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[–]KidCosby 40 points41 points ago

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The answer is C. The point of the question is precisely what the writer though: there is no disorder to be diagnosed unless the behavior is disruptive to the well-being of one's life. C is not a disorder diagnosis, but is instead the observation of personality traits.

Don't mind me, I'm just your friendly neighborhood Psych major. whooshing noises

[–]AndyM03 1 point2 points ago

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I'm a highschooler and guessed C due to the word traits rather than a disorder.

Fuck yeah.

[–]knumbknuts 226 points227 points ago

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Sounds like every medical student I've ever known, right down to dating another medical student.

Smash cut to 15 years later, married to another doctor, neither happy with the state of medicine, each wondering what happened to the golden age of being a doctor.

[–]aetherflux1231237[S] 145 points146 points ago

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Which never existed in the first place.

[–]knumbknuts 37 points38 points ago

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I don't know, my grandfather used to walk into his office and not leave until all the patients were taken care of.

He and I went fishing on a ranch that is now Ted Turner's. Back then it was a rich Texan's (this was in Montana). He went into the ranch hand house to see if it was okay. Came out chuckling, saying "I smacked 9 out of ten of those boys on the butt to make them breathe, let's go fishing."

His son, my uncle (who went on to become the president of the ACS), says he used to go down to a nursing station and there were three nurses there. Now there are 8 nurses, to physical therapists, someone from the insurance company, 4 hospital administrators, and a dozen sales hotties (the numbers are my exaggeration).

[–]TheRabidYoshi 59 points60 points ago

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My Grandfather used to walk into his office, father an illegitimate child with a patient and then come home to beat his actual kids. He was nice to me though :)

[–]PancakesAreGone 5 points6 points ago

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Are you the illegitimate grandchild?

[–]TheRabidYoshi 15 points16 points ago

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No no. I have met her though. My Grandad suffered from Alzheimer's and died last year. None of his actual children would take care of him so she did. Then when he died they took all of his money despite him promising it to her and the people he liked in the family. Oh well

[–]PancakesAreGone 15 points16 points ago

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...Wow that is horribly awkward.

[–]NakedOldGuy 9 points10 points ago

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You should contact an estate attorney.

[–]NomDisposable 6 points7 points ago

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Not as far as I've heard. Something similar happened in my family. Grandpa had PTSD from WWII (he was 16 when he enlisted in the marines in '42); he was crazy and awful to be around. My aunt always swore that she would pull the plug as soon as he went on life support; she lied to the doctors about medical power of attorney, and did precisely that. My mom, who is a forgiving person who forged a healthy adult relationship with granddad, despite mental illness, was left all alone taking care of my stroked-out grandmom (previously granddad had been helping). As soon as my mom made the courtesy phone call to let my aunt know that grandmom had died a few years later, the aunt beat her to file claims to the estate in PA (death occurred in VA)--she took $120,000, giving nothing to the people who had sacrificed their lives for five years taking care of an incomprehensible, newly-psychotic stroke victim. Mom never turned aunt in for the execution-style illegal plug pulling, because Adrien P. of Philadelphia would have lost her nursing license and the family and kids would have been left struggling financially. Hah. Estate attorney couldn't fix this.

[–]Larillia 2 points3 points ago

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His "actual children"? Isn't that a bit insensitive to her....

[–]Konet 4 points5 points ago

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ok, his children who are not bastards. better?

[–]Larillia 2 points3 points ago

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You made me sad. Then I laughed. And then I was sad again. =(

[–]NRGT -1 points0 points ago

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Was she hot?

[–]TheRabidYoshi 5 points6 points ago

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ಠ_ಠ

[–]jakemyers7 1 point2 points ago

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dude these questions have to be asked

[–]grilledbaby 0 points1 point ago

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Obviously. She was crazy. Isnt that a good indication?

[–]chass3 3 points4 points ago

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Is this Ted Turner's ranch down south of Bozeman, in Gallatin Gateway? I have a cousin that lives out that way and his house is sort of across from a mountain that Ted Turner owns.

[–]midwestpaintball 6 points7 points ago

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across from a mountain that Ted Turner owns

fuuuuuuuck

[–]EltaninAntenna 0 points1 point ago

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Feeling very 99% right now.

[–]knumbknuts 1 point2 points ago

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They used to call it the Flying D. The fishing was on Cherry Creek. That's the one. I haven't seen Ted's new house. This was about 25 years ago.

[–]Bitter_Idealist 6 points7 points ago

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Reposter.

[–]dnifdoog 1 point2 points ago

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Dont sell out, try doctors w/o borders

[–]DoctorKazefa 2 points3 points ago

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That's odd. I'm an MS1 and we're actually a pretty remarkably sociable class. I'm having almost as much fun as I was in college, to be honest.

[–]jonathanrdt 2 points3 points ago

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Lots of young lawyers are feeling this as well.

