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How I imagine Christians feel about the Bible... (i.imgur.com)
submitted 7 months ago by BigRelic
[–]Grasschoppa 74 points75 points76 points 7 months ago
They do it like Bernie
[–]TyphloshionsWrath 12 points13 points14 points 7 months ago
like Bernie, Bernie, Bernie, Bernie!
[–]EightBitRemix 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
Relevant
[–]loganowens 16 points17 points18 points 7 months ago
much more relevant
[–]Corperatefrog 18 points19 points20 points 7 months ago
The guy in the purple shirt fucking kills me every time it shows him dance, so funny.
[–]KingMotion 5 points6 points7 points 7 months ago
Dude is basically a live Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man.
[–]Baby_Wayne 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
[–]Murderous_Prime 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
This is what made me laugh the most.
[–]thatguyferg 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
You can't hate this dance, even the whitest of white drunk frat boys can do it.
[–]djpatientnathan 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
while wearing socks and velcro sandals.
[–]thatguyferg 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Exactly, in the 90's you would be called a shoobie, but now it's cool.
[–]Brainderailment 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
I like the dvd screen saver.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
also relevant
[–]sarahpuffy -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
I should be really mad that this is in my town.
[–]xfortune -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
Even more relevant
[–]loganowens 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
I wouldn't say that it was more relevant but it was more entertaining.
[–]Kraznor 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Exactly. These fine gentlemen put this whole thing on the map for me.
[–]lilkobes08 -7 points-6 points-5 points 7 months ago
Official white person dance.
[–]ghosthalcyon 8 points9 points10 points 7 months ago
No way, man. White men can't Bernie.
[–]myfaceisaclock 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
False. I am the white guy that can Bernie. We exist.
[–]om_nom_nom 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
...why did you try?
[–]jonuggs 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
Full disclosure: I love this video. It never fails to make me laugh, and one of my favorite parts is that the white guy STILL can't dance.
[–]HawaiianBrian 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
Dude looks so stiff and awkward.
[–]Rigochu 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago*
Excuse me?
[–]Murderous_Prime 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
ahem
[–]TheLighterDark 55 points56 points57 points 7 months ago
Holy shit. This literally just occurred to me...
There's hundreds of millions of people criticizing hundreds of millions of other people via the teachings of someone from a book they literally haven't fully read. Even though this joke is completely worn out by reddit, I'm just now realizing how preposterous this is.
[–]naker_virus 56 points57 points58 points 7 months ago
In fairness, most people accept things because they are told by someone rather than because they fully understand it. People accept gravity, but few truly understand it. People accept evolution, but few truly understand it. Atheists might be surprised that people accept god without fully understanding the religious texts associated with that deity, but atheists really should be surprised at all as they themselves accept things to be true that they do not fully understand.
[–]StubbornGoat 11 points12 points13 points 7 months ago
Nice way of putting it without calling everyone hypocrites and morons for not actually understanding what they believe.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
It's actually a terrible analogy. People accept evolution and gravity because they are scientifically proven and whether you understand it or not, a lot of people out there do understand it and would be able to explain it to you. The difference with the Bible is that it can't be backed by science or evidence and nothing in it can be proven. We feel the affect of gravity everyday. You can't show me a two-headed talking snake.
[–]StubbornGoat 5 points6 points7 points 7 months ago
I think you're missing the point of his comment dude, he's not declaring either one false he's simply stating that people blindly believe something they haven't actually taken the time to read over themselves and actually understand what they believe in.... sheesh dude such hostility.
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[–]StubbornGoat -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
Haha, that is such a joke dude, first you make the assumption that all atheists' lives revolve around science when in reality atheism is basically just people who don't believe in a god and think we got here some other way, e.g. aliens, mystical people, evolution, universe has just always existed in it's current form, etc. Secondly, you make some assumption that most atheists' are like super knowledgeable of science and that theists are not. I'd say that most of everybody (especially at a young age), don't really know anything about science and just regurgitate what they were taught in school are just listen to one thing some science professor or teacher taught them and just immediately believed it because heck, if they're teaching it in college and highschool it must be true right? NOT....
Hmmmm, I'd get into a debate with you over the existence of at least some sort of god but this isn't the correct thread. Oh and by default any person who says that the universe was created by a god also must resort to scientific evidence because obviously if the universe was created by a god then that god also should be able to be proved through science. Hence why I debate with scientific facts.
[–]napoleonsolo 5 points6 points7 points 7 months ago
Everyone is theoretically capable of duplicating the results of previous scientists (though practically speaking it may be difficult). That's why you have Chinese religion and Indian religion and African religion, but not Chinese science and Indian science and African science.
At the core of religion is "faith", at the core of science is actual evidence.
