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[–]iamapizza 27 points28 points ago

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That's smooth camera work.

[–]WISPR 14 points15 points ago

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He's frustrated because he's been working the treadmill for months and he's still a fat fuck.

[–]hereshowitis 26 points27 points ago

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My late father called pigeons 'rats with wings'. He also called squirrels 'rats with brushes'. Come to think of it, he may not have had the greatest grasp of taxonomy.

[–]unholymajick 55 points56 points ago

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This proves than airplanes cannot in fact take off on a treadmill.

[–]FrustratedFireman 17 points18 points ago

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Flawless Logic.

[–]Pigeon_Logic 27 points28 points ago

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I agree.

[–]guitartechie 5 points6 points ago

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Redditor for 819 days

THIS GUY IS LEGIT

[–]Pigeon_Logic 0 points1 point ago

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[–]etree -3 points-2 points ago

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Even if he had been only 2 days old he still would have been legit.

[–]VentusInsulae -1 points0 points ago

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Not necessarily. This could have been orchestrated.

[–]Pigeon_Logic 0 points1 point ago

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I assure you I had no idea this was posted here on Reddit. Pigeons do not use the internet, we merely seek to regulate i--- oh wait that's stool pigeons not logic pigeons.

FALSE ALARM GUYS

[–]etree -1 points0 points ago

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2 days. If he had been like 10 minutes old I would understand. If the account wasn't created with this post in mind, it's still funny regardless of age.

[–]VentusInsulae 1 point2 points ago

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How do you know it wasn't created with this in mind?

The beauty of the human mind is the ability to plan.

[–]Pigeon_Logic 1 point2 points ago

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human

Human am I? No. I am pigeon jelly.

[–]VentusInsulae 1 point2 points ago

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Granted, pigeons have less cognitive capacity than humans.

No offense, good sir.

[–]etree 0 points1 point ago

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maybe he planned this out 2 and a half years ago

[–]VentusInsulae 0 points1 point ago

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I would like to make the argument that the chance of the account being used towards a simple joke decreases exponentially with days of existence and overall karma.

Pigeon_Logic has been a redditor for 2 years, and has 12,544 comment karma. The chances of this account being intended for this joke is very low, though not non-existent.

So you have a point. A stupid one.

[–]MrDanger 26 points27 points ago

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Actually, birds can take off from a stand-still. This one's just an idiot.

[–]cords55[!] 25 points26 points ago

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Or just trying to work off those drumsticks. It's a vain city, you have to stay fly if you want to make it.

[–]Olukon 1 point2 points ago

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Coming this Winter!

Wings of Justice 2

[–]polysyllabist -1 points0 points ago

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This is obvious, lift isn't created be speed relative to the ground, but by the velocity (and relative density) of medium past over it's lifting surfaces (ie wings). If you are on a treadmill, you aren't passing through the air, regardless of how fast you're keeping up on a treadmill.

[–]Combustable_Lemons 6 points7 points ago

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Also most airplanes don't have any drive in their wheels, so on a tread mill they will still move at the same speed relative to the ground, but their wheels will be moving much faster than usual.

[–]sutherlandan 2 points3 points ago

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You're missing the point of the thought experiment.

Say there was a tredmill 1 mile long, and it was moving against an airplane. Since the wheels on a plane are free spinning, the treadmill would spin the wheels, but this wouldn't pull the airplane back at a speed you'd expect. (Picture holding a skateboard down on a regular treadmill, and allowing the wheels to spin)

The airplane could simply apply normal take off thrust with the propeller, and it would simply take off as normal on the treadmill. The only difference, would be the wheels turning twice as fast.

[–]432 1 point2 points ago

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I am confused. If aeroplanes can take off from tredmills, why cant this pigeon?

[–]rewr 4 points5 points ago

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Its not trying to take off. Its trying to land.

[–]staticchange 0 points1 point ago*

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Unless you are referring to the technicality that you can't take off on anything because otherwise you wouldn't be on it, you're both wrong. Furthermore, if I put a treadmill in my airplane with another airplane on it, that airplane in my airplane could still take off on the treadmill assuming that my original airplane took off from something else. After all, we don't have any trouble taking off on an airplane, whether or not we are also on a treadmill (I guess you might fall over though).

But taking off from a treadmill is easy. If an airplane must exceed X mph to take off, and a treadmill goes Y mph, then the airplane simply needs to exceed X+Y mph to take off from the treadmill.

Additionally, the airplane could just not be retarded and simply take off in the same direction as the treadmill. Now it can take off going X-Y mph, although presumably it will still need the means to maintain this velocity in flight.

This isn't even counting the airplanes capable of vertical take off.

[–]polysyllabist 0 points1 point ago

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Good job intentionally missing the point and expanding the limitations of the point to make it non inclusive in your attempt to refute a point that was 100% correct.

Going faster than the treadmill?

VToL

Slow clap for you sir.