Meanwhile, life in IT is awesome.

[–]knumbknuts 1 point2 points ago

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Funny you should mention, I own an IT consulting biz.

[–]ashwinmudigonda 1 point2 points ago

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Can't wait for Dr. Watson.

[–]gwarsh41 1 point2 points ago

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Huh, replace all the doctor stuff with teaching stuff and you have the average teacher!

[–]niggytardust2000 1 point2 points ago

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Most of today's doctors would have never become doctors in the "golden age" of medicine because they wouldn't have been paid nearly so much.

Most of the premeds I knew were obsessed with prestige more than anything else, always arrogantly snickering, " Well at least you're gonna be A DOCTOR" . This attitude led me to quit be a premed because I could never see myself getting along with these beast people. I later see this decision as immature as I should have focused on job-market realities and what I actually wanted to accomplish vs. what vapid people I may or may not encounter.

[–]playthev 5 points6 points ago

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To be honest I barely put any effort into medical school (in the UK) and probably spent less than 10% of my free time revising throughout the five years and still graduated (although my marks were admittedly towards the lower end of the year). So it is definitely possible going through medical school and having a typical "reddit college senior" life. In retrospect however I should have definitely put more effort in and tried to achieve honours.

[–]fancy-chips 22 points23 points ago

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not in America. After 4 years of Undergrad you do 4 years of grueling Medical school. 2 of those years are classes and 2 are clinical years... then you are $300,000 in debt, whereupon you get into a residency program (another 3 to 6 years) where you are paid $40,000 per year and work 90 hour weeks until you are a real doctor.

but then you are a real doctor and make anywhere from $150,000 per year to $600,000

[–]playthev 5 points6 points ago

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Ive heard that from others, I guess that's why you need to be a graduate to enter med school in America, it's scary to think how immature I was when I started med school.

[–]niggytardust2000 1 point2 points ago

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Love how all doctors I know focus so much on money.

"What kind of doctor do you want to be ? " " I dunno "

[–]fancy-chips 0 points1 point ago

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It really matters when you are saddled with so much debt. the idea early on of being in that much debt influences your decisions. I doubt you would see that much money grubbing if they were paid a more moderate wage and given free education.

I wish we would just give Total debt forgiveness for all Family doctors if they did a Family residency and promised to work in that field for 10 years. We would have so many more GPs.

[–]the_raptor 0 points1 point ago

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It might have something to do with debt, but a lot of medical students go into it for the money. Banker, lawyer, doctor was the trifecta of top careers and "upwardly mobile" parents push their kids towards those careers.

Of course now there are too many lawyers and bankers and not enough doctors willing to take less than top pay.

[–]partyplatypus 6 points7 points ago

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I've got a question: is medical school in the UK tertiary or quaternary education (it's quaternary here in the States)?

[–]playthev 6 points7 points ago

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tertiary, so for example I was a doctor at 22

[–]partyplatypus 1 point2 points ago

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Interesting, thanks.

[–]pylori 2 points3 points ago

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Medicine, in general, in the UK is an undergraduate degree. There are special graduate-only courses (termed GEM/GEP) for those who have previously completed a degree, but these students are in the minority.

[–]pylori 2 points3 points ago

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I knew a med student who barely revised and ended up dropping out, which I thought was a massive shame considering that space could have gone to a student who would have put in the effort.

As another medical student I quite frankly don't know how you spent less than 10% of your time revising and still managed to graduate. Even the laziest of my friends put in decent effort into revision both during term time and in the exam period. There's so much to know I don't know how you can pass exams by just turning up to lectures and barely studying. Consider yourself lucky.

[–]playthev 4 points5 points ago

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I revised extremely intensely around exam time, and what also helped was the fact that most of my exams were multiple choice/extended matching without negative marking (adjusted random mark was applied) which I think is an easy exam format when using cramming. Ofcourse OSCE often caught me out, as there are no easy ways around passing them.

[–]Eist 1 point2 points ago

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This only applies if you are from the US: I'm not saying you are wrong, but as a New Zealander living in the US, how medicine is conducted is very very different. Many US doctors love working in NZ (even though they get paid about 1/4 what they might do in the US), because, I assume, it is reminiscent of the 'golden age'.

[–]TheSemiTallest 109 points110 points ago

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I would love to hear someone getting diagnosed with that.

I'm sorry, but it looks like you probably have 'Fuck you, that sounds totally normal. Asshole'. We usually just shorten it to 'FYTSTNA.'

[–]ScalpedAlive 101 points102 points ago

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I can't look at that and not see FISTINGYA

[–]rob7030 21 points22 points ago

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You may be dylsexic.

[–]downvotes_are_great 5 points6 points ago

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No it is sexlexia

[–]Doopz479 17 points18 points ago

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I can.

[–]jascri 29 points30 points ago

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I can, but I don't want to.

