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holy shit bike wreck (i.imgur.com)

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[–][deleted] 531 points532 points ago

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http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/03/07/brazil-critical-mass-bicycle-event-accident-or-homicide/

[–]dblagbro 22 points23 points ago

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For those looking for more of the video that wasn't taken down for copyright: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYR5joj73Es

[–]SuperMoon 3 points4 points ago

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How could copyright have possibly been claimed on this?!

[–]dblagbro 10 points11 points ago

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The guy taking the video owns it. Usually if you take a viral video though you want it to be shared... once it gets to a certain point though some people want the money from the views / royalties / etc and they start 'taking it back'. I believe this is what was done in this case.

[–]DivineDevil 1 point2 points ago

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I am reading some of the youtube comments and they are draining my faith in humanity one comment at a time.

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    [–]jazzsonic 146 points147 points ago

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    Upvotes for you! I thought I just watched a gif of someone dying again

    [–]Lokikong 29 points30 points ago

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    Here is the whole video the gif is derived from.

    0:52 is the start of the gif footage.

    [–]DrDWayneLove 43 points44 points ago

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    Again?

    [–]thebassethound 87 points88 points ago

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    Happens way too often around these parts.

    [–]Hulde 12 points13 points ago

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    This is bat country

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        [–]Pyro627 68 points69 points ago

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        ...Was harshly criticized by netizens....

        Wait, who?

        [–]nakedladies 227 points228 points ago

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        I don't like "Netizens". "Internauts" is better.

        [–]lobehold 26 points27 points ago

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        Internet, the final frontier...

        [–]Nukgci 28 points29 points ago

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        i read that as 'the fail frontier'

        [–]mystikraven 6 points7 points ago

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        Both accurate.

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            [–]will_at_work 110 points111 points ago

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            NETIZENS

            [–]guinness_blaine 49 points50 points ago

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            Thanks for helping Grampa Pyro627 listen to the news. You're a good kid.

            [–]thejoe 43 points44 points ago

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            NETIZENWERFER.

            It werfs netizens.

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              [–]kael13 7 points8 points ago

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              This term seems to be part of my Computing course... I wish it wasn't.

              [–]JeremyR22 13 points14 points ago

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              Is your course a webinar?

              [–]paveln 9 points10 points ago

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              I hate you

              [–]shorty6049 1 point2 points ago

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              one day at work we had a web conference to discuss web conferencing...

              [–]tehsilverdollar 3 points4 points ago

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              Are you sure it was a course? Are you sure it wasn't NOTHING?

              [–]mons_cretans 1 point2 points ago

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              Just don't do anything that could bring back popular use of "web savvy", eh?

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                [–]platypusmusic 8 points9 points ago

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                Fantástico: Do you feel any remorse?

                Neis: Of course I have thought a lot about it. Of course what you’re asking me, I ask myself often: Did I evaluate the situation correctly at the time? I really think so.

                couldn't help but think of charlie m.

                Remorse for what? You people have done everything in the world to me. Doesn't that give me equal right?

                http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Charles_Manson

                [–]down_vote_magnet 31 points32 points ago

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                Yeah my first thought was "bike wreck" is a poor choice of title. Clearly a guy trying to run down cyclists.

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                [–]borkedhelix 1 point2 points ago

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                From the article posted in another comment, he's being charged with attempted murder. He may not have meant to kill those people, but that was manslaughter-grade negligence, imo.

                [–]Fappymeal 1 point2 points ago

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                Trying? Looks to me like he did.

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                  [–]foot-long 12 points13 points ago

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                  what happened to the driver, Jose Ricardo Neif?

                  [–]_prefs 84 points85 points ago

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                  He wasn't hurt in the accident.

                  [–]soymilkncereal 23 points24 points ago

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                  Glad to hear he is fine.

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                    [–]ZombieKingKong 4 points5 points ago

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                    TL;DR, asshole driver road raged, tried to kill as many as he could, used his son being 'threatene'd by bikers as an excuse for his actions. Murder charges are being brought.

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                      [–]mrmyxlplyx 271 points272 points ago

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                      The driver was charged with attempted murder. I can't seem to find anything that indicates whether or not he was convicted.

                      [–]lukeatron 31 points32 points ago

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                      This is the latest news I could find (translation from a Brazilian newspaper). It seems that he went to a mental hospital for evaluation but in early November he was deemed to be sane and transferred to a regular jail where he awaits trial. Another translated article seemed to indicate that would happen in a few months but the translation didn't make clear sense so take that with a grain of salt.

                      [–]danleeks 28 points29 points ago

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                      http://www.theurbancountry.com/2011/04/brazil-critical-mass-updateinterview.html

                      Charged of 17 counts of attempted murder, includes interview with Jose Neis (the driver), and has the full video of the clip in the link

                      [–]elephantx 6 points7 points ago

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                      The actual trial probably hasn't happened yet.

                      [–]lomeon 49 points50 points ago

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                      Thank you for linking that article!

                      What a horrible person. He loses his patience and runs these people down then makes up a completely horrible and indefensible lie about why he did it, all in the presence of his kid. Disgusting.

                      [–]cuddlesworth 440 points441 points ago

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                      Imagine you are trying to get somewhere. Like maybe you wanted to get some dinner and it's like 8:30 so nothing is open really and you're tired of the Chinese place by your apartment. So, you're on the road and you haven't eaten in like 6-7 hours and then you come across some bikers! You try to pass your time listening to the radio, but it's all commercials and you forgot the cable that plugs your phone into your radio (why do you EVER take it out of your car!?). So, here you are, cornered, this could add anywhere from 15 minutes to half an hour to your trip. What other option do you have but to just run over all the bikers so you can get to that sandwich shop you like across town?

                      I'm sorry, but this is squarely the fault of the bikers.

                      [–][deleted] 70 points71 points ago

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                      When I lived in San Francisco, I exited my garage with my Honda one evening to find the street full of bicycles. Critical Mass.

                      I needed very badly to use the street to pick up my brother at the airport, so I did what any member of Critical Mass would have wanted me to do: share the road. I edged my car very slowly and smoothly across the sidewalk, down the curb and into the flow of bicycles, being sure to match their speed and move slowly and predictably. Within a moment, I was completely surrounded by bicyclists pounding on my windows, spitting on my car and trying hard to kick it and dent it. I rolled with them for a couple hundred yards, absorbing the self-righteous anger that they have collected through their intentional martyrdom.

                      There's really no need to run these people over; if you drive slowly and carefully you can very easily make them look like the utter douchebags they are instead of feeding into their silly movement.

                      [–]savageboredom 10 points11 points ago

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                      I'm only a hobby cyclist, but this is my problem with so many of them. They bitch and moan about sharing the road, but don't follow the same rules. Absolutely I think motorists should be more mindful of cyclists, but the cyclists aren't helping themselves by weaving in and out of traffic, running red lights, and being cocks in general.

                      [–]justthewind 25 points26 points ago

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                      I've seen this before in the Northwest. They aren't interested in sharing the road when it comes to their events; they own the road and so far as they're concerning you'd better stay the fuck off it until they pass.

                      [–][deleted] 23 points24 points ago

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                      How much more awesome would CM be if instead of a bunch of bikes riding around like reckless idiots, it was a parade of polite car drivers and polite bicyclists interweaving gracefully? Unfortunately, while there are plenty of polite drivers, I think (based on every interaction I've ever had with a biker running a stop sign, riding on the sidewalk, not signalling, riding against traffic, kicking cars during a CM rally, blocking traffic intentionally on a monthly schedule) we'd be hard pressed to find any well-mannered bicyclists.

                      [–]hillbillyfunk 4 points5 points ago

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                      I agree, but there are civil cyclists, my group rides "Critical Manners", we are polite, obey traffic laws, smile, wave and generally do our best to bring civility back to cycling... critical massholes need a swift kick in the spokes

                      [–]Nick1693 1 point2 points ago

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                      Or, if you're in a car, throw a pencil in the spokes.

                      Also good: One of those metal Slurpee straws.

                      [–]eskachig 10 points11 points ago

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                      The whole point of Critical Mass is not sharing the road, the idea is to take it over completely and prevent vehicle traffic. So yeah.

                      [–]justthewind 24 points25 points ago

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                      Not only breaking the law, but damaging vehicles. Nearly every damned time I've witnessed CM, the bikers make a point of pounding their fists on cars that happen to legally be on the road while hurling insults at the drivers for...just being there at the time CM arrived.

                      So fuck you.

                      [–]eskachig 7 points8 points ago

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                      I've never participated in a CM ride because I don't care for their tactics. Just explaining that yes, they aren't interested in sharing the road. Their intent is to take it over and force vehicles out. Their behavior isn't a surprise - cars are the enemy.

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                          [–]Mumberthrax 4 points5 points ago

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                          I wasn't there, but is it possible that only a subset of the critical mass bikers would perform in this way, and the rest just were paralyzed by that weird social psychology glitch where nobody really knows what to do about bad behavior so they just kind of ignore it and move on?

                          [–]CitizenPremier 3 points4 points ago

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                          That is another kind of responsibility. They still should yell at the assholes if they don't consider them part of their movement.

                          [–]Mumberthrax 2 points3 points ago

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                          I agree that they're responsible for their inaction - if they were not explicitly condoning the behavior - I just know that people can be really weird and let crazy stuff happen even when they're standing just a few feet away. Regular people, you know? It doesn't mean they're crazy tree-hugging violent hippies for not stopping the people attacking the car, just confused. It doesn't help that being in a mob of people seems to warp people's sense of self and personal values temporarily.

                          [–]CitizenPremier 2 points3 points ago

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                          I think if you know that fact, you are more likely to be able to go against your impulse and speak out when you see something happen, or help a stranger who you see get hurt.

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                          I lived in SF for a while and every time Critical Mass came through, there was an argument with a pedestrian, a running of a red light, a disrespect or attack on a driver of a car. I think the full social psychology goes like this:

                          1. Have a personality where you get all wound up about something
                          2. Fall prey to the notion of "being part of something" or "saving the world"
                          3. Perform some antisocial activity
                          4. Get all fired up about people calling you out on being stupid

                          Obviously only a fraction of people are behaving like true morons, but the fact remains that if there wasn't a crowd of people in the middle of the road, there would be no opportunity for that fraction of people to be a dickhead.

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                            [–]AcneVulgaris 68 points69 points ago

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                            I've watched that video again and again, and have determined that the driver scored 312 points.

                            [–]cuddlesworth 19 points20 points ago

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                            GOURANGA!

                            [–]WannabeGamerDad 85 points86 points ago

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                            No idea why this is being downvoted, clearly sarcasm.

                            Or evil. Either way.

                            [–]cmack482 30 points31 points ago

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                            I think it is because if you look at a lot of the comments here they are not that far off from this, and they were not written to be sarcastic.

                            [–]Pit_of_Death 33 points34 points ago

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                            What is most chilling about many of the comments in here, that a number of them are meant to be "sarcastic" when they're obviously written with some measure of truthful feelings. You'd be amazed the shit that is said by some people who make it clear that they think cyclists deserve to be run down if they are in any way interfering with a vehicle.

                            [–]AcneVulgaris 17 points18 points ago

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                            I ride a lot, and I think this is exactly what those critical mass types deserve. They go out of their way to troll people, and I get shit for it when riding to work.

                            Don't be assholes, and people wont want to run you over.

                            [–]babsasf 51 points52 points ago

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                            I live in San Francisco and have to deal with Critical mass often. I've seen 20+ people on bicycles attack/mob a minivan with little kids in it because the driver honked once. The kids started crying and the massholes came close to flipping the damn minivan over. I've seen them provoke and kick cars headlights out for no reason. They yell, scream and are basically a bunch of attention whores who think they own the road. They do their best to provoke people into honking, or doing something that would "justify" them mobbing a car and showing off how "badass" they are because they ride bikes. Now I don't think they deserve being run over. But I'm not going to cry over it either. If you want to ride around with a group of 300+ people, a lot of which are doing everything they can to pick a fight, shit is going to happen. I have no problem with people who ride bikes. But the critical mass people are from what I have seen. Pieces of shit who are out to do nothing more than start fights, do their best to waste other peoples time and basically act like selfish assholes so they can get some attention. I literally believe the entire point of critical mass is to piss people off. There is no other purpose.

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                                      [–]funkbanger 41 points42 points ago

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                                      wait, its even better: "The attacker's name is Jose Ricardo Neif, aged 47, who claimed to have been threatened and attacked by cyclists and accelerated the car to save his 15-year-old son and himself.

                                      The Public Ministry of Rio Grande do Sul will prosecute [pt] him for “attempted murder, because it was a futile reason and the action made it difficult for the victims to defend themselves”. Ricardo Neif has a history of driving up streets the wrong way, driving on sidewalks and being extremely aggressive."

                                      From top link's article

                                      [–]groda7c0 47 points48 points ago

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                                      How bad of a driver do you have to be to have a history of traffic infractions in Brazil?

                                      [–]ghjm 8 points9 points ago

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                                      Bad enough to hold the accelerator down whle bodies fly every direction off your windshield.

                                      This isn't just bad driving. It's mental illness of some sort.

                                      [–]harebrane 2 points3 points ago

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                                      You really do have to quietly applaud when someone manages that. It's rare to see that sort of dedication to pure assholery.

                                      [–]yeliwofthecorn 44 points45 points ago

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                                      Ricardo Neif has a history of driving up streets the wrong way, driving on sidewalks and being extremely aggressive.

                                      It's... it's like he is a bicyclist driving a car.

                                      [–]bagboyrebel 10 points11 points ago

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                                      Coming from a very bike friendly city, I find this way too accurate.

                                      [–]Sysiphuslove 4 points5 points ago

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                                      Perhaps when a car driver and a cyclist mate, they create the one true enemy of cyclists. Not unlike the dhampir.

                                      [–]nodefect 9 points10 points ago

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                                      But he's threatened all the time!

                                      [–]lomeon 13 points14 points ago

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                                      And then there's this lovely example of the benefits of his obvious remorse:

                                      police investigators have decided to charge Neis with 'attempted murder'. Originally, they planned to file a case for 'criminal negligent injury', but in testimony about the incident, it was clear that "he was aware of the consequences of that act,"

                                      [–]XS4Me 10 points11 points ago*

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                                      who claimed to have been threatened and attacked by cyclists and accelerated the car to save his 15-year-old son and himself.

                                      This wouldn't surprise me in the least bit. Critical Mass has acquired a terrible reputation throughout the years. Most of their riding is intended to be as disruptive as possible, and they have a known reputation for disregarding traffic rules. Furthermore they have been involved in a long list of documented incidents, several of them involving assault and vandalism.

                                      Biking might very well be the way of the future, but the imbeciles from critical mass are akin to fanboys. They only scare folks away from what they supposedly are trying to promote.

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                                        [–]jabberworx 2 points3 points ago

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                                        I don't understand why the cyclists couldn't have all been riding in single file, also what where they all doing there covering up the entire road at the same time?

                                        Not saying they deserved to get run over but it looks like they were definitely trying to annoy motorists with their behaviour.

                                        [–]guyjin 1 point2 points ago

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                                        Because they've discovered that assholes in groups are above the law. So, unless people give them extrajudicial consequences, they will continue to do so.

                                        [–]pipechang 2 points3 points ago*

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                                        We had a similar case here a long time ago The case was in mexico (thought it was here), a guy went nuts and run over a bunch of kindergarten kids crossing the street.

                                        I'm trying to find the article.

                                        Here is the article and video. The only source I could find was in french, and the video is VERY NSFL[http://www.spi0n.com/automobiliste-fonce-sur-22-enfants/]

                                        [–]prmaster23 1 point2 points ago

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                                        Just a couple weeks ago here in Puerto Rico one guy (drunk) became impatient waiting for a parade to pass, he go up to the sidewalk and ran over a couple kids that where waiting for candy. Sadly one of the kids (a 10 year old) die. He also ran over a motorcyclist who tried to stop him, he dint go to far and police had to escort him because people wanted to take justice with their own hands.

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                                          These "Critical Mass"-Events piss of car drivers on a regular basis. Friend of mine took part here in Dresden and fell of his bike when a driver touched him with the car. The guy then proceeded to run several times over his bike.

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                                            [–]Pleonidas 1 point2 points ago

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                                            The instruction of the judicial legal proceedings ended on 02/12/2011. The judge will now decide if there will be a popular jury or not (from my person knowledge, considering the amount of doubt that surrounds the incident, the popular jury is almost certain).

