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[–]SamKhan95 79 points80 points ago

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So you're being harassed for being black, huh?

[–]Xkot 67 points68 points ago

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Funny, that's how I feel as a gay dude living in Texas.

[–]mumux 2 points3 points ago

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I cannot upvote this enough.

[–]smoothhands -2 points-1 points ago

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lol

[–]CountNoAccount 148 points149 points ago

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Christians are such a repressed minority. It must be terrible for you to be forced to browse Reddit and suffer such abuse.

[–]hozjo 39 points40 points ago

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It would be even worse if he were a white male.

[–]SilentLettersSuck 5 points6 points ago

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[–]wicked_observer 1 point2 points ago

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It's a bitch if you don't believe.

[–]bassplayinboy7[S] -3 points-2 points ago

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Haha, I'm just saying. I realize it could be much worse, it just drives me crazy when people make assumptions because of idiots like Rick Perry and westboro baptist

[–]elSuavador 46 points47 points ago

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I think many people take issue with fundamental parts of the bible, and the ways in which it has affected society both localy and globally. Rick Perry is a gem for sure, but if you read some of the 'coming out' stories you may see that the problems are deeper than one or two exceptional cases.

[–]Thorbinator 9 points10 points ago

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Plus, fundamentalism in christianity is growing in the US.

[–]I_am_Bob -2 points-1 points ago

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No, there just getting louder.

[–]Lipdorn 1 point2 points ago

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*they're/they are (OCD)

[–]bassic_person 12 points13 points ago

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(Not OCD)

[–]ColMustard29 1 point2 points ago

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I like things to be proper and in order. OMG I MUST HAVE OCD, LOL.

[–]Thorbinator 0 points1 point ago

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[–]truthANDjustice 1 point2 points ago

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most real born-again christians are some of the nicest, most gentle, loving and caring people I have ever met. It is the many half-christians and posers, people who go to church simply for the social aspects of it as opposed to actually obeying the teachings of Jesus who cause the problems

[–]elSuavador 2 points3 points ago

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First: Look up the No true scotsman logical fallacy I referenced later.

Second: I am more concerned with the mindset of the devout born again, or equivalent in other religions. I don't mean to get personal but I just want to ask if you would be willing to do what Abraham was willing to do - murder his child because he believed that God asked him to. Those of us who do not believe in god find this prospect horrifying.

I agree that it would be nice if the pew-sitters would just stay home. It would be refreshing if everyone could actually say what they thought of religion - or one step further - if everyone would be honest with themselves about how they feel towards religion. If you truly believe that there is a god who controls the afterlife and demands personal servitude it will be apparent in your daily life - all others are agnostics who have not realized it yet.

[–]elSuavador 21 points22 points ago

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Also, many of us here are formerly devout, and understand the nuances of the religion intimately. "True scotsmen" believe it or not.

[–]monkeymad2 8 points9 points ago

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True Scotsman here: I thought the true scotsman thing was not wearing underwear when you wear a kilt? Are you not wearing underwear or has its meaning shifted?

[–]Thorbinator 12 points13 points ago

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It is an informal fallacy.

"All Scotsmen love haggis"

"but O'malley here does not like haggis!"

"All True Scotsmen love haggis!"

Basically you take a group and pretend unsavory individuals are not actually in the group. Religiously, It "means" Anders Brevik was not a christian despite all appearances because he is a PR problem.

[–]fookhar -1 points0 points ago

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Basically you take a group and pretend unsavory individuals are not actually in the group. Religiously, It "means" Anders Brevik was not a christian despite all appearances because he is a PR problem.

It's important to note that, as in your first example, it's only a fallacy if someone has first asserted that "no Y would commit Z," before he or she is confronted with evidence that X, who is a Y, has committed Z. If this person responds to this new information with "then X is no true Y," then, and only then, is an accusation of the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy valid.

[–]f0rcedinducti0n 3 points4 points ago

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So? It's all a degree of delusion. "It's OK because I'm not as delusional as they are..." But you still are. At the end of the day you both believe in an invisible sky wizard. The difference is that they actually practice the ridiculous things that are taught in the bible and you don't. At least I can respect that fact they are actually adhering to what they claim to believe.

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[–]ThisIsWhatICameFor 6 points7 points ago

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I think we atheists a bit more informed than you think.

I myself am someone who chose to be baptized at the age of 15 and went on to be a youth pastor. I don't make assumptions because of people like Rick Perry or the WestBoro folks. I make decisions based on experience and evidence. I encourage you to do the same.

