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[–]AmbientGoat 16 points17 points ago

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I've always been really disappointed that this series was left in limbo with the story unfinished. Of all the games that Crystal Dynamics did, this was always high on my list. Seems sad and strange that there hasn't been a new game for what, 8 years?

[–]Patorama 7 points8 points ago

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Well Crystal Dynamics got the Tomb Raider franchise which has pretty much completely occupied their time since TR: Legend. Also Amy Hennig, who wrote Soul Reaver 1,2 and Defiance, went over to Naughty Dog to do Jak & Daxter and the Uncharted series.

Crystal Dynamics is currently working on the Tomb Raider reboot and the probably already green lit sequel, so I doubt they'll be returning to Soul Reaver anytime soon.

[–]donoho 1 point2 points ago

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Aaaaaand with that, the mystery of the horrifically different quality in story after this point makes sense.

To date, the first couple Soul Reavers have The Most Amazing Stories I've ever experienced in a game.

Apperantly, we're not the only ones who thinks so.

http://gamerfitnation.com/2011/11/amy-hennigs-unfinished-work-legacy-of-kain-soul-reaver-series/

[–]Sladeakakevin 1 point2 points ago

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The story was already tied up by the final game. Although I do want more.

[–]AmbientGoat 1 point2 points ago

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I thought it ended with kane killing razeual (sp), his soul being absorbed the the sword, and kane about to go kill the eternal god thing.

[–]Sladeakakevin 4 points5 points ago

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I thought Raziel willingly let Kane absorb him into the reaver. Raziel Accepted his fate that he would always and forever be the soul inside the soul reaver. Then Kane killed the elder god with the Material\Soul Reaver in hand.

[–]AllanStanton 3 points4 points ago

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Yeah, but then there was Janos being possessed by the Hyldan and them remaining a serious threat.

[–]Don_Andy 0 points1 point ago

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Wasn't that resolved in Blood Omen 2 or was that a different timeline? I can't really remember.

[–]Kennian 1 point2 points ago

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never went that far, he looked out into the distance at the burning world and it cut to black....their cliffhangers were monsterous

[–]SlickRoach 15 points16 points ago

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"stupid HD remakes/re-releases"? But my Shadow of the Colossus :(

[–]Krizstof[S] 6 points7 points ago

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No need to be sad Bro. Got a copy for myself and it was awesome.

[–]showurnuts 2 points3 points ago

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Jak and Daxter, bro?

[–]roboroller 2 points3 points ago

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There are very few stupid HD remakes/re-releases. Most of them are of good quality games that deserve re-playing. Maybe it's just me. Heck, Oddworld: Strangers Wrath was just re-released in HD on PSN. How can you argue with that? You may very well get your wish someday, but don't bang on what's already gone down. It's a positive trend and one that may very well serve you what you want someday.

[–]SerpensStellarum 4 points5 points ago*

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"For my transgression I've earned a new kind of reward - agony". Dude, this game is from 1998 and I still remember the story. Actually, I used it to learn english - everyone in it spoke in this weird, yet beautiful style.

Also, as a young programmer, I could have not miss the game engine and the marvelous job CD did with it. Aside from the start, there was not a single "loading" screen, the world was a single whole and you could revisit the start areas using your later skills.

[–]FreeKaySoiD[!] 2 points3 points ago

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Legacy of Kain and Soul Reaver, one of the best Storyline

[–]Dog_Day 0 points1 point ago

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Don't forget the absolutely riveting gameplay! Draining humans of their delicious life-blood, or robbing monsters of their souls! I particularly liked the ability Kain had that allowed him to control the minds of the guards.

[–]1corn 3 points4 points ago

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You should give Darksiders a try! I thought it was somehow similar - and similarly awesome

[–]Zyclunt 0 points1 point ago

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Same opinion here, not in the complexity of story, but has the same gameplay.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points ago

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what is this

[–]SKMonkyDeathCar 20 points21 points ago

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Legacy of Kain.