                                            He will most likely get convicted (or, yet, absolved) this year.

                                            [–]platypusmusic 1 point2 points ago

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                                            Neis was granted habeas corpus and was released from prison. His habeas corpus status was granted due to the fact that there was no evidence that Neis had threatened witnesses or victims or destroyed evidence, so holding him behind bars would violate Brazil’s principles of presumption of innocence.

                                            I predict he gets a ticket for speeding.

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                                              [–]berryhill 25 points26 points ago*

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                                              This is what would happen if Michael Douglas got unstuck from traffic in Falling Down.

                                              [–]MustachioBashio 9 points10 points ago

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                                              D-FENS

                                              [–]punkmasta 23 points24 points ago

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                                              I want to see the video that the dude in the bike in the front was recording.

                                              [–]Eliotsajerkface 39 points40 points ago

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                                              Volkswagen commercials have really gone down hill.

                                              [–]shakakaku 99 points100 points ago

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                                              I'm a Golf.

                                              I'm a Golf.

                                              Suck my dick.

                                              I'm a Golf.

                                              [–]pushpin101 12 points13 points ago

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                                              typical vw driver...

                                              [–]steelfrog 11 points12 points ago

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                                              Oh come off it. I drive a VW and I never... well, not very oft... screw you.

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                                                  [–]NinjaAM 7 points8 points ago

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                                                  Why is the biker in the beginning turned around filming the car from his phone? Shouldn't he be warning the other bikers?

                                                  [–]ESAsher 23 points24 points ago

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                                                  Ugh. My friends tried to get me to go to Critical Mass with them once, and I adamantly refused. I think it is rude and immature to block the whole road on a Friday afternoon when everyone is trying to get home.

                                                  It doesn't raise bicycle awareness. It raises bike douche awareness.

                                                  [–]wasdy1 54 points55 points ago

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                                                  What an idiot! That looked like a brand new car!

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                                                  Probably not after it'd been keyed by cyclists

                                                  [–]catasaurus_rex 39 points40 points ago

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                                                  they keyed his car, so he... car'd their bikes

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                                                    [–]esmooth 1 point2 points ago

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                                                    Ahh...the old reddit switch-a-roo.

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                                                      [–]John_Barleycorn 229 points230 points ago

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                                                      Although obviously there is no excuse for running down dozens of cyclists, Critical Mass events are known for cyclists initiating confrontations with unsuspecting drivers. There has been a lot of violence and vandalism of cars since the beginning with these things. The article that DBreak posted to go along with this is incredibly biased towards Critical Mass and ignores the problems these events create.

                                                      ETA: Conflicts involving Critical Mass

                                                      [–]amisarebewaswerebeen 178 points179 points ago

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                                                      Critical mass is a stupid protest, it doesn't really get the point across of sharing the road because it does exactly what drivers typically do and clog the roadways.

                                                      As a bicycling movement, there needs to be a better way of getting the point across. Personally, I think it should start with law enforcement/police officers. Driving and parking in a bike lane should be a ticketable primary offense, for instance. I get cut off in the BIKE lane by CARS allll the time here in Philadelphia. It is dangerous even when you are following all the rules.

                                                      [–]c7hu1hu 20 points21 points ago

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                                                      I think it should also start with more dedicated off-street bikeways. I am a cyclist, and I think sharing the road should only happen when absolutely every possible alternative has been exhausted. I understand that's difficult in downtown areas, but I've seen sidewalks widened to be the size of off-street trails and painted with lanes. That's a damn good idea. Also, where I live, the bike trails that aren't crushed gravel are always in better condition than the roads.

                                                      [–]IggySorcha 1 point2 points ago

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                                                      If these existed in Philly I might actually bike there. Seeing how the cars drive, I don't intend to ever use the bike lane. And this is coming from someone who's usually deemed a daredevil.

                                                      [–]bbibber 1 point2 points ago

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                                                      If we in the Netherlands can do it in our old towns with historically small streets, there is no excuse why it can't be done in any American downtown. Your pavement is generally bigger than the whole street here...

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                                                        [–]MpVpRb 8 points9 points ago

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                                                        Making drivers really angry does not help the cyclists cause.

                                                        [–]jabberwonk 20 points21 points ago

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                                                        Here's a question for you regarding bike lanes here in Philly. Let's say I'm in the car lane as normal and need to make a right. Do I move over into the bike lane so I effectively block a cyclist from doing something stupid like trying to pass me on the right, or do I make my turn from what feels like the center lane across the bike land and just hope no cyclist came speeding up and ignores my turn signal? Maybe other cities have their bike lanes set up differently, but here in Philly they seem dangerous being on the right side of a driver.

                                                        [–]TheFobb 39 points40 points ago

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                                                        Not sure how things work in Philly, but as a driver I just slow down and wait for them to pass instead of trying to turn in front of them if I feel it's too close.

                                                        [–]amisarebewaswerebeen 15 points16 points ago

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                                                        I give polite waves to courteous drivers like you. Keep it up, and thanks for looking out!

                                                        [–]quadtodfodder 1 point2 points ago*

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                                                        But bikes are more or less invisible at times, and as one, I can tell you we appear from behind other vehicles and are past you in a matter of seconds, sometimes hurtling to our own deaths.

                                                        [–]admiralpuns 22 points23 points ago

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                                                        Easy - you use your sideview mirror to check if there are any bicyclists near you, if no you turn, if yes you wait and let them pass. Just think of the cyclists as other drivers - you are making a maneuver so you yield to people who are not.

