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[–]hey12delila 29 points30 points ago

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:(

[–][deleted] 52 points53 points ago

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My favorite one really straddles the line between hilarious cynicism and downright evil:

"Let me win your heart and mind or I'll burn down your hut."

[–]WarLorax 12 points13 points ago

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I've heard it said in Afghanistan that the soldiers were after hearts and minds: two in the heart, one in the mind.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points ago

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Did you buy it?

[–]CptCoatrack 13 points14 points ago

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That's a lot to carve on the side of a lighter.

[–]SquarishWheel 1 point2 points ago

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dang, thats deep

[–]Travisty 0 points1 point ago

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I understand that people have to make a living, but this type of shop just seems wrong. Makes me want to go there, buy everything, and just bury it.

[–]beergoggles69 12 points13 points ago

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Er, white people sell/display heaps of stuff belonging to dead people from other cultures.

Sometimes they even display the dead person themselves (mummies etc).

That 'stuffed Eskimo' joke on the Simpsons was based on what actually used to happen.

[–]Travisty 12 points13 points ago

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I disagree with the white man doing it, as well. Two wrongs don't make a right

[–]beergoggles69 6 points7 points ago

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All I'm saying is, if you've purchased an antique, you've bought something that belonged to a dead person that's probably been on-sold by a middle man for profit. I'm not saying whether it's wrong or right, it's just life.

[–]riyehn 4 points5 points ago

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They're actually almost all just replicas.

[–]Gentle_David 409 points410 points ago

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The best thing about that line is that it isn't like a lot of other 'clever' quotes where if you think about them more cynically, they don't make sense; this one really does make sense and ridicules the insane hatred and irrational discrimination we used to have against homosexuality (and still do to some extent). [Edited some bad word choices]

[–]NightHawk929 12 points13 points ago

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It's powerful, clever and it makes you think about morality.

[–]dollarglis 241 points242 points ago

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It also raises questions about a society that rewards violence and punishes love. So much for ye olde Judeo Christian morality...

[–]mtheoryx 16 points17 points ago

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Homophobia is not limited to any one religion.

[–]BlazeOrangeDeer 16 points17 points ago

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It's not even limited to religion, sadly.

[–]mtheoryx 5 points6 points ago

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That's also a good point.

[–]signorafosca 10 points11 points ago

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Look no further than tv standards. For some reason we can see horrible acts of violence and blood and guts and protruding broken bones....and yet, no boobs. Boobs are not ok. The thing about this standard that sucks the most is that we are teaching our kids that violence is a normal, healthy, expected occurrence, and sex is bad and wrong. We should be teaching the opposite.

[–]frenzyboard 66 points67 points ago

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Christ did say that those who live by the sword die by the sword. Violence begets violence.

[–]Tnuff 6 points7 points ago

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meaning: people who kill, will eventully die from some sort of killing

[–]frenzyboard 52 points53 points ago

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It's more than that though. He said it when Peter cut off that dude's ear. But a few verses back, he's actually commanded Peter to buy the sword in the first place. And a few verses back before that, he'd told this lovely metaphor about how he was here to bring a sword, and not peace. But even before that, he'd talked about how truth is like a sword. And when you follow it to it's eventual conclusion, I think Peter must have realized Jesus was telling him to go find something true. To hold to faith. If he had done that, if he hadn't bought an actual sword to go make war with the Romans, but rather, if he had had faith that Jesus was God, and that He was going to take care of everything, it would've turned out completely different.

Jesus saved Peter's life then, when he put that dude's ear back on and healed him. Otherwise, Peter would have been arrested and hanged with Jesus. Jesus' words were a double admonishment, because Peter hadn't been paying attention from the start.

When Jesus gave his great commission to his disciples, he'd told them not to bother carrying weapons or even food, because God would provide along the way. His message from the start, and Peter knew this, was to teach, not to make war.

[–]Tnuff 1 point2 points ago

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okay okay face

[–]LoseSmallMind 25 points26 points ago

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I'm struggling to find the relevance in your comment.

[–]frenzyboard 22 points23 points ago

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For the most part, I'm agreeing with dollarglis, although I'm trying to point out that the results of said hypocrisy aren't unaccounted for by the religious texts Americans say they hold dear.

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[–]Max_Quordlepleen 60 points61 points ago

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Why? Why does every discussion on Reddit have to turn into an anti-theist bandwagon?

