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Optimus prime vs Jesus christ (funnyatheism.com)
submitted 7 months ago by RayRayKun3
[–]smirtch 50 points51 points52 points 7 months ago
All hail Optimus Prime.
[–]RayRayKun3[S] 7 points8 points9 points 7 months ago
All hail mini moose
[–]thrakhath 7 points8 points9 points 7 months ago
Oh him? Yeah he's been here the whole time. Yep.
[–]Da_Black_Jesus 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
Why not Zoidberg?
[–]DieWithYerBootsOn 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
I prefer Mariano Rivera, myself.
[–]PhotonicDoctor 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
No, all hail glorious leader Megatron.
[–]Oblimix 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
All hail the spark!
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[–]ncjenkin 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
We understand. Everything on Reddit is a repost. Is it also a law that it must be mentioned in every post?
[–]swimstrongheller 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I use these complaints as a sort of measurement of how much this subreddit has grown. Usually people don't upvote posts they've seen before, yet these reposts still attract a bunch of attention, assumably from people who haven't ever seen them before.
[–]LHB12 -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
How many times has this been posted?
[–]circleandsquare 12 points13 points14 points 7 months ago
My loyalty falls with Princess Luna.
Block out the sun! New Lunar Republic!
[–]thrakhath 5 points6 points7 points 7 months ago
The Religion has now been doubled!
[–]circleandsquare 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
HOW MANY BROWNIE POINTS DO I RECEIVE?
[–]jakebluu 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
Fuck you
ALL HAIL INVISIBLE PINK UNICORN.
I'll kill you for this difference in op--wait.
[–]ATG77 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
Heathen! The rightful ruler of this domain is Queen Metalia.
Incarnation of Chaos and the one true ruler of the Dark Kingdom!
[–]Wise2304 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
Personally I believe that the Two can rule together, without all this needless violence.
[–]bronyness 12 points13 points14 points 7 months ago
I wanna do one with The Doctor.
[–]DWalrus 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
If you don't I will
[–]bronyness 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
do it
[–]DWalrus 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
On it.
[–]Lightslayer 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
DO IT NAO!!!
[–]oddmodern 2 points3 points4 points 7 months ago
if they teamed up could optimus prime drive on water?
[–]NeverStopPosting 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
protip: main foe = jews.
[–]thebardingreen 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
Daagwarrrghle! Rage face! That's older then teh intarnetz!!!111!!!1!!
Have an upvote.
[–]LazyStarGazer 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
The thing i dislike most about christianity is the ideal that simply loving jesus is enough as opposed to doing what he actually taught; like showing compassion for all living creatures, and performing good deeds without hope of reward.
[–]mysterioo 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
So guys,
who wants to start a religion where we worship optimus prime and drink ayahuasca?
[–]darkangelx 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Yes and I prefer to smoke my DMT than drink it with MAIO~
[–]GuyInNJ 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
12 Apostles, 72 Disciples, just to correct it.
[–]Zer_ 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
I'm about to blow your minds...
Imagine Jesus being best friends with Optimus.
[–]PastyNoob 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Plus, Give me your face!
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Optimus Prime, a God we can all believe in.
[–]iamheero 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
It's old but jesus can't turn into a fire engine
[–]Macron69 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Prime has had 12 resurrections? i can only recall the one from the old TV series. I guess this is an aggregate from other series. any brave fan care to reference all of these?
[–]Glaucous 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Good guy Optimus
[–]Supercrack11 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I am Optimusfarian now
[–]gajano 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Why is Christianity usually at the butt of the jokes in the atheism section? I don't just mean Reddit, but on other websites as well. Not that I would want to see any particular religion denigrated, but it seems most atheists are afraid to pull punches on Islam as readily as they do Christianity. Hmmm...I wonder why?
[–]jbot84 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
This is a predominantly English speaking website. Christianity is predominantly practiced by English speaking people. The majority of reddit users are from the US. 70% of us residents are christians....see where I'm going here?
