through my shoe into my foot. I had to go to the doctor to get a tetanus shot.

[–]ChrispyK 54 points55 points ago

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You Jesused too hard, broski. Be thankful that the Flying Spaghetti Monster only saw fit to punish one of your limbs for your worship of false idols.

[–]SensibleMadness 55 points56 points ago

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Never go full Jesus.

[–]Guyag 0 points1 point ago

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FSM bless you

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[–]CoachSpo 11 points12 points ago

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CHECKMATE

[–]HannPoe 8 points9 points ago

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See atheists? A child had an accident while playing with a screwed piece of wood. CHECKMATE!

[–]deejayalemus 3 points4 points ago

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Nailed it.

[–]gbCerberus 2 points3 points ago

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If you're going to hell for that I'm really screwed...

Besides Hell not being that bad because it doesn't actually exist, what could (possibly, hypothetically) be worse?

[–]bbells 0 points1 point ago

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Touché my friend.

[–]PartialChub 0 points1 point ago

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Jesus man, that's some shitty luck.

[–]Txe 67 points68 points ago

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[–]Eddicus 30 points31 points ago

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If he can turn water into wine, who's to say he can't turn the liquor in his bloodstream into pure testosterone?

[–]imissyourmusk 5 points6 points ago

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He's been working out.

[–]Siverix 2 points3 points ago

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he's a carpenter what do you expect?

[–]yetanothermc 1 point2 points ago

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true story

[–]RichardPeterJohnson 1 point2 points ago

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Looks as if the artist correctly drew the nails through the wrists.

[–]varemia 1 point2 points ago

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It varied between wrists and hands. They used the hands with the wrists tied to the wood with cord if they wanted to induce more torture.

[–]executex 1 point2 points ago

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Yes that is correct way to crucify. However, I think it's odd that people think the "son of God" would allow himself to be so easily killed by nails.

So then Christians say, "well he could have broken free, but he suffered for our sins"---well if he's god, then he doesn't feel pain. Not to mention, God claimed that the things humans do ARE sins in the first place.

It just doesn't make a single shred of sense.

[–]american_history_x 1 point2 points ago

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Looks like you are showing first signs of reason and logic. And yes, religion cannot be understood by reason. And you should not even try, because you will get terribly confused. Religious people themselves admit this problem by saying that you need to have faith to understand things. Religion if for brain-dead!

[–]teamhex 7 points8 points ago

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Implying it really happened

[–]misterraider 5 points6 points ago

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The Romans did crucify people.

[–]ahorseinasuit 3 points4 points ago

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"But apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, viniculture, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"

"Brought peace?"

"Oh, peace? SHUT UP!"

[–]Siverix 1 point2 points ago

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Romans took half of those things from Greeks and Egyptians.

[–]ahorseinasuit 0 points1 point ago

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Watch "Life of Brian". Go on. Go watch it. I'll wait here. You wont be sorry.

[–]teamhex 3 points4 points ago

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I'm talking about Jesus dude not the fact that Romans did that. I think it's a well established fact that the Romans were pretty cruel.

[–]Forscyvus 0 points1 point ago

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there wasnt an implication of existance. For a roman crucifixion involving nails, they go through the wrists. It was accurate in that regard.

[–]MinisterOfTheDog 1 point2 points ago*

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Sure, but normally they didn't nail them. I might be wrong.

According to Wikipedia, both tying and nailing were common practices.

[–]sven_7 1 point2 points ago

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nails were a part of crucifixion. not sure where you got your info.

[–]the_penultimate_user 0 points1 point ago

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Ropes were used when nails couldn't be. Like if they couldn't find any or they had to be used somewhere else.

Or if the subject would have died because of the nails,such as if they were already bleeding and the nails would make them bleed out before the full effect of the torture could be experienced.

Also if the executioner or torturer wasn't skilled enough to cleanly make the puncture without killing the victim.

[–]ironikmau5 4 points5 points ago

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Are you serious?