[–]ChuckFindley 15 points16 points ago

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I agree with Bob McDoodlie. There is nothing wrong with religion, maybe the problem is with those who teach it?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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No, the problem is people who misinterpret the message, just like any other school of thought.

Some of the smartest and most insightful men I have talked to were Catholic priests.

And, no, I don't believe in a god.

[–]ChuckFindley 2 points3 points ago

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An excellent point IntegrateThis. One night after class, I spent a good portion of time talking to my education philosophy professor about theology and religion (it was after having a discussion about is there such a thing as free will? If so what is it?). He recommended a couple of books to me that I should read. The first book is What Jesus Meant and the second book he recommended was Awareness. If you are interested in finding out a little more, I would recommend reading these two books.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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I'll definitely give those books a read. Thanks for the suggestions.

[–]ChuckFindley 1 point2 points ago

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No problem amigo. Let me know what you think.

[–]trauma_queen 9 points10 points ago

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Don't you think it's a bit of a sweeping generalization to just say that "Christians today bear no resemblance to Christ's teachings"? There are many Christians out there who are doing good work, are kind people and truly do spread love around. It's just that the radicals are the loudest and are SO easy to see and ridicule.

[–]fodrox04 3 points4 points ago

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No evidence to support that in the least, but there is insurmountable evidence to disprove his existence completely. That being said, it doesn't detract from things 'he' tried to teach. Christianity is a completely different religion than it was 1500 years ago; it's the natural progression of things to change to meet the needs of the time albeit painfully slow.

To generalize a group of people like that is extremely offensive to a lot of people. I know plenty of Christians who follow Christ's teachings. It is the ones that use religion as a crutch for their own bigotry that give the rest of the good people, who believe in god deeply, a very bad name, and it's Atheists like you that give the rest of us a bad name.

Funny how coins work. You know, two sided and what not.

[–]LettersFromTheSky 6 points7 points ago*

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It also raises questions about a society that rewards violence and punishes love.

I gave up on my species

When you're born in this world, your given a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America your given a front row seat.

[–]JoseFernandes 15 points16 points ago

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Sadly the tickets for the grammar show were sold out.

[–]LettersFromTheSky 1 point2 points ago

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Well played. I woke up just a bit ago - I'll fix it :)

[–]SpyCatcher 1 point2 points ago

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that video made my night!

[–]LettersFromTheSky 0 points1 point ago

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Glad I could help!

My favorite part is when he goes:

"We gave it all up for primitive superstition - primitive shit - an invisible man in the sky watching everything we do making sure we don't do the wrong thing, and if we do he puts us in hell and we burn forever. That kind of shit is very limiting for this brain we have. So we keep ourselves limited.

Hit the nail on the head with that rant. It also reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." Lucius Annaeus Seneca - Roman Philosopher.

[–]akbc 2 points3 points ago

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it's okie to show people getting blasted to shreds on prime time movies, but show one nipple slip...

[–]asdf7890 0 points1 point ago

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I'm not theist or theologian, so I could be completely wrong here, the "rewarding violence" in the current western form is a relatively recent Christian thing, not stemming back from the religion's earlier times or its prior Jewish roots.

While the Torah and Old Testament are pretty hot on the smiting of individuals who disagree with God and God itself committing genocide by flood, glorifying violence in the form of full scale war in the name of God and validated by God is something that traces back to more recent, post New Testament, times specifically the period of the crusades.

[–]Twerty 4 points5 points ago

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Perhaps because in regards to Vietnam, everyone came out a fair amount more cynical...

[–]LettersFromTheSky 12 points13 points ago

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insane hatred and irrational discrimination we used to have against homosexuality

Buddy, I don't know what country you live in but here in the US - it's still going strong. It's 2012 and only 7 states allow Same Sex marriage (the same states which are liberal).

Don't believe people in this country don't have hatred and irrational discrimination against gays?

I invite you to watch a 2007 documentary called:

For The Bible Tells Me So (trailer)

Fear does terrible things to a society

Synopsis.

I highly recommend watching it.

[–]jeffdn 4 points5 points ago

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Plenty of liberal states don't have it. See California.

[–]McBurger 1 point2 points ago

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Saved. And I'll be watching later. While eating shrimp.

[–]LettersFromTheSky 6 points7 points ago

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While eating shrimp.

