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[–]reasonable_force 43 points44 points ago

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Two wrongs make a gif.

[–]mbleslie 175 points176 points ago

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Not that what the cop did was right, but if you kick a cop it's not like you're going to win a prize

[–]CrackedPepper86 96 points97 points ago

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"This lady's got a strong leg. We should probably let her go."

[–]badphish94 33 points34 points ago

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"... when she wakes up."

[–]Early93rd 10 points11 points ago

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Piggybacking off your comment to give the people what they came here for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvoQRdSFiDw&feature=related

[–]Fearlessleader85 15 points16 points ago

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Still, if you're a cop and you kick a handcuffed woman in the head, you should not be a cop anymore. Or free. Shitty person, right there.

[–]pics-or-didnt-happen 2 points3 points ago

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He could have pepper sprayed or tased her.

Woman is an idiot. Now she is going to be charged with assault on a police officer.

[–]Fearlessleader85 -1 points0 points ago

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Either of those would have been preferable to a kick to the head.

[–]TG_Alibi 0 points1 point ago

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Would it make a difference if a man was kicked in the head like that? How about a man of a minority race?

[–]Fearlessleader85 8 points9 points ago

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Not even slightly. Completely unacceptable response to such a small offense, and even if a large response WAS needed, kicking a restrained person in the face wasn't it.

[–]TG_Alibi -2 points-1 points ago

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I just wanted to be sure (though I know you don't speak for everyone) that we weren't making this a bigger issue because of race or sex. I honestly have no opinion on the officer's behavior. Drunk people can be dumb, officers are supposed to protect and serve, we're all human and perfectly capable of making mistakes.

[–]GovernmentMan 0 points1 point ago

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Irrelevant.

[–]l30 0 points1 point ago

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someone totally just jacked your comment and posted it to the video on the youtubes.

[–]mbleslie 0 points1 point ago

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I guess some people can't think for themselves

[–]NCchance 104 points105 points ago

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Hello. Yes, this is concrete.

[–]dlc1911 41 points42 points ago

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FYI, This is from a trial in RI that has been making the waves in all the local outlets. Apparently the officer's kick was in "self-defense" per the officer's testimony.

http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2012/01/lincoln-officer.html#.Twyx2HoZ9R2

At the bottom of the page is a link to the video.

[–]Chudley 29 points30 points ago

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after hearing that he was going for self defense, and then watching the video again it makes more sense what he did... she kicked him with her right leg, and then could have kicked again with her left... but being trained to react, reacted with a block and a kick much faster than her; neutralizing the threat. Honestly does seem pretty much a clear case of self defense to me.

/but what do i know

[–]stfm 13 points14 points ago

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True self defence would involve simply stepping away.

[–]Hubris2 26 points27 points ago

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If it wasn't a woman sitting down in restraints, I might be able to accept it. I don't think there was a credible 'threat' to his safety here, worst case he might have suffered a sore shin - his response was to kick her in the head...the worst case would be massive injury. I could accept that it's self defense, but not that the reaction was proportional. He could just have easily have taken a half step back and there would have been no physical confrontation.

[–]RepostThatShit 7 points8 points ago

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The worst case from a kick to the head is death.

[–]Ragnrok -2 points-1 points ago

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He doesn't even put his weight behind it. The way he kicked her there wasn't any real possibility of serious damage.

[–]IAMGodAMA 11 points12 points ago

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A police officer isn't going to put up with your shit.

Arguably she could have been charged with aggravated assault, and aggravated assault on law enforcement.

[–]ModerateBias 2 points3 points ago

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"aggravated" no. assault yes.

"aggravated" requires a weapon, or some other factor that makes it more heinous then basic assault (such as threat of death, assault on the elderly, or children, etc)

She could be charged with battery however. Assault in most districts is defined as threatening or attempting to use force. Legally, "causing the apprehension of physical harm". Battery is defined by either- touching a person and causing injury, or touching someone with the intent to cause injury or insult. Touching generally includes clothing.

Thus, this is a clear case of assault and battery, but the elements for "aggravated" simply aren't here.

[–]GovernmentMan 4 points5 points ago

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may they come for you next...