[–]sprankton 2 points3 points ago

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I don't have FISTINGYA, but I can see myself developing it.

[–]loverboyxD 1 point2 points ago

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I accidentally gave somebody a fistula.

[–]nanoage 5 points6 points ago

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I wish I had FYTSTNA.... but I'm a little fucked up.

[–]DonaldShimoda 89 points90 points ago

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Well, that guy clearly has obsessive-compulsive traits. But that is a pretty vague term. We all have obsessive-compulsive traits to some extent, and especially under long-term trying circumstances such as higher education or a difficult job.

Seems more like the question is pointing out that normally functioning people can have obsessive-compulsive traits as opposed to identifying this person as abnormal.

[–]lookcloserlenny 37 points38 points ago

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Every time this is reposted, someone makes this point (which is true) and everyone realizes that they were ranting about something they have no idea about. Obsessive-compulsive traits are completely normal and that's the whole point of the question. What scares me is that every time its reposted the correct response (this one) is always lower and lower down. Reddit is beginning to move away from rationality.

[–]uhbijnokm 13 points14 points ago

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Maybe the rational people don't feel the need to discuss it again.

[–]DonaldShimoda 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah..bang your head against the wall over and over and it will start to hurt. Once or twice is enough.

[–]sentry07 8 points9 points ago

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We don't take too kindly to you thinkers around here.

[–]Epoh[!] 0 points1 point ago

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(Southern drawl) your not from round here are ya boy?

[–]deicidus 1 point2 points ago

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We still need better crowdsourcing technologies?

[–]11oops 1 point2 points ago

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Traits are not disorders as was stated in the question, so that's not necessarily correct.

[–]lookcloserlenny 0 points1 point ago

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What was not correct? Don't be ambiguous if you intend to make a point.

[–]averagehomosapiens 1 point2 points ago

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The question asks "Which of the following disorders does this student likely have?" implying that he must have a disorder. The question is phrased incorrectly. A less misleading way of phrasing it would be "Which of the following describes the student best?"

[–]Epoh[!] 0 points1 point ago

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Everyone does have obsessive traits they get hung up on that are far from anything thats serious, but the way that paragraph is phrased to me makes the trait sound like a problem that requires help in some way...... So as much as the trait is innocent, the medical lens certainly shines through in the text.

[–]lordofwhee 2 points3 points ago

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The thing is, the question specifically says "disorder." While I agree the intent is probably to show that traits associated with a specific disorder may be present in people who do not have that disorder, and may indeed be common traits, the question is poorly worded.

[–]lookcloserlenny 1 point2 points ago

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That's the thing, no one has any idea where the question is from. It could be the practice section from a crappy textbook assigned to psych 101. Its a poorly worded question (as you pointed out) but the point its trying to make is valid; which is that these particular behavioral traits are not alarming. However, every single re-post I see leads into a rant-laden 500+ upvoted comment about how crazy modern medicine is and how nuts doctors are. I feel as if reddit is caring less and less about context and just wishing for a situation where someone can voice their opinion without any sort of factual backing.

[–]DonaldShimoda 0 points1 point ago

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True, I didn't quite catch that. Unfortunately that leads to people thinking an imaginary disorder exists.

C- for the Professor on this one.

[–]vodkamartini 142 points143 points ago

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Wow... yeah, completely normal. Maybe it's a trick question about which diagnosis would best fit this normal person so you can keep seeing them as a patient and bill their insurance company?

Kidding, kidding :)

[–]N0V0w3ls 28 points29 points ago

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Pretty sure it's "Obsessive Compulsive Traits". Not actually having the disorder, but displaying similar, non-debilitating symptoms.

[–]Theyus 0 points1 point ago

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It's this. That's the whole point of the question, it's not OCD, it's just traits that are obsessive compulsive. Ironically, someone who knows very little about medicine would likely deduce this faster than a Med student.

[–]PotStar 23 points24 points ago

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best answer yet.

[–]Meekois 22 points23 points ago

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Obsessive compulsive traits are considered normal behavior. It's not a trick question. C is the correct answer.

[–]jimbabwe222 3 points4 points ago

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Do you know what you call the medical student who struggles with all his exams, doesn't really understand a majority of the topics, and squeaks by at the very bottom of his class?

Doctor.

[–]ifatree 1 point2 points ago

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we would have also accepted E. Canadian.

[–]vodkamartini 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah... I was sort of kidding (I know it's not obvious).

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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It's obsessive compulsive traits. It's not a disorder.

[–]MrChurchSir 12 points13 points ago

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The sad part is that it's not a joke...

[–]Duhh233 15 points16 points ago

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Seriously, I saw this posted just yesterday (and that itself was a repost). Why don't we all wait a little longer before we repost?