And for what it's worth, the WestBoro folks are likely following the bible much more closely than yourself. Food for thought.

[–]TheDailyDerp 0 points1 point ago

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You cant be more ignorant than this. WB is an ultra radical group that thrives off of spotlight. The bible contridicts everything they stand for, and it's quite shameful that you imply that "atheists a bit more informed" when you can't recognize a complete crack head organization. Support your beliefs, but don't imply that your group is better, especially when you make yourself look bad.

[–]drobird 5 points6 points ago

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Well you choose to identify as a conservative christian. Why are you shocked that people think of the cheerleaders for that ideology?

No one thinks of westboro when thinking of christian's sorry but they don't and you are silly for saying such a thing.

[–]morgatord 5 points6 points ago

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..and the idea of "God"...

[–]Kalium 1 point2 points ago

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Then by all means, stand up to them. Until you do, it's up to the rest of us and you might not like how we handle it.

(Incidentally, this is the same thing I tell the liberal Christians who are upset when atheists rant about crazy street preachers but who can't be bothered to say anything in public.)

[–]chinahusker07 1 point2 points ago

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HATE the street preachers. It is like they are throwing up when they talk.

[–]hkdharmon 0 points1 point ago

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At least they have the class to not talk when they are throwing up (I suspect).

[–]glitterbypink 0 points1 point ago

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So, the people who believe the bible is the word of God... I thought that's what Christians were.

[–]stellarreject 1 point2 points ago

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Christians are the particular group that believe Jesus is the messiah... Many faiths believe that their religous texts were handed down from God other then simply Christianity...

[–]glitterbypink 0 points1 point ago

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But not the same text, I think all Christians should get together and determine what they're going to believe. It's frustrating dealing with every Christian saying "oh THEY'RE not REAL Christians."

[–]stellarreject 0 points1 point ago

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Agreed, but all it takes to be technically "Christian" is to believe Christ is the son of God. One could be the most horrendous individual in the world and be "Christian" cough Hitler! cough... In practice, a Christian should follow the new testament, where Jesus changed around some of the rules and then bacon wrapped scallops and cheeseburgers were all cool to eat...

[–]Roobomatic 0 points1 point ago

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your choice. It's not like you are born christian. you could stop anytime you want.

[–]bassplayinboy7[S] -1 points0 points ago

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I'm very aware, and I choose not to.

[–]erythro 0 points1 point ago

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...depends where you live.

Not all redditors live in Alabama.

[–]stonedoubt 23 points24 points ago

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conservative Christian is an oxymoron... What you really are is a fundamentalist. There are no real conservative Christians because Christianity isn't based on conservative principles - Jesus was a socialist in that story. It's just that people who like to label themselves as "conservative" have selectively chosen parts of the story to support their narrative and ignored the rest.

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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago

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Personally, I hide my Christianity from both atheists and believers. In both groups you can find rabid fanatics.

[–]MythOfLight 0 points1 point ago

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Same here. Well, not hide, but rather, avoid mentioning.

[–]Tommer_man 0 points1 point ago

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You shouldn't have to hide. I disapprove of people being belittled. Anti-theists are just as much scumbags as the fundies, but as an Atheist I can say that I will respect your right to believe whatever the hell you want so long as it isn't forced on me.

Live long and prosper.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Well...that's life. A long life to you too.

[–]Tommer_man 1 point2 points ago

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It's one part of life. Not the whole thing. If it were I wouldn't be wasting my time with living. Anyway, I hope that you find acceptance and good company. I wish I could help more.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Don't worry. :)

[–]StapleNinja 37 points38 points ago

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relevant:

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35lty4/

but i upvoted becuase I totally understand how reddit is haha

[–]cyvium 107 points108 points ago

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how i feel as an atheist IRL

[–]TruePimp 35 points36 points ago

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Right? You think your oppressed OP, try being an Atheist in the bible belt.

[–]Thoraxe 1 point2 points ago

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Or anywhere else. I bite my tongue about 100 times a week. I like to think all this self control is making me a better person.

[–]m0pi1 0 points1 point ago

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I really don't understand this. I am a conservative Christian but I don't oppress non-believers, because as a Christian I'm not supposed to judge anyone. "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven." - Luke 6:37

How is it I keep hearing atheists getting attacked for not believing in a God when Christians are commanded to love their neighbor/enemy and not pass any judgement.

Something isn't right here... Either Christians keep blowing it and don't even know what being a Christian is or Atheists take things the wrong way and start calling Christians haters, when they are just trying to love.