[–]IMGONNAFUCKYOURMOUTH 5 points6 points7 points 7 months ago
Plenty of atheists were duped into religion at first, so they fully understand that.
[–]andyinatl 5 points6 points7 points 7 months ago
I'm the opposite. I was an educated atheist who converted to Christianity. Lots of us out there.
[–]bgaddis88 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
would you mind sharing what converted you? I grew up a strong Christian and have doubts now and would like to hear more from the Christian point of view. All you ever get the oppertunity to hear on reddit is "Christians are so dumb, of course God isn't real or I would have seen him by now!"
[–]Incongruity7 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago*
Some people turn to religion for personal reasons, and for that same reason some people turn towards religion.
You said that on reddit all you hear is how Christians are dumb, but that is only because Christians, and most religions in general, require faith, or believing in something regardless of whether there's proof or not. Atheistic Redditors of this subreddit believe in things that only have evidence for it, and that's why you hear some of them call Christians "dumb."
One argument I hear from Christians about those who are no longer religious, is that they "didn't have a strong enough faith."
Really it just depends on your own way of thinking, and your answer to the question, "Do you EDIT: not /EDIT require proof to believe in something, or evidence?"
[–]DankBowser 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
And why wouldn't you? By that standard, it's equally desirable to believe in anything.
[–]MyriPlanet 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
You don't have to fully understand gravity to realize that shit falls. It's intuitive. Hardwired into our psyche.
You kinda do have to actually listen to what someone says to make them your spiritual guide, though.
[–]onceanartifact 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
Cheers
[–]defenastrator 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Also I fairness, scientific papers which are, about the nearest thing atheists have to religious text, take several orders of magnitude more time to understand then most if not all religious texts. I can for example read and to an extent understand the christian bible in a week or 2 of reading and study with no domain specific knowledge. where as for example the theory of evolution the base theory itself is about as much text as the bible and requires another several books worth of domain specific knowledge to have any hope of truly grasping most of it. An atheist would require a life time of dedicated study to understand all the scientific theories that surround there for lack or a better term "belief" on the level that most religious people understand the bible.
[–]el_chivo -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
People accept gravity
That's like saying that a corpse accepted death. I wonder what happen if I reject gravity. Evolution is going to keep going, you believe it or not. I guess you can say the same about a certain religion but the question is.. what religion? I guess is yours.
[–]naker_virus 14 points15 points16 points 7 months ago
You seem to have misunderstood the point. You could reject gravity in the sense that you could refuse to believe it is true. Doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong.
Let me try and explain it a different way:
I'm saying that people accept things to be true without fully understanding them. People accept gravity to be true without knowing the finer details of the theory of gravity. They haven't read books about it and know the formulas or the force exerted. They simply accept that the theory of gravity is true because they were told it by someone they trusted. In the same way, many people believe in god because they were told about god by someone they trusted. Most people that believe in a god don't fully understand the bible, or whatever other religious texts exist.
For example, I accept that light always travels at 300,000km/s but I accept it because that is what I was told. I wouldn't be able to explain to someone exactly why this is the speed. I wouldn't be able to explain in-depth when light behaves as a wave or as a particle because I simply do not understand it completely. Human beings simply accept what we are told in the majority of cases.
Do you behave and rule your life according to the speed of light? I can’t understand quantum theory but it doesn’t affect my life or how I behave with others. I can understand all about gravity but I know that if I jump I’m not going to escape from earth. But if I don’t understand my religion, should I act in all aspects of my life according to it?
[–]naker_virus 6 points7 points8 points 7 months ago
No I don't behave/rule your life according to the speed of light, but if you want to argue it from that perspective then let me ask you the following, do you understand every law that you are required to follow? If you don't understand every law, should you still behave in accordance with the law?
[–]el_chivo 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I can’t think of any law that I have to actively follow and don’t understand. Maybe some of those laws have a lot on complex ramifications, but I doubt that some of those ramifications include things that are supernatural or can be explained in logical terms.
[–]naker_virus 5 points6 points7 points 7 months ago
Well do you know every law? If you don't then there is at least some part of the law that you do not understand, and yet you are required to follow it. There would be many laws regarding taxes that you may not understand. How many laws have you looked up at the actual source and how many have you simply accepted to be true because you were told it was illegal?
[–]Incongruity7 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
There is a difference between not having knowledge of a law, and having knowledge of a law, and not understanding it.
Just because a person is ignornant about a specific topic, it doesn't mean that he or she doesn't understand it.
I don't know who told you about the law of gravity, but I learned of it in school, from the credible source of my teacher and the science textbook. I didn't hear it from just anyone.
Yes, there is a similarity between just memorizing facts from a science textbook and not understanding, and just memorizing the Bible/biblical ideology without understanding it.