[–]StalinsLastStand 2 points3 points ago

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What? This has never been posted before.:

title comnts points age /r/
If you aren't a slacker, you have a psychological disorder? 14coms 35pts 8mos reddit.com
Ah, the inner thoughts of a future scientist. 1com 10pts 8mos pics
As a current med student, i think "F" sounds about right 6coms 12pts 8mos pics
Medical Students are... 673coms 1831pts 9mos funny
Fuck you, that sounds totally normal, asshole 582coms 847pts 4mos reddit.com
It's shit like this, med school.. 5coms 12pts 6mos pics

source: karmadecay

[–]13853211 2 points3 points ago

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I wish there was a way to generate something like this for every repost.

[–]nightfan 1 point2 points ago

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I sigh every time I see this post, which is pretty damn often.

[–]dhays202 48 points49 points ago

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It's stuff like this that makes psychiatry scare the piss out of me. A set of ambiguous circumstances that may or may not indicate the presence of hard work, creativity, or an eccentricity offers no choice but to find fault and fracture with the examples way of thinking.

[–]Meekois 6 points7 points ago

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The answer is C. Obsessive compulsive traits. This is not a disorder, and is considered within normal behavior. The person who wrote "F" on the paper was not listening in class.

[–]Renmauzuo 16 points17 points ago

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What really bothers me is how people self diagnose just about any quirky behavior as some disorder or other.

"I like to keep all my books alphabetized, I'm so OCD." "I was up late last night, must be insomnia." "I got distracted by a loud, obvious noise. I must be ADD!"

[–]weasler7 6 points7 points ago

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Difference between traits and disorders.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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"Disorder" means something is preventing this person from living a "functional" life. The sadder fact is that "functional" is also subjective to some degree.

[–]ifatree 0 points1 point ago

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why would it be sad for there to be degrees of variation of the human experience? i would think it incredibly sad if we were all 100% the same and lived the same lives. ever read "the giver"?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I think you are agreeing with me. Someone acting strangely, but not destructively, is "functional" according to me. To some psychiatrists this seems to not be the case. I read the Giver in elementary school, yes.

[–]nojoebe 1 point2 points ago

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I used to do this, especially to myself, until I was around people with actual problems that made it hard for them to function. Now I have the same pet peeve as you. If you can function in normal society chances are you are probably doing ok.

[–]bodaciousbilly 30 points31 points ago

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Well that's what happens when you start putting names on too many "disorders." Pretty soon all our basic personalities can be described by what's wrong with us.

[–]DonaldShimoda 32 points33 points ago

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Obsessive-compulsive traits aren't a disorder. They are a symptom of a potential disorder, but by themselves mean essentially nothing.

There certainly is a problem with vague diagnoses in some disorders but I don't think this particular test question is an example. Any psychiatrist who would diagnose this man with OCD would be clearly wrong without further evidence.

[–]ifatree 0 points1 point ago

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no, that's what happens when you start demonizing and negatively stereotyping every difference as a "disorder". there's nothing inherently "wrong" about not being the same as the majority of everyone else.

[–]cultured_banana_slug 17 points18 points ago

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Doesn't like sitting still, listening to boring lectures, and regurgitating disconnected information on demand? This 4 year-old must have a mental disorder. Pill him up!

[–]Hawkknight88 6 points7 points ago

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It is my theory (and hope) that this happens pretty rarely, and is a media phenomenon more so than a real trend.

Check out this diagnosis material. You'll see the criteria specified A LOT more than just inattentiveness to schoolwork. I think everybody ffing knows kids don't like school.

[–]jello562 2 points3 points ago

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Most patients that psychiatrists see or that we as ED docs would ask psychiatrists see are way more bat-shit than the case described. Actually, I've never met any patient as functional as the person described in the case. Psychiatrists went to med school too and makes me think this is kind of tongue-in-cheek. - MD

[–]cardiomegaly 0 points1 point ago

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Like others have said: 'traits' are not the same thing as 'disorder' (the correct answer is C by the way). Just means this guy/girl is exhibiting some symptoms of OCD, but in no way meet the criteria for the diagnosis. Most importantly, his traits aren't having a negative affect on those around him and he/she is relatively happy (or seems so at least).

[–]Epoh[!] 0 points1 point ago

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Ya the question is on an exam so i understand why they didnt really bother to make themselves perfectly clear of their intentions, but you raise a good point.

I suppose ppl with ocd or symptoms of it are only treated if patients come to them for help because they recognize there is a problem, science shouldnt try to cure you if you dont acknowledge or feel theres an issue.

[–]NonPermissive 15 points16 points ago

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I was about to point out how often this gets posted, but then I figured some smartass would make an obsessive-compulsive quip.

[–]turnleftdale 5 points6 points ago

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This has been reposted 100+ times.

[–]fdgvieira 4 points5 points ago

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The correct answer is C. This person has Obsessive Compulsive traits. First day of my first Theories of Personality class the professor explained that we all have traits of some psychological conditions. That is part of being human. It is the cases where these traits become excessive or unmanageable in which they are actually considered a disorder.