[–]mxms87 40 points41 points ago

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Try pretending to be an atheist and find out.

[–]stewartr 2 points3 points ago

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[–]Thorbinator 13 points14 points ago

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How is it I keep hearing atheists getting attacked for not believing in a God when Christians are commanded to love their neighbor/enemy and not pass any judgement.

Because GASP they don't all follow what they preach, or even agree on it is.

I have read about death threats, entire towns mocking atheists, and numerous counts of teenage atheists getting kicked out of their homes.

And before you say it, they are True Christians

[–]Kain222 1 point2 points ago

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They're also jackasses who misinterpret.

Religion doesn't make a bad person. A bad person makes a bad person. Thinking otherwise is too much of a convenient excuse to be logically sound in any way.

[–]Soylent_Veal 4 points5 points ago

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Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

~Steven Weinberg

[–]betterthanthee 1 point2 points ago

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But for good people to do evil things, that takes dogma.

FTFY

Not all dogma is religious in nature, and not all religions are dogmatic.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points ago

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I am a conservative Christian but I don't oppress non-believers, because as a Christian I'm not supposed to judge anyone. "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven." - Luke 6:37

And, as a liberal atheist, I thank you for that. But you're in the minority I'm afraid.

Most conservative Christians have absolutely no trouble judging people.

or Atheists take things the wrong way and start calling Christians haters, when they are just trying to love.

This does happen, co a certain extent. I'll get visits from the local Jehovah's Witnesses who really want to save my soul. Or someone will find out that I'm an atheist and decide that they need to convert me.

I guess I understand that, from their point of view, they're being helpful. Like saving a drowning man or something like that. But from my standpoint it's more like they're trying to convince me to drink the koolaid.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to theological discussion. And I can accept the possibility that I could be wrong. But that doesn't mean that I want to listen to some guy recite scripture or wave a Lighthouse pamphlet at me for a couple hours.

Just as it would be rude for me to stop by some random person's house and aggressively try to convince them that Horns is better than Twilight, it's rude for religious folks to stop by and try to convince me to adopt their religion. No matter how good their intentions are.

How is it I keep hearing atheists getting attacked for not believing in a God

For the most part, it isn't an active attack. It's more simply living in a hostile environment.

We've had politicians declare that atheists shouldn't be considered citizens. We're told that we can't marry who we want to, or have sex the way we want to, because it goes against somebody else's morality. We're forced to use legal tender that claims we trust god. We're pressured to pledge allegiance to a nation "under god". We've got state-sponsored displays of the 10 commandments or nativity scenes. We've got local laws that prohibit the sale of alcohol on certain days because they're considered holy by a specific religion. We've got various local governments trying to pass laws to enforce certain religious values and beliefs. We've got school boards trying damn hard to throw out real science, and replace it with their favorite creation myths. We've got government programs and policies being funded (or not) based on a specific religious viewpoint.

[–]kgenezk 4 points5 points ago

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As a Christian, I appreciate this. And trust me, I also get Jehovah's Witness trying to save my soul - I suppose Catholicism isn't good enough :)

And I totally agree with you in that we shouldn't press our beliefs on atheists (For that matter, no one should press their beliefs on anyone else). I've always thought that if the end goal is to make someone a believer, show them Christ, etc., then you shouldn't try to force it. Most people don't respond well to belief by force (I know I don't!). I think that the best way to spread Christianity is to lead by example. If Christians would get their heads on straight and concentrate on leading good, moral lives themselves, people will generally see and acknowledge that, and hopefully start associating Christians with kindness instead of judgmental behaviors. Kindness brings more people in. shrugs

I dunno. It's something that's bothered me for a while, and it's nice to see someone from the "other side", so to speak, with an open mind. :)

[–]hkdharmon 4 points5 points ago

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Dude, my mother-in-law routinely badmouths me to my other in-laws because I am an atheist, despite my having helped her move more times than I can count, let her live with me for free, gave her money when she is broke, helped her feed homeless people at her church, etc. He abusive, alchoholic, philandering ex-husband who likes to start fist-fights, however, is "trying to be a good christian and is just struggling with the devil" and "we shouldn't judge him".

[–]kgenezk 0 points1 point ago

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Dang, I'm sorry for that. That's great though that youre doing the right thing despite her apparent lack of appreciation.

[–]bw1870 1 point2 points ago

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There are also laws in several states stating someone can not run for office without believing in a higher power. I doubt it would hold up, but the fact remains they are there. Also, most people probably wouldn't vote for a non-believer, but that's well within their right.