I find it ironic that shrimping is very popular in the south. Classic example of "we're going to pick and choose the passages in the bible we want to listen to and force that down other people's throats"

[–]signorafosca 0 points1 point ago

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I see your point and totally agree but I think the first commenter was just saying we're making progress.

[–]I2obiN 1 point2 points ago

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I think it shows the fallibility of black and white rules and of law in general.

So much of it is based on how people feel about an issue as opposed to the facts.

It somewhat saddens me that when it comes to matters like this, after all humanity has been through, people still can't put aside their emotions when it comes to these matters.

[–]danc0nia 1 point2 points ago

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@Gentle_David: it also points out the absurdity of rewarding people for hatred and violence.

[–]Quazifuji 3 points4 points ago

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You don't need to use the @ here. It's implied you you're talking to because your comment is a reply to his post.

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[–]gamerlen 65 points66 points ago

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Yeah, it drove me nuts during the Bush years that they'd discharge guys for coming out of the closet at a time when we were hurting for soldiers so badly that they waved the rules about not letting felons enlist. >_>

So you could have beaten your girlfriend into the hospital or stolen a car... but not had sex with another guy. ._.;

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[–]gamerlen 48 points49 points ago

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Agreed. I have nothing but respect for people who joined the armed forces out of a sense of duty, or because they want to protect their loved ones, or because they want to learn discipline... but too often I see some jackass in my gas station at night waving his dog tags in my face and screaming "WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN ID MOTHERFUCKER! I WAS IN EYERACK YA IGNORANT FAGGOT!".

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points ago

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On that note, I think it's absolutely ridiculous that we ask 18 year old boys to die for their country when we won't even let them have a beer to take the edge off.

[–]gamerlen 23 points24 points ago

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Yeah, but that's hardly the most idiotic thing the United States has done. There was once a push by a special interest group to get violent video games (anything M rated) restricted to anyone who wasn't in their thirties or so.

... So yeah, you could join the military and kill a real human, get drunk off real beer, rent or buy a real car, and purchase a real gun... but you couldn't play a game where you did that in a fictional setting. Thankfully this bill fell through without so much as an eyeblink.

[–]looney82 7 points8 points ago

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I'll give you that the law states 21, but I've never seen a soldier denied a 6 pack at the gas station on post. I actually watched a private that was clearly under 21 (the kid looked like he was 15) buy two cases of Natty Ice, no mention of ID. The most important part is that their leadership makes sure they aren't doing anything dumb. When I was a squad leader, and more recently a platoon sergeant, I would tell my soldiers that were underage that I had no problem with them drinking in the barracks or at a fellow soldier's house, but if they got busted doing something dumb or drinking somewhere else, I would fry them. If you're in your room and you're drinking some beers, who cares.

[–]niceville 0 points1 point ago

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I disagree on grounds that, just as most 18 year olds aren't prepared for military duty, most are not prepared for alcohol. The difference is that the military has a selection process that ensures applicants are prepared to go into combat (as least as prepared as anyone can be) whereas that would not be the case for your generic 18 year-old buying alcohol.

Also, it makes it much easier to keep out of high schools when it's illegal for everyone. If you don't believe me then look at colleges where only half the population is allowed to buy alcohol but seemingly everyone has access to it. As an aside, if you're in college then there's a much better chance you're ready for alcohol.

[–]i-poop-you-not 2 points3 points ago

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You must respect Captain America.

[–]gippered 1 point2 points ago

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You say this like Bush was responsible for DADT...

[–]gamerlen 3 points4 points ago

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Nah, just that it happened during the 2000-2008 stretch.

[–]kickstand 1 point2 points ago

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He didn't create the policy, but he was responsible for enforcing it during his terms.

[–]matteod 1 point2 points ago

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completely agree. if someone is a good soldier it shouldn't matter whether they are gay or straight.

[–]Cozen 21 points22 points ago

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For anyone who is wondering this is the grave of Leonard Matlovich, a man who was famous for standing up and declaring "I am a homosexual" on the cover of Time magazine. He later died of HIV/Aids.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Matlovich

[–]DannyFathom 183 points184 points ago

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Powerful..

[–]NMcAdams 165 points166 points ago

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[–]joetromboni 82 points83 points ago

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hairyassandballs and hitlersshit below comment threshold...that`s odd

[–]Captain_LargePoop 13 points14 points ago

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Here I was thinking they were fine community members

[–]Oraukk 1 point2 points ago

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You'd be surprised, Captain

[–]Kni7es 22 points23 points ago

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ITT: Reddit does not know how to ignore the trolls. Again.