[–]teamhex 3 points4 points ago

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Yes

LOL, how retarded are you people? To the moron saying I said Romans never existed....really dude....don't straw man we with something that stupid. They did indeed exist and did indeed crucify people. That doesn't mean Jesus existed.

[–]BFG_9000 50 points51 points ago

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I think you accidentally a word.

[–]kjmitch 11 points12 points ago

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You mean 'hilarious' isn't a verb?

[–]trampus1 3 points4 points ago

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I'll hilarious you.

[–]racecarspacedinosaur 1 point2 points ago

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i think it gives the picture personality.

[–]p13t3rm 0 points1 point ago

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Hellarious!

[–]backstab555 1 point2 points ago

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DAMNIT, I was just about to post the exact same thing.

[–]Essar 8 points9 points ago

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You mean you were about to post the exact thing that is always posted whenever someone leaves out a word? GEE HOW FUCKING WEIRD!

[–]BFG_9000 4 points5 points ago

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Here, have 40 of my karmas - I have no need for them.

[–]metalmusicatheism 0 points1 point ago

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HEY! It was realistic. You know Christians suck with Engrish Cue facebook post

[–]squirrelwhimsy 118 points119 points ago

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Thank GOD we're all atheists and don't believe in hell... ;)

[–]fiction8 17 points18 points ago

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I just wish I didn't have so many references to it in my swearing vocabulary.

"Holy shit"

"God damn"

"Thank god"

"Fucking hell"

"Jesus christ"

etc...

[–]lawgivers 4 points5 points ago

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I've been working hard to remove those words and expression from daily usage, it's quite difficult!

[–]hay_guize_im_atheist 8 points9 points ago

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omg me too!

[–]fiction8 1 point2 points ago

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Same. "Fuck" and "shit" are two of the few non-religious words that can replace them, but they're not always appropriate.

Gorramit... I think I need to start swearing in Chinese.

[–]Decker108 0 points1 point ago

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[–]Dickle 0 points1 point ago

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Oh Fa Ke You you.

[–]beason4251 0 points1 point ago

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Oh French-Croatian Squid You?

[–]winkleburg 1 point2 points ago

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Why? These are fun words. I love blasphemy!

[–]deejayalemus 0 points1 point ago

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It's one of the oldest forms of profanity.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I think my cursing has reduced because i'm so conscious of it all now

[–]chadsexytime 0 points1 point ago

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When criticized for blaspheming as an atheist, I usually respond with "its an expression, like 'mind your own fucking business'. Also, because I don't actually believe I'm calling down the curses of the gods, its not actually blaspheming. And even if you think it is, I don't believe in your gods, so why the fuck would I care?"

[–]Captain_Apathy 1 point2 points ago

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I've always thought that expletives were the greatest thing religion has ever done for society.

[–]iconoclastica 1 point2 points ago

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These phrases have widely understood meanings and have become secularized. The emotion being expressed is clear, but the words need not have any real belief behind them.

[–]TigerLila 2 points3 points ago

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I've started replacing the word "God" with "fuck", partially just to see what kind of reaction I get. lol "For fuck's sake" and so forth. :D

[–]Cragvis 5 points6 points ago

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fuck bless you?

[–]deejayalemus 0 points1 point ago

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Thank G(had).

[–]IamStrategy 31 points32 points ago

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I have a lot of faith...that god isn't real.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points ago

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And thou Richard Dawkins said in his three-hundred and ninety-fourth page of his ninth Sacred Text, "The God Delusion";

a girl, had a 'little purple man', who seemed to her a real and visible presence, and who would manifest himself, sparkling out of the air, with a gentle tinkling sound. He visited her regularly, especially when she felt lonely, but with decreasing frequency as she grew older. On a particular day just before she went to kindergarten, the little purple man came to her, heralded by his usual tinkling fanfare, and announced that he would not be visiting her any more.

And as it is written it is so.

All hail the mighty Dawkins.