[–]The_McTasty 8 points9 points ago

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Typically when children of religious parents in some areas of the US(mostly mid-west and the bible belt) decide that they don't really believe the whole god thing they have to hide it until they're at a point where they are financially stable. How would you feel if people you encountered already thought you were a horrible, terrible person because you don't happen to believe in God?

[–]SwiftyLeZar 8 points9 points ago

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I live in the South and have profited greatly from Descartes' axiom, "He who hid well, lived well."

Either Christians keep blowing it and don't even know what being a Christian is or Atheists take things the wrong way and start calling Christians haters, when they are just trying to love.

If their form of "love" is that difficult to distinguish from hate, maybe their love is shitty and undesirable?

[–]bw1870 2 points3 points ago*

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Christians may be commanded to be non-judgemental and love others, but that doesn't mean they actually are that way. Don't act surprised to hear it either. People are flawed, it's a major concept in your religion.

I live in SC and, by and large, people don't bug me about my beliefs. It's not unheard of though for Christians to make little comments here and there. Nothing big, but somehow just bringing up the fact that I don't think there's a god[even when it's irrelevant to the topic at hand]. I've even been called "nuts". I typically let it go, because to me they just sound petty, immature and insecure in their own beliefs. It makes me feel better for not being a part of the nonsense.
It has been a major sticking point in a relationship before though. She wanted me to hide my beliefs from her parents. Fuck that.

[–]PirateNixon 4 points5 points ago

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If "Christians" lived that way they wouldn't persecute homosexuals, blacks, Muslims, transsexuals, etc...

[–]TruePimp 1 point2 points ago

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Do you honestly Christians follow what the bible teaches them? xD if they did people would be executed for playing football on Sunday. Atheists are more hated in America than TERRORISTS and RAPISTS. That fact alone should show you how skewed their perception of us really is.

[–]kgenezk 0 points1 point ago

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This has confused me for a long time as well. I think it's most likely a mixture.

[–]haymakers9th 13 points14 points ago

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Wouldn't that vary on where you live and how much you would make it known to those around you?

[–]DarnLemons 1 point2 points ago

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As an Athiest. Ive honestly never been bothered by it once. I dont get it. Eh.

[–]Vitalstatistix 1 point2 points ago

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Say that in the South, Midwest, or really any rural town, and you'll figure it out pretty quickly.

[–]PhotoShopNewb -1 points0 points ago

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Ok, and you lived in all these places? or is that what you see on tv?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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From Texas.

Go to the wrong place and it's like being black in an all white neighborhood. Better be gone by sun down and hope your car won't stall there.

Yes, many people view Atheists as bad people and react negatively. This ranges from upfront harassment to violence to passive aggressive attitudes.

You want to see what America is about? Go check out what we did to the Japense-Americans in WW2. Go watch the George Carlin video if you want to know where I ninja'd that from. You'll see just how "Christian" Christians claim to be. It's just a few and it's not just the South.

Maybe you've only lived within a 5 mile block and are naive. Maybe not. Either way, I've been in many places... and in general: Americans hate Atheists. In general, non-Christians have a higher probability of respecting Atheists -- especially Pagens, who themselves are shunned by the Christian community (and many 'o years ago where brutally murdered from, you guessed it, Christians).

[–]PhotoShopNewb 0 points1 point ago

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I'm going to give you a little perspective, the op of this pic has probably never abused gays, atheists, or minorities, he's probably just some regular dude and a redditer who happens to go to church just as most Christian on reddit. Why do you persecute him? Should I now assume all atheists are judgmental just like you just because you lable yourself an Atheist? You are doing to Christians what you believe christians are doing to others. Why? Cause George Carlin tells you so? No Christian alive today burnt a Atheist or a homosexual at the stake. Stop pretending like they did just because you got into a few verbal arguments with some people in your neighborhood about it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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You're a very naive person and lack a view of modern history. Go explore the world. You'll see just how hateful "Christians" can be.

[–]PhotoShopNewb 0 points1 point ago

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Right it totally makes sense to lable someone today for what happend before they existed. Thats why all Germans are Nazis, all Europeans are imperialists, all Atheists are communist, and all Christians are racist bigots.

[–]Vitalstatistix 1 point2 points ago

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Louisiana now, after growing up in a town with more cows than people.

[–]ephemeralquip 0 points1 point ago

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i feel you. i've sort of become the "black sheep" in my korean family.