                                                        (this is the law in most European countries afaik, not sure about the US)

                                                        [–]notyourmother 5 points6 points ago

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                                                        In the Netherlands, we have the rule 'rechtdoor op dezelfde weg gaat voor', which basically comes down to whoever goes straight ahead has right of way. If you make a right; use your mirrors. Don't you guys have such a system? Seems really weird to me, tbh.

                                                        [–]hupcapstudios 30 points31 points ago

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                                                        Our system is "fuck you all, I'm late for work and texting right now".

                                                        [–]WTFReally21 2 points3 points ago

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                                                        That is how the rules here are too. Not everyone follows them but if there is a bike lane you are supposed to give right-of-way to the cyclist if they are going straight and you want to make a right hand turn.

                                                        [–]notyourmother 1 point2 points ago

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                                                        Excellent, thank you. I'm a bit relieved, to be honest.

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                                                          [–]cheesesaurous 2 points3 points ago

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                                                          We have laws but the bike/car interaction rules are not brought up in driver's Ed enough if at all so neither cars nor bikes seem to ever follow them. Couple that with the rarity of bikes on the road so people aren't used to looking for them and you can understand why it's such a point of contention here.

                                                          [–]notyourmother 1 point2 points ago

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                                                          Thank you, this is something of a cultureshock to me actually. Really hard to imagine a place without bikes and bikers. Even harder still: a place where you can drive a car or even participate in traffic without proper training.

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                                                          [–]notyourmother 1 point2 points ago

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                                                          This is so incredibly hard for me to imagine. Isn't stuff like that punishable or something? If we try stuff like that we'd be fined so much we have to take another mortage to pay it off.

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                                                            [–]dclowd9901 2 points3 points ago

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                                                            1) Do not move over into the bike lane.

                                                            2) Don't cut them off.

                                                            If they were a little car coming up behind you, would you cut them off or turn in front of them? Then why would you do it to a bike?

                                                            That said, a well-engineered roadway with a bike lane on the right will have a designated right turning lane that crosses over the bike lane so the car can go through it an clear it for the rider, of course, being observant of the rider the whole time. The rider should signal their intentions as well.

                                                            [–]Red_AtNight 1 point2 points ago

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                                                            That isn't always the case, though. In the downtown core of a major city, they aren't going to widen the road to accommodate this. My city just sniped the existing right lane, and replaced it with a bike lane partially separated with planter boxes and median islands so that cars can't drive in it. The cars have no choice but to initiate their right turn from the center lane.

                                                            Of course this is why sensible Vancouverites don't drive downtown.

                                                            [–]Skulder 15 points16 points ago

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                                                            Where I'm from, if the bikelane is dedicated, and is not a shared bikelane/right turn lane, you make your turn from what feels like the center lane across the bike lane, being solely responsible for turning when the way is clear. Just like you're solely responsible for not running into any pedestrians in the crossing, when you're doing a right turn.

                                                            If it's a shared bikelane/right turn lane, you carefully merge into the shared lane, making sure you hug the curb so no bikes can pass on your right (because they are allowed to, but you're also allowed to block them - if you don't block, they may pass on your right), and again, if any collisions happen as you're merging into a lane, you'll most likely be blamed.

                                                            (I'm 99% sure that what I've written is factually correct, but I'm to lazy to link to the law, push it through an online translator, edit the grammar to be understandable, and then put it up here.)

                                                            But since you ask, you seem to not know, and that kind of pisses me off. Is Philadelphia like our stereotype of India, where you can get a driver's license if you have some good friends, and is able to pay?

                                                            I mean, you ask, so you don't know. How are you allowed to drive a car, when you don't know the rules of the road? (/ragerant)

                                                            [–]badasimo 7 points8 points ago

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                                                            The main issue with this is that bikers go TOO FAST. Pedestrians are visible and slow moving. Just like a running child is more dangerous than a normal pedestrian, a speeding cyclist is also more dangerous. This is one of the problems with fixed gear bikes, since any lost momentum is really annoying to the rider and stopping is less convenient.

                                                            I tend to bike slower because I am aware of this, and every time I cut off a car I feel like a dick afterwards.

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                                                            I don't think that's the issue. The issue is that the way our roads are designed are to favour vehicles and not bicycles. More money needs to be put into the infrastructure of bicycle baths and crossing signals. For example, Norway has invested money into designing roads and paths that are more bicycle friendly, as opposed to vehicle friendly. The result is that there are less deaths, and less people using vehicles for transportation. Many people would like to put the blame on the operators of vehicles or bicycles, but in reality, the designer of the transportation system is to blame. Many cities have a law about cyclists riding ont he sidewalk. For various reasons, right? A pedestrian can be hurt, the path isn't large enough to be shared, etc. Essentially, these are the exact same reason why a cyclist shouldn't share the road with a vehicle, yet we still allow it because there is nowhere else for them to ride. Well, unless the cyclist feels like taking the river path that was built 20 years ago. Regardless, I'm sure you get my point. td/lr the access routes of vehicles far exceed that of bicycle routes, and thats why there are accidents and hate towards cyclists.

                                                            [–]selectrix 2 points3 points ago

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                                                            There's a few good counterarguments to that, though, and Jesuscheese, in explaining the root of the problem (two very different vehicles attempting to coexist in an infrastructure designed for one), touched on one of them. Biking slowly- especially in areas without marked bike lanes- can be much more dangerous than biking fast because the infrastructure isn't made for slow-moving vehicles. The more one's behavior as a cyclist mimics that of a driver, the safer one will be- this includes acceleration and top speed as well as adherence to traffic laws.