[–]punnymoniker -4 points-3 points ago

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Even though Jesus is the figure head of the Christian faith, that does not mean that he still was not a human, and a very decent one at that. Regardless of what you think of him, he still was a very moral person, and a good teacher to all of us. He has probably been the most influential person in modern history, and has helped us develop a better social system than what was previous to ours. That being said, he was tortured and put to death in a very inhumane way, and represents a time of the past that he has helped pull us out of. I am an agnostic Athiest, but I still see the greatness he has done. Make fun of religious dogma all you please but don't insult what this man has done.

[–]Wolf_Protagonist 17 points18 points ago

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Actually, quite a bit of evidence suggests that "Jesus" the mortal man and historical figure may have been a myth. Or he may have been based of several different men.

Yeah, some of the stuff he (supposedly) said was ok, some of it wasn't. He wasn't a God after all.

That being said, this is a joke. Lighten up.

[–]riddit1 5 points6 points ago

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He is Great alright. for 2000 years heinous crimes have been committed in His name. And you can't say it's not his fault. you don't see Buddhists killing non-Buddhists or each other in the name of Buddha. It is rotten at the core, Your Greatness!

[–]CheapPhrase 1 point2 points ago

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Moral is just a word, and completely in the eye of the beholder. Even influence on history, Jesus or Dawkins, is all completely ambiguous.

[–]kilgoretrout912 2 points3 points ago

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Or he didn't exist at all. There's practically zero non-biblical corroboration.

[–]SerJory 0 points1 point ago

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This may be true to a certain extent, but I think this guy gives a pretty good argument for a historical Jesus.

[–]pmwilkins 1 point2 points ago

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Too soon?

[–]punnymoniker 0 points1 point ago

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What if this were a picture of a bunch of white folk placing an african american in a tree? Would it still be funny then?

[–]pmwilkins 0 points1 point ago

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I'm not one to celebrate death. I wasn't one of the crazies in the street when Osama died, or Hussein. I don't care. But if you can't have a sense of humor about something small like this, just relax. It wasn't just Jesus who died this way, it was tons of people. Joking about death makes the inevitable easier to deal with for people. Fuck you.

[–]punnymoniker 0 points1 point ago

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Fuck me? FUCK ME??? You fucking wish bud. But seriously, I have a sense of humor, and I completely see the humor in this, I just find it inappropriate.

[–]pmwilkins 0 points1 point ago

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Wah. Get off Reddit then.

[–]punnymoniker 0 points1 point ago

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MAKE ME. fucker. Let people voice their opinion without being a faggot.

[–]Submitted2State 0 points1 point ago

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I was programed to defend that Jesus existed too. It was hard to let go of defending those ideas.

Get off the Jesus made morals better and that he was a real guy. That is just untrue and it's a cop-out. Many cultures have similar morals. Jesus also told people to abandon their families to follow him. Being a father myself, that is just ridiculous to think I should abandon my daughter because she'd be a bad influence on my faith. The story of Jesus has many other moral flaws.Skeptics Bible.

[–]CitrusTwist -1 points0 points ago

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Wow bro so rebellious, tell me more.

[–]Big_E_Cock 0 points1 point ago

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embrace the light of god for your bravery

[–]ArtfulDodger31 3 points4 points ago

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I'm a theist and I don't believe in hell, so at least we got that in common.

[–]riddit1 0 points1 point ago

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Amen to that, brother squirrel

[–]squirrelwhimsy 0 points1 point ago

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sister, thank you very much :)

[–]riddit1 0 points1 point ago

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I am not a sister, I am a father. you would address me as 'Your Holiness'

[–]Trusk_Fundz 0 points1 point ago

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where?

[–]squirrelwhimsy 0 points1 point ago

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What do you mean where?

[–]Trusk_Fundz 0 points1 point ago

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like, where is hell. as in i haven't heard of it because we're atheist. am i being trolled? suppose i should have said 'who?' as well.

[–]squirrelwhimsy 1 point2 points ago

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Ah ha... Not being trolled. And yeah, who might have helped. But I suppose the eternal flames would be in the center of the earth, but goodness how do you get there? Very long stairway from a remote island or are you teleported by magic? Who the fuck cares!!!