I can't speak for other websites though
[–]CanuckMercenary 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Because many christians consider themselves more educated/less savage/backward thinking compared to other religions (Islam is a great example), but christianity is just as backwards as they perceive Islam is.
It just gets old after a while...that's all. A few jabs here and there are fair game in my opinion, but when the overwhelming majority of posts seem to denigrate or disrespect one particular religion the forum ceases to lose focus. I enjoy many of the unbiased intelligent points of view that are made here, but find the relentless attacks on a particular faith unnecessary. I guess in an open forum like this one simply has to take the good with the bad. Thanks for your insights.
[–]safe2assume -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
Because Christianity is the most bizarre and the most fun to make fun of. The fact that there are still so many followers makes it THAT MUCH FUNNIER!
[–]Ovenhouse 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
YEA BUT JEBUS IS REAL!!!
[–]safe2assume 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
God is a toad with white feathers.
[–]mattbrvc 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUxFiNlrDmA
[–]JonoLith 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I was with you until the last row. Reread your Christian Philosophy.
[–]benthejammin 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
In his defense. Jesus was only 33. If he really existed that is.
[–]nailszzz6 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
http://tinyurl.com/blkvb46
[–]mrafaeldie12 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Fuck you Starscream.
[–]Anticipator1234 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
We're atheists. You know we're going to be accused of worshiping Megatron.
[–]MixedUpZombie 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
it's shit like this, r/atheism. STOP REPOSTING SHIT. seriously, i've seen this exact same post like 4 times in this subreddit.
[–]EatalltheBacon 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Jesus is just as real as Megatron lol
[–]ZeroNihilist 4 points5 points6 points 7 months ago
Starscream is the Judas Iscariot of the Decepticons.
[–]yoshi314 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
does he have a coin slot?
[–]CoAmon 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
Starscream has yet to hang himself only to come back a few episodes later to run down a hill fall over and have his guts spill out so far as I know.
[–]WhatHeMeantWas 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Jesus Christ is Megatron.
[–]dpiston 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Calvin Johnson is alive and feared.
[–]Tharpless 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Fictional? Yes, and yes.
[–]yoshi314 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
scumbag optimus prime : claims that the freedom is the right of all sentient beings. strives to defeat all who disagree.
[–]FriedBacon86 -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 months ago*
I posted this on facebook a year or so ago and some random whackjob sent me this.
hi. you don't know me but i can't help but comment on that chart of optimus prime vs. Jesus. i guess you don't know Him at all but one thing was forgotten in the comparisson - Jesus is the only one of the two who actually did everything He did while He was here on this earth simply because He Loves You. pretty certain optimus prime doesn't give a shit about you or anyone else.
My response:
First off, use some reasoning: I posted a picture comparing Optimus Prime to Jesus; what makes you think you're going to convince me of anything to do with Jesus? Secondly, Jesus didn't exist, he was a fictional character in a story book used to teach morality and control the masses, it's been 2000 years, let's move on. Thirdly, nice capitalization of only pronouns, like capitalizing 'Him'. That poor use of grammar REALLY makes me want to take you seriously. (Note the heavy sarcasm).
First off, use some reasoning: I posted a picture comparing Optimus Prime to Jesus; what makes you think you're going to convince me of anything to do with Jesus?
Secondly, Jesus didn't exist, he was a fictional character in a story book used to teach morality and control the masses, it's been 2000 years, let's move on.
Thirdly, nice capitalization of only pronouns, like capitalizing 'Him'. That poor use of grammar REALLY makes me want to take you seriously. (Note the heavy sarcasm).
and then he became a martyr, which only blew his popularity out of proportion. we all know what happened next.
[–]crabber338 3 points4 points5 points 7 months ago
Jesus was more than likely a fictional character. That the Bible references real people and places doesn't make it any more real than a Tom Clancy novel.
The name 'Jesus' is an invention that came much later. You won't find those sounds in Hebrew - And thus the origin was a modification of Yeshua, in which the same root portions of Yehweh can be found in the longer Hebrew spelling. It literally means 'Cry for help - To God'.