[–]enginedriver 12 points13 points ago

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Serious post and I know I'm going to get massively down voted but how can you be a conservative Christian? Jesus was practically a communist. He hated money and wealth, he believed in giving everything he had to others, he accepted everyone and anyone. It doesn't strike me as marrying with traditional conservative ideology?

[–]Tommer_man 44 points45 points ago

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It's funny because the reverse is true in the real world. You know, where it actually matters.

[–]haymakers9th 9 points10 points ago

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Would that justify what OP is describing on Reddit, then?

[–]drpon 6 points7 points ago

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Doesn't really matter. You can close reddit anytime you want.

[–]Tommer_man -1 points0 points ago

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I don't understand your question. If you're asking, is this picture accurate in terms of reddit: I don't know. Probably. We have an active atheist board but in terms of Conservative vs. Liberal you would be surprised. Sides: what do we mean by Conservative and Liberal? American version or the version the rest of the world uses?

[–]lovesmasher 2 points3 points ago

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Nope. Christians just love to look for ways to depict themselves as victims. It makes them feel closer to Jesus.

[–]Tommer_man 1 point2 points ago

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They aren't the only ones. Next time someone bitches about the liberal media I'm going to go crazy.

[–]haymakers9th 0 points1 point ago

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I was asking if, since atheists get harassed IRL for being atheist, it is okay for Christians to be harassed by atheists here. The implication was that it is not okay.

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He's asking if that would justify what OP is describing on Reddit.

[–]Tommer_man 0 points1 point ago

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And I qualified that with addition questions regarding it. I can't answer that question unless I get more context.

[–]erythro -2 points-1 points ago

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not all redditors live in the deep south..

[–]betterthanthee 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah but the ones that do don't realize that most of the country isn't like that. I'm from MI and no one would bat an eye if you said you didn't believe.

I think most of the angry intolerant atheists are from the South where they were raised around a bunch of angry intolerant religious people. They got over the religion but didn't get over the anger and intolerance.

[–]Tommer_man 3 points4 points ago

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I live in Canada. I know people who had to go through with Christian family practices or risk being disowned. It isn't just the Southern United States. It's a cultural thing.

[–]betterthanthee 0 points1 point ago

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What part of Canada?

[–]Tommer_man 0 points1 point ago

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Northern Ontario, arguably one of the more progressive parts. Close to Quebec in that sense, though not too physically close.

[–]betterthanthee 0 points1 point ago

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Well rural areas tend to be more susceptible to that type of intolerance, but while I don't know northern Ontario well, I have no doubt that it is MUCH more tolerant than many parts of the "Bible Belt." Down there intolerant religion is just so incredibly pervasive on all levels of society.
I'm sure where you're from it's generally much less pervasive.

[–]Tommer_man 0 points1 point ago

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Agreed. Less pervasive but still very real. I will agree that this case is less common but it still happens.

[–]betterthanthee 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, I'm not doubting it does nor minimizing the emotional trauma it inflicts on the victims. But I think the impact is worsened when the entire community thinks similarly to your bigoted family. I imagine that atheists/gays/etc anywhere in Canada have an easier time finding tolerant people than most people in rural Biblestan

[–]Aaronman 2 points3 points ago

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I've always found the term conservative Christian interesting considering Jesus was one of the most liberal thinkers in history.

[–]mysheettz890 8 points9 points ago

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[–]Ponkers 9 points10 points ago

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This is how I feel as a racist bigot. I just don't understand.

[–]the_great_ganonderp 30 points31 points ago

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I'm sick of tiptoeing around conservatives.

Conservatism is the engine driving the death of empathy for our fellow man here in America. We sit our fat asses down in our suburban plywood mansions while homeless veterans die of exposure on the street because the sacrifice they made for our country was too great for them to bear, and we abandoned them. We bitch and moan about iphones and twitters and not getting x for christmas while unseen armies of slaves toil 24/7 making it all possible because it is the only reasonable choice they have in life. We pray to some imaginary god for the most inane things imaginable, while halfway across the world there are children whose ribs stick out like the black keys on a piano, children who could be saved from near-certain miserable and excruciating deaths if only we'd all sit down and realize that we really don't need all this shit. But we pray anyway, aware though we may be of all this, because we think, deep down, maybe unconsciously, that we somehow deserve god's love and they don't.

You might say I'm amiss laying all this at the door of conservatism. But conservatism sows the seeds right here at home. It teaches us to hate and fear even members of our own society, to condemn them to a lower plane of virtue because they're different. Never once does it tell us to try and understand others, to put ourselves in their shoes, to imagine the battles they're fighting. No, it screams, red-faced, shuddering and frothing at the mouth, a message of pure fucking hatred. Pure ignorance. Fuck. That. Shit. That is the shit that will doom the human race to extinction before we realize our potential.

