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[–]bikebikemike 231 points232 points ago

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if you are running windows 98 in 2011 i dont think you are that worried about security

[–]UniverseOfDiscourse 4 points5 points ago

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I have a client that's still running NT 4.0 on a file server. They just won't upgrade, no matter what I tell them.

[–]Murrabbit -1 points0 points ago

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I believe that's NT, not 98.

[–]Calimhero 9 points10 points ago

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Nope. It's 98.

[–]Murrabbit 0 points1 point ago

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My mistake, then.

[–]PatternOfKnives 45 points46 points ago

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When I go back in time this will be really handy!

[–]glassuser 31 points32 points ago

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That's because it's not a security dialog. It's a network authentication dialog. You still can't get access to domain resources.

[–]comradeTJH 56 points57 points ago

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The Username/Passwort is only needed to access files on the network. You could actually get to the explorer just by clicking cancel.

[–]LagLover 16 points17 points ago

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came here to point this out. Found that shit out when I was in middle school trying to get onto my dad's computer to find porn

[–]Toribor 15 points16 points ago

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I love everyone's early 'porn quest days'. I'm pretty sure my first entries in a search engine for porn would have been pretty laughable.

  • boobs
  • big boobs
  • big naked boobs

[–]ranavalona 12 points13 points ago

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Sounds about right for me as well. I also tried "bare naked ladies" at one point. So you can imagine my frustration.

[–]skymind 10 points11 points ago

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At that age I was much more attractive to girls my age than older girls (never been a big boob guy). It's probably for the best I wasn't googling what I wanted to see on my dad's computer.

[–]Lalipox 30 points31 points ago

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Forgot your password? Here's an overly elaborate solution where you can't help but question "Who found this out?!"

[–]Salva_Veritate 24 points25 points ago

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It's not really THAT complicated if you think about it. Someone probably got curious and wondered what kind of error Windows would throw back if you tried to access files without logging in. What are the two things you can do on the login screen? Log in or "Print Topic". Then you just explore the Print menus until you find something that can access files. It's fairly common knowledge that help files are stored in Windows, so try and load those. Then: lol security flaw. I'd have been surprised by the outcome but maybe someone better at computers than me would have planned it.

[–]hoddap 9 points10 points ago

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Great explanation. If you get down deep enough in the nerdy rabbithole you start seeing these kind of typical "oppertunities" in software. It's not just a random find like an easteregg in a game.

[–]doctorscurvy 2 points3 points ago

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It was much more likely someone who didn't know the password just clicking everything they could find and coming across it eventually

[–]Cueball61 3 points4 points ago

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The idea of finding a way to open My Computer/Explorer.exe/etc is pretty common.

[–]writesomethingwitty 2 points3 points ago

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I did! Independent of anyone else, I found the same solution.

[–]waffels 3 points4 points ago

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Or you could boot to a flash drive and reset the admin password with a free program.

[–]Qayl 8 points9 points ago

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The seniorgif.com logo is pretty anoying

[–]nodnodwinkwink 0 points1 point ago

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watermarkingsonsofbitches.

[–]Snorglefractions 8 points9 points ago

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I hear it's a little bit better these days.

[–]ItsGotToMakeSense 2 points3 points ago

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In other news, if you wait until your neighbor falls asleep you can take anything you want out of his cave.

[–]Iamkraze 1 point2 points ago

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was it 95 or 98 that you simply had to just press cancel to see the desktop?

[–]darkplumb90 1 point2 points ago

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I think it was 95, because I had to do this on a Panasonic Toughbook I inherited (original owner/password was long gone)

[–]niton 1 point2 points ago

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This is at least 10 years old...

[–]angrathias 1 point2 points ago

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You think thats impressive?, the iphone one where you use the camera to bypass the pin is just ridiculous

[–]CaCtUs2003 -3 points-2 points ago

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How about a link?

[–]angrathias 0 points1 point ago

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No link but heres the instructions (as best i remember them). (confirmed on iphone 4 / IOS 5 btw)

1) lock phone 2) activate camera via camera button 3) Cancel using camera 4) Cancels back to home screen without lock

[–]GoodMusicTaste 0 points1 point ago

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That's by design, doesnt work if you have a passcode set.

[–]angrathias -1 points0 points ago

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Its by design that you can bypass the pin? Why bother having the pin at all then..seems like its not by design at all.

[–]GoodMusicTaste 0 points1 point ago

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Like i said, you cant bypass the pin using your method. It only works if you DONT have a pin set.

[–]angrathias -1 points0 points ago

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It does work, I had it done right in front of me

[–]GoodMusicTaste 0 points1 point ago

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No it doesnt, i have an iphone myself lol

[–]ForeverAlone2SexGod 0 points1 point ago

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GUYS GUYS!

Winbloze sucks and has terrible security. here is a gif from the 90s that proves it!

[–]mtlaw13 3 points4 points ago

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liek dis if u crai evrteim

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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+1

[–]dillingerk 0 points1 point ago

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SO BRAVE!

[–]83overzero 0 points1 point ago

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I had an old imac (one the of the nicely colored ones) just barely running 10.2. All I had to do to bypass the login screen was hit restart. When it rebooted it would log in automatically with out need for a password.