[–]IAMGodAMA 6 points7 points ago

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and when they do, I sure as fuck won't try to kick the policeman.

[–]Hubris2 4 points5 points ago

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Yep, plenty of room for arguing both sides here. She was in the wrong for trying to kick and officer, and I imagine that charge was added to whatever got her in cuffs in the first place.

[–]linearcore 2 points3 points ago

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It doesn't mean that because what she did was wrong, what he did was legal. That's why there's currently a trial to find out if it was felony assault. Which looks like it is to me. Especially having seen the news and hearing even his partner is saying this officer wasn't in any danger.

[–]Scarbrow 1 point2 points ago

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She could be charged with assault, but the punishment for that is not for the officer to decide. It's the job of the court to define her punishment and sentence her for her actions as they see fit.

[–]Cyanotic911 0 points1 point ago

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I am glad you had time to think up that response. Lets ask him how long he is given to make a judged response to all threats he encounters on a daily basis.

[–]New_Wav 0 points1 point ago

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If he hadn't kicked he in the head I probably would say he was justified. Even knowing she was handcuffed you are a pretty stupid fuck to kick someone and not think you won't get kicked back. The cop will not put up with your stupid shit. He could of handled it better but neither party is innocent here as far as I'm concerned.

[–]Chudley -4 points-3 points ago

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all probably true; but i don't know what i'd do in the same situation... i'd probably kick her too though (and i'm not a violent person, but self defense training, is just that, self defense... split second decisions)

[–]wshs 1 point2 points ago

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If you kick a seated handcuffed person in the face, it's not self defense. Self defense is about preventing damage, not escalating it.

[–]Ragnrok -1 points0 points ago

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Yes, and looking back at this with clear hindsight the non-violent solution is obvious. In the moment, when you get hit you react. The cop doesn't sit there and think about what to do next, as soon as he processes that he's being assaulted he retaliates. There doesn't seem to be any particular malice here, just someone reacting to a threat before realizing that the threat is minimal.

[–]ModerateBias -2 points-1 points ago*

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Woman? if a man had done the kick would it be credible?

Sitting? Your contention is you cannot harm someone while sitting?

Restraints? Obviously this hinders her ability to kick.

Worst case is, she breaks a fucking knee by landing a solid kick directly on it. The man is trained to defend himself, which he did, seemingly instinctively in that video. The funny thing about reflexes, you don't actually have time to break down and assess the situation. He is trained to defend himself, was kicked, and so his reflex kicked in.

Was it hard to watch? Yes, but i agree on the self defense argument.

[–]whitneylovesyou 1 point2 points ago

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She was restrained, sitting on the curb, and drunk. She was arrested for being completely hammered and disruptive in a casino and brought outside. I mean, maybe a little bit of restraint could've been used on her....but a swift kick to the head? That just seems kind of excessive...

[–]Chudley 0 points1 point ago

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she was fighting inside before they pulled her to the curb

[–]whitneylovesyou 0 points1 point ago

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Thats usually what "drunk and disorderly" means. She was being disruptive (sometimes violent) and was arrested as such. Still, she was easily out sized by this officer, and obviously not in the position of power between the two. I personally believe without a doubt that his actions were excessive.

[–]Chudley 0 points1 point ago

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...i dont even care anymore, i'm not going to continue beating a dead horse. I've defended my point against the cop hating reddit long enough.

here's the story: http://www.woonsocketcall.com/node/4335

“The defendant reacted within a tenth of a second after being kicked, which is – in fact – human nature when someone's hit,” he added.

“In this case, this is a gentleman being assaulted … and he reacted in a split second,” Harwood said. “I think it's important that we look at … him being attacked, not attacking. With the witnesses, we get a pretty good idea of what went down.”

Harwood went on to say that Security Capt. Joseph Gleckman's testimony and video tapes showed Levesque had slapped or punched a male at the pub at least three times; and that Gleckman had stated she was highly intoxicated and needed a ride home.

“He admitted that Miss Levesque did in fact pose a threat … and attacked the defendant,” he stated. “He also said that the defendant's kick occurred within a tenth of a second … I don't know how anyone, in a tenth of a second, shows intent.