                                                            Looking at it practically: every car that comes near you is a potentially fatal accident- matching the flow of traffic reduces the number of cars with which you will interact. And while cutting people off is a dick move regardless, it'll at least not take as long if you're going fast. (But seriously, folks: don't cut people off. Don't get in people's way in general.)

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                                                              [–]Letsgetitkraken 5 points6 points ago

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                                                              They're not any different here in the south.* Worse, where there is no lane cyclists are allowed to pass stopped traffic. So, 10 minutes of trying to pass a cyclist that thinks he needs 5' of road is often pointless.

                                                              *We do have a few roads that have a separate sidewalk just for runners and cyclists here in the suburbs of Atlanta. On more than one occasion I have had to swerve around cyclists who still use the fucking road. Their excuse is that using the separate bike lanes means they have to stop and wait for traffic at intersections.

                                                              [–]ndougla2 5 points6 points ago

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                                                              I attempted to ride down roswell road from the intersection of 285 into buckhead where I work. I attempted this ONCE. There are no bike lanes and the sidewalks start and stop with no rhyme or reason and have so many holes in them I'd never make it without a flat...got yelled and honked at for riding on the road, and I was damn near riding in the gutter...least bike-friendly city ever...

                                                              [–]Letsgetitkraken 4 points5 points ago

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                                                              You'd have to be half crazy to even attempt that ride. I wont even walk on that stretch because you need a rope just to climb out of the potholes.

                                                              [–]ndougla2 2 points3 points ago

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                                                              I don't get intimidated by drivers easily whether on foot, bike, or in my own vehicle...however, my balls of steel rusted a little that day...never again...

                                                              [–]dbeta 1 point2 points ago

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                                                              I don't live in Atlanta, but I can imagine the same issues here in Charlotte. The major roads are deathtraps for bikers, and the minor roads are too. On the big roads traffic moves fast and erratically, they ignore all pedestrians and bikes. On small roads hills and blind curves are everywhere. I live a 5 minute drive from my work, but I'd be risking too much to try to ride a bike.

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                                                                [–]the_mighty_skeetadon 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                As a guy who's been biking to work for many years, let me tell you why I sit at the very left edge of the bike lane, often -- car doors. In nearly a decade, I've only had one accident -- when a homeless guy stepped off a curb into a full traffic lane and I hit him (no injuries).

                                                                BUT the closest calls I've had are all car doors. People FLING car doors open without looking behind them, and if you're in the middle/right side of the bike lane, god rest your face. My closest call was a guy in a Ford F250 with door extenders -- already sticking out of the space, flung it so the door was open PAST the outside edge of the bike lane -- I swerved frantically, clipped my arm/shoulder/hip and cursed away at the insane adrenaline that suddenly coursed through my system.

                                                                If there aren't cars next to me, I'll stay right, but fuck car doors.

                                                                [–]bejayel 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                Well, would you speed in front of a car and then proceed to slam on your brake in order to make a turn?

                                                                [–]GoyoTattoo 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                Not sure about the laws in Philly, but I can only assume they are similar to how they are in Portland, and if you are trying to take a right, and there is a bike lane on your right, the cyclist has the right of way. That means they can continue in the lane and you have to wait to take your turn. They aren't "doing something stupid," you just don't know the law....

                                                                [–]remain_calm 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                A right-turning car is supposed to move into the bike lane before the intersection, anywhere from 200 to 50 feet before, first signalling the lane merge, then merging right to the curb lane, then finally making the actual turn when safe.

                                                                --source: SF Bike Coalition.

                                                                [–]TastyFace 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                Bike lanes usually turn to a dotted line approaching each intersection. In the dotted area, cars are supposed to enter the bike lane and use it as a right turn lane. Signal early, check your blind spot, and change lanes slowly if possible.

                                                                Really the only rule is "don't kill anyone if you can avoid it".

                                                                As a caveat, I haven't been to philly since I was fifteen. I'm assuming traffic law regarding bike lanes is consistent across states. Dotted bike lane = cars may enter if safe.

                                                                [–]selectrix 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                Can't speak for Philly, but that procedure's written into the California driver's license exam. If you're making a right, you move into the bike lane well before the turn, effectively cutting off any cyclists from potentially moving into your blind spot.

                                                                Any seasoned urban cyclist should know the risks of passing on the right (given the relative scarcity of turn-signal use), and they'll often pass on your left as soon as you've given an indication that you're turning.

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                                                                  [–]Colecoman1982 6 points7 points ago

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                                                                  I agree, but along with that there should also be serious enforcement of the road rules on bike riders. Running a red light on a bike should earn you the same kind of fine as anyone else driving on the road would get. The same should be true of riding alongside cars stopped in a lane (unless there happens to be a dedicated bike lane).

                                                                  [–]bananapanorama 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                  If someone cuts you off from a bike line, and it happens to cause you to swerve into them...

                                                                  EDIT: Disregard me, this is Philly you'll probably get shot.

                                                                  [–]JabbrWockey 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                  I was in a bike lane and got "bumped" off the road by a silver minivan.

                                                                  I went over the shoulder and wiped out. The mini van never stopped, and after using my shirt as a rag, I biked myself to the clinic where I got 13 stitches on my hand.

                                                                  [–]beccaface 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                  Total shot in the dark here, but did you go to high school in Havertown? I live in the Philadelphia area too and I had a high school teacher who was obsessed with the "to be" verbs that your username is made of (is, am, are, was, were, be, being, been, became and become.)

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                                                                    [–]shitterplug 63 points64 points ago

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                                                                    I got caught in the Seattle critical mass a few years back... I had my car keyed about a dozen times as cyclists rode by. Thankfully, it was a pretty crappy car.

                                                                    Most of them are out there to jam up the streets and cause problems... it's like a mobile riot.