[–]Kunkletown 1 point2 points ago

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You can still do that if autologin is enabled. You can turn it off though.

[–]83overzero 0 points1 point ago

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Makes sense. Thank you (though I can’t really follow that advice as said computer had to be thrown out last year).

[–]Kunkletown 1 point2 points ago

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EIther way, you can't really expect security if someone has physical access to the machine.

[–]83overzero 0 points1 point ago

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True, though the reason I sent it to the dump was because it always shut down within about 30 seconds of being turned on. And even if someone found it and somehow fixed it there wasn’t anything compromising on it, just a bunch of homework and music. But thank you for your concern; I’m probably just an idiot.

[–]Xeeker 0 points1 point ago

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in a few years, that music could get you the electric chair in the US

[–]83overzero 1 point2 points ago

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I can’t quite tell if you’re serious or not, but seeing how fired up people are about SOPA I will assume you are. Music pirating will not be a capital offense under SOPA; if I recall correctly the maximum prison sentence will be 5 years. But for me this is irrelevant because all of that music was imported from CDs that I owned, which is legal. I don’t pirate music.

[–]Xeeker 1 point2 points ago

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i was, of course, exaggerating. still, the fact that you could get a prison sentence of five years merely for downloading music is just fucking nuts.

i mean i don't pirate too. i buy movies and games. i just don't like the idea of the US being a censored police nation, because uncle sam tends to be a role model for europe (where i live).

you may be saying that i'm exaggerating again but you can't deny the fact that what is happening in the US lately (SOPA, OWS, ...) gives you ideas like that

[–]83overzero 1 point2 points ago

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True, I understand.

[–]catheterXXcrazy69 0 points1 point ago

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Windows Repost...

[–]lgodsey 0 points1 point ago

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Timely.

[–]reddit_god 0 points1 point ago

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That only worked if you had a specific type of printer. Even then, you had to do it every single time and it kept the login and printer stuff open in the background. Not a big deal now, but it killed the system back then.

The proper way to do it was to boot to a command prompt and simply delete the pwl files. No security was required for a command prompt.

In the days of 95/98/Me, this dialogue was not meant to keep you from accessing the computer. It was meant to keep you from accessing network resources, which it did wonderfully. Just like today, accessing the local computer was trivial no matter what authentication scheme is in place. These days we just like to pretend that 5 minutes worth of work is more of a barrier than 30 seconds worth.

[–]ArbitraryPerseveranc 0 points1 point ago

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No need for all of that on such an old version of Windows. I remember saying to myself "hey, I'll put a password on so my brother doesn't go on my computer and fill it with viruses". I come home from school and there he is on my computer. All he did when the password prompt came up was hit "cancel" and it logged in anyway :/

[–]specialk16 0 points1 point ago

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Bringing this out is the same as people who still joke about Macs having only one click.

[–]ajree210 0 points1 point ago

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Anyone else hum the Epic Maneuver music while watching this?

[–]GoodMusicTaste 0 points1 point ago

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Also, windows xp and its default hidden administrator user with no password.

[–]darkplumb90 0 points1 point ago

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Older than the internet. Not to mention there were similar issues on macs as well (if you had an OSX reinstall disc, pop it in and hit "reset password" and it did it without asking any questions)

[–]Kunkletown 2 points3 points ago*

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Seriously, if you have physical access to the computer, nothing short of encrypting the whole hard drive is going to stop someone from getting into it in some way or another. And even that's no guarantee. I remember a hack on Sun workstations where you could give your shell root privileges by breaking out into the firmware console and editing the memory to change your process's user ID to be 0. It is not really a security flaw. It is just a general assumption that only the authoized user will have physical access to the machine. If you can't assume that, then using the computer becomes a pain in the ass. Something as simple as forgetting a password becomes a serious problem.

[–]basec0m -1 points0 points ago

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You need SP 24987389764786373

[–]rschnell -1 points0 points ago

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There are just as egregious security flaws in mac oses from over a decade ago as well. This is pretty asinine.

[–]Kunkletown 0 points1 point ago

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Especially since 95/98 were never meant to be secure. I mean, they shipped with FAT32 as the filesystem. Come on. Now, if this hack gave them access to the domain, that woudl be big.

[–]GunslingerBara -4 points-3 points ago

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I used this exact trick in my high school to get past the login prompt. After a bit of messing around, I almost got expelled due to "accidentally" deleting a bunch of public, shared files that just happened to be teacher records. I ended up paying $100 to pay for the backup restoration and banned from using the school computers until I graduated.

tldr: "Hacked" high school computer, paid fine and got banned from using them ever again.

[–]Qayl 0 points1 point ago

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You had to pay for that?

In my school all they did was "oh that can happen to anyone". No matter how good you were with computers all my teachers thought that kids can 't handle computers

[–]Cueball61 -1 points0 points ago

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You shouldn't have been able to in the first place.

"Teacher records"? As in personal files? This is a violation of data protection, surely?

[–]GunslingerBara 1 point2 points ago

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They wouldn't tell me anymore than teacher records, but yes, they were in a publicly visible location. Anybody could have deleted them. I should have been commended for pointing out 2 security holes!