[–]John_Barleycorn 62 points63 points ago*

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Whose grave is this? Why is the name cropped out? If he's proud enough to put this on his tombstone there is no reason to crop out the name.

ETA: Changed who's to whose.

[–]RoboLovah 82 points83 points ago

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Matlovich

"Matlovich's tombstone at Congressional Cemetery is on the same row as that of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover."

[–]matsky 56 points57 points ago

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His headstone has upvote/downvote arrows.

[–]kragniz 12 points13 points ago

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Lies! He has two upvote buttons.

[–]flume 9 points10 points ago

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Am I blind? What's the second one? Or do you just mean the upside down one?

[–]NattG 2 points3 points ago

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I think it's because they both look orange.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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Both are pink, I believe. Pink triangle.

[–]BitchesLove 12 points13 points ago

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Fucking cheater

[–]happyviolentine 0 points1 point ago

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the only sad thing i could think of is that gay people in Germany (during Hitler) had to wear pink triangles on their coates to "identify". But i don't know if they had to wear them on the street or in the concentration camps.

[–]a_tad_mental 2 points3 points ago

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Thank you for this information. I was wondering if it was real only to find out this person was a brave and remarkable person in terms of equal rights. It's sad that I didn't know about him given I'm from states (SF Bay Area).

[–]kickstand 1 point2 points ago

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Also on Find a Grave

[–]doihavetoregister 35 points36 points ago

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His headstone doesn't actually have his name on it.

[–]starphish 17 points18 points ago

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"His tombstone, meant to be a memorial to all gay veterans, does not bear his name."

[–]kickstand 1 point2 points ago

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[–]__circle 9 points10 points ago

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Who's

You want "whose".

[–]John_Barleycorn 5 points6 points ago

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Thanks, you're right.

[–]kewlfocus 1 point2 points ago

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It's in Congressional Cemetery. Which is actually a pretty good dog park as well. Used to take our dog there all the time. It was a way to make money and upkeep the park. There are some cool tombstones there, including John Phillip Souza's. I did always feel weird with the dog peeing and pooping on J. Edgar Hoover's tombstone. This one always got me though.

[–]mesosorry 7 points8 points ago

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[–]blessmehaxima 0 points1 point ago

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I respect that man for keeping his composure in front of Mitt Romney. If that was me and someone had disrespected me so blatantly, I wouldn't have been so nice about it.

[–]underscorex 34 points35 points ago

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Leonard Matlovich is a goddamned American hero. He was discharged from the USAF for being openly gay. He then sued the Air Force to get his job back. Not for money. Not for revenge. He sued the U.S. military to have the right to serve the country he loved.

He lost.

He embodied the principles of honor, service, and duty that so many who wear that uniform only claim to uphold. Dude is a stone hero in my book.

[–]jlxn 1 point2 points ago

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I agree!

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[–]Ragnrok 45 points46 points ago

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And thanks to gays in the military, straight people like me will be aided in looking fucking fabulous when leaving base to go to a bar. Queer eye for the military guy. Gonna kick ass.

[–]Deyster 37 points38 points ago

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I don't understand the discharge from army thing due to sexual preference. If said person is not doing the sexual act with other soldiers while on duty, what's the fucking problem with the sexual preference?

You know that someone from CircleJerk will come here and say "SO GRAVE".

[–]Lurid138[S] 20 points21 points ago

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[–]grandballoon 18 points19 points ago

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From what I've heard, there is (or rather was, I assume it's been removed now) a box on one of the many forms you fill out when entering the military asking if you are gay. If you say no, but are then revealed to have lied, they kick you out for lying on your forms. Which is really just a bullshit way to kick you out for being gay.

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[–]Kni7es 19 points20 points ago

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Well, that's the Navy for you.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points ago

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Yeah....the same people who hate gays are the ones who say it's a choice, so they kind of set themselves up for that loophole.

[–]Catalyst6 4 points5 points ago

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"When did you realize that you were gay?"

