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This is the most technologically ahead-of-its-time movie ever made. (i.imgur.com)

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[–]procrastablasta 69 points70 points ago

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Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey 1968. SFX are still flawless.

[–]UnemployedGrad 8 points9 points ago

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If that were rereleased today as 2051: A Space Odyssey, with only a fashion update, I doubt most people would be able to tell it was made nearly 50 years ago.

They'd probably wonder about the pay phones though.

[–]procrastablasta 7 points8 points ago

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I dunno. On a space station the internet might cost you, like it does in some hotels. In the "boardroom" scene, 2001 predicted cameras that make no noise when you take a picture, like they now do. Also the ONLY space movie I've ever seen where there's (correctly) no sounds in space.

[–]AUSternum 7 points8 points ago

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It isn't exactly consistent during the entire film, but in the beginning of the 2009 "Star Trek" film, the Kelvin has its hull breached, and the sound is cut as soon as the breach occurs and the crew members are sucked into space.

[–]JakeCameraAction 5 points6 points ago

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Serenity.

[–]Cromar 6 points7 points ago

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Nope! Firefly had no sound in space, but they compromised on the issue for the movie. You can hear all kinds of shit during the big space battle at the end.

[–]JakeCameraAction 15 points16 points ago

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Au Contraire!

That is because they are in an ion cloud surrounding the planet.

[–]bill_nydus 9 points10 points ago

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This is getting so nerdy so fast and I'm so hard and ready for it.

[–]JakeCameraAction 3 points4 points ago

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uh...

[–]LTComedy 1 point2 points ago

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The reboot of star trek had no sound in space.

[–]Jigsus 0 points1 point ago

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Eh sorta. It wasn't consistent throughout the movie.

[–]Warriorccc0 0 points1 point ago

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Also the ONLY space movie I've ever seen where there's (correctly) no sounds in space.

It's odd that the sequel did away with this.

[–]mattattaxx 0 points1 point ago

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Technically, the sounds in space during the Battlestar Galactica 2003/2004 reboot were meant to be sounds heard over the radios.

But that's not a movie.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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I was coming here just to say that. Good man.

[–]LNMagic 1 point2 points ago

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One day, I'll build a HAL-9000 themed PC, complete with "I can't let you do that, Dave" error sound effects.

[–]Achalemoipas 1 point2 points ago

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The making-of is on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTMYQ-mOFSw

It's the most interesting making-of I've ever seen. Everything was just an incredibly brilliant illusion that didn't exist before. He invented techniques for this movie, he even custom made his own cameras by combining bits and pieces of different cameras.

[–]dejanigma 0 points1 point ago

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The most impressive part is that all of the zero gravity scenes were done before man landed on the moon and before we had contemporary film images of people in a space environment. Kubric nailed it in every way imaginable.

I'm biased though, this is my favorite movie of all time.

Another good runner up for this award is Metropolis from 1927. It involves a cyborg who starts a social rebellion against the rich upper class.

[–]02J 0 points1 point ago*

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Yep. I hadn't seen 2001 until 3 or 4 years ago. I ended up watching it several times a few a weeks apart. Amazing.

That said, my appreciation for 2001, though immense is kinda academic, distant. It's something that produces amazement, appreciation and a smile. On the other hand, seeing Jurassic Park for the first time, in spite of having a strong grasp of CG was simply "DINOSAURS". They were not effects, they just were.

[–]maecena 15 points16 points ago

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Better than Terra Nova's dinos, that's for sure.

[–]BeerAndFrozenPeas 11 points12 points ago

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Metropolis.

[–]kwirky88 0 points1 point ago

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Came here to say this. And not that silly animated one.

[–]Kingo_Of_Uranus 0 points1 point ago

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Despite the obvious change in everything, I wouldn't say the animated one was bad at all.

[–]kwirky88 0 points1 point ago

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"Why when I was your age..."

[–]Ijustdoeyes 11 points12 points ago

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Pfffft, a 30 year old Blade Runner would like to have a word with you.

[–]NorthernerWuwu 3 points4 points ago

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The attention to detail and overall cinematography of Blade Runner are unparalleled to this day.

Technologically ahead of its time though? Eh, even as a rabid fan I'd have to question that. Most of the effects were models, although incredibly detailed model filmed in novel and interesting ways. Absolutely effective and certainly compelling but only really stretching the technology of film-making as an art rather than the science.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points ago

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Ahead of its time, but done the correct way. I cringe to think of a cgi version that would be produced today.

[–]RedditShmedit 14 points15 points ago

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This. Why do you think with all the advances in computer animation that everything that moves or brethes looks like shit (say for a few films). I feel that they now have scenery and nature down pat, cgi fire has gotten better. But when I look at that T-Rex it looks so believable...then I watch I am Legend and facepalm.

[–]Plow_King 3 points4 points ago

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the shot pictured was probably mostly CG. anytime you see a closeup of a head or foot in JP, or something like the sick triceratops, it's probably the late stan winston's studios work done with animatronics. anytime you see a full body shot of a dino walking or running, it's most likely a 90% CG dino by ILM.

[–]02J 3 points4 points ago

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I cringed when I saw that "The Thing" was being remade. A guaranteed heap of CG done the wrong way to poorly imitate the awesome traditional effects of a 30 year old film.

[–]Plow_King 2 points3 points ago

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which was a remake of a movie made in 1951.

[–]Fatty_Booty 1 point2 points ago

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It's actually a prequel. Not a remake.

edit: Still sucked though.

[–]02J 0 points1 point ago

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I haven't seen it. The impression I got from reviews was that it's kinda stuck in limbo, like it was supposed to be a prequel that sometimes thought it was a remake.

[–]drchickenbeer 0 points1 point ago

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I just watched the Thing for the first time this week. What a freaky fucking movie. The f/x have held up very well.

[–]02J 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, I saw it for the first time a few years ago. I was floored and genuinely a creeped out for the first time ever while watching a movie.

[–]onlive 2 points3 points ago

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If done today, the T-Rex would be doing ninja jumps off the walls with so much motion blur you'd hardly be able to tell what was going on. I really dislike a lot of CG today, it's like they can't get the movement down, "oh, let's just hide the fact that we can't animate with tons of motion blur..."

[–]Chugaboy 1 point2 points ago*

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It's what I call the curse of Legolas. There is a scene in the lord of the rings where legolas is running up the face of those big elephants. the realism was a fucking joke. Any time I see garbage CG, I can't help but to "so Legolas.." I wish I had a clip or gif to support this.

[edit] So Legolas..

[–]Plow_King 2 points3 points ago

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i know several animators who worked on that sequence. one, the lead, is probably one of the best animators i've ever worked with in my 15yrs in the industry. in this case, like in a lot of bad cg, it's the director's fault, (peter jackson), not the animators.

[–]Dr_T_Sanchez[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Weta represent!

[–]Plow_King 0 points1 point ago

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weta digital in the house.

well, i used to be in that house.

[–]Dr_T_Sanchez[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Where are you at now?

[–]Plow_King 0 points1 point ago

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sony imageworks

[–]Dr_T_Sanchez[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Cool... Vancouver? I just left Vancouver.

[–]Plow_King 1 point2 points ago

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yes, van-city. i'm getting too old to go overseas any more, and all the studios are moving here to save money before they all wind up in asia.

sigh.

[–]JakeCameraAction 4 points5 points ago

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Worst ever:

Burly Brawl.

[–]xHaZxMaTx 2 points3 points ago

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Wow. Those both genuinely look like cutscenes from video games.

I think what a large part of the problem is, as onlive said, is the motion blur. The way film cameras work, each frame is only exposed for half the time the frame lasts, so while cinematic films are shot at 23.967 frames per second, each frame being 1000/23967th of a second, the time each frame is exposed is roughly 500/23967th of a second. In CG, however, this limitation does not exist and the 'exposure' of each CG frame is much longer, relatively speaking.