[–]pacman404 13 points14 points ago

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Soul reaver actually, a spinoff of legacy of kain

[–]SKMonkyDeathCar 25 points26 points ago

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Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver

I'm cool with both of us being right. :)

[–]Krizstof[S] 7 points8 points ago

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This specific Image is from Legacy of Kain - Soul Reaver: Game intro for educational purposes

[–]adamsalem 2 points3 points ago

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Oh god yes.

[–]hommie126 5 points6 points ago

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I created an account just to leave a comment here, this games were amazing and the story needs a much needed reboot, tomb raider instead of LOK? I'll never understand that, sure major key people left the company but why give up? Tomb raider never ends why should LoK? It was an amazing game that should come back to the hands of the players.

[–]conekiller 0 points1 point ago

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Sales numbers and profit,

[–]Nutter246 2 points3 points ago

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you do realise there was 5 in the series so technically it wasnt a trilogy, but i completly agree with ya, fucking amazing games!

[–]Krizstof[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Yes, I'm aware of that. But to be honest the Blood Omen games kind of stand by their own. SR 1,2 and Defiance are a continuation of each other.

[–]pacman404 -1 points0 points ago

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Yeah, but they don't make any sense without the 2 blood omen games

[–]Krizstof[S] 3 points4 points ago

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I disagree, SR stands by itself with no problem. But yeah, if you want the WHOLE story... Blood omen is a must.

[–]Misiok 1 point2 points ago

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Actually, the games are called 'Legacy of Kain', and it's either Blood Omen or Soul Reaver, depending on who they focus on so they are more or less a series that just divide themselves. Like a book and its chapters. Defiance focuses on both so yeah. And while the games do stand well alone, you are missing alot of background.

[–]Krizstof[S] 1 point2 points ago

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Agreed. I always though a good comparison, on the way the story is divided, would be LOTR and The Hobbit.

[–]Game25900 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah i agree, you can play Soul Reaver and defiance and still get the story but it's so much better once you get the full background story of how Kain came to be who he is.

[–]texaschainsawjr 0 points1 point ago

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I think the biggest reason people don't associate the Blood Omen with the Soul Reaver series is because they didn't really get the popularity it deserved until Soul Reaver. Kinda like Fallout.

[–]funran 2 points3 points ago

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Who say's these HD remakes are stupid, I think it's a great opportunity for people who missed them to play them without being so dated.

[–]Krizstof[S] -1 points0 points ago

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They are ok, and I'm fine with them, that is why I'm hoping for Soulreaver. But you can't deny they sometimes feel like cashgrab from part of publishers/developers.

[–]ooo_shiny 1 point2 points ago

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The two I have definitely don't (Ico/Shadow of the Colossus and the Sly Trilogy), which ones do you feel are cashgrabs?

[–]howboutthemapples 1 point2 points ago

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The two Resident Evil games and the Splinter Cell trilogy didn't exactly have a lot work put into them.

[–]mattzm 0 points1 point ago

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I have to disagree on Resident Evil. The Gamecube remake had new elements added, additional puzzles, new enemies and bosses and even expanded the story.

[–]howboutthemapples 0 points1 point ago

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I actually meant the HD versions of Resident Evil 4 and Code Veronica, neither of which Capcom put much effort into. REmake actually is awesome.

[–]ooo_shiny 0 points1 point ago

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Ah ok, the ones I didn't give a shit about so naturally had no idea they weren't done well.

[–]funran 0 points1 point ago

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I feel like it's a mutual beneficial relationship, plus most of the time these games are budgeted around 10 bucks on PSN/XBL or 30 for 2 (god of war, metal gear) on console.

[–]Raziel66 1 point2 points ago

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Ugh, I can only hope that maybe we'll get some sort of announcement at E3 this year. Such an underrated franchise that deserves another chance in the spotlight.

The story was fascinating, the characters were interesting and memorable, and the puzzles were fun to solve.

Give me more Raziel!

[–]Axius 1 point2 points ago

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I was just looking at this earlier and thinking the exact same thing.