Investigating this further, you will find that Yeshua was a very common name. Many groups would have their own 'savior' and they would be named 'Yeshua bin <family or clan name>'
There are no accounts of a single Yeshua that did the miracles or rose from the dead in Roman writings. Even Pontious doesn't mention a Yeshua of Nazareth.
Chances are Jesus was a mythic 'hero' that was a mixture of many different 'Yeshua Tales' rolled into one with a health dose of miracles. Early followers of 'Jesus' probably revered him as an 'idealized man' but not as an actual being. This is revealed by Gnostic writings... The actual 'Jesus' worshiped today was formed by fictional accounts written many decades later known as the Gospel today.
I started questioning whether he ever even existed after someone asked me "Do you believe in Jesus?" It was like a child asking me if I believe in Santa.
[–]dbeta -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
There is no contemporary evidence of his existence, and some supplementary evidence suggest that many of the stories of his life simply aren't true. Of course he was far from the only one claiming to be of divine origin in that time frame, so it's not outside the possibility that he existed, it's just that there is no proof of it at all. I could easily make up someone else who I claimed lived in that time frame and there would be an equal amount of evidence of his existence.
[–]squigs 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
Okay. Personally I think that there probably was an actual person that Jesus was based on. whether he was actually called Jesus I don't know.
The way I see it, the stories had to come from somewhere, and unless they're actually true, the storyteller was rubbish, even by the standards of the time. They just don't go anywhere, and generally have no real purpose.
There's not a lot of contemporary evidence of the existence of a lot of people who existed. You could argue that the wife of Pontius Pilate didn't exist because the only place she's mentioned is in one of the Gospels but it's very likely that he was married. There wouldn't have been a lot of reason to note yet another preacher of divine origin.
[–]CoAmon -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
That seems an increasingly poor basis to build a religion, and faith upon however. You two arguments are there must be a factual evidential person upon which the biblical account of Jesus is based as the story does not make sense without one, and that lack of evidence of a something does not constitute the lack of something and that jesus was unremarkable enough to not warrant any kind documentation.
I will address your first argument with this: There are multiple authors in the Bible who address the concept of Jesus fairly distinctly. For example, the Messianic Jesus represented in the Synoptic Gospels, the Moral Jesus of the Pauline Epistles, and the Apocalyptic Jesus of Revelations. This does not seem to constitute a concrete Jesus but instead, a representation of the author's convictions, and intended message. Furthemore, there are conflict between these interpretations of Jesus such as the forgiveness doctrine and the obedience doctrine, forgiveness being almost entirely absent from Pauls letters. There are some token references in Luke-Acts, but its arguable whether Paul wrote these, or one of his adherents did, or someone else entirely.
You second argument, that absence of evidence is not evidence for absence, while technically correct can only be taken so far. Lets take two events that are in all of the gospels, the Temple Cleansing Event, and the Crucifixion Event. First the Temple Cleansing Event wherein Jesus flips tables and generally raising Cane. There are some serious issues with the description of the event: the Jewish Temple had temple guards with Centurion authority to prevent exactly this sort of thing and Jesus would have certainly been arrested for this sort of disturbance. While it is possible that Jesus' supernatural nature allowed him to do this, the Gospel authors are generally pretty good at indicating when Jesus invokes his power, and all four authors are mysteriously silent on this, and an arrest is not documented in the Gospels.
The second event, the Crucifixion Event, was not documented outside the Bible which is strange given that Roman Law required that all criminal proceedings record the accusation, and method of punishment and rerecorded in Rome's central justice building. There are interestingly no record of a person being executed for being "King of the Jews" which was the stated reason for execution in multiple gospel accounts. If there were no execution quite a lot of dogma of forgiveness falls apart, and the spectacularity of Jesus is muted.
[–]squigs 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I'm only talking about the existence of a hypothetical preacher upon which Jesus is based. I'm no Christian and don't believe that this person was the son of god or divine in any way. The religion itself is probably based on exaggerations in a verbal record.
I don't think there has to be such a person. It simply seems more likely that there was than not. My mention of "another preacher of divine origin" was meant sardonically. There were probably plenty of "one true messiah"s.