[–]jveen 2 points3 points ago*

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This is probably somehow childishly wrong, but I always wondered why they couldn't make the CG scene, then film it with an actual camera to create motion blur.

[–]JakeCameraAction 0 points1 point ago

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You're exactly right.
That's why home movies shot at 30fps or 60fps looks so odd and fake. Our minds need to see the motion blur.
There's also the fact that the computer generated models just look so smooth and "un-gritted" that it creates another level of fake.
Take a look at a regular picture and then the over-airbrushed ones.

For instance: http://i.imgur.com/p9TLw.jpg

[–]xHaZxMaTx -1 points0 points ago

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Another good point: with CG, it's much easier to make something look 'perfect' than it is to make it look naturally imperfect e.g. blemishes a la your linked image.

[–]JakeCameraAction -1 points0 points ago

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Probably because making a perfect sphere is simple in a computer. Making an oblong human shape with pores and perfect movements is much harder.
Also, since we see human faces every day all over, we are much more inclined to doubt their reality.
This is the reason that when we see a cg planet or cg ship it never seems quite as fake as a cg face.

[–]wolfknight42 -1 points0 points ago

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Probably already know this, but this explains the phenomena http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

[–]JakeCameraAction 0 points1 point ago

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Ive read plenty about it but it seems that with the realism of modern games, and films using motion capture (Tintin, Avatar, etc) we've built a metaphorical bridge over the valley.

[–]dayjawb 0 points1 point ago

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I still cannot believed they used a bowling lane sound effect near the end of that scene.

[–]Chugaboy 0 points1 point ago

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Sooo Legolas.. That's much worse than I remembered.. yikes.

[–]shiftylookingcow 0 points1 point ago

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The scene in Two Towers where legolas does the impossible/awkward mounting of the horse is the absolute worst IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJcr6Pe0kxA

"I said, 'Let's just put [Legolas] on the horse sort of in a conventional manner.' And [Peter] said, 'No, no. I want something completely different; after all, you know, Legolas, he's an elf; he's got to have some special way to get on the horse,'" said Taylor. "And that's Peter's genius: he knows where to push and what is going to get an audience to cheer. When we first showed it to a public audience. Wow!"

Makes it sound like peter jackson has some of the Lucas-itis, he needs people to just slap him and tell him no. bad peter...bad!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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Wizard of Oz?

[–]Plow_King 1 point2 points ago

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that movie stands up so incredibly well and in so many areas.

[–]Skulder 0 points1 point ago

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except for shadows, which are all 12 o'clock.

[–]Plow_King -1 points0 points ago

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yeah, you're right, the movie sucks. ;)

[–]threading 0 points1 point ago

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Zardoz?

[–]gabbagool 5 points6 points ago

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i'd have to say The Abyss gets that prize

[–]craigdubyah 0 points1 point ago

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Watched this recently, looks as good as any movie made today.

[–]NorthernerWuwu 0 points1 point ago

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No, definitely not The Abyss: Special Edition. I am thinking of a different movie.

I do remember at one point they saw this weird machine looking/pink light thing that they thought was a fish, and later found out it was a probe of the aliens.

[–]Darktidemage 0 points1 point ago

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it's not a probe it is one of the aliens.

[–]Laez -1 points0 points ago

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Came here to say that.

[–]Iwanttobelive 2 points3 points ago

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The original King Kong was also ahead of it's time, they actually invented new ways to film during the making of the movie so that they could get the shots they wanted.

[–]Plow_King 0 points1 point ago

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yep, willis o'brien did the FX for the original 'king kong', and then had a young guy named ray harryhausen working for him on the original 'mighty joe young'.

[–]battleship61 2 points3 points ago

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I own the special edition trilogy and recently watched the 1st JP and the making of feature and they went in depth about how they created all the cgi animation and its pretty amazing to see because speilberg had no intention of ever using it, until they showed him some prototypes of what they could do. they worked off what was already being used in Terminator 2 and ran with it, improved upon it, created new techniques and really changed the whole landscape of using computers in film. i think what made this movie so amazing was that they kept that aspect of reality by using animitronics and cgi. i hate 100% cgi movies because it looks fake and you cant immerse yourself in it, at least thats what i think.

[–]Darkjediben 3 points4 points ago

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I think you should learn how periods work because otherwise your comment just goes forever and oh maybe capital letters too because i cant immerse myself in your comments at least thats what i think

[–]northbayray 2 points3 points ago

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"Hold on to ya butts."

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[–]procrastablasta 0 points1 point ago

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Good point. Tron was actually more "ahead of its time" in many respects. Just not as loveable a movie.

[–]loki00 -1 points0 points ago

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Fifth Element, Starship troopers

[–]kirtleykid 2 points3 points ago

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Upvote for picture of Jeff.

[–]KrunoS 4 points5 points ago

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The original Star Wars gets my vote.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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This needs more upvotes. Star Wars was a huge breakthrough in SFX and way ahead of its time. I really wish Lucas didn't upgrade it though. It was perfect as it was.

[–]harvskier 1 point2 points ago

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Relevant: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7155904/the-cult-jurassic-park

[–]blizzardice 1 point2 points ago

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Goldblum was definitely a being a Good Guy Greg in this scene.

[–]Laez 1 point2 points ago

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Un chien Andalou ?

[–]pointsandlaughs 1 point2 points ago

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I think Blade Runner was more ahead of it's time.

[–]majik89d 5 points6 points ago*

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STAR WARS paved the way for modern special effects...

[–]lachumproyale1210 4 points5 points ago

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again, see: 2001

[–]ProximaC 3 points4 points ago

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Star Wars and it's time lapse photography of models was simply built on the back of earlier work done by Harry Harryhausen.

[–]Plow_King 1 point2 points ago*

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you mean stop motion animation i think, not time lapse. harryhausen was indeed a pioneer of stop motion. things like the rancor pit beast, taun tauns and the chess holograms were stop motion in the orig star wars films. the space shots were mostly done with another process called motion control.

edit : also it's ray harryhausen, not harry harryhausen.

[–]ProximaC 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, that's probably what I meant.

[–]HanselSoHotRightNow -2 points-1 points ago

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I had no clue you made Star Wars mate. Thank you very much for your contribution to the special effects industry.

[–]hairyassandballs -4 points-3 points ago

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lol yeah because those flight scenes were truly realistic... didn't know sound happened in space or laser bullets were visible.

[–]Darkjediben 0 points1 point ago

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As opposed to the totally realistic reptilian looking dinosaurs in the pictured screenshot? Shut the fuck up man, it's a movie.

[–]hairyassandballs 0 points1 point ago

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actually, yeah. the dinos in jp were pretty spot on.

they didn't make up physics.

say hi to lucas next time you are going down on him

[–]Darkjediben -1 points0 points ago

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Actually, no, they weren't. The Tyrannosaurus in particular was probably around 30% more massive than the one pictured. In addition, a lot of therapods, Tyrannosaurus included, most likely had feathers. The sleek reptile look is NOT accurate according to our current knowledge of dinosaurs. Don't sit there and talk to me about physics, that has nothing to do with inaccurate biology. Never mind the inaccurate naming conventions involved.

Don't try to tell me shit about Jurassic Park, boy. I'm a Paleontology student.

[–]hairyassandballs 0 points1 point ago

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Good luck finding anyone who gives a shit.. just read some parts here and there of your post and saw you are a paleontology student... sucking the dick of a complete mockery of physics known as star wars.

laser bullets.. swords of laser that just stop.. space flight where ships can only move in the direction they are pointing.

Yeah, JP was a little more on the money than fucking star wars, boy.

lol, fucking paleontology "student"

Let me go ahead and pay a little extra taxes so I can support you when you graduate.