I really don't care what religion you are, though. If it makes you happy, that's fine by me. But remember what you're supposed to believe Jesus said, about casting the first stone and whatnot.

[–]saucercrab 0 points1 point ago

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because the sacrifice they made for our country was too great for them to bear, and we abandoned them.

A bit of tangent, but you hit on one of my biggest problems with the idolatry of Jesus. First, he was certainly not the only person ever crucified. Second, millions of people - for reasons much less admirable than the sins of all mankind - have sacrificed their lives for something they believe in. Yet, Christ gets all the glory.

Nice rant btw, I agree with every word.

[–]badash13 6 points7 points ago

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That's how I feel at work, considering I'm the only atheist. And in my community. And in the neighboring community. And basically in my whole life.

It's nice to have some other red ants around sometimes, even if it's only in internet form.

[–]inthrees 6 points7 points ago

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The problem is that the modern American 'conservative' movement is so far removed from the teachings of Jesus (who out of politeness I will refer to as a real person, but this sentence shows where I stand) that to those of us who would rather spend a few dollars on home infrastructure and aiding the needy rather than fistful after fistful of dollars on killing brown people, and who don't want any religion shoved down our throats, and who laugh at the idea of a 'war on Christianity' (maybe someday you guys can get a president or senator elected!)...

Well, there it is. The modern conservative movement is all about enriching the ultra-rich at the expense of everyone else. You could have a lexus and a 2012 loaded suburban in your driveway, a fat savings account, a nice 2 story 6 bedroom house attached to that driveway, and the powers behind the Republican Party look at you as fodder, to be pillaged.

And you don't see it.

[–]clearglassmirror 0 points1 point ago

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I don't appreciate you shoving your beliefs down my throat.

[–]inthrees 0 points1 point ago

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The difference here is - this is discourse. Expression. What I'm worried about is legislation with a religious slant. Too much of it, too much of it in the pipeline.

But sorry for oppressing you, sure.

[–]clearglassmirror 0 points1 point ago

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Point being, no matter the intent shoving beliefs is shoving beliefs. We all do it when we talk about, well, anything. Fact of the matter is nonbelievers just don't want to even HEAR god-fearing beliefs. Has nothing to do with being shoved down throats. Non believers have this tendency to only be open to discussion, so long as its not a believer on the other side. But of no course nobody will admit that because it's obviously shallow. About legislation, being totally serious, what are your reasons for not wanting a religious slant?

[–]kontjo 2 points3 points ago

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Being christian is like having an imaginary friend

[–]UsernameCensored 4 points5 points ago

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like

[–]ivanmarsh 9 points10 points ago

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Did you just spout some ridiculous religious bullshit in the middle of a group of intelligent people expecting them to all accept it as unquestionable fact?

[–]Skreech2011 1 point2 points ago

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In my opinion Rev_Terror kind of failed with his trolling. He wasn't very good at it...

[–]Pakayaro 1 point2 points ago

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Why's it always gotta be a black thing?

[–]WeaponsHot 1 point2 points ago

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Try being a Gay guy in conservative central CA surrounded by worthless conservative christians. (take note of MY capitalization)

[–]nicknack50 1 point2 points ago

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You feel like an Argentine ant? So there are millions of you that no one can get rid of.

[–]MythOfLight 1 point2 points ago

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You know, I'm a moderate liberal, but I feel bad about the people tearing you apart in the comments....

[–]BokehBurgher 3 points4 points ago*

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what are you doing on reddit? you should know we don't allow conservative christian's here..

Edit: Hey, I take my order's from spell check, ok...

[–]drakeypoo 8 points9 points ago

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Uh oh! Here comes an 's'! Better use an apostrophe!

[–]mightycow 5 points6 points ago

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Watch out, we got a bad 's' over here!

[–]Subcidal 2 points3 points ago

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Its nice to know we're thought of as fire ants.

Silly black ant's, Pray to your god!

[–]waxoff 2 points3 points ago

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It's only fair. That's how we liberal atheists feel in real life.

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You know, you can be whatever the fuck you want but don't bother arguing about your points on reddit or the internet in general - just be nice to people and don't harm anyone. That's the idea of religion and/or the human moral. Just because your way of life has a book of how to live better together doesn't mean you have to get picked on - but unfortunately this book also contains a guy who clapped his hands and everything existed. It contains massive demonstration of sexism, racism and almost cult-like behavior. But if you pick the "good stuff" and leave all that old-fashioned bullshit behind you, it describes a pretty good way to live together - and that's what you should focus on.