"Right now. /wink/"

[–]notmynothername 2 points3 points ago

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The whole point of DADT was that the military wouldn't directly ask you about your sexual orientation as a matter of policy (though there were obviously a lot of ways for them to find out). Before DADT, homosexuality was explicitly banned. Forms did ask about it, and you would be rejected for saying that you were gay or discharged for being gay if they found out later. There was no protection for gay federal employees at this time. It would be 100% legal for say, the treasury to fire someone for being gay (it's still legal for private employers, where the local/state law allows). So the military wouldn't need some kind of strange loophole.

[–]rmm45177 1 point2 points ago

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What if you say Yes? Do they kick you out for being gay?

[–]jlxn 2 points3 points ago

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If you said yes, you were rejected and barred from ever enlisting again. If you were already in the military and you stated you had sex with someone of the same biological sex. You were discharged and barred from ever enlisting again.

[–]jlxn 0 points1 point ago

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From what I've heard, there is (or rather was, I assume it's been removed now) a box on one of the many forms you fill out when entering the military asking if you are gay.

IIRC when I joined. The question was, "Have you ever had sex with someone of the same biological sex." DADT removed that question.

[–]phantomneko 3 points4 points ago

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Dude, how are you on Reddit all the way back in 1996?

[–]johndongson 8 points9 points ago

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So grave.

[–]grandballoon 54 points55 points ago

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Yes, "discharge" is a term that can relate to STI's. Hysterical.

Here's something that's not so funny. This man, and thousands like him, joined the armed services either because they genuinely believed they were going to help defend the country and people they loved, or because their government gave them no choice. Either way, they went in scared for a lot of reasons, probably not the least of which was the knowledge that if it were ever revealed that they love people of their own sex, they would be ostracized, court marshaled, very possibly threatened or hurt, and then tossed unceremoniously out of the organization for which they had risked everything. Imagine being born into a military family. Imagine growing up with a father, and grandfather, and uncles, and cousins who all entered the service. Imagine turning eighteen and signing up yourself. Imagine the pride you would see in the eyes of your family. Imagine the fear of shipping out to one of the most controversial and deadly wars in American history. Imagine fighting alongside men that you knew would kill for you, and who you would kill for. Imagine watching those men die. Imagine standing before your commanding officers as they ask you whether or not you're gay. Imagine being dishonorably discharged from the army your family has served for generations. Imagine breaking that line. Imagine returning to a country that hated you doubly, for your involvement in an unpopular war, and for just who you happen to love.

Not so funny anymore, is it?

The people in here who decide it's clever to make little jokes about the disgracing of men and women who did what they did because they cared about other humans beings disgust me. You should disgust yourselves. It's not funny. It's not original. Nobody think you're cute. Nobody likes you. You are pissing on the memory of some of the bravest and most unfairly treated people in Americans history. Don't try to rationalize it. It's not just a joke. It's a fundamental error in your ability to respect your fellow human beings. This man was bigger than you will ever be. Go piss up a rope, you unfunny little shits.

[–]goodguysteve 1 point2 points ago

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and deadly wars in American history

Well I'm not sure about that. But really good post it must be said. These people deserve respect.

[–]grandballoon 0 points1 point ago

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I thought the same thing as I was writing it; it's true that Vietnam didn't come close to WWI, WWII or the Civil War, but it's still the third deadliest, according to wikipedia. Also, I don't think that counts soldier suicide, which (and I'll admit I'm speculating here) would probably have been higher than WWI or WWII since it was so unpopular.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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Holy shit... some of the replies you are getting astound me. Many of us really are just taller children.

There is a time and place for jokes, but perhaps those who serve in wars should be joked with, not at. They deserve a laugh more than the rest of us. These kind of jokes though... in this post... these are insults.

[–]CaptainYoshi 1 point2 points ago

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"There is a time and place for jokes, and that is when I don't find them offensive."

[–]DannyFathom 3 points4 points ago

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You deserve a /r/Bestof shot taken. Idk how to do it though. Thank you for this comment.

[–]angryvet 14 points15 points ago

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he served his country. May he rest in peace.

[–]FireJunkie 2 points3 points ago

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I think I've seen this before..

searching...

There it is

And also, this little gem of a comment

[–]ponyprankster 4 points5 points ago

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Homophobia is so gay! (and old!!)

[–]s1403 0 points1 point ago

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[–]alragusa 4 points5 points ago

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Bigger picture:

Americans seem to approve more of paying fellow citizens to go around the world telling people how to live or killing them, than approve of fellow citizens having same sex partners whom dont affect them in the least.