[–]Darkjediben -1 points0 points ago

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You're wrong for the reasons listed above :)

[–]underwms 2 points3 points ago

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Not ahead of it's time just done very right by actually making puppets and real life animitronics, not using CGI for everything.

[–]rasputine 6 points7 points ago

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The scene you are looking at was CGed.

[–]keozen 0 points1 point ago

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True, but as the guy before you said the key was to not use CGI for everything, just where it makes actual sense.

For wide shots, such as above, it's perfect as you couldn't really do that as an animatronic and you're not animating very fine detail, the brain's ability to suspend disbelief seems to have a better chance where it can fill in some of the blanks for itself as opposed to very close in CGI shots where the brain can tell (usually) that the textures involved "just aren't right".

You don't get that with animatronics as the textures are real, the only real problem with animatronics is the range of movement and scalability which doesn't have to be a problem with a skilled team.

[–]Opequon 2 points3 points ago

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Star Wars?

[–]lachumproyale1210 4 points5 points ago

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see: 2001

[–]fawkesthephoenix 2 points3 points ago

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Lord of the Rings was pretty ahead-of-its-time, too, wasn't it?

[–]UTC_Hellgate 1 point2 points ago

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The actual effects weren't but the engine they wrote to control the battle scenes was a pretty big deal at the time.

[–]02J 0 points1 point ago

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No, not really. It was great, in places, but I don't think it really fits the "ahead-of-its-time" label.

[–]danielbln 2 points3 points ago

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I'd say the whole Gollum stuff was ahead of its time back then.

[–]02J 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, Gollum was definitely impressive, didn't feel AOIT to me, but I can't exactly grab a contemporary to it so I really don't have a problem with giving it the AOIT label.

[–]Timthos 0 points1 point ago

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It wasn't ahead of its time. Jackson just understood that the use of models and camera tricks would be a lot more realistic than tons of CGI.

[–]Breakfastmachine 1 point2 points ago

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I'd probably put Tron and Star Wars on the same level.

[–]colaurelianobuendia 1 point2 points ago

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False. Terminator 2.

[–]BigNikiStyle 1 point2 points ago

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I was going to say exactly this. Well, not false. You know what I mean. Terminator 2 for sure. That movie still looks like it could have been made yesterday.

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[–]Darktidemage 0 points1 point ago

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This guy takes accuracy in quotations seriously.

[–]Seamus_OReilly 0 points1 point ago

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Why is this picture ALWAYS reversed? Or am I just remembering the scene wrong?

[–]laddergoat89 0 points1 point ago*

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I think you're remembering it wrong, I remember it this way.

[–]Seamus_OReilly 1 point2 points ago

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Nope: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Co3A3fLBo

1:43

[–]laddergoat89 0 points1 point ago

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I stand corrected.

[–]laddergoat89 0 points1 point ago

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Still looks great today.

[–]coolplate 0 points1 point ago

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I know, I saw the new show Terra Forma once and laughed at the graphics.. wtf.

[–]mappberg 0 points1 point ago

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2001 is in the same vein

[–]the_girl 0 points1 point ago

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Yes! I can't believe it's almost 20 years old. It looks SO much better, so much more visceral and real, than practically anything since.

[–]Frognaldamus 0 points1 point ago

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Even in modern cinema, films like the first Matrix film were far more revolutionary than anything JP did. Star wars, 2001, Blade Runner, Friday the 13th, even. All films that you could watch today and be amazed at what they were able to do in terms of fx, relative to the time period. Also, whenever I think of JP, I think of Weird Al's album.

[–]Skinnj 0 points1 point ago

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Stop fucking with my head. I just watched it yesterday for the first time since about 10 years.

[–]linkoo 0 points1 point ago

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Watch this, and rethink your statement : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oL1RE8JXaIw#t=104s

[–]brutalsun 0 points1 point ago

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The last star fighter...

[–]Niode 0 points1 point ago

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The guitarist from Tool (Adam Jones) worked on that movie.