The key difference is that the science textbook is backed with data and evidence that anyone can question and confirm as true or false, and Bible is said to be infallible/God's word.
[–]naker_virus 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
from the credible source of my teacher and the science textbook.
My point exactly. You were told it by someone you considered trustworthy. If a hobo on the street told you about gravity and gave you a book about it you would be unlikely to believe him.
The key difference is that the science textbook is backed with data and evidence that anyone can question and confirm as true or false
That would only be considered a difference to someone that would bother to confirm it. Your average person isn't going to be able to confirm whether something is true or not. They could try googling the answer, but the fact is that there are just as many pages that say the bible is true as there are that say evolution is true. And unless someone truly understands science, which the average person doesn't, they aren't going to be able to determine which is right and wrong.
[–]ReigninLikeA_MoFo 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
You, my friend, have just earned the "upvote on sight" tag.
I learned a lot about taxes whan I had a little business a few years ago. I try to lear as much as I can about what my money goes. If a law is being enforced directly to me I'm going to find out why! Don't you? I think that's the most normal thing! I'm still think that this comparision only works if I find a law that says "you have to pay this tax because a ghost told us to do it".
[–]Zecriss 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
"but I doubt that some of those ramifications include things that are supernatural or can be explained in logical terms."
Sounds like an argument that wouldn't be used for absolutely any set of rules that people don't fully understand.
Sorry, I really don’t understand 100% what you’re saying (I’m not very good at English and so many negatives confuses me). Are you saying that under what I said, I can dismiss anything saying that is not logical under my frame of reference?
Ah, sorry about the grammar, I was trying to use sarcasm. Having trust that things can be explained in logical terms isn't a very good reason to follow a set of laws. Someone could say "I'm sure God has a logical explanation for that set of laws that I don't fully understand."
An easy example of a law that doesn't make sense in the United States is the ban on Hemp cultivation. It's a flimsy extension of the ban on marijuana, which is a stupid law to begin with. Yet if you ask most people "Why is growing Hemp illegal?" they'd just shrug and say there's a logical reason behind it.
[–]goal2004 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
I believe naker_virus was trying to say that people accept the explanation for how gravity works, i.e. attraction via mass.
[–]el_chivo -2 points-1 points0 points 7 months ago
Again, that's irrelevant. As far my understanding goes, we (as humans) still have a lot of problems explaining gravity, but we're still attached on here earth.
[–]bigpoppastevenson 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
You're right about people relying on hearsay, but it's not always worth it to prosecute every avenue of doubt. What we accept in a particular case should depend on the stakes. If being wrong about the theory of evolution was likely to cause believers to waste their lives, it would be worthwhile for many uneducated believers to learn more about it, but it's possible to assume that evolution is an accurate description of life without taking any significant risks concerning your attentional and temporal resources. It's my understanding that the more closely a person adheres to the bible: the less feasible it is to hedge his bet.
Religion often takes the form of the easy-going weekend believer, but I think that it's the promulgation and fortification of Chinese whisper-style, baseless claims that do have the effect of wasting lives that people around here oppose, as I think they should.
I understand what you mean, but I don't think most religious people are wasting their lives even if they are wrong. If you take your average religious person from any religion, they are normally friendly loving people who try and be a good person. Unfortunately people's views are often biased through exposure to extremists.
If there is no god, then it isn't going to cost the religious people anything. They will have spent a life trying to be good or better versions of themselves and there is nothing wrong with that. Even if they go to church every Sunday, and it turns out there is no god, then they will still have gained something. They will have gained a community of close friends.
[–]bombaybicycleclub 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Bullshit, if you value truth at all you would not find it good for people to live in a state of delusion simply because it made them happier or better people. It's a matter of respect for yourself
[–]naker_virus 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
I value truth, but many people don't, and it isn't my duty or right to tell them what they should value. It all comes down to the expression "ignorance is bliss". Most people seem to value happiness over knowledge and truth. And if they want to do that then that is their right.
[–]bombaybicycleclub 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
It is their right until it leads to things like 9/11, murdering gays and so on.
[–]ShakeItTilItPees 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
Because they all are responsible for those things, right? You're sounding just as extremist as Westboro right now.
Haha, I don't know about that
[–]ZazuGrey -2 points-1 points0 points 7 months ago
I think a big difference, though, is that you don't have to understand gravity or evolution to see actual examples of it occurring. The same cannot be said about things like virgin births and resurrections, or any of the other biblical miracles, yet so many people assume them to be true. I know that when I was Christian, much of my doubts started when I really tried to understand the Bible, rather than just "taking things on faith."
[–]christmasbonus -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
what bullshit. It's not about accepting things you don't understand. Atheists accept gravity because there is mountains of evidence for it that has been derived through a critical look at reality as undertaken by the scientific method.