There was an excellent Dreamcast port of Soul Reaver that had much better graphics than the PS1 original. I would love to play through all the games in a 'Legacy of Kain Collection' thing.

It would however NEED to have Blood Omen 1 & 2 - while Blood Omen 2 is the weakest point of the whole series, they all need to be rereleased because they're just so damn awesome.

[–]RudyBagels 1 point2 points ago

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For the same reason you would like this in HD, is the same reason I'm enjoying most of the ones out so far. (God of War, Ico/Shadow, MGS) and more on the horizon ( Zone of Enders, Jak, FF10). I dont think it's stupid at all. They get to release a title with minimal cost, we get to ride a wave of nostalgia. In my opinion it's win-win. I hope they do remake LOK btw.

[–]SteelCity -1 points0 points ago

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Jak and Daxter HD is way, WAY, higher on my list.

[–]HappyVlane 0 points1 point ago

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I don't know who owns the IP right know, but this needs to happen. I loved this series as a child and want more of the amazing voice acting.

[–]SerpensStellarum 2 points3 points ago

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Tony Jay (The elder god) has passed away recently and his voice was spectacular.

i can only presume that the ip is still owned by Crystal dynamics, who are owned by Eidos, who in turn are owned by Square Enyx.

[–]sylvanochrome 0 points1 point ago

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I recently discovered that Tony Jay has done my favorite voices in pretty much everything i love. I'm very sad that he passed away.

[–]SerpensStellarum 1 point2 points ago

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As Elder god would say, "his life has run its course". He was a talented actor.

[–]Minimumtyp 0 points1 point ago

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Shit, it's a DT. Build Turrets!

[–]Shade_of_Gray 0 points1 point ago

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http://www.skylanders.com/sky/game-features

Do you see the resemblance?

[–]nucking 0 points1 point ago

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I never played anything past: Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain and Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver

Were the later ones as good?

[–]Krizstof[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I was kind of dissapointed with SR 2, mostly because of how short it was compared to SR. Defiance was a great follow-up, and I have mixed feelings about Blood Omen 2, but overall when it comes to story, they are all great.

[–]nucking 0 points1 point ago

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Heh, funny thing is, I still own the originals of them on the PSX and I even got Soul Reaver 2, just never got around to play it. Might get Blood Omen 2 and Defiance then.

[–]Atrixer 0 points1 point ago

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Just yesterday I was trying to remember the name of a Vampire game I played...Blood Omen 2: Legacy of Kain, one of those random PS2 games my brotherbought when I was a kid that I had so much fun playing - but hell was it difficult for me, I was about 10

[–]Kembada 0 points1 point ago

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I love these games, and I especially thought the voice acting was appropriately melodramatic and well done. "My eyes are wide open, Kain!" Rather than an HD re-release, I'd like a sequel, though, ideally with Amy Hennig back on board to manage it.

[–]Yannak 0 points1 point ago

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It's so annoying considering 1 more game would have tied the series up completely. Defiance's ending resolved quite a lot but there was still a few unanswered questions like what happened to Vorador etc.

[–]LarperPro 0 points1 point ago

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Gosh... I'm 20 and I feel so old when I tell people about this game cause they are like "Razhyel and who??"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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In-friggin-deed.

[–]LeGnosis 0 points1 point ago

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Got Sr1 for xmas, completed it before I moved back up to uni, now I'm past the light forge on the second one. Defiance is in the post on its way :D

[–]unimpresseddriver 0 points1 point ago

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[–]shadow1515 0 points1 point ago

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Oh holy shit yes. Why the fuck haven't these been re-released yet? I would buy a new console just for that.

[–]Skxsis 0 points1 point ago

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Oh man I loved these games, I need to go replay them all.

[–]itstodamnhigh 0 points1 point ago

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Yes...YES!i played the legacy of kain one and i fucking loved it as a kid oh man.my first nostalgia :DDDDDDD

[–]sylvanochrome 0 points1 point ago

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Another game i'd love to see re-released with honestly NOTHING but a graphical update was Sacrifice, a main character in which is voiced by the same person who voiced the elder god in the Legacy of Kain games. To this day i'm rather convinced he has a hand in most things i love. (He was also claude frollo in disneys hunchback of notre dame). But i'm right there with you. Anyone know where these games can be got for the PC nowadays?

[–]texaschainsawjr 0 points1 point ago

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I always thought Kane was a MUCH better character than Raziel. I felt like Raziel was too... whiny.

[–]men1kmati 0 points1 point ago

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I remember when i was like 13 I used to watch my older cousin play this game...I didnt own a playstation and it looked really cool. He never let me play it lol. I used to sleep over at his house and watch him play games all night haha. This game was definitely cool. Would love a remake so i could play it!

[–]ItsOlly 0 points1 point ago

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I have never actually played the full game. I remember playing a demo on one of those games the included like 5 game trailers + 5 game demos. From the 20 minutes i played, i thought that the game was awesome and asked for it for my birthday. Unfortunately, i lost the demo disc, forgetting the name, and eventually losing interest. Definitely going to check this game out now.

[–]kohan69 0 points1 point ago

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There are over 6 games...

[–]Spysix 0 points1 point ago

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Raziael, you are worthy...

[–]SOguy 0 points1 point ago

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I've been saying this for years. If they re-released an HD version of SR on a new engine, it would be a fuckin hit; well maybe not a hit, but it would blow a lot of other games out oft he water. Of course the game mechanics could use some improvement as well.

[–]Don_Andy 0 points1 point ago

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I wish they would just remake the whole thing with all the levels they had to cut out.

[–]HiddenRonin 0 points1 point ago

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"Kain is deified. The clans tell tales of him; he was mortal once, as were we all...."

[–]stauf7 0 points1 point ago

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A thousand times YES!

[–]Chaos_edan 0 points1 point ago

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what is it you kids say now adays? "shut up and take my money"

[–]prboi 0 points1 point ago

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I wouldn't call Metal Gear Solid HD Collections stupid

[–]MrWendal 0 points1 point ago

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Of all the stupid HD re-releases/remakes... the Legacy of Kain - Soul Reaver trilogy is the one I really want.

FTFY.

STOP THIS SCREENSHOT WITHOUT A NAME BULLSHIT

So say I and 2,458 other redditors

[–]Sladeakakevin -1 points0 points ago

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Yes, a million times yes

[–]cluich1 -1 points0 points ago

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UPVOTE FOR DREAMCAST

[–]TankorSmash -1 points0 points ago

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All I know is I* hated* the xbox game with this dude in it.

[–]coolbeansandpeas -1 points0 points ago

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Can we please start putting actual titles of games that we're posting about? Please?

Not everyone knows about the games you like.

[–]johnf420 -1 points0 points ago

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I cant upvote this hard enough.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points ago

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I can't remember the game where they had soul reaver and that vampire dude. That was a pretty awesome game that makes vampires cool again. They should make that hd.

[–]Mike_the_TV -2 points-1 points ago

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I'm getting my zone of the enders hd rerelease.. I am happy.

[–]Lostinyourears -5 points-4 points ago

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Of all the stupid HD re-releases/remakes... (Please explain...Most seem pretty logical. In fact 'Wraith of Kaine'? Seems like one of the dumber ones. Seeing as it has a cult following at best.)

[–]itcomesfullcircle 1 point2 points ago

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Wraith of Kaine? what the hell are you talking about?

[–]Lostinyourears -2 points-1 points ago

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Legacy... sorry my bad?

[–]giveme_thatcake 0 points1 point ago

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Logical in what sense? because they are popular? The whole HD thing is kind of dumb from a technical standpoint, they are only making the game run on 720 or 1080p. Without making better assets and nothing more. Some games still look great without the HD (MGS3, SotC, GoWar) and All those trophies/achievements are just little extras that doesn't improve the game at all. Funny thing is... all this could have been possible trough updates on backwards compatibility... but well.. you know what happened with the PS3 in that respect.