[–]Meghamoon 2 points3 points ago

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Teared up. Very sad, but dreadfully and horrifically true :'(

[–]Shiroke 11 points12 points ago

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ಠ_ಠ

This man is a hero.

[–]JewishIGuess 3 points4 points ago

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I don't get it. Is it the ring?

[–]Shiroke 1 point2 points ago

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There isn't anything to get. It's a simple picture of a salute for a brave veteran.

[–]Mozzy 1 point2 points ago

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What do you disapprove of?

[–]shabufa 1 point2 points ago

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i think it's an intense-serious-face in this context

[–]vorpalsword92 34 points35 points ago*

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Every time this photo is posted on the internet, dipshits* always make bad jokes about it. Reddit unfortunately seems to be no exception.

[–]Purplebuzz 132 points133 points ago

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While I appreciate your sensitivity towards equality for homosexuals, your use of the word retard shows a lack of it for other groups.

[–]booooooooooooosh 122 points123 points ago

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HOMOSEXUALS ARE RETARDED

in their strive for equal rights.

[–]booooooooooooosh 71 points72 points ago

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Before I get downvoted to hell for that, the pun is an ironic play on the word "retarded", whereas in the sense I used it literally means delayed in their path for equal rights. Not that they're stupid for trying to achieve it.

[–]prose-before-hoes 44 points45 points ago

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That joke is way too clever for these retarded Redditors

[–]Adm_Chookington 12 points13 points ago

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They are retarded in getting the joke. I find many of their responses quite niggardly.

[–]Hibno 2 points3 points ago

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I got the joke and I enjoyed the word play. Your explanation was even funnier. For a second I thought you were some kind of novelty account whose schtick is to make a joke and them immediately follow it with a dry, wordy explanation.

[–]Pop_Off 0 points1 point ago

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That's not ironic, just literal.

[–]Greasy_Doug 1 point2 points ago

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Very clever but walking a fine line where at first glance it appears to be hate crime... A large % of people may only read it once and form the wrong opinion about you.

[–]cephaloponics 1 point2 points ago

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I don't think that is what hate crime means.

[–]vorpalsword92 11 points12 points ago

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you're right

[–]hitlersshit 6 points7 points ago

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Now you're discriminating against dipshits.

[–]naker_virus 3 points4 points ago

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The same could be said for virtually every insult.

[–]Yst 11 points12 points ago

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virtually every insult.

Hardly. Many insults are mere profanity. Profane because they use words which evoke taboo subjects. Not because they construe the subject as belonging to a disparaged social group. Who do the following obscenities disparage, if virtually all insults show a lack of sensitivity to a minority group?

Asshole
Cuntface
Dickhead
Douchebag
Fuckhead
Jackass
Shithead

And "people who defecate" or "people who have genitalia" is not a valid answer. These are insults essentially because they evoke concepts you're not supposed to mention in polite company. I don't buy that anyone who wishes to swear needs to belittle one group or another to do it.

[–]GaiusSensei 4 points5 points ago

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Their insults are as empty as their soul.

[–]jlxn 1 point2 points ago

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Leonard Matlovich, google him.

[–]anonymepelle 1 point2 points ago

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I fail to see how beeng gay can have any relevance to weather or not you should be aloved to serve in the military.

When i was in the Navy one of my fellow artillerist were a lesbian, and she did better work than most other soldiers i worked with.

[–]looney82 1 point2 points ago

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I'm an Infantryman in the Army, and I'm currently a drill sergeant at a mixed-gender BCT. The biggest concern I've seen in the Infantry isn't gay soldiers being a problem, it's the less informed soldiers that are in the ranks, from the top all the way down to the brand new privates, being closed minded. If, as a squad leader, I have to make sure one of my soldiers isn't being harassed by anyone, I'm wasting a lot of time and energy that could be better spent elsewhere. In a BCT environment, I know we have gay soldiers. They don't show up day 1 and say "Hey Drill Sergeant, I'm gay." But it's not hard to pick them out either, especially after a few weeks. The other soldiers in their platoon don't have a problem with them, and even if they did I wouldn't say anything to the gay soldier. It's just a mess and it'll take a while to figure it all out.

[–]UrbanGuerrilla 1 point2 points ago

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The military also discriminates against felons, as a felon i tried to join the military and even though my case was a juvenile conviction. They wouldn't let me join. But its okay because that is what the French Foreign Legion is for.