I am agnostic - Means, either there is no god or his existence is irrelevant for our lives and the way things are, so I don't bother thinking about it much. But I'm sure that if the (for me most unlikely) case would happen and a deity really existed, it would prefer guys like me, who spent most of my time trying to live a good life, being nice to people and care about them. And it would surely not prefer guys like some hardcore catholics who go to Africa and spread the word that condoms are against "God's will", directly helping in AIDS distribution.

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[–]Barnowl79 10 points11 points ago

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Questioning religion is like eating potato chips, betcha can't ask just one.

[–]The_McTasty 0 points1 point ago

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I was in the same position a couple of months back. From a young age I was raised Christian but I had unanswered questions that I desired to resolve because it felt like an itch I couldn't reach on my own. So I did a lot of looking around for the answers and found this video series I warn you though, if you don't want your beliefs questioned to the very core then don't watch. But if you want to find the answers to your questions it's a very good way to find them.

[–]fanaticflyer -2 points-1 points ago

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Yeah because your life's perspective is the only one on this planet.

[–]Razorwire_Dave 3 points4 points ago

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OP you are not alone. I also believe in Jesus magic and that the earth is only 6,000 years old even though there is a huge amount of scientific evidence to prove otherwise.

I know that my faith is more powerful than facts and science.

God put himself into the virgin Mary to be able to make himself a man so he could be killed so we could be forgiven for the sins that God says are bad.

[–]ravenrue -2 points-1 points ago

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What Christian sects actually believe the earth is 6,000 years old? I don't know any priests personally that believe that nonsense.

[–]Razorwire_Dave 0 points1 point ago

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According to Wikipedia only these churches actually believe the Bible is true and believe in a 6,000 year old earth.

Adhering church bodies:

Evangelical Reformed Presbyterian Church

Lutheran Church Missouri Synod

Seventh-Day Adventist Church

[–]ravenrue 0 points1 point ago

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wow! My friend is Sabadista but she never told me about the earth being only 6,000 years old. Maybe she too found it a silly concept.

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Stick around, read the good posts. You won't be either for long.

[–]Cheddarwurst 1 point2 points ago

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GET HIM, EVERYBODY!

[–]Aethelstan -1 points0 points ago

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Looks like they already have; the comments on this thread are pathetic - straight out of YouTube.

[–]cvillemike 1 point2 points ago

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Awwww, you poor baby.

[–]Stegosaurus5 1 point2 points ago

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and I see nothing wrong with this.

[–]rshoffman 1 point2 points ago

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That's not a picture of a person with no brain.

[–]deruben 0 points1 point ago

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I.HAVE.NO.MERCY.FOR.YOU.not_a_single_fucking_bit then tell your people to stop being an asshole to minorities in real life

~ent, atheist, realist and drug using deruben

[–]_youngdeezy_ 2 points3 points ago

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i know how you feel brotherman. it's tough when crazies like rick perry kinda ruin it for the other normal christians everywhere else.

[–]Numlocks 2 points3 points ago

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Why do you even care?

[–]footinmymouth 0 points1 point ago

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so say we all.

[–]test_tickles 0 points1 point ago

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you just can't handle the truth.

[–]B_Provisional 0 points1 point ago

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Try posting as a liberal atheist on predominately conservative forums and see how you are treated.

[–]yanniyi 0 points1 point ago

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as a moderate atheist this is how i always feel living in the south

[–]deathsythe 0 points1 point ago

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Fellow conservative here. Jon Huntsman supporter.

I feel for you bro.

[–]hayniesam 0 points1 point ago

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Great job bassplayinboy7. You Fucked us. I'm not a conservative Christian but a Christian and now all these non Christians hate ALL Christians! I am so fucking liberal and now none of us will ever be liked.

[–]clearglassmirror 0 points1 point ago

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This post hasn't done anything to warrant such an emotional response. We [christians] are already not liked. For instance Jesus got crucified, Paul beheaded, Mark dragged through the streets by horses, Luke hanged, Peter crucified upside down. I could keep going. Need I say more?

[–]scrunci 0 points1 point ago

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For frame of reference, that little hole is the size of a quarter. Sleep easy reddit.

[–]TruthinessHurts 0 points1 point ago

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Ugh. Right wing AND false Christian. You sound like everything wrong with America.

Just so you know, that combo sounds like the most ignorant Republican asshole I can imagine. Being a right wing scumbag while using perverted Christianity to justify it. You're the folks who REALLY sicken me.