So, let's assume there's no such person. That the gospels are entirely fictional. That meant someone had to write them. Who? I find it unlikely that St. Paul was responsible. You point out the forgiveness doctrine, and I have to agree there, so there's another author.
It's possible that there was an author. Possibly a group, who also converted St. Paul. I'm sure neither of us believe the biblical account of divine revelation so there has to be some person linking St. Paul with the original Christian sects who told these stories. The simplest explanation is that they based their cult on a preacher.
There are plausible answers to your other objections. Jesus may well have had followers who followed him to the temple, and managed to cause enough confusion to help him escape. Or perhaps security was simply not as good as you suggest. As for the crucifixion - the charge was something added after the fact. I'm sure there were plenty of decent charges that could be levelled at a rabble rouser in order to mollify the Jewish religious leaders. The Romans wanted order and the established religious authorities were a known quantity, so it makes sense to occasionally give them something they want.
So it's really just the direction I lean. No particular compelling reason that there had to be such a person, and I readily accept it's possible that the entirety of Jesus' life was fiction.
[–]CoAmon 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
I'm generally uncomfortable with explanatory simplicity as a metric for conjectural validity as its application has a tendency to proceeded from one's personally held biases rather than any rigorous evidential process. I disavow Occam's Razor for similar reasons.
I question the validity of the assertion that the must have been an insular group upon which Christian canonicy, or even Pauline canonicy must necessarily be based. Nearly from the beginning there were conflicting sects of Christianity which can be demonstrated with Paul's various letters to churches around the region. Paul's travels around Roman empire, ostensibly to eradicate Jewish heretics obviously must have put him in contact with a number of conflicting ideals to his Pharisee training. Its entirely possible that rather than there being a group of people who converted him, it happened naturally during his interactions with the heretics. Maybe the outright murder of people effected him enough to question what he was doing. He then goes and preaches the new teachings he has learned, and begins trying to reconcile then with his Pharisee identity. This points to a decoherency of Christians of the era.
Sure there are plausible objections to my points, but they are not well supported doctrinaly, or even historically. The point you make about Jesus bringing in other followers, or that there simply were not enough guards to enforce the laws of the temple courtyard. I like to term this the "Ineptitude of the Romans" fallacy. The Roman empire had no less than 6000 Centurions stationed in Jerusalem at any one time. It was an occupied city, and the tax collectors who Jesus was assaulting were the property of Rome. Not only would Jesus have had to escape from the Temple, he would also have to escape from Jerusalem, and he would effectively be unable to reenter Jerusalem at that point.
For the point on Jesus' crucifixion, maybe. The only document that we reliably have on the event is the Bible, and the bible seems to label the charge of treason explicitly as "King of the Jews" and is explicitly mentioned as the charge before pilate in Mark 15, Luke 23, and Matthew 27. Explicity in all three of the passages list the charges brought before Pilate as "King of the Jews", which is again listed on the crucifix, as was the law. Legally that would have to be the charge recorded in Rome. So either the account is mistaken, or it did not happen.
[–]New-Dude 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
k
[–]captain_dickbutt -7 points-6 points-5 points 7 months ago
Yes because comparing a cartoon robot to a savior means you are completely sane, and anyone who offers a rational counter argument is a "wackjob". Stay classy /r/atheism
[–]CertusAT 5 points6 points7 points 7 months ago
cartoon robot to a savior
Man made cartoon robot who is also a savior, to a man made literary "savior".
I think the comparison is fair.
[–]igotswhitefever 1 point2 points3 points 7 months ago
Don't think a guy called captain_dickbutt knows what classy means
[–]Reshimon 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
Would you teach me the difference between this cartoon robot and this savior?
[–]generalozzman -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
both do not exists in actuality.
[–]no_awning_no_mining -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago
Jesus is neither the father nor the holy ghost.
[–]Auberginee -2 points-1 points0 points 7 months ago
This is such a fucking repost. We have seen in thousands of times. GIVE ME NEW CONTENT /r/atheism!
[–]alerad 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago
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