People accept the bullshit that is religion with zero, and I do mean, ZERO evidence. Your analogy couldn't be more apples and oranges if you tried.
I've always hated the apples to orange as a example as the incomparable they are after all both fruits. shouldn't it be something more like anti-matter to school buses
The point is that there are atheists that do not understand and have not examined the mountains of evidence that support the theory of gravity. And yet they accept it to be true. Why? Because they were TOLD it was true by someone with authority, someone they trust and see as credible. Perhaps it was a parent, perhaps a teacher or university professor.
People accept the bullshit that is religion with zero, and I do mean, ZERO evidence.
You clearly do not understand what evidence is then. There is plenty of evidence for religion. That evidence might be bad evidence, but it is still evidence. The bible is evidence. Might not be good evidence, or even evidence that you consider to be valid, but it doesn't change the fact that the bible exists and therefore it must be considered evidence.
[–]MsLippy 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
Thats why people shouldn't bitch so much about reposts. It's new to someone every time.
[–]Sifernos 6 points7 points8 points 7 months ago
And some of us just think, "oh, I've seen that before..." And keep browsing. No rage, no sadness, mild annoyance at worst.
[–]ConstipatedNinja 4 points5 points6 points 7 months ago
I'm glad that someone else feels like me there. Some reposts are annoying, but most garner a "meh" feeling followed by moving on for me. You're now tagged as a sensible redditor.
Most Americans haven't read the Constitution, or Declaration of Independence in full. What does that say about them?
[–]r00tdem0n 35 points36 points37 points 7 months ago
Bibles are like software TOS.
[–]puredemo 4 points5 points6 points 7 months ago
If you don't read them you end up in a human centipede?
[–]nypon 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
Or in hell. But i prefer your myth
[–]viper_dude08 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
Why do you have a link to Ormand lawn care?
[–]IMGONNAFUCKYOURMOUTH 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
Psh, who has a lawn anymore.
[–]robbinio 11 points12 points13 points 7 months ago
I pictured it more like this.
[–]jmarFTL 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Clearly the better "didn't read" gif IMO
[–]randomgun33 9 points10 points11 points 7 months ago
That is some sick Bernie. context: http://youtu.be/TRBLmogRL4c
[–]Jim_CE 4 points5 points6 points 7 months ago
Wtf am I watching? Is this a real thing, or people just laughing at themselves?
[–]mrmadagascar 4 points5 points6 points 7 months ago
It's harder then it looks
[–]Jim_CE 7 points8 points9 points 7 months ago
Lean back, wiggle.
[–]mrmadagascar 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
Well yeah, but still. If you've never tried it, video your first attempt, and I guarantee you will look even more ridiculous then the people who are "good" at it haha
[–]Jim_CE 5 points6 points7 points 7 months ago
I have no doubt I will look silly. I gots no swag.
[–]IMGONNAFUCKYOURMOUTH 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
smooth, glistening and good enough to eat.
[–]roboroller 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
I'm not sure if it's the intended outcome, but I actually think this is kind of adorable.
[–]bacondick34 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
DO DA BERNIE MAN!!!!!
[–]loofa 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
lol at the one white guy in that video
[–]meroin 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
This is trite shit.
[–]SuzeeQ 4 points5 points6 points 7 months ago
Its more like....how Atheists feel about "Christians" who don't read the Bible. Its an excellent point dont get me wrong. But I promise you this is not the attitude of a true Christian :)
[–]BigRelic[S] -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
I am totally aware of that. Thanks.
Also, the post is titled "How I imagine" and I am atheist. Maybe that just makes me look like a moron? Please don't misunderstand, I was just trying to be funny.
[–]SuzeeQ 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Nah, its a good point. And it was funny. I lol'd inside a bit :)
[–]coLdweezy 7 points8 points9 points 7 months ago
This sub reddit gives atheism a bad name.
I think this is the most ridiculous thing I've seen on this subreddit lol.
[–]candis2k6 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
That book is read more often that you think. Most members of my church had read it cover to cover multiple times. It would have been more unusual for a member NOT to have read it in it's entirety. Maybe casual Christians are different?
lol you're insane if you think most members of your church have read the bible "cover to cover multiple times"
[–]greym84 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago*
According to a professor at Bethel Seminary (St. Paul):
edit: he's an Old Testament scholar and graduate level hermeneutics professor
[–]jumpingpomegranate 6 points7 points8 points 7 months ago
I actually read the whole thing by the age of sixteen. I'm nineteen now.
I am the .001%
[–]pahncrd 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
Indeed, I've read it too. Holy hell is it boring in some parts.
[–]jumpingpomegranate 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
The entire book of Job... don't remind me.
[–]h00pla 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Psalms man, I got a third of the way through it and decided I'll skip it and finish it when I get through everything else.