“Self-defense comes into play here, that's common sense,” he added. “The sergeant admitted that police officers have no duty to retreat, they have to make split-second decisions. He said you must place yourself in the shoes of the officer.”

“He said the force was objectively reasonable and that his use of force was reactionary … and that it was a performance error,” he continued, addressing Krawetz' claim that he believed to have kicked the woman in the left arm/back area. “There was no second kick, no second punch.

He indicated that Krawetz himself said he had taken three months of tae kwon do instruction in 1984.

[–]Kylethedarkn 3 points4 points ago

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If your saying self defense I think it should be in defense of your life, not getting hurt.

[–]Chudley 0 points1 point ago

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he said self defense of his knee caps... which he wouldn't have been able to work if she kicked them

[–]rtothewin 0 points1 point ago

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Just arguing for the sake of arguing here, but are you saying it is okay for someone to just come up and start punching you in the face(not hard enough to kill you, just enough to hurt) and you are not allowed to defend yourself?

[–]Kylethedarkn 0 points1 point ago

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Well I mean a cop really shouldn't.

[–]rtothewin -1 points0 points ago

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Yeah I think he should have just restrained her better afterwards, but then again I LOLed when I watched the gif, without the cop I'd have had no LOL.

[–]reddit--hivemind 0 points1 point ago

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Gender doesn't matter. Reddit doesn't care for cops or hearing what they don't like. Tis the reason for 30 people downvoting you. You forget, everyone here is an expert...at everything...from behind a computer.

[–]Chudley 0 points1 point ago

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thaaank you.

i'm by no means for power trippy police, but they have a tough job, but to me, only watching the video and reading the article, it seems like he's well within his limits here against an aggressive person.

[–]dahmerBundy 0 points1 point ago

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Surely him moving his leg out of the way is the 'defense'. the kick is retaliation

[–]Chudley -1 points0 points ago

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yea... after taking self-defense lessons for many years; i wouldn't call it retaliation.

[–]dahmerBundy 1 point2 points ago

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How not though? I dont understand. he defended himself by moving out the way....he then purposfully kicked her in the head

[–]Chudley -1 points0 points ago

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it's real easy to sit here in our chairs and say that he was in the wrong... but he saw that this was an aggressive woman, she was already fighting people in the bar/casino, she probably was hard to get on that step, and then she kicked him... to which he responded by blocking and kicking her back to stop her.

even if he was retaliating, from everything i saw and heard, i believe he was justified to do so. Until i'm there, in that situation and approach the situation differently, i'm not getting on the reddit high horse and pass judgement so quickly.

[–]dahmerBundy 1 point2 points ago

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now who's on the high horse here? I'm trying to understand how that classes as self defense, I get what you're saying, but this is hardly the situation you seem to be talking about. she was frogged and on the floor. not coming at him like a madman. anyway forget it

[–]chairtard 1 point2 points ago

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iDevice friendly video 1 iDevice friendly video 2

[–]sabbott1990 2 points3 points ago

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I key point in this trial is the fact that the officer put his foot back down on the ground before kicking her in the head. It makes it harder to claim it was just instinct or self defense when you have time to put your foot down and pick it up again before actually administering the blow.

[–]Ragnrok 3 points4 points ago

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Block, steady yourself, retaliate, all within about half a second. Definitely seems like instinct to me.

[–]sabbott1990 0 points1 point ago

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Ya I guess I can see the argument. No one really knows whats going on in his head, but that still seems like a lot of steps to go through in your head before kicking some drunk handcuffed person in the head.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points ago

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In the video, it shows while she was in the bar, she sucker punched some guy in the face. Right or wrong, she probably did deserve a good kick to the head by this point in time.

[–]CrazyMcfobo 21 points22 points ago

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HOW CAN YOU SLAP?!

[–]knumbknuts 26 points27 points ago

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Isn't that just like a chick, bringing a bare foot to a shoe fight.

[–]NoNoveltyHere1 1 point2 points ago

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I think you misunderstand, and entirely underestimate women's proclivity towards shoe options at all times. I bet she had a few in her purse, but just couldn't get to them on account of her being handcuffed.