[–]spoonswithfriends 4 points5 points ago

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This makes Christians CROSS.

[–]ihateyouguys 1 point2 points ago

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..and it just gets the Catholics incensed.

[–]spoonswithfriends 0 points1 point ago

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.......I see what you did there!

[–]tanneberg 2 points3 points ago

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There is no such thing as an afterlife, hell included.

[–]thatdude211 3 points4 points ago

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Jesus was a drunk and his friends were the ultimate trolls

[–]Shnazzyone 4 points5 points ago

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I'm gonna laugh and I don't care if I don't go to heaven. I'm going to Valhalla when I die anyway.

[–]gheis 2 points3 points ago

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If there is a Heaven, I hope that Morgan Freeman is God.

If there is a Valhalla, I hope that Anthony Hopkins is Odin.

[–]sybau 0 points1 point ago

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Olympus for me. We could meet up and trade stamps and shit.

[–]Shnazzyone 0 points1 point ago

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If you believe in olympus wouldn't that put you at the river styx? What's the plan then, fight and defeat mars for access to Olympus?

[–]sybau 0 points1 point ago

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I was going to take the red eye...

[–]Shnazzyone 0 points1 point ago

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Nice try, I already posses the eye of Odin.

[–]Damuffinator 15 points16 points ago

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Nailed it

[–]cowgod42 2 points3 points ago

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Q: What's the difference between Jesus and a picture of Jesus?

A: It only takes one nail to hang a picture of Jesus.

[–]fatal-error 4 points5 points ago

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Zing!

[–]gheis 7 points8 points ago

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Oh come on, we're coming up on 2000 years since this happened. Don't tell me it's still "too soon".

[–]fap_quest 10 points11 points ago

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Quick! get the sharpie---NO!! NOT THE SPEAR!!!!!!!! Shit, just gimme the thorned crown. Man, Jesus is gonna have one helluva hangover LOL.

[–]natzo 4 points5 points ago

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"Man, we don't have any tape or ropes to hold him!"

"Just nail him to the cross, it's gonna be hilarious!"

[–]time_traveller_ 0 points1 point ago

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Don't forget to put this condom in the middle of the crown!

[–]shawndw 3 points4 points ago

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Hey if I could turn water into wine I'd be an alcoholic too.

[–]Khoops66 1 point2 points ago

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We got it all wrong...

[–]Nathan_is_an_ass 3 points4 points ago

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Turns out Jesus just had a bad night at one of those famous Judaea keggers.

[–]mattarei 1 point2 points ago

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And Judas spiked his drink!

[–]Peerew 7 points8 points ago

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next stop: hilarious

[–]Stringy217 1 point2 points ago

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I chuckled so much my flatmate came in to see if I was ok. I think I have a problem.

[–]SensibleMadness 1 point2 points ago

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Well, he was drinking an awful lot of his own blood at the last supper.

[–]InferiousX 1 point2 points ago

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I want to facebook this so bad, but I'm pretty sure half my family would disown me.

[–]WizenedYouth 1 point2 points ago

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Actually you're definitely not.

[–]NEStendog 1 point2 points ago

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i think they forgot 'be' !

[–]Lahmage 1 point2 points ago

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Hell doesn't exist, its okay

[–]TheGreenBackPack 1 point2 points ago

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As an Atheist Jew, this made me shoot my orange juice onto the girl who sits in front of me in lectures hair.

[–]preset_or_theta_is 1 point2 points ago

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christfags

[–]Moviestarjunkey 1 point2 points ago

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And yet, you're offended by the Ten Commandment billboards on the highway?

[–]BerickCook 1 point2 points ago

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If you don't repost this to r/lolgod, I will.

You have been warned.

[–]Hey_Me 1 point2 points ago

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This is why I come to /r/atheism.

That and to get my hate out but ya.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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How is this funny?

[–]Leovelli 1 point2 points ago

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REQUEST: A MUHAMMAD VERSION OF THESE COMICS.

[–]corpsed2112 1 point2 points ago

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"going to hilarious" I'm going to hell for being a Nazi, a grammar Nazi.