I kinda liked Psalms. It's in my top four, and it has some good advice about just remaining tranquil and keeping up mental fortitude. At least in the beginning, till David becomes repentant.
At least in the beginning, till David becomes repentant.
About the time I started struggling to get through it.
[–]jumpingpomegranate 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Reading it made me wish I lived in the age of Christianity where the works weren't in a compiled collective yet and people just follow around Jesus on his "Love Campaign". Everyone was nicer till they continued killing each other.
I guess all I can do is what little good I can. Right?
[–]HawaiianBrian 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
And who writes a book where the prologue and epilogue are entirely done in symbolism? I mean, I totally lost the narrative there. And what happened to the main character? All that switching of POV...
It's been a few years since I even touched or looked at it.
The message itself is good, but the lengthy writing is cumbersome.
[–]ArisaMiyoshi 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
It was required reading for my grade school religion classes. I don't really remember when I finished reading the whole thing.
Ouch. Required reading turned me away from some great classics.
[–]Dendarri 7 points8 points9 points 7 months ago
Man, you imagine wrong. I mean, I get you're trying to be silly, but also I think r/atheism is full of really misled people...
If you go to a church service you know what it's about? Usually someone reads a passage from the bible followed by a discussion of it's context and meaning and how to apply it. Every Sunday. Some singing and prayers, maybe a report on various church projects, discussion of various needs of the community, etc, but yeah, it's all about the Bible. And what extra classes can you take? Bible studies. The Old Testament in 90 Days, Jesus and His Disciples, The Bible and Marriage, just to name a few. Where you read and discuss the Bible.
If you get someone who says they're a Christian just to say it maybe they wouldn't know the Bible, but this "Atheists know the Bible better" stuff is just self-aggrandizing bullshit. I mean, it really is. I thought you should know.
[–]napoleonsolo 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Atheists know more about religion than the religious.
"Sixty percent of Americans can't name five of the Ten Commandments, and 50% of high school seniors think Sodom and Gomorrah were married."
[–]BigRelic[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I've been to a church before and I understand. In no way do I think atheists know the Bible better than Christians, except maybe the contradicting "oh-look-Chirstians-are-so-stupid-hahahahahaha" parts. In all honesty, the GIF is hilarious.
Thank you for pointing this out. It needs to be higher up on the comment list.
[–]HawaiianBrian -6 points-5 points-4 points 7 months ago
Sure, but you're also assuming folks are paying attention during church service.
[–]jmarFTL 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
Why is this downvoted? It's true.
I grew up Catholic and we went to Church every Sunday. As I got into my teenage years I really started questioning my faith. What people told me about religion and what it did for them didn't match up with what I was getting out of it. So I started trying to figure things out.
The part of the church service that I actually thought had some merit was the homily. For those who never went to church, this is essentially the "sermon." The priest reads from the bible, then explains it in his own words to the congregation. Usually he applies it to modern life.
So after the mass ended, everyone would go outside and essentially talk. "Hey, hows it going? How's the wife and kids?" kinda stuff. Not in a smartass kind of way, but in a genuinely-interested kind-of way, I started mixing in "what did you think about the homily?" I wanted to see how these messages were actually affecting people. Everyone said that religion helped them in their life, so I wanted to see a real demonstration of that.
99% of those people looked at me as if I had six heads. Most of them said something like "Oh, it was... uh, good." A lot had trouble remembering what it was about. And memorably, one of them asked me what a homily was. My mom eventually asked me to stop doing that and it made me realize, along with many other things, that a lot of people's so-called "faith" is utter bullshit. The ones that take the bible study classes might be a bit more serious about their beliefs, but that's a sliver of the actual congregation.
And all of that's assuming it was a day that the homily actually made any sense. One of our priests clearly misinterpreted some pretty big things. He also made really big logical leaps/stretches. The other priest, much younger, I actually enjoyed. He connected one sermon to Pokemon, but actually denounced the priests who were calling them "demons" and all that. Earned major respect points from me for that. Of course, the senior priest didn't like how popular he was getting and asked the cardinal to transfer him about 6 months after he showed up.
[–]admiraawesome 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
this is more true then most ppl think
[–]i_am_new_there 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
I am Jewish and I have thoroughly read the Bible. In fact all religious Jews complete the entire Bible every year as it is split into 52 sections with each one read out loud to the congregation every Saturday. (ref to the old testament of course.)
not only that, but every fall Jews have a holiday called Simchat Torah which is a day long celebration of the annual completion of the Bible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simchat_Torah
[–]kanedal 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
-_-
[–]SuzeeQ 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
I would argue that people feeling like that are not true Christians....
Then you effectively have slashed the population of Christians down to probably less than a million...
And?
[–]cedargrove 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
It's wacky inflatable flailing arm man!