[–]BATMAN-cucumbers 1 point2 points ago

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I believe your post is the most balanced/useful one in the thread so far.

[–]fdgvieira 1 point2 points ago

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Thanks. Given all this anti-psychology rhetoric I thought, for a moment, reddit had been overrun by the CoS.

[–]BATMAN-cucumbers 0 points1 point ago

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That's a shame.

But I can see the reason - people are disgruntled with the way the psychology industry is abusing the psychology science, much like governments of the past (and current) abuse religion (the set of rules for maintaining an ordered society).

The bad part is, while now we can discard religion and be mostly OK with the new set of tools we have, it's a bit too early for psychology - neurobiology and neurochemistry still have a long way to go.

[–]whatwouldredditsay 7 points8 points ago

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No redditor could relate.

[–]Questions_Only 8 points9 points ago

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So, what is the actual answer to this question? Does anyone know?

[–]Happyphase 37 points38 points ago

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obsessive compulsive traits. Which isnt a disease. The question is ridiculosly(spelling?) simple really.

[–]donkeydiddler 11 points12 points ago

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Ridiculously. 9 times out of 10, you can just type it into Google and it'll tell you the proper spelling.

[–]Kunkletown 0 points1 point ago

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Oh, i thought it was schizoid.

[–]NeonRedHerring 0 points1 point ago

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Medical student husband here. She says obsessive compulsive personality disorder.

[–]GReggzz732 24 points25 points ago

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Nothing in his life is being interfered with from his compulsions. So it can't be classified as a disorder since he lives a normal life and it isn't affecting his school or social life (since he does have a gf). They're just OCD traits.

[–]Hawkknight88 3 points4 points ago

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Having a girlfriend is not having a social life. Only interacting socially with a single person is not considered normal or healthy. Additionally the student refuses to go out with colleagues in preference for lab work.

[–]NeonRedHerring 6 points7 points ago

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Wife again: This is the classic case example given (a nearly identical one was used in my medical school's psychiatry unit last year) for Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (one of the Cluster C personality disorders). The facts that the student doesn't go out with his colleagues (not a normal social life, despite having a medical school girlfriend) and doesn't trust others to take notes both point to the disorder. Some of us might not recognize these as interfering with the patient's life, and the patient probably doesn't realize this himself (lack of insight is very important in personality disorders).

You mentioned that nothing in his life is being interfered with from his "compulsions." OCPD patients, unlike OCD patients, don't have ritualistic behaviors (compulsions). These are two different diseases.

I do agree with you, though, that this patient would not be diagnosed unless he came in for help or if someone close to him brought him in - patients with personality disorders rarely seek help.

Source: FirstAid for the USMLE 2012, along with my medical school courses

[–]throwaway52133 6 points7 points ago

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This is incorrect. The correct answer is (C), obsessive compulsive traits.

I actually own this book. It's a question from Case Files Psychiatry by Eugene Toy. The official explanation from the back is that a DSM-IV diagnosis of a personality disorder requires either significant personal distress (which is rare with a personality disorder) or interferes with one's functioning (which is not supported by the question stem).

[–]mesmereyes 5 points6 points ago

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Quick question on this one..I don't really understand why not trusting others to take notes would be classified as a disorder. I feel like I am responsible for my own education and grades. I don't trust anyone to take notes for me and I don't enjoy group work because I don't trust others work accounting for my grade. We've all been burned before when working in a group or maybe relying on another person's notes, so I see this as a natural response to that. If someone gave you awful notes one time and it caused detriment to your grade and knowledge would you be quick to trust someone with that again? I also usually choose my boyfriend over my peers to spend time with. I don't see how this is an indication of disorder either. I mean lets face it, things you can get from peers: humor, intelligence, fun, conversation, support. Things you can get from a significant other: humor, intelligence, fun, conversation, support, sex, cuddling, affection, love. Logically, spending time with your significant other makes a lot more sense because you can get more out of it. I mean they are your significant other for a reason. Why would I want to hang out with some guy who doesn't "get me" that well when I could hang out with my boyfriend who understands me?

[–]NeonRedHerring 3 points4 points ago

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I think I addressed this below. Medical school is a different environment from undergrad. By medical school, the students that gave you the awful notes are gone. The vast, vast majority of your colleagues (medical schools are very reluctant to let students go once they've accepted them) will be doctors someday, and the medical profession is a very interdependent one. We're taught to work together and rely on each other from day one. It's essential for our profession - a cardiologist, for example, needs to know that when she calls up her pulmonologist friend for a consult, he won't make a mistake and harm her patient. In undergrad you are encouraged to have the "I'm responsible for myself" attitude. In medical school we are taught to go out of our way to help each other.