[–]dirtymoney 0 points1 point ago

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I dont get why so many people love this film. Is it nostalgia?

Because IMO... its typical hollywood crap. Even "the critic" made fun of it.

Maybe i was just too old at the time (not a kid) when I saw it for it to imprint on me.

[–]MrJoeSmith 0 points1 point ago

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I'd say that and Toy Story.

[–]Onsalefor10cents 0 points1 point ago

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Citizen Kane was ahead of everything

[–]slcrook 0 points1 point ago

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Metropolis was and in some circles still is seen as the one film that was well beyond the age in which it was produced. I can't decide whether the OP meant the headline to be opinion, which is fine, or was trying to state a fact. If the latter, there is no substantiation for this claim, and would speak to a total lack of knowledge of cinema history.

[–]SquatsMcGee 0 points1 point ago

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I still feel like puppets > CGI always. I know Jurassic Park combined the two, but full CGI still looks cheesey to me.

[–]rabbitlion 0 points1 point ago

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George Lucas wants a word with you...

[–]cdrthire 0 points1 point ago

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Why after this do we still get fake-looking shit like transformers?

[–]Remy1985 0 points1 point ago

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Watched this just the other day. The whole time I kept thinking wow, this CGI has actually aged pretty well. Then I thought how weird that is to say in general.

[–]orilyy 0 points1 point ago

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2001: A Space Odyssey

[–]TomtheWonderDog 0 points1 point ago

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I always thought that of Titan A.E.

[–]Dijkie 0 points1 point ago

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I think that award should go to 2001, A Space Odyssey...

[–]Pvt_Area -1 points0 points ago

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Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, for it was the first photorealistic animated film, made in 2001, is truly a film ahead of its time.

[–]allonymous 1 point2 points ago

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That's true, but it really sucked in every other way, which is kind of a shame.

[–]Pvt_Area 1 point2 points ago

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Couldn't agree more. I just mentioned the movie, because when I first saw it, I would have never thought it's from 2001. I didn't like the "story" or anything other part of it except the well made graphics.

[–]Pvt_Area 0 points1 point ago

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Any other part* Damn autocorrect -.-

[–]roveboat 0 points1 point ago

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Sorry, but this is not even near photorealistic.

[–]Pvt_Area 0 points1 point ago

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Ok, let's call it first attempt.

[–]SweetLeafKush -1 points0 points ago

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You know it's great when the visual graphics hold up better than todays movies. Really astounding.

[–]ulbador 0 points1 point ago

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Back then CGI was pretty much limited to the professionals. Now anyone who has ever fired up a 3D animation program fancies themselves a CGI artist

[–]SweetLeafKush 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah... Then you had a few dedicated guys who looked at their work like pieces of art. Now Movie companies hire hords of fresh out of college tweens to do all the CGI. Completely ruins it. I shouldn't be seeing better graphic quality in video games than I do in movies. But I am...

[–]ulbador 0 points1 point ago

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This is true. Honestly video games are rivaling movies in terms of budgets and profitability now.

[–]SweetLeafKush 0 points1 point ago

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And story telling.

[–]debianmike -2 points-1 points ago

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nope.

Check things like Buck Rogers and Jason and the Argonauts, etc.

While awesome, this movie joins the ranks of many that came before it that pushed boundaries of story telling.

[–]SweetLeafKush 2 points3 points ago

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I believe the OP was reffering to how well the graphics have stood the test of time. The dinosaurs look real to this day.

[–]okbiker -4 points-3 points ago

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I disagree. Watch Citizen Kane with the commentary on. Incredible what Orson Welles did to advance film making into the modern era.

[–]redditrafter -2 points-1 points ago

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Metropolis. 2001. Star Wars. Jurassic Park. Avatar.

[–]OrnateFreak -2 points-1 points ago

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Yeah no.

2001: A Space Odyssey has JP beat by a longshot in that category.

[–]shitterplug -2 points-1 points ago

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It actually wasn't, they used little special effects.

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