[–]rasputine 53 points54 points ago

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Hm, not sure if misuse of force, or bitch was asking for it. Whatever.

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE.

[–]Scarbrow 4 points5 points ago

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Bitch was asking for it, but her punishment should have been up to the court, not the police officer whose sole job is to restrain and arrest, not dole out punishment as he sees fit.

[–]greenw40 20 points21 points ago

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both

[–]rasputine 9 points10 points ago

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Fair point. RABBLE RABBLE

[–]MaceWolf 2 points3 points ago

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My sentiments exactly

[–]PlaceboAffected 19 points20 points ago

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How unlucky of her to have hit the poor officers knee reflex nerve.

[–]shadowraptor 103 points104 points ago

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This was clearly an unnecessary use of force. The police officer should have taken a step or two back and then added the charge of assaulting a police officer to whatever she was being arrested for.

While she may have "deserved it," her punishment is not up to the police officer. She was already in custody and stepping back would have removed all danger. Once convicted, a judge could sentence her to the appropriate punishment.

[–]Mackinstyle 5 points6 points ago

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Man you Americans would get a huge laugh out of the Canadian version of COPS. To Serve and Protect is what to search for. 99% of it is just polite please and thank yous and no real running or crimes happening. Just drunk people usually.

[–]HerpingtonDerpDerp 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah Canada never had a problem with the Hells Angels killing politicians, police, or people in general.

[–]Mackinstyle 6 points7 points ago

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I did not say that. C'mon now don't bring that kind of non-logic to Reddit, leave it on YouTube.

What I said was that our version of COPS is hilariously bland.

[–]HerpingtonDerpDerp 2 points3 points ago

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You're right, I'm sorry.

[–]EwokLova 34 points35 points ago

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Absolutely agree. Our taxes pay them to do their job, not abuse it. People may be fucktards but that gives NO excuse for police officers to lower themselves to the same level.

[–]thetribute 29 points30 points ago

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Actually I bet you that woman thought: I'm a woman, he won't hit me, dose of concrete reality hit her pretty quick.

[–]Omnifarious 38 points39 points ago

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So when you think about it the cop is actually a nice guy because he doesn't believe in sexism and treated her equally.

[–]wOlfLisK 9 points10 points ago

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Alternatively, he could be incredibly sexist and was just waiting for a reason to kick her because she is a woman.

[–]porksmash 0 points1 point ago

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He may not be sexist but he's still a dick for kicking back.

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    [–]forkis 0 points1 point ago

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    Or, you know, she was drunk and wasn't able to put two coherent thoughts together. It's not all about uppity women being put in their place, there's plenty of footage of males doing dumb entitled shit and getting slapped (sometimes unnecessarily, as in this case) for it.

    [–]TED_666 0 points1 point ago

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    Are you the woman who was kicked?

    [–]listofdemands 2 points3 points ago

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    AMA Request? The woman that got put to sleep temporarily by the above Cop....

    [–]Nod_Narb 0 points1 point ago

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    Thank you for this.

    [–]Firehawkws7 0 points1 point ago

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    True, but you can't tell me you've never subconsciously responded to something like that in your life. Sometimes shit happens.

    [–]Rhythmos 2 points3 points ago

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    Ain't that a kick to the head

    [–]iforgotmyusername12 2 points3 points ago

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    His statement was that she was drunk and his goal was to "get her home safely".

    I would say he failed miserably in that regard.

    [–]jkreijkamp 7 points8 points ago

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    TIL reddit actually approves police brutality.

    [–]Ragnrok -2 points-1 points ago

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    Police brutality would have been a second kick, or a stomp. At worst this is overzealous self-defense.

    [–]I_Climb_Most_Things 16 points17 points ago

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    I like how the cop blocked her kick and kicked her in the face all with one foot. Never lost his balance or anything.

    [–]F-That 14 points15 points ago

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    He probably never looked up from writing the ticket. Like kicking people in the face is just part of the job.

    [–]F-Thatsbiggestfan 0 points1 point ago

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    I'm guessing he trained for that.

    [–]scribbling_des -2 points-1 points ago

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    If you watch the full video you can see that after he knocks her out he shows no concern for her well being.