And people wonder why the USA imprisons more of their population than any other nation? Because you can get a felony charge so easy, they practically give felony's out. And not only that once you are a felon getting a place to live, and a job is near impossible, so most felons just go back to prison because they dont want to be homeless.

[–]Abreastwithadam 0 points1 point ago

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How is it easy to get a felony? You pretty much have to know what you are doing could be a felony. Then go ahead and commit that felony. Then you have to be caught. It doesn't sound so easy to me. I guess I am a mostly law abiding citizen though.

[–]UrbanGuerrilla 0 points1 point ago

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I mean the US department of justice practically hands them out. It is easy to get a felony because for crimes that were once misdemeanors it seems more and more are being changed to felony's. The private prison industry is big business. Practically free labor in private prisons means corporations can make HUGE profits.

[–]Abreastwithadam 0 points1 point ago

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Hands out felonies for committing a felony though, right? I never been convicted of one, maybe I am just one of the lucky ones?

[–]ginger_mcfreckle_vag 1 point2 points ago

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Did he want that on there??

[–]milagr05o5 1 point2 points ago

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Don't know about you reddit, but this made me sad. It rang true, and it points to cruelty and unfairness, which is how some humans choose to treat other humans. R.I.P., brave soldier - may your deeds and choices be remembered.

[–]Jonk1967 1 point2 points ago

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Ironic, yes. Sad, yes. But also yes is that it is relic of a now defunct policy. Homosexual, lesbian and bisexual citizens and residents may now openly serve in the armed services. This is just a reminder of mistaken beliefs from the recent past. I had the honor to serve my nation as a non-commissioned officer in the Army for most of my adult life, as did my father, grandfather, great grandfather, and great great grandfather. We all have stories of intolerant policies we were glad to see go. I seved with fine soldiers who had to hide their orientation. My father remembers being advised to leave my half Cherokee mother to save his career. My grandfather told of black combat veterans being arrested for using the white gate at the Gulfport shipyard as they came off transports from the combat theater. My great grandfather was forced to stand by while one of his best combat leaders was reassigned to a labor battalion during WWI because he was half Mexican. We all read the letter from my great great grandfather to his mother, saying that the War department (now DoD) refused to allow him to be commissioned from the ranks, because he ws a Jew, and officers had to be able to fulfill the duties of a chaplain if none were assigned. All of these policies have since gone the way of chattel slavery and child sacrifice for the harvest season. Remember them to prevent recurrence, but don't dwell there.

[–]banway22 1 point2 points ago

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[–]funkymonkeyq 1 point2 points ago

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wow, what a great quote to demonstrate an absurd reality. thanks for that

[–]jigby61 1 point2 points ago

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Well now I'm bummed out :(

[–]civilian11214 1 point2 points ago

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I hope this gets better someday. We are all just people.

[–]cypressgreen 1 point2 points ago

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Speak for yourself. I, personally, have tiger blood.

[–]Synergythepariah 0 points1 point ago

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Charlie?

[–]Sleepybutt 0 points1 point ago

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Some day? DADT has officially been repealed. Furthermore, on the base that I live on currently- there are gay people who weren't hiding anything before the repeal and no one gave any fucks.

[–]rottenjohnny 1 point2 points ago

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Very cool! (Although I envisioned more flowers…)

[–]TheBluePanda 7 points8 points ago

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FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD:

[–]CaptainYoshi 2 points3 points ago

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Well, the point of the Army is mostly to kill people, not have sex with them.

[–]bitcheslovecheezwhiz 0 points1 point ago

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Mostly.

[–]PickledDreams 3 points4 points ago

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SO GRAVE

[–]expediance 2 points3 points ago

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Wow, I've never seen this before.

[–]Molassesfatts 1 point2 points ago

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repost every month for front page :|

[–]everydayimstudyin86 1 point2 points ago

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A beautifully stated summary of what is wrong with our country.

[–]bob-leblaw 1 point2 points ago

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Woke up, great mood. Read this, sad. Reddit.

[–]CaptainFuzzyPickles 1 point2 points ago

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“War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other.” - Niko Bellic

[–]2AXP21 1 point2 points ago

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I feel awful but I giggled at "discharge".

[–]IV-65536 1 point2 points ago

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Gay people in the military would actually be better. Wouldn't you fight 10x hard when someone you love is also risking their lives?

see: Sacred Band of Thebes

[–]kaskrinj -3 points-2 points ago

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Hit me hard man..