Jesus would NOT be a conservative.

[–]markusgarvey 0 points1 point ago

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conservative Christian=Double negative...

[–]erkose 0 points1 point ago

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So we learned to draw and quarter from ants.

[–]funkbeast 2 points3 points ago

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... that or they're dangerously smart and observant...

[–]Tommer_man 5 points6 points ago

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I for one welcome our new ant overlords

[–]erkose 4 points5 points ago

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But which are the Christians. I say the red ones based on the Inquisition.

[–]ruinmaker 2 points3 points ago

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No one expects the Ant Inquisition!

[–]fett4evr 0 points1 point ago

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you and me both brother

[–]Saint947 0 points1 point ago

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OP, this post has only chummed the waters.

But don't worry, we're both in the same boat :)

[–]zombie_zebra 0 points1 point ago

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Ah, so that's how it feels to be retarded.

[–]Cheddarwurst 1 point2 points ago

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Actually, that's probably how it feels to be ripped limb from limb. You might as well just insult him instead of being "clever" about it, but this is reddit we're talking about here. So who gives a shit, DICK JOKE.

[–]1nf1n1te 0 points1 point ago

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Now you know what it's like to be an atheist and a communist living in the U.S. all the time. Congrats!

[–]thegroverest 0 points1 point ago

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So why are you even here? This can't be a pleasant experience for you.

[–]nucca35 1 point2 points ago

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Because not everybody on reddit is a douchbag.

But the ones that are are loud as fuck about it.

[–]Rano_Its 2 points3 points ago

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Unsuscribe from the subreddit you don't like and block the users you don't want to see.

Or just read what you want to read and ignore the rest (works well for religious people ~oupsie).

[–]thegroverest 0 points1 point ago

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I do not disagree with you.

[–]Styleaux 0 points1 point ago

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Sweet science, not this shit again...

[–]Techno_viking22 0 points1 point ago

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How I feel as an atheist in real life.

[–]mumux 0 points1 point ago

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Go, red ants!

[–]ruetero -1 points0 points ago

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So you feel like you need your friends to tear atheists apart?

[–]Punchomatic -1 points0 points ago

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I feel really bad for you.

[–]JuppppyIV -3 points-2 points ago

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First-world problems?

[–]ehorgan -2 points-1 points ago

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"OOOH, I'm a victim! I'm a christian! Help me, they're oppressing me, they're pointing out how stupid my religion is! ATTICA ATTICA!"

[–]kgenezk -1 points0 points ago

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Lol, me too friend! :)

[–]DedPimpin -3 points-2 points ago

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U should. This is war beotch.

[–]riff1060 -3 points-2 points ago

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and you should feel like this. that is how sane, intelligent people feel around your ilk. go talk to your imaginary friend about it.

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[–]fanaticflyer 2 points3 points ago

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I don't see how you can have a belief in God that is anything other than faith based. There is no evidence to suggest that God exists in his form as described by Christians. I also don't see how somebody can be logical/rational but also believe something based on faith, especially when that something is a supernatural creator or the universe.

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[–]fanaticflyer 3 points4 points ago

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Well I would love to hear your scientific reasons for believing in God if you would be kind enough to share.

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[–]fanaticflyer 4 points5 points ago

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I'm not really sure what you mean by saying that science and physics is so precise or that it has so much mathematical detail. I'm also not really sure what you mean by saying the world works with little room for error. Could you elaborate on those by chance? I find this interesting how you see God in science; all I see in science is how it could have all happened without God's help.

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[–]fanaticflyer 2 points3 points ago

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Those who rely on faith, and those who rely on experiments and theories are both trying to explain the same thing, essentially.

I suppose this is true to some degree, but to compare science and faith is to compare apples and oranges. Faith is belief without evidence while science is belief according to evidence. Faith asks us to stop asking questions and ignore our critical thinking, because it has all been laid out for us in a holy book. Scientists don't claim to be sure of anything, and this is important: neither do most atheists. Atheists don't claim to be sure a god didn't create the universe, all they are sure of is that there is no evidence to suggest this, so to have belief in a god is incomprehensible.

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[–]mightycow 0 points1 point ago

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That sounds like condescension. "Ha ha, those quaint atheists and their silly lack of faith" is hardly tolerance.

[–]mellonandenter -5 points-4 points ago

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ALL 110 comments are 110 reasons on why you feel as mentioned. Reddit is just one big circle jerk and a temple for some Carl Sagan dweeb.