[–]intertron1 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
Reference*
[–]relevantfamilyguy 8 points9 points10 points 7 months ago
Well this is awkward. I guess I'll just being moving along...
[–]Murderous_Prime 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
don't leave! we love you.
[–]Addyct 4 points5 points6 points 7 months ago
Honestly, is there anyone alive of internet-using age in the world who didn't get the reference?
[–]intertron1 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
That and I figured there were people who got the reference but wanted to go watch it again. Not like you have to type all of "wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube men" to search for it but a link is convenient.
I can usually rely on reddit to link these kinds of things in comments.
[–]skinturtle 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
I thought atheism was supposed to be a non-belief in dieties and more rational about science. But I'm starting to discover that it is more about bigotry and bashing others and taking cheap shots.
Keep it going though because the more you do it...the more you make yourselves look like idiots. There's many more of us than you.
Just like religions have an activist branch, atheism does too -- there are active atheists who believe that religion is a dangerous delusion which requires work to be kept out of schools, government, and positions of influence. So yes, in a sense, one branch of atheism is about combating a position we find dangerous and capable of causing great suffering.
But for every atheist firebrand, there's some number of 'apatheists' -- people who technically don't believe in deities or whatever, but also don't care much about the division between groups or power struggles or anything.
Thanks for the generalization and the vague threat at the end of your post.
[–]dumbkid 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
Take a seat, you appear to be mad
[–]jmarFTL 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago*
Trust in rationality likewise carries a distrust of irrationality.
Pointing to bible passages as a justification of beliefs if those passages are taken out of context or directly contradict other passages is irrational. Likewise, it's irrational to take something like Leviticus 18:22 and hold that up as a reason for opposing gay marriage while NOT similarly using Leviticus passages for condemning people for wearing mixed fibers, planting two different types of crops on one field, or touching pigs.
Until atheists hear a rational argument for why one of these things is OK, and the other is not, most are going to assume that the Christian in question has not read the book in question. This is usually supported by their complete surprise and tongue-tied responses when you bring it up in-person.
Using a book for justification of beliefs when you have not read that book yourself is stupid, because it means you literally do not know what you believe. Making fun of stupid people is not persecution, nor is it something that solely atheists do. In fact, it's the basis for a lot of comedy. You'll find plenty of religious and non-religious stupidity being made fun of in all corners of the internet, not just here.
[–]skinturtle -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
Making fun of stupid people is not persecution, nor is it something that solely atheists do.
They certainly do it a lot of Reddit. But I understand why...it's because in your mind...we are nothing but evolved primordial protoplasm that washed up on a beach....came from nothing and are going nowhere. So I guess tact doesn't matter no does consideration because..."Hey...What's it going o matter in a hundred years?"
I see that you are trying to make your sentences as complex as possible...which is a slight sign of arrogance in this case. That kind of thing is really nothing to me however...do it up. You could have said the same thing without all that extra show of words (Look at me!...Look at me!....).
Leviticus applied to the tribes of Israelites in their time as did many other commands. Why? In order to set them apart from the other society's that were passing around all kind of pestilence and disease because of their dirty habits and careless sexual behaviour. They didn't have the medicine and preservatives we have now. Many things were not so much religious ritual as they were instructions of keeping clean and disease free.
What you are trying to insinuate looks to me like you've heard some argument like the one you are spouting off and are running with it without looking into the context yourself. Be careful with that...you may end up with a lot of egg on your face.
And btw...homosexual behavior is also condemned in the New Testament.
So do you you think you know more than a Christian does about the bible now Mr. Atheist?
Oh riiiiiiiiiiiight the New Testament. Yeah that Old Testament stuff was just for the Israelites back then, we don't need it anymore, right?
Whoops, give that New Testament another read-through, buddy. Again, I don't think you know what you actually believe.
Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place."
Luke 16:17 "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."
John 7:19 "Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law."
The New Testament is not any more or less valid than the Old Testament, they are both considered to be the words of an all-knowing, all-powerful being. Either you believe the bible is the infallible word of god or you do not. If you do not, then you cannot use it to justify your beliefs, as it's just as likely that one part of the law is now invalid as any other. For you to say "oh, that was because it was unclean," is you using your own judgement to explain god's will. And that's a big no-no in Christianity.
If the Bible is the word of god, and god is both omnipotent and infallible, then why would he include passages about instructions of keeping clean and disease free, when he knew that eventually much of that would later be rendered obsolete? Why hasn't he issued an addendum or something to clarify these parts of the bible that everybody gets hung up on?
If homosexuality was more about keeping people disease free, then why does it matter today when, as you say, we have modern medicine? What specifically about homosexuality leads to more disease than other types of sexual behavior?