                                                                    [–]opie2 12 points13 points ago

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                                                                    This happened to me in San Francisco. I am totally in sync with the need to be respectful of bicyclists and how much better our cities could be if more people rode bikes. But there are some serious assholes in the SF Critical Mass groups. Their ONLY accomplishment is to piss off people who have done them no wrong and to give the entire movement a bad name. They're kind of the Tea Partiers of the Critical Mass ride.

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                                                                      [–]MiskaTorn 39 points40 points ago

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                                                                      I've run into one of these groups before in Chicago. Not being from the immediate city I had no idea these things went on. I was dirving and suddenly thousands of bikers, not obeying the rules of the road came flying through and intersection not giving a shit and almost caused a few accidents. When I decided to turn through the intersection in a different direction of the biker and not even coming near them one of them turned right in front of my car and stopped and started yelling at me.

                                                                      At this point my brother and I started getting out of the car, after the things yelled what was to follow would not have been pretty. Luckily though 2 officers on bikes pulled up and yelled at the biker to leave and told me and my brother to get back in the car and directed us through the intersection.

                                                                      With that being said....

                                                                      I have nothing against people riding bikes on the road and I will slow down and move to the side to keep them safe. Though when they intentionally break the same rules of the road that cars are supposed to follow or intentionally inconvenience people like this of course someone is going to get mad.

                                                                      While I don't condone what that driver did running people over, I can certainly understand his frustration with these groups.

                                                                      [–]ekothree 81 points82 points ago

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                                                                      Critical mass protesters are fucktards that do nothing to promote a mutual respect between commuters and drivers. I commute on my bike half the year and I hate every one of those motherfuckers.

                                                                      [–]Crawlerado 32 points33 points ago

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                                                                      I agree with you 110%. People who actually ride aren't all Apple Fanboy about it. Just ride, safe, defensively and shut the fuck up about it. Blocking traffic and pissing people off is doing NOTHING to help the cause.

                                                                      [–]ForumWarrior 7 points8 points ago

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                                                                      110%

                                                                      You exaggerate by at least 10% sir.

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                                                                          [–]reddit_is_gay 117 points118 points ago

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                                                                          I bike to and from work almost every day. I will say though that these "Critical Mass" events are just asking to incite violence. If you have a good cause that's fine but to say "we are going to raise awareness by pissing everyone off! (grid locking city streets)" is a bad, bad idea. Not saying that the dickhead mowing down people was justified, simply that if you achieve your goals by being a dickhead expect someone somewhere to get tired of your shit.

                                                                          [–]ATG77 17 points18 points ago

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                                                                          Subtext: Always, ALWAYS bring you gun to a bike rally.

                                                                          [–]nixonrichard 19 points20 points ago

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                                                                          Keep it in the front of your spandex so it looks like you actually have a penis.

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                                                                            [–]platypusmusic 14 points15 points ago

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                                                                            car seems to be a much safer mode of transportation

                                                                            [–]turnleftdale 9 points10 points ago

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                                                                            Critical mass? More like Critical condition.

                                                                            [–]mull3tboii 5 points6 points ago

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                                                                            the guy filming before he gets hit...

                                                                            [–]staxnet 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                            That's the gif I want to see.

                                                                            [–]luft-waffle 4 points5 points ago

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                                                                            is that guy in the front just taping it with his phone? no, don't warn anybody just film it while it happens.

                                                                            [–]jambi1987 3 points4 points ago

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                                                                            http://i.imgur.com/Ew9Sn.jpg

                                                                            [–]mgarde 7 points8 points ago

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                                                                            Video

                                                                            [–]isosine 8 points9 points ago

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                                                                            http://vimeo.com/21278806

                                                                            If there is a hell, I'll see you there.

                                                                            [–]MOS6502 3 points4 points ago

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                                                                            This is the first post from /r/wtf that actually made me say "What the fuck!" out loud.

                                                                            [–][deleted] 14 points15 points ago

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                                                                            Critical mass is counterproductive, it annoys people more than it helps promote bike riding. This is horrible anyway and the driver should be jailed a long time for this.

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                                                                            Move bitch..get out the way.

                                                                            [–]fapsauss 4 points5 points ago

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                                                                            Context??

                                                                            [–]laetus 13 points14 points ago

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                                                                            Credits?

                                                                            [–]fmauro 12 points13 points ago

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                                                                            Carmageddon, it's been too long.

                                                                            [–]berryhill 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                            I feel the world needs a proper Carmageddon remake.

                                                                            ... and a proper Starship Troopers game.

                                                                            [–]mrsteeb 3 points4 points ago

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                                                                            Repost. Further context: Critical Mass ride in RIO, I think. Somewhere in South America. Google will tell you.

                                                                            [–]arthursoares 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                            It was not rio. It was Porto Alegre. :)

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                                                                                [–]jermslice 33 points34 points ago

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                                                                                That must have been around 1300 points!

                                                                                [–]rags5903 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                notice at the beginning the biker holding a camera backwards to film the car as hes in the path to be hit by the car

                                                                                [–]benny_lava69 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                I came here with hopes that someone will prove this gif to be a fake.

                                                                                [–]MusicMagi 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                hope she gets caught and prosecuted for this

                                                                                [–]communistjack 2 points3 points ago

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                                                                                one of my korean friends posted this on facebook as Asian Driver.

                                                                                [–]wouldgillettemby 25 points26 points ago

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                                                                                What type of fucked up person do you have to be to do something like this?

                                                                                [–]Quatroking 71 points72 points ago

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                                                                                A Grand Theft Auto player.