[–]ssalka 1 point2 points ago

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The cool thing is that you actually won't go to hell!

[–]leo_toystory3 1 point2 points ago

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Jesus had too many Coronas.

[–]casc1701 1 point2 points ago

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Was it supposed to be funny? //Atheist

[–]jenamonty 3 points4 points ago

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As an atheist, I find this tasteless. There's nothing funny about a human being nailed to a cross. Jesus was a nice guy and this is how we repaid him.

[–]postguy2 5 points6 points ago

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Jesus was a nice guy

Assuming that he existed and that the writings about him are accurate if he did exist.

this is how we repaid him.

We? I don't think anybody more than 2,000 years old is on Reddit right now, reading this.

[–]lazerbeem 1 point2 points ago

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I'm not religious either and I don't see why this is so funny. Is everyone in this subreddit 15 years old and feel they need to be rebellious? If the people here were mature at all they wouldn't care about making fun of Christianity.

[–]postguy2 1 point2 points ago

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I'm mature, and I make fun of it because it's a poison on our society that tolerating them has not changed. Mocking them is better than a revolt, in my opinion.

[–]Moviestarjunkey 0 points1 point ago

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Mocking them is better than a revolt...

Nope, you sound like a rebellious teenager who laughs at stupid shit.

[–]sybau 1 point2 points ago

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Your offence by his amusement is rather telling. He didn't make the joke, after all.

[–]postguy2 0 points1 point ago

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Only to an offended theist who has to believe that's what I am to ease the cognitive dissonance disrespect for their beliefs causes.

[–]jenamonty 0 points1 point ago

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"We" as in human nature. Also meaning those people 2,000 years ago and us right now making fun of him. Whether he existed or not, we can both agree that his "meme" exists; and even so it is a nice meme.

[–]philotimon 0 points1 point ago

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Jews did this, and Jesus has to die like 5 billion times in that way in order to die for *my sins.

[–]ok_atheist 0 points1 point ago

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I don't really agree with the bit about Jesus being a nice guy. I think he was probably a delusional con-man if he existed at all.

Having said that, these are the kinds of posts that make r/atheism look bad. It's not intellectual and it's clearly anti-christian for no justifiable reason. This post is bigotry in my opinion.

I support the author's and OP's right to free speech, but I don't think we'll be converting any christians or winning people's hearts and minds with content like this.

[–]dandello 1 point2 points ago

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Why would you put "defiantly going to hell" in a title, then post it to atheism?

[–]robopilgrim 0 points1 point ago

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Their defiance will send them to hell, obviously.

[–]ordinary-people 0 points1 point ago

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without knowing, i bet this phrase gets used here more than in any other subreddit

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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You're going where?

[–]RobotAnna 0 points1 point ago

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cool email forward

[–]Egnatio 0 points1 point ago

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*be

[–]alex4jesus 0 points1 point ago

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I am going to hell TOO

[–]codeic 0 points1 point ago

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It is really akward to see fear of hell here in reddit kingdom of atheism. Fuck him, laughed hard...

[–]MarkoX 0 points1 point ago

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The almighty can see everything, so ur fucked! (also jz watches you masturbate)

[–]codeic 0 points1 point ago

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you caught me, fuck

[–]MarkoX 0 points1 point ago

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any posting outside masa will be punished by puppy slaughter. You just killed: 5 puppies, gz.

[–]codeic 0 points1 point ago

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lol

[–]Defecate 0 points1 point ago

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I didn't realize hilarious was a verb.

[–]RuckRuck 0 points1 point ago

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OP says he's going to hell on r/atheism.

[–]toastyghost 0 points1 point ago

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no you're not.

[–]420Qween 0 points1 point ago

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Ha!

[–]jeanszerosolos 0 points1 point ago

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This joke has gone on long enough...

[–]coffeetablesex 0 points1 point ago

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going to hell

you may be missing some of the core concepts of being an atheist...

[–]SocksOnHands 0 points1 point ago

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He was passed out for three days then woke up in a cave.

[–]SongBillong 0 points1 point ago

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Hell? What is this mumbo jumbo you speak of?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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i love these.

[–]d6x1 0 points1 point ago

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Except that hell doesn't exist, so I'll laugh as hard as I want rofl, I win

[–]traumalt 0 points1 point ago

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Hangover: Jerusalem

[–]Islanduniverse 0 points1 point ago

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I don't believe that man needs god, thank god.

[–]nolanp14 0 points1 point ago

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Going to hell in r/atheism.... k in addition there was not much to laugh at.

[–]nextlevelsolution 0 points1 point ago

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Hell is made up just like jesus and heaven.

So no, you'll be decomposing in the ground like the rest of us.

[–]kenny_knp 0 points1 point ago

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Repost, and not that old. Around two months actually

[–]oxymora 0 points1 point ago

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Oh I am so there with you!

[–]jayeebee 0 points1 point ago

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Hell?

[–]MrZibbles 0 points1 point ago

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Here's the whole story courtesy of Billy Connolly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE9pxhm1ohQ

[–]XoXeLo 0 points1 point ago

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I saw that in an episode of Pranked.

[–]cowboy_killer 0 points1 point ago

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you aren't going to hell for laughing at this because hell isnt real

[–]toodrunktofuck 0 points1 point ago

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nf;dl

[–]qykslvr 0 points1 point ago

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yup... hell.

[–]painperdu 0 points1 point ago

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Catholics drink wine and whine about the Pope, they pray the prey then smoke the dope, they bless you when you sneeze and start to choke then stay up all night and snort the coke.

[–]MattyDred1 0 points1 point ago

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Trololo, u mad Christians?

[–]Daekin 0 points1 point ago

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This wouldn't be funny even if the spelling/grammar errors were fixed. Bad joke is bad.

[–]Skippy777 0 points1 point ago

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Why would you go to hell we don't believe religion remember?

[–]p13t3rm 0 points1 point ago

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No, you're going to hilarious, omg.

[–]sexi_squidward 0 points1 point ago

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omg I love this

[–]Bamfness 0 points1 point ago

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Don't worry about it, you can't go to a place that doesn't exist

[–]setialpha5 0 points1 point ago

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Jesus got sooooo hammered...

[–]toperman 0 points1 point ago

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even in accent times people used acronyms.

[–]GIJesus 0 points1 point ago

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The caption mentions hell! Proof there's god!

[–]LazyStarGazer 0 points1 point ago

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Exactly how can you travel to a nonexistent destination? I'm rather curious.

[–]Jaaxx 0 points1 point ago

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Looks like I'll be going to hell too!

[–]mitttheserialkiller 0 points1 point ago

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You are already in hell.

[–]gregorious13 0 points1 point ago

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I didn't laugh, not once.

[–]megan3332 0 points1 point ago

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I can't breathe that was too good

[–]releashthebeash 0 points1 point ago

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hahaha ill be right there with ya

[–]timeformetofly 0 points1 point ago

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Yes, you are.

[–]timeformetofly 0 points1 point ago

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Yes, you are.

[–]USMCsniper 0 points1 point ago

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too soon

[–]TastyCow 0 points1 point ago

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Wasn't really funny to be honest.

[–]General_Hide 0 points1 point ago

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I think the bad grammar is funnier than the picture itself. Even as a non-religious person I didn't find this funny

[–]ratebeer -5 points-4 points ago

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People: Atheism and/or r/atheism should probably NOT be about disrespect for Christianity.

[–]evilkorova 3 points4 points ago

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Please tell us more about what atheism should be about :)

I think the image is a poor joke, but not because it's disrespectful... just because it's not funny to me...

[–]kjmitch 1 point2 points ago

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Oh! Pointing people to the FAQ that they should have read before posting so as not to waste the community's time? You're awesome. :D

[–]ratebeer 0 points1 point ago

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Groupthink weakens the community. I don't care what the FAQ says, I'll still do my part to encourage others to become a stronger community by defining themselves through positive ideas. Without reason, logic, science and facts we are nothing more than a cult ourselves.