[–]Larillia 2 points3 points ago

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I believe the implication is distrusting them to the point that he wouldn't miss class even if he had a very good reason. It's not a preference in this case, it's a compulsion.

[–]Fap_Slap 2 points3 points ago

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Not taking notes from others isn't by itself a disorder, it's just something that reinforces a OCPD diagnosis. For a diagnosis you need at least 3 of the following (Using world health organization manual for standardization; DSM-IV-TR is similar in diagnosis):

  1. feelings of excessive doubt and caution;
  2. preoccupation with details, rules, lists, order, organization or schedule;
  3. perfectionism that interferes with task completion;
  4. excessive conscientiousness, scrupulousness, and undue preoccupation with productivity to the exclusion of pleasure and interpersonal relationships;
  5. excessive pedantry and adherence to social conventions;
  6. rigidity and stubbornness;
  7. unreasonable insistence by the individual that others submit exactly to his or her way of doing things, or unreasonable reluctance to allow others to do things;
  8. intrusion of insistent and unwelcome thoughts or impulses.

[–]jmowens51 7 points8 points ago

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Maybe his friends are just assholes, and he doesn't want to spend time with them.

[–]Hawkknight88 3 points4 points ago

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Then they're not friends, and he needs some real ones? You're playing devil's advocate now.

[–]PorcelainLily 4 points5 points ago

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Pretty sure significant distress + impact on life is also a criteria, one which he doesn't meet.

[–]bokbok 1 point2 points ago

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The facts that the student doesn't go out with his colleagues (not a normal social life, despite having a medical school girlfriend) and doesn't trust others to take notes both point to the disorder.

...Or they could just prefer the enjoyment of little to no company.

[–]aguafiestas 0 points1 point ago*

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I don't think it meets criteria for OCPD, as per the DSM-IV-TR.

The criteria require at least 4/8 conditions be met, and I think only two are described in the case: "(3) is excessively devoted to work and productivity to the exclusion of leisure activities and friendships not accounted for by obvious economic necessity" and potentialy "(6) is reluctant to delegate tasks or to work with others unless they submit exactly to his way of doing things."

There are two others that could potentially apply but don't seem to since he is doing well in medical school: "(1)is preoccupied with details, rules, lists, order, organization or schedules to the extent that the major point of the activity is lost," and "(2) shows perfectionism that interferes with task completion (e.g. is unable to complete a project because his or her own very strict standards are not met)."

I would say the portion i italicized for those two does not fit, since he is not having problems with medical school, so he does not meet criteria.

Since OCD and the other personality disorders clearly don't apply, I guess that leaves "obsessive-compulsive traits," although really I'd just call this "normal" instead of trying to pathologize it.

[–]weasler7 1 point2 points ago

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It's only disorder if it's interfering socially in some way. OHH SHEEYIT

[–]Beretot 1 point2 points ago

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But are you the husband of a medical student, or a medical student who is also a husband?

I know it's most likely the former, but it's fun to show another interpretation to a phrase.

[–]drweezyfbaby 3 points4 points ago

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she is wrong

[–]weasler7 3 points4 points ago

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That's why the answer is C, which is non pathologic.

[–]TimMitchell 38 points39 points ago

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One of the most reposted pics of all time

[–]aznkupo 3 points4 points ago

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I just don't really get how the majority of netizens have not seen this yet. I've seen this multiple times on facebook, tumblr, and reddit.....

[–]drachenstern 1 point2 points ago

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and yet neither myself nor my two closest mates had seen it. So sod the fuck off and hide shit.

[–]nazguel3536 4 points5 points ago

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At least once a week

[–]x20mike07x 2 points3 points ago

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Reddit does have a 'hide' feature. Not everyone has seen what you have and vice versa. Skip over it, down vote it if you want, and move on.

[–]ninjawithguns 2 points3 points ago

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FW: FW: FW: FW: REPOST: LOL THIS IS FUNNY

[–]brownfield84 8 points9 points ago*

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This was on here multiple times before.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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and each time the answer is traits goddamnit.

the end

[–]tooPoorToPlaySkyrim 13 points14 points ago

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repost

[–]Mercuryblade18 1 point2 points ago

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Meh I'm a medical student and this does apply to quite a few kids but not necessarily the ones that are doing the best. I'm dating and soon to be engaged to someone who isn't a medical student. I don't go out and get smashed the weekend before a test but studying 12 hours a day is counter productive. I wish I would have figured that out first block. You have to take care of the spirit or the mind doesn't work very well.

[–]DeepRoast 1 point2 points ago

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Sounds like G. Successful student.

I doubt OCD because well he has a girlfriend which shows he has some form of social life and enjoys what he does while giving it his all.

Wish I was more like that in college.

[–]denChemiker 1 point2 points ago

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Must be a lefty. Gotta love the "lefty smear"

[–]superkrups20056 1 point2 points ago

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How did I know what picture this was without even clicking on the link...this is such old news.