                                                                                [–]Rekel 17 points18 points ago

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                                                                                A Carmageddon player.

                                                                                FTFY

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                                                                                  [–]warhorseGR_QC 25 points26 points ago

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                                                                                  A banker apparently.

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                                                                                  [–]narky1 95 points96 points ago

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                                                                                  I'm all for bikes, but critical mass is just fucking retarded.

                                                                                  Lets show people that we deserve our spot on the road by riding like a bunch of dicks and deliberately blocking traffic. I can't see how it ever has a positive effect.

                                                                                  [–]gunch 67 points68 points ago

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                                                                                  They're the PETA of the bikers rights world.

                                                                                  [–]Excentinel 15 points16 points ago

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                                                                                  They do more damage than good. Yep, that accurately describes both groups.

                                                                                  /is it wrong that I masturbated furiously to that .gif?

                                                                                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                                  More like the Westboro Baptist Church.

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                                                                                    [–]Dirt_Bike_Zero 15 points16 points ago

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                                                                                    Exactly, their sole purpose is to provoke a reaction.

                                                                                    [–]Nall 8 points9 points ago

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                                                                                    which is why, when I see video like this, I can't help but think "You designed a protest with the intent of pissing off as many people as possible. One of them got incredibly pissed off, while operating a 2 ton machine. What exactly did you expect was going to happen?"

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                                                                                        [–]thecatgoesmoo 8 points9 points ago

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                                                                                        I know, who the fuck blocks an entire road with a bunch of bikes with the intention of pissing off drivers and causing confrontation?

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                                                                                          [–]tesserakt 10 points11 points ago

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                                                                                          Ever since critical mass started I purposefully walk slowly in the bike lane. Fuck those people.

                                                                                          [–]THISISREALMUSIC 5 points6 points ago

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                                                                                          Did not realize how douchey bikers are until this thread.

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                                                                                            [–]catasaurus_rex 11 points12 points ago

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                                                                                            If you want to ride your bike in the street, you should need a fucking license to do so, and be just as harshly ticketed for not following the rules of the road. I know that not all bicyclists do this but this is what I see from the bad ones: - don't ever look left or right when crossing roads, nor do they slow down - bitch about cars not paying attention to them but have no respect for pedestrians walking - never see them use hand signals

                                                                                            I know that lots of drivers are careless and don't watch for people walking/biking properly, but just as often I see people on bikes or even walking that pretend they are the only one there and ignore whats going on around them.

                                                                                            I'm not saying that this guy was right in what he did, but you don't just go being an arrogant ass to others who can easily cause you severe injury b/c you never know who you are pissing off and what they are capable of doing.

                                                                                            [–]xilog 14 points15 points ago

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                                                                                            Critical Mass are a bunch of arrogant cunts who deserve to be run over for the chaos they cause with their "unplanned rides which are not planned and therefore are not demonstrations so you can't touch us oh no we're envoronmentally friendly don't you know, you can't touch us".

                                                                                            [–]dmasa 4 points5 points ago

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                                                                                            To be fair. Who hasn't dreamed of doing this?

                                                                                            [–]anonymousrapeface 14 points15 points ago

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                                                                                            He obviously had to take a shit really bad and couldn't wait to get home to release himself

                                                                                            [–]crazejason 4 points5 points ago

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                                                                                            DAS AUTO

                                                                                            [–]kramthegram 3 points4 points ago

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                                                                                            Honestly I think this person should be persecuted to the full extent of the law. However, I do not feel sorry for the people who were injured. They were intentionally trying to piss of people in powerful machinery and breaking the law to do so. They may not have "got what they deserve", but they really shouldn't have expected that pulling that shit was safe in any way. Reckless dickhead activities lead to reckless dickhead repercussions.

                                                                                            [–]Crawlerado 9 points10 points ago

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                                                                                            Posted a million times, and while I would NEVER condone this type of senseless violence this is what's wrong with Critical Mass demonstrations. If the point you're trying to convey drives even one sane person to this level of violence, you're doing it wrong.

                                                                                            I've never seen or been to a Critical Mass demonstration that didn't end up with several pissed off motorists. Stop it. ಠ_ಠ

                                                                                            [–]ismaelchami 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                                            http://veja.abril.com.br/noticia/brasil/motorista-atropela-20-ciclistas-em-porto-alegre

                                                                                            [–]Frankstg 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                                            Why would someone even think about doing this?

                                                                                            [–]magpie3d 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                                            I could ha e sworn the Country Kitchen was over this way

                                                                                            [–]Datastream 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                                            Dolan: da fug u doin on hgihway

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                                                                                            I was expecting it to be set to "Move Bitch".

                                                                                            [–]micahshell 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                                            GTA: real life

                                                                                            [–]vegetas_sensor 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                                            I love that the guy takes cell phone footage rather than saving his own life.

                                                                                            [–]showstopping 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                                            anyone else hear that "move bitch" song from Ludacris playing while watching this?

                                                                                            [–]YouEatBabies 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                                            10 points for Gryffindor!

                                                                                            [–]DrMikeFeltercunt 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                                            pfffff... women drivers

                                                                                            [–]dman916ds 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                                            is it bad i laughed?

                                                                                            [–]bucketts 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                                            So, how many points is that again? ...I'm going to hell, aren't I?

                                                                                            [–]Djdcow1 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                                            Up vote for the blond girl that actually moved out of the way...

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                                                                                            500 points

                                                                                            [–]autechr3 1 point2 points ago

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                                                                                            AHHH DIE HIPSTERS!

                                                                                            [–]agbullet 4 points5 points ago

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                                                                                            BITCH. I'M A CAR.

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