    [–]F-That 14 points15 points ago

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    Of course. He just kicked her in the face. It's not like he gives one fuck about that lady.

    [–]F-Thatsbiggestfan 0 points1 point ago

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    Pretty much my thought.

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      [–]HerpingtonDerpDerp 1 point2 points ago

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      And how he kicked her so hard her hair changed color.

      [–]foodpenis 1 point2 points ago

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      anyone got the source? want to know the whole story..

      [–]whitneylovesyou 0 points1 point ago

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      It was a RI court case. The woman was arrested for being drunk and disorderly in a casino. She was handcuffed, brought outside, and this ensued. The trial is going on now. Even his partner testified on the stand that the woman was not an imminent threat to the assaulting officer.

      [–]bryandenny71 3 points4 points ago

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      Roadhouse!!!

      [–]denselight 2 points3 points ago

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      too much power in the wrong hands, police the police.

      [–]Did_it_in_Flint 5 points6 points ago

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      in b4 r/srs

      [–]SC0TTBL4M 3 points4 points ago

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      With their "Herpderp this is clearly sexist" bullshit.

      [–]mrzack 4 points5 points ago

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      HOW About FUCK both of em.

      [–]B_Provisional 1 point2 points ago

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      I knew it! I'm surrounded by Assholes!

      [–]kolnan 1 point2 points ago

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      Shizam!!

      [–]calbearspolo 2 points3 points ago

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      What did I just watch?

      [–]tuxedojacob 1 point2 points ago

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      The caption made me lose it.

      [–]screenshotted 1 point2 points ago

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      lose what?

      [–]thefamilyjules 1 point2 points ago

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      If you are a police officer and you can't handle being kicked (if we can even call it that) in the leg by a drunk woman in hand cuffs without then kicking her in the side of the head, maybe you picked the wrong profession?

      [–]abngeek 1 point2 points ago

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      If you are a police officer and you can't handle being kicked...

      Despite this common, idiotic misconception, police officers don't get paid to be physically assaulted. There's no more expectation for them being able to "handle" getting kicked than any other person at any other job.

      [–]thefamilyjules 0 points1 point ago

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      I agree with you 100 percent. I guess what I meant was that police officers should be held to a higher standard as far as their response. They certainly have more power than your average joe, and a certain amount of responsibility should come with that power. I don't think this guy really felt he was being physically threatened to the extent that he had to retaliate with that kind of force.

      [–][deleted] -1 points0 points ago

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      So awesome.... Cause, meet effect.

      [–]lool-g-lool 0 points1 point ago

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      Such a big man kicking a little lady when she's restrained.

      That poor cop, he was moments away from certain death.

      That or.. you know.. he could've eliminated the threat and kept his level of professionalism by simply stepping away. But a roundhouse kick to the face works better as "self defense" amirite?

      Citizens, keep your camera phones on the police, they do some funny stuff in the name of "the law".

      [–]CJSteves 1 point2 points ago*

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      I'd have to agree. Just because she acted violently against him and violated his rights, does not give him carte blanche to retaliate an order of magnitude greater, regardless of "disabling a threat" and so on.

      It's long since been established that the police are here to protect and serve... the public. Not you. Not me. The nameless, faceless mass of everything that is the public. With great power comes great responsibility, and I think too many people in this country are too busy fist pumping, hoped up on nationalism and patriotism that they are blinded by the idea that "If the police do it, it must be OK" or "If the Marines do it, it must be OK", and they end up supporting the Police in situations like this by following some arcane set of rules that basically state if you are a citizen and act out against any of our law enforcement agencies you might as well just give up your rights, whether or not you have a valid reason.

      I believe the main objective of the legislative, judicial, and executive branches of our government is the preservation, protection and development of the rights of citizens that agree to a certain code of conduct of this nation. It is my feeling that many of the people of the US no longer understand what that code of conduct entails and are quickly becoming blind to the injustices and changes facing this nation. It's like they are changing the rules of the game without the players knowing. They change them ever so slightly, slipping new clauses into books that 0.05% of the population will ever lay eyes on, and after the vote has been decided the public is none the wiser and it's already too late to change a thing....

      Sorry for my rant.