[–]imaunitard 1 point2 points ago

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it's Asperger's.

[–]iaccidentlytheworld 1 point2 points ago

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He must be like 45 now. I saw this on AOL.

[–]omgimonfiyah 1 point2 points ago

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So if it sounds normal, isn't C the right answer? A normal subject with obsessive-compulsive traits

[–]khast 0 points1 point ago

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College, it's one hell of a drug.

[–]SurRea1 1 point2 points ago

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A 23 year old repost.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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I believe the key is that, while he has obsessive-compulsive traits, he is not disordered. It's a "disorder" once it presents a problem. He clearly has a healthy and functional life.

[–]DrTangerine 1 point2 points ago

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This post prompted me to make a username instead of "casually" browsing reddit.

I've been in my first year of medical school since August, and it has literally stomped out my energy, health, spirit and relationships. I still stay here and work hard in the hopes that one day I can actually help people.

Whoever is actually having a good time in medical school---you're not trying hard enough or your school has really low standards. Either way...med school is hard for a reason. As for the post, F is definitely the right choice. If you're not that way...you're not going to survive medical school.

Also. I'm doing this during a 10-minute study break...we got over 200 pages of notes within two weeks. Ugh.

[–]balancedhighs 2 points3 points ago

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This person has a serious mental disease. He wants to achieve something. What is wrong with him!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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That awkward moment when you realize that you aren't normal.

[–]robotpirateninja 2 points3 points ago

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That awkward moment when you realize that according to modern psychiatry, no one is normal.

FTFM.

[–]ifatree 0 points1 point ago

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That amazing moment when you realize that, according to modern philosophy, to be normal is a negative trait.

[–]ifatree 0 points1 point ago

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the normal moment when you realize you don't have to be awkward about it.

[–]Bowi 1 point2 points ago

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...girlfriend?

[–]UnkzF 1 point2 points ago

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I think the right answer would be Schizoid personality answer. I'm just sayin'

[–]rulz05 0 points1 point ago

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A 20 year old medical student here, F is the answer, trust me.

[–]Slippyy 0 points1 point ago

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That sounds exactly what I do with my life.... and I'm a 23 year old medical student. What the fuck.

[–]firstEncounter 0 points1 point ago

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I see you're left-handed.

[–]illiterate-ish 0 points1 point ago

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I found out that this was from the book "Pre-test: Psychiatry" as I was studying for my psych shelf. That particular answer wasn't an option though...

[–]Yellowbenzene 0 points1 point ago

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I did very little work as a medical student. I am cohabiting with another doctor though!

[–]Highsenberg2358 0 points1 point ago

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It's funny because this is what I do. No wonder all my friends think I'm weird.

[–]OrageSyringe 0 points1 point ago

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what's the answer?

[–]iggyfenton 0 points1 point ago

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The Answer is Z: A student who will be an awesome Dr.

[–]Hawkknight88 0 points1 point ago

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It's all normal except for one specific part

refuses to go out with his colleagues even when there are no tests on the immediate horizon, preferring...

That is antisocial (the answer is "OCD" or some form of obsessive-compulsiveness). The rest of it just "hard worker".

[–]BATMAN-cucumbers 0 points1 point ago

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Is that asocial or antisocial?

[–]Hawkknight88 1 point2 points ago

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It would be "asocial" you are correct.

[–]lovelydayfora 0 points1 point ago

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Tourettes.

[–]Berbaw06 0 points1 point ago

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Seems normal to me, too.

[–]Herborist 0 points1 point ago

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It's B or C. A's always confused for B, and is much more serious condition where the person suffering from it is compelled to do much more annoying than just being meticulous in otherwise normal situations.

[–]l33tb3rt 0 points1 point ago

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Srs question: What is the correct answer?

[–]Dannysmartful 0 points1 point ago

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Now buy every used text book, write that in all of them and return them the same week to get your money back. All the same, my hero <3 <3 <3

[–]Camit413 0 points1 point ago

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The first few words in the pen-written sentence makes the illusion of it looking like the OP was crying.

[–]xdig2000 0 points1 point ago

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And he even has a girlfriend, the writer is an idiot.

[–]nycsemaj 0 points1 point ago

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True story

[–]RushDrum 0 points1 point ago

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As a 23-year old medical student, I can only say that we are a product of the system. As if cultivating the competitive nature required to gain entry into medical school is stressful enough, you have to stand out as the cream of the crop to get your desired residency placement - only to realize that all 5 of you who received the placement are now in a power struggle for the one 'real position.'

How to cope? Have awesome friends who force you to come out and do stuff by driving to your home, steal your books for 5 hours and only give them back if you hang out for that amount of time. A girlfriend NOT in medicine is also the best thing in the world.

[–]_thursty_ 0 points1 point ago

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I totally agree. My sister is in medical school right now. In fact, even the "has a girlfriend who is also a medical student" is cutting it close because when you're a first and second year med student there is time for nothing but studying.