Teach good thinking and you teach a "natural" atheism. Shortcut with emotion and nasty images and you've hurt the cause by building up defenses to the strongest ideas against a god.

I dislike posts like this because they're cheap, anti-intellectual pot shots that work against the goals of organized opponents to religion. You might not care, but realize that it takes a lot of effort to build and little effort to destroy. You're making things harder for people who care about atheism at the social and political levels.

[–]ratebeer 0 points1 point ago

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Groupthink weakens the community. I don't care what the FAQ says, I'll still do my part to encourage others to become a stronger community by defining themselves through positive ideas. Without reason, logic, science and facts we are nothing more than a cult ourselves. Teach good thinking and you teach a "natural" atheism. Shortcut with emotion and nasty images and you've hurt the cause by building up defenses to the strongest ideas against a god. I dislike posts like this because they're cheap, anti-intellectual pot shots that work against the goals of organized opponents to religion. You might not care, but realize that it takes a lot of effort to build and little effort to destroy. You're making things harder for people who care about atheism at the social and political levels.

[–]konquererz 1 point2 points ago

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Curious about your country of origin. In the US christianity is rammed down our throats and the idea of god divinely working in our country and its history is practically taught in schools. This reaction is normally considering the circumstances. A way to break out regularly if you will.

[–]ratebeer 0 points1 point ago

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It's still no excuse to be a douche, right?

Groupthink weakens the community. I don't care what the FAQ says, I'll still do my part to encourage others to become a stronger community by defining themselves through positive ideas. Without reason, logic, science and facts we are nothing more than a cult ourselves. Teach good thinking and you teach a "natural" atheism. Shortcut with emotion and nasty images and you've hurt the cause by building up defenses to the strongest ideas against a god. I dislike posts like this because they're cheap, anti-intellectual pot shots that work against the goals of organized opponents to religion. You might not care, but realize that it takes a lot of effort to build and little effort to destroy. You're making things harder for people who care about atheism at the social and political levels.

[–]konquererz 0 points1 point ago

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You know, I have heard this argument and out side our little circle jerk subreddit I would agree. Telling people who have been talked down to by most of this country for so long to STFU and be nice and kind all the time is asking a lot. What ever you think it your given job to do telling other people this, its not, not in this context. See it outside of this? In IRL? maybe. But we did no substitute adherence to someone elses moral authority to submit to another persons moral values. The thing is that atheism is about making your own way. You mentioned group think in that it weakens the community while saying you need to teach good thinking. You aren't doing anything different except your group think is deliberately pushed.

You can only be told to burn in hell and have your kids not allowed to play with others and remain silent for so long. Sometime somewhere its gonna come out. If you haven't experienced that then great. But many of us have. If you can't understand that and where the anger comes from then I really can't help you, you just need to try and understand a bit better.

[–]ratebeer 0 points1 point ago

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I understand that Christians can make things oppressive and awful. I also understand the negative emotion involved. It can run quite deep, especially considering a lot of the historic and current newsworthy crimes Christians have perpetrated.

There is a qualitative difference between Groupthink and independent Reason though. Groupthink is a shortcut through reason -- an emotionally propelled action based on mere bias and aided by an individual need for social adherence. I place more trust in an individual exercising reason and good judgement.

While emotional expression has its place, often a lack of emotional control is the cause of many social problems. In this case, we see people from r/Christianity visiting and even converting sometimes. Good relations are only going to help the cause.

Antisocial behavior is easy. It's easy to piss people off, to harm relationships, lack consideration, forethought, planning and responsibility.

It might be time to splinter off a group that ridicules religion?

[–]konquererz 0 points1 point ago

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Perhaps so. The outlet is necessary else it will spill out anywhere. Its worth discussing.

[–]Spectro87 1 point2 points ago

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You're right. It should be about disrespect for all dogmatic, unsubstantiated, totalitarian worldviews.

[–]The-Jerkbag 1 point2 points ago

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Uhhh... Why?