Regardless, not all of Leviticus can be dismissed as instructions for keeping cleanly. How about 20:9 "Anyone who dishonors father or mother must be put to death. Such a person is guilty of a capital offense." Or 25:44 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves."
Let's jump around to other books. Hope you don't like overtime pay: "You have six days each week for your ordinary work, but the seventh day must be a Sabbath day of complete rest, a holy day dedicated to the LORD. Anyone who works on that day must be put to death." Exodus 35:2 .
Do you support capital punishment for adulterers? You should: "If any man takes a wife, and goes in to her, and detests her, and charges her with shameful conduct, and brings a bad name on her, and says, ‘I took this woman, and when I came to her I found she was not a virgin,’ … and evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones." Deuteronomy 22:13-14.
And hey it's not just the Old Testament. The New Testament doesn't like women all that much either. "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent." Timothy 2:11-2:12. Man, you must be a real drag at parties, telling all the women to be quiet.
A bit more about your post... I really did not set out to use "complex" sentences. This is English, it's not "arrogant" to use words as they are intended to be used. Your anti-intellectualism is showing. Anyways, I'll try to keep it to small words for you I guess. I'll stop using "irrational" and go with "idiots" like you seem to prefer instead.
And to answer your final question, yes, I do think I know more about the bible than many Christians do, and certainly more than you do. See, I actually read it when I was struggling with my faith, and it was the nail in the coffin that solidified the entire religion was a collection of myths, fables and superstition for an outdated time. I arrived at much the same conclusion you did about those Leviticus passages, that they were written by someone trying to keep a population under control. I saw the puppet strings, you might say. The difference between you and I is I'm not still on stage.
Your "be carefuls" and "keep going with that" are not scaring anyone. I stopped living in fear of mythical beings a long time ago. And I'm certainly not scared of an "idiot" spouting nonsense about some ancient text.
Here's a napkin, you missed some egg.
EDIT: Added in a few more choice passages
[–]passwordisGOD 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Funny how merely saying christians don't read the bible is bashing and a cheap shot.
[–]SwampCabbageMan 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
I was listening to this when i click the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rza1GBTx0ts I fuckin lost it.
[–]faceinthegrass 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
Those actually go very nicely together.
[–]Giant_Badonkadonk 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I started to dance with the gif because I was listening to this song whilst I opened it, it goes worryingly well.
[–]Arx0s 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
IRL ragdoll physics.
[–]treckooxx 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
stupid asshole
[–]A_Random_Durr 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
dr;l.. I'll use that more ;)
[–]Philymaniz 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Well alot of them didn't. They just take people's word.
[–]AlwaysTurning 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I love watching people get tased.
[–]blackfuse 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
LMFAO!
I smiled a bit when I saw the gif, then closed the tab and in a split second reread the title- I lolled hard, quite true.
[–]AcousticPoontang 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
for a second i was wondering if his head was back or forward xD
[–]SphereofWreckening 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Spoiler Alert: they all die
[–]alliha 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I was convinced this was a fat man slowly turning skinnier as he turned around.
Then I realized he was just wearing huge clothes.
[–]tavehicle 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I think it tends to be more like TL;DR
This is one of my favorite posts on the front page right now. I love the caption and the ridiculous dancing, they go so well together.
[–]Buggass 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
TL ; DR
[–]kragmoor 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKce8d_ffS4&feature=related thats intersting
[–]jcchurch 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Here's reality for you: Most Christians I know have read the Bible. The problem is that they believe it. Yes, even those too-absurd-to-be-true parts.
[–]ballaabdul 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
yessss, the Bernie!!!
[–]PoopingProbably 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
How does he not fall over? Although strange, that dance looks very impressive
[–]reddit_is_gay 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Group A. Didn't read.
Group B. Read the parts I liked.
Group C. You're taking that out of context!
[–]JankTurkey 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Funny, that's how I picture Slenderman dances.
[–]SuddenlySomeSwans 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I'm pretty sure I shot that guy in San Andreas.
[–]UnknownArchive 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
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[–]blowconfused 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Movin' like Bernie!
[–]igotmule 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I laughed until I hurt
[–]skytro 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
i havnt read it... but im 17... what kind of teenager wants to read this thing christian or not? lol
[–]Transhumanus 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Brain damage sucks..
[–]CiantGunt 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
more like "how i imagine Atheists feel about the Bible." would be more accurate.
[–]ghostfox1_gfaqs -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 months ago*
More like "TL;DR hate gay people and jesus saves"
why the downvotes?
[–]heartpuppiez -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 months ago
TL;DR god is real we say so lololol
[–]fripletister 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I'm so sick of these fucking threads. Honestly, is this really the best content we have to post and circlejerkedly distribute upvotes to? It's kind of funny once in a while, but a pic with this sentiment has been at the top of this subreddit multiple times in the last week already. Fucking pathetic.