[–]katymcc4 0 points1 point ago

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This is my life. Ridic

[–]CrossCheckPanda 0 points1 point ago

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I'm dating a vet student. Thats like half the class

[–]SonOfJacob 0 points1 point ago

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Does anyone know if the correct answer is B?

I don't know the details regarding these medical terms, what I'm gaining at is to see if my left handed brains logic is valid.

Here is how I my brain works when reading these answer such as these:

1) There are three different answers ending with the phrase "personality disorder". This (to me) indicates the answer is one of these three is the correct answer.

2) There are two answers with the phrase "Obsessive-compulsive". Answer B is one of these two, and it was also part from my first list of possible answers. Making this one the most likely answer.

[–]cardiomegaly 0 points1 point ago

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It's C. The guy has traits of a disorder, but nothing indicates that he actually has one. DSM IV has some pretty strict guidelines on how you diagnose a disorder, and the hypothetical person in question doesn't meet all the criteria. For instance, the passage doesn't imply any sort of personal distress, dysfunction of life, or harm to others.

You can't use those tricks in med school exams all the time. Sometimes it comes down to if you know your shit or not. The author for this question was testing whether you can discern the different between traits and disorders, which are essentially full-blown, devastating, and extreme effects of certain traits.

EDIT: I don't have the book myself, but apparently throwaway52133 does and confirms the answer is C.

[–]SonOfJacob 1 point2 points ago

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Ok, thnx cardiomegaly! Moments like this makes me so glad that I don't need to spend any more time school (as far I know anyway) :)

[–]cardiomegaly 0 points1 point ago

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No problemo!

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[–]ikurumba 0 points1 point ago

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I bet the OP just typed up that question in a word document, printed it out, wrote that on it, and is an unemployed, forever alone, living with his parents, getting caught fapping every now and then, troll. Or the teacher in who made the test is an idiot.

[–]NeptunesDecision 0 points1 point ago

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and this post perfectly shows why psychology is a bunch of bull shit. It makes up terms to define what is normal and what isn't normal. Who cares if someone has minor ticks that they have or that they are "abnormal" according to some asshole who made up what they think is normal. Psychology is a bunch of hypothetical bull shit

[–]flammenwerfer 0 points1 point ago

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Sounds like half of the medical students I know.

But, you know, keep on with your stereotypes (top comment).

[–]AcidUK 0 points1 point ago

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I've seen that question on the Manchester medical school progress test, it's from the national bank of questions used across most medical schools. How did you come to get a picture of it? Was it one of the sample questions provided to you?

[–]jakemyers7 0 points1 point ago

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I know no one will read but if these stories are true im going to give up votes to all the medical students on this thread

[–]DrTangerine 1 point2 points ago

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You're a good man.

[–]jakemyers7 0 points1 point ago

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Hears me im a community college student in canada , two year course some may make fun of me saying i took the easy way or im lazy/stupid but when im done my course the job i was offered(and damn well accepted) has got me earning 37/hr). University was never gonna be my way to an education i needed something more hands on and where the professors interacted with their students, smaller class sizes was one of the best things for my course. I am now a power engineer with the same license (3rd) as a university student who took my course for 4-5 years. One of the main reasons were hired over uni students is because we get to do work terms with companys and create a relationship with them thats how i got this job. I will applaud those people who do take a serious approach to their education

[–]DrTangerine 0 points1 point ago

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Hard work is still hard work in any shape or form, and it's always respectable in my opinion. Education is valuable, and I'm glad that you can appreciate med students, but you should be very proud of yourself also!

[–]babboa 0 points1 point ago

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How many times can this be reposted? I can remember at least 3 just in the past few months.

[–]Rorkimaru 0 points1 point ago

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In fairness that is the description of the perfect med student

[–]DrTangerine 0 points1 point ago

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Only a med student can truly know this.

[–]LoneStarA 0 points1 point ago

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I thought that was a requirement to be a doctor...

[–]LettersFromTheSky 0 points1 point ago

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If I was a medical student, I'd fit that description to a t. (except for the GF part)

[–]MahDick 0 points1 point ago

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...has a girlfriend. riiiiiiiiiggghhht, med students and Dr. in residence do not have time for sex.

[–]jajajajaj 0 points1 point ago

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Oh snap, he said you have a trait!!

[–]Noel_S_Jytemotiv 0 points1 point ago

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...walks into a bar...

[–]shiftius 0 points1 point ago

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They spend years teaching you to be this kind of person, when it actually happens, you have a mental disorder

[–]CanadaEh97 0 points1 point ago

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Answer is B

[–]Mikej9 0 points1 point ago

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Yea what's wrong with being the top of your class. There's the doctor I want treating me.

[–]ZombieDib 0 points1 point ago

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medical student, F is the only option