[–]rewr 3 points4 points ago*

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You do realize that airplanes do not move in the same way as a car. Cars accelerate through friction between the tires and the road. Airplanes have jet engines or propellers for acceleration and the wheels are free to rotate. The treadmill cannot put any horizontal force on the airplane because the wheels are free to rotate, therefore taking off from a huge treadmill is the same as taking off from a normal runway.

if you don't believe this then here is video proof of an actual experiment.

[–]polysyllabist 0 points1 point ago

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Oh my, excellent point!

[–]staticchange 0 points1 point ago

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Rewr makes a good point, I was not considering that.

But please explain to me why an enormous treadmill going say 10mph would be able to stop an airplane from taking off? Even assuming that the airplane accelerated like a car. The treadmill would have to be going very fast to prevent acceleration. A typical treadmill would be negligible.

[–]sutherlandan 0 points1 point ago

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The point of the whole thing isn't to debate semantics about speed of the average household treadmill, it's more about the concept of an airplane with free spinning wheels taking off on a moving surface. A treadmill is just the easiest way to think about it.

[–]bluesforpablo 7 points8 points ago

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Pigeon powered escalator.

[–]G0083Rv3 8 points9 points ago

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I don't understand how these people just keep walking with hardly even a glance. I would think there would be an audience.

[–]atheros 1 point2 points ago

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If you hurriedly walk the same route every day it takes a very conscious will to stop.

[–]tittopotamus 6 points7 points ago

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I don't think he's frustrated... he looks like he's having fun!

[–]ketchy_shuby 4 points5 points ago

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... laying down a continuous stream of guano on the handrail.

[–]tittopotamus 0 points1 point ago

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lawl

[–]easternbachelor 7 points8 points ago

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How did you think pigeons maintain that figure?

[–]dmagee33 1 point2 points ago

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Just trying to work off those extra christmas worms.

[–]napalm_beach 1 point2 points ago

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Second film in the Pigeon's Pride trilogy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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There's a glitch in the matrix!

[–]hallucinating 1 point2 points ago

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Poor pigeon :(

[–]Pigeon_Logic 1 point2 points ago

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I don't understand. It worked just fine on the other side, it should work here too.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Silly pigeon, you can fly!

[–]highskymarshall 0 points1 point ago

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TIL: Pigeons need a running start to take off. Inferior pigeon race cannot compete with seagulls.

[–]Azelote 0 points1 point ago

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Oh... It's one of /them/ days.

[–]blue_flame 0 points1 point ago

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He's obviously practicing his moonwalk.

[–]sirberus 0 points1 point ago

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That pigeon was either on there for a while, or this dude is fast on his camera app. I always just miss the cool stuff.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Reminds me off this lady trying to go up the down escalator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFAM9p5fZU8

[–]Kaon_Particle 0 points1 point ago

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I think we found a bug in the pigeon's AI, someone tell the people in charge.

[–]ordinarygentleman8 0 points1 point ago

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What if the pigeon isn't and idiot and it's just getting some exercise.

[–]FalconTrash 0 points1 point ago

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You don't understand... the pidgeon is actually powering the escalator!

[–]Hyperian 0 points1 point ago

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[–]PastafarianNutJob 0 points1 point ago

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New dance craze: confirmed.

[–]TumbleDryLow 0 points1 point ago

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Did anyone else automatically hear the Rocky theme when they watched this?

[–]tonegoblin 0 points1 point ago

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treadmill!

[–]delmarman 0 points1 point ago

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He's not frustrated, goodness. He's working on his cardio! He needs to burn those calories, he had about 4 cake crumbs today.

[–]Megawatts19 0 points1 point ago

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MOTHERFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[–]Tebasaki 0 points1 point ago

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So many Japanese, so little help.

[–]ErroneousEric 0 points1 point ago

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"How do humans get anywhere!?"

[–]Heretic3e7 0 points1 point ago

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And that my fellow redditors, that one gif sums up my entire existence.

[–]sentienttent -3 points-2 points ago

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I fuckin hate pigeons.

[–]hwkns -1 points0 points ago

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Pigeons aren't exactly crows.

[–]iTzJdogxD -1 points0 points ago

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"Oh look a flying rat!" BAM "You've been a bitch on my ass for too long!"

[–]scnavi -1 points0 points ago

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No no no, he's practicing his moon walk

[–]andbruno -1 points0 points ago

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I remember a video on here a while back of "the first escalator in [some Eastern European or Middle Eastern country]" and like 40 people were trying (and failing) to go up the down escalator. It was at once hilarious and sad.

Found it.

[–]CozenOne -4 points-3 points ago

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Oh you crazy asian pigeons! You can fly you silly pigeons!

[–]Drunken_Economist -2 points-1 points ago*

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Pegeons are dumb

[–]manny130 -3 points-2 points ago

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It's funny because I fucking hate pigeons!