[–]Blowjo 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
I saw a kid dancing like this at walmart and i started following him and started dancing with him.....turned out he wasnt dancing,....he just had down syndrome.
[–]BumblebeeLotus 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
[–]onlypostwhenmad 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
How many atheists have actually read Darwin's "On the origin of species"?
(Disclaimer: I have.)
[–]buh_dum_cha 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
I get what you're saying, but atheism technically has no scripture or doctrine, including Darwin. His work is an inspiration to many atheists, but not the basis for atheism. The Bible, on the other hand, is Christianity.
[–]onlypostwhenmad 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
Well said. Let me rephrase then: how many evolutionists on reddit have actually read "On the origin of Species" ?
[–]PointOfView -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
Didn't read lol. Didn't read lol. Didn't read lol. Match that up with his footsteps.
[–]AustinHiggs -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
This is how I imagine it:
[–]GoldenRing89 -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
All day I go through life without hearing about religion, until I get to reddit or facebook, and atheist are constantly preaching and stuffing their religion down my throat. STFU I h8 u
[–]HitokiriPsycho 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
"redditor for 43 minutes"
Cool trolling bro.
[–]acolossalbear 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
I've been on reddit for almost a year and I agree with him entirely.
[–]GoldenRing89 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Thanks, I signed up just to say it.
[–]Ubermensch65532ONE -8 points-7 points-6 points 7 months ago
That is how I always pictured Atheists... If you don't respect the beauty and the wisdom in the writings of the Bible you haven't read it. I mean yeah its all bullshit but regardless it is a masterpiece on every conceivable level.
[–]alexthelateowl 5 points6 points7 points 7 months ago
Masterpiece in terms of story and fables then of course. You would not fully understand certain old literature with out ever acknowledging the works of the bible. But there is a difference between despising it as a moral and life guide than appreciating it for its stories.
[–]courtingbats 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
As an atheist who has read most of the bible, I would have to disagree. The writings are good, but as a work of fiction. For me there are too many contradictions for it to be seen as non-fiction. I have some respect for the bible but that doesn't mean I have to believe in it's teachings.
[–]Ubermensch65532ONE 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Of course it isn't non-fiction. That isn't where the importance lies.
[–]courtingbats 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Right, but for many atheists i think the fact that it isn't valid ruins it's beauty. The writings are nice but they're still bullshit.
[–]Titties 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
I've read it. It is absolute bullshit.
See then you are either not intelligent or a liar. The stories are not true. The lessons are. Is For Whom the Bell Tolls bullshit? How about Nietszches Thus Spoke Zarathustra? The Canterbury Tales? The Odyssey? OMG THATS NOT REAL LOL NO VALUE LOL CARL SAGAN!
[–]UMAKEMYBRAINEXPLODE -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 months ago
u cant express ur imagination without a gif?
watafag.
[–]blueboxbandit 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
God gave us many gifs that we might use them.
[–]MsLippy -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
Do you think that's his party trick?
[–]Morningxafter -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
everybody do the Bernie!!
[–]gamerlen -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
XD I cracked up when I clicked that.
[–]SethGalifinakis -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
Thats funny!
I don't do it like Bernie, I did it hardstyle (Meblourne), and I read it.
[–]lemonscentedanthrax -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
That guys a friend of a friend.....hes a pretty cool dude
[–]Mr5306 -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
And how does the Muslims feel about the Koran? Oh no, WHAT HAVE I DONE!?, MAKE FUN OF THE KORAN!? I CAN FEEL ALL THOSE DOWNVOTES COMING!
[–]reservoireng 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
All muslims MUST recite the Quran in the five time a day prayers.
And believe it or not, there are millions of muslims who memorize the whole Quran, word by word. I don't think that can be said about the Bible or any book of that matter...
[–]Jansanmora 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Actually, I know several Christians who have memorized great amounts of the Bible. And I know many more who have actually read the Bible. In fact, I know more Christians who have read the Bible than ones who haven't. Christianity doesn't require Bible memorization, but that doesn't mean Christians are less informed of the Bible. It also doesn't help that the Qur'an is the size of the New Testament, roughly one third the length of the entire Protestant Bible. I don't personally know anyone that has memorized the entire New Testament, but I'm sure there probably are some.
Of course, since the day they are born they have to know that, good old fashion brainwash, uh, ah, i mean education.
[–]OG_Willikers -2 points-1 points0 points 7 months ago
Mah mamma sez tha bible iz true cuz tha bible sez the bible is true. Checkmate muthafucka!
[–]Anaslex69 -2 points-1 points0 points 7 months ago
Wtf did i just see
[–]Kilamonjaro -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 months ago
One word... EPIC
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