[–]rhinotoe 0 points1 point ago

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This is a great picture. I have been lucky enough to see this grave stone in person in one of the cemeteries in D.C. If i recall correctly i believe one of our presidents who was homosexual is buried a couple plots down past this gay Vietnam war vet and he has his gay lover buried next to him. Pretty interesting stuff to learn what they don't teach in school.

[–]BeastAP23 0 points1 point ago

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Quesstion, if it had been a male soldier having sex with as female would he havd been discgarged?

Female soldier that is

[–]DroodEdwin 0 points1 point ago

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I hope it wasn't one of the ones he killed

[–]Almsivi 0 points1 point ago

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Does anyone else fine it ironic that the military used to give gay men discharge for being gay? Hypocrites.

[–]Pop_Off 0 points1 point ago

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How is that ironic?

[–]PhonyUsername 0 points1 point ago

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Something that doesn't sit right with me about seeing politics/wars on gravestones.

[–]Mozzy 0 points1 point ago

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It doesn't have to sit right with anybody but the person buried there.

[–]PhonyUsername 0 points1 point ago

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Could be that they chose the words on their own gravestone, which is wierd to me as well because your gravestone is for everyone else, not the dead person inside because they are dead.

[–]biggiepants 0 points1 point ago

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Passive aggressive gravestone.

[–]anthony6627 0 points1 point ago

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666th comment I am satan

[–]SomeAsianGuy 0 points1 point ago

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When I was in reddit, they gave me an upvote for reposts and a downvote for an original one.

[–]BettyMcBoob 0 points1 point ago

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Wow. Any witty comment is just going to be lame

[–]tomma101 0 points1 point ago

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you think he would be happy to receive a discharge,

[–]gamerlen -3 points-2 points ago

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Rest in peace you fabulous soldier. -salutes-

[–]bowery_boy 0 points1 point ago

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Id like to see the deceased dates of life. Don't ask dont tell and the discharge policy didn't exist until the mid 1990s. Prior to that there was not a real policy, my grandfather said that during ww2, you knew who the gays were in your unit, and you just didn't Stand next to them in the shower... That was all.

[–]looney82 0 points1 point ago

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I have no way to cite this, but after the Vietnam war when they were trying to downsize the Army, they would classify a discharge for a known-homosexual soldier as a mental issue. During the 80s and 90s, when we weren't fighting a war that involved the entire Army, a ton of guys were getting out with mental issues cited on their DD214 for being gay. The Army is just like the police, if they say that you did something, then they're right. I've watched one of my own soldiers get kicked out for financial problems because our CSM really didn't like him on a personal level. He gave him multiple Article 15s with little proof of any wrong doing, then used those to show a pattern of misconduct to chapter him out. I fought it the entire way, but a SSG holding a platoon sergeant position isn't enough to change a CSM's mind.

[–]UnknownArchive 0 points1 point ago

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Anyone seeking more info might also check here:

title comnts points age /r/
Not all theists are responsible for this, but all people responsible for this are theists. 200coms 755pts 3mos atheism
A gay Vietnam veteran 109coms 761pts 10mos pics

source: karmadecay

[–]godofallcows 0 points1 point ago

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I am pretty sure you have missed a shit ton more of this post, it is a very popular repost.

[–]UnknownArchive 1 point2 points ago

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it's pretty popular outside reddit too. It comes along often on lgbt sites too

[–]SpartaWillBurn 0 points1 point ago

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A couple weeks ago, someone posted something about the Vietnam war and a soldier. The very first comment was "how we shouldn't have been there" and how " we were killing innocent soldiers" Now that this guy was gay, he is the bravest man ever. And everyone is praising him. Hypocrisy here is ridiculous.

[–]Taleron 0 points1 point ago

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You can honor the people who served without glorifying the conflict they served in. I can't say I saw the thread in question, so perhaps something got lost in translation, but there's nothing innately hypocritical about that.

[–]Kottfoers 0 points1 point ago

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Why would you post this in /r/funny for other reasons than to karma-whore?

[–]Mozzy 1 point2 points ago

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This is /r/pics, knucklehead.

[–]Kottfoers 0 points1 point ago

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Well played. That's still no reason to post this picture in /r/funny though.

[–]vitriolicsight 0 points1 point ago

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well said