      [–]sappercon 0 points1 point ago

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      That cops got a nasty roundhouse.

      [–]dpmad 0 points1 point ago

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      ...at least he didn't accidentally shoot her in the head.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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      Don't kick a cop when you're handcuffed, silly white trash mom.

      The cop did the right thing. Shame most of reddit has the mind of a 14 year old who thinks fighting cops is the coolest thing.

      Seriously. She could have been a murderer and given the opportunity, attacked someone?

      Yeah...totally cool, because it was a cop. Radical dude! (100% sacasm)

      [–]nickytaco 0 points1 point ago

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      I'm starting to think more and more that NWA were on to something.

      [–]Masterke 0 points1 point ago

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      this

      [–]SirRosie 0 points1 point ago

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      I feel safe knowing that he waited for her to earn that kick in the head. It's okay, see, because she kicked him first. Got that? Become a cop! You just have to wait until someone strikes you, and then regardless of gender, size, or whether or not they're tied up, you can kick them in the head without consequence! Be a hero! Be a cop!

      [–]redditkilledmygpa 1 point2 points ago

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      if this was a black man getting kicked in the head no one would give a shit.

      [–]rgliszin 1 point2 points ago

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      how true!

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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      If it helps, I don't give a shit no matter who it is.

      [–]The_Angry_Gamer -1 points0 points ago

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      I think she's over reacting. The cop didn't even have his leg cocked back to do any real damage. A standing kick with no "wind up" doesn't seem like it would do TOO much hurt.

      [–]accretion 5 points6 points ago

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      I don't know, I don't think it takes much when you're talking about kicking someone in the face.

      I have to wonder what she was thinking would happen in that exchange.

      [–]firemarshalbill 6 points7 points ago

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      Well she was most likely drunker than shit, which would figure into the reasoning and reaction.

      [–]The_Angry_Gamer 6 points7 points ago

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      I never understood the stupidity of things like that. Why would she think that was a good idea? Must have been drunk or something.

      [–]souldonkey -1 points0 points ago

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      cocaine is a helluva drug...

      [–]aestheticreddit 1 point2 points ago

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      If he was wearing steel-toes, she's gonna have a bump when she wakes up.

      [–]Ragnrok 0 points1 point ago

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      Odds are it would be very painful, but he didn't even put any weight behind it. It's roughly the equivalent of a foot-slap.

      [–]GritzAnGravy 0 points1 point ago

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      Get rocked.

      [–]DubstepIsSubpar -5 points-4 points ago

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      I have no problem with this.

      [–]Abscheu -2 points-1 points ago

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      Bitch shouldn't have acted a bitch. Then she wouldn't have been in handcuffs or kicked in the mush.

      [–]newmansg -2 points-1 points ago

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      Self-defence. Sorry but self-defence for a cop isn't using less force than "might" be used on him, it's destroying the opponents ability to hurt the cop. If it's unarmed, you use unarmed, maybe you break the arm, too bad. If it's weapon, you use a weapon, maybe you disable an arm, too bad. If it's a leg, you use a leg, maybe her head hits the concrete, too bad.

      Just fucking don't provoke cops. Or anyone in general.

      [–]LurkerSociety 0 points1 point ago

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      Not sure if sarcastic or not...

      [–]Bazzie -5 points-4 points ago

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      Bitch had it coming

      [–]iTroLowElo -1 points0 points ago

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      Whats wrong wit it... a bitch hitting another bitch, seems like another reality TV.

      [–]Stickyresin -2 points-1 points ago

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      It may not be legal, but I'm okay with this. Too many people have that high-school mentality of, "I can mess with you but you can't mess with me back." Well, bitch, he can and he did.

      [–]Danny_Mc_71 -2 points-1 points ago

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      SNAPKICK!

      [–]gamer25 -1 points0 points ago

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      Give that bitch a kick to the face... bitches love kicks to the face.

      [–]levilarrington -2 points-1 points ago

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      Thank a cop

      [–]I_am_anonymous -3 points-2 points ago

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      Reminds me of Dr. Demento's Boot to the Head. I guess I don't have much of an opinion on the bad cop and the dumb bitch.

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