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[–]KindBass 186 points187 points ago

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Not positive, but I'm pretty sure that NASA had nothing to do with that decision.

[–]BigFloatingHead 62 points63 points ago

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I think you're right. If it had, NASA would have been all "Please don't fuck my mom."

[–]NOACeulemans 21 points22 points ago

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Maybe if Pluto offered a budget increase. NASA is willing to go that extra mile for some sweet, sweet budgets.

[–]marshall007 14 points15 points ago

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I know you're joking, but on a serious note NASA deserves every penny of what they're allotted. I'm really tired of seeing them first in line for every damn budget cut. There is nothing more important to our growth as a species than space exploration.

[–]TyMan210 5 points6 points ago

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"In order to be true to our nature, and our destiny, we must aspire to greater things. We have outgrown our cradle. It is futile to cry for mother's milk, when our true sustenance awaits us among the stars."

[–]PieInYaEye 8 points9 points ago

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Except maybe surviving well enough to make use of it.

[–]Bakbakk -1 points0 points ago

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Well i think surviving down here is more important than preparing our future up there?

I'm not bashing NASA or space exploration but its not the most important thing in the world

[–]jayrusscoll 4 points5 points ago

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it's the most important thing in the UNIVERSE!

[–]CrazyCanuck41 2 points3 points ago

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Yea it was all that Neil DeGrass Tyson guy... GET HIM!!!!

[–]Always_smooth 1 point2 points ago

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I see what you did there

[–]Mr_Lobster 22 points23 points ago

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You're right, it was the IAU.

[–]doesntlookatvaginas 10 points11 points ago

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From what i heard the opposition to the demotion in the IAU came from the American astronomers, presumably because Pluto is the only planet discovered by an American.

In 2009 the state of Illinois (from where the discoverer of the dwarf planet, Clyde Tombaugh, originated) decided that Pluto is a planet once again

[–]cos1ne 5 points6 points ago

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The New Mexico legislature did the same thing.

Now we just need 48 more states, and about 200 or so nations to agree to the same.

[–]__Demosthenes__ 3 points4 points ago

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But... the government can't just ignore science right? Right.....?

[–]Golden_Kumquat 1 point2 points ago

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Thankfully it's just semantics.

[–]cos1ne 1 point2 points ago

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The government isn't ignoring science, this isn't like the stupid pi is equal to 3 type of laws.

It is giving no properties to pluto other than it being allowed to be called a planet.

[–]g_e_r_b 1 point2 points ago

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AFAIK the jurisdiction of Illinois ends at the state border, and certainly doesn't extend to the Kuiper belt.

[–]notalandmine 1 point2 points ago

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Unfortunate though. NASA just has a better ring to it, and is more known to the general population, ultimately making the joke more understandable and funny. IAU just sounds like a hearing impaired individual saying they hate you.

[–]Mason11987 1 point2 points ago

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you made a joke about deaf people, but decided to go ahead with the politically correct version of "deaf". Interesting.

[–]notalandmine 1 point2 points ago

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I have a severe conductive hearing impairment (post-lingual, between 71 and 90 dB HL) due to trauma, and prefer not being labeled as a deaf person. I've been told that when I'm not signing, I tend to drop my t's. I wasn't trying to be humorous, more referential.

[–]Mason11987 1 point2 points ago

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fair enough, I read it as a joke. Might say more about me :). Sorry about your hearing.

[–]notalandmine 2 points3 points ago

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Just bullshitting ya. It was a good observation you made, and I even thought about it as I wrote it. I knew Reddit wouldn't let me down.

[–]Mason11987 2 points3 points ago

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Shit. Well played. Had me going there. Hope you can hear this.

[–]heyBeNice 0 points1 point ago

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so what letters do you drop when you ARE signing?
personally, I can't be bothered with S.

[–]jasonkeene 0 points1 point ago*

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was just gonna post this.. soo glad reddit is more pedantic than me.. there is hope for the world :)

just to add.. the size of pluto wasn't really the main concern in classifying it as a dwarf.. mercury is almost as small.. it's the fact that it hasn't cleared it's orbital path.. it's eccentric orbit.. and its size ratio to its satellite Charon.. maybe I am more pedantic than reddit :(

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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you need more upvotes. some help here!

[–]P4ngurB4n 44 points45 points ago*

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People are ridiculous. That there are people who just can't accept a literal, tangible and provable fact because they value their own opinion and perceptions too much is laughable and really quite sad. The story of the human race on the whole so far, as it were.

Anyways, for people who feel and believe that what happened to our perception of Pluto and the changes therein are wrong or unjust, let's set the record straight. Nobody changed Pluto into a dwarf planet, it always was a dwarf planet. It's just that someone finally had enough intelligence to realize it and say something about it. Is it similar to a planet? You betchya. Is it not similar to a planet as well? Yep. So it's kind of both, isn't it? or neither, depending on how you want to view it. Either way, that's why it's called a dwarf planet. You can argue both sides, ergo, it's not either, or it's both. It's certainly not one or the other, though. So there you have it. A super simplified and easy to understand explanation with no bias attempting to argue pointless technicalities which can go both ways until the day is done.

So why are people so up in arms about the reclassification of Pluto due to the change in our understanding of the surrounding universe and all that that lies within it? Well, let's think about that, then. In fact, let's put it this way...

"Saturn is no longer a gas giant, it's a [something else]. Here's an explanation of why, which is presented in such a way that it can only be argued by fools and dreamers or those with an agenda, whether personal or not."

How many people do you think would give a single fuck at all if that were to happen? That's right. Perhaps a small handful that would go immediately unnoticed. So why is Pluto somehow different?

  1. Pluto is "small". People don't even understand just how small it is, but they know that it's at least small. That's all that matters, really. Many human beings have this weird thing that happens to them, which I like to call the "underdog effect", or, "big brother syndrome". There are many people in this world who feel the need to look out for each other, or in this case, look out for Pluto, because it's "just such a small planet, it can't defend itself". Yeah, it's ridiculous, but there you have it. That's one reason behind people who are wrongly defensive about Pluto's change from a "normal" planet into a "dwarf planet". Pluto is the underdog, and people like underdogs.

  2. Pluto is also a cartoon dog created by Disney, which many people like. This is by far the largest reason, in my opinion. Often the simplest answers are the most accurate ones. People like Pluto the lovable Disney Pooch and Pluto the underdog planet happens to share it's name with him. Though, technically Pluto the lovable pooch actually shares his name with Pluto, the tiny speck in the night sky. (figure of speech, it's not even big enough or close enough to be a speck in the night sky)

That's pretty much it. Yeah, people get up in arms about Pluto because they feel the need to defend something that's small in comparison to nearly anything else in the known solar system, but is enormously huge in comparison to themselves. And because it shares a name with a cartoon dog. Anyone who doesn't fall into either of those two categories, falls into a category which I simply wished didn't exist and refuse to believe that it does in hopes that it will someday disappear, if only for the sake of my sanity.

Edit: I seemed to have posted this into a reply. Whoops. Oh well. There it is. Also, I understand the joke, it didn't go over my head. I only wished to address this issue as I've encountered it recently and this joke is loosely based on that. Thanks.

Edit: TL;DR - People like underdogs and people like cartoon dogs, ergo, people like Pluto.

[–]gta0004 21 points22 points ago

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People are up in arms? I must have missed the memo.

[–]RU_Pickman 16 points17 points ago

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Psst.... here's your torch and pitchfork. You're a bit late. That guy's been going on for hours. Something will happen soon I'm sure. Something about a dwarf cartoon dog.... I don't know. I just came here to burn stuff.

[–]TrustyGuy 5 points6 points ago

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Umm... I forgot my torch at home, can I share with someone else?

[–]Curiosity_man 3 points4 points ago

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Take mine...when you put pressure in the middle it turns into two!

[–]word5auce 1 point2 points ago

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So any of you guys wanna get lunch after this? I know the greatest wing place.

[–]real_foz 3 points4 points ago

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Fuck Pluto! we want wings!

[–]DrunkInTheTrunk 4 points5 points ago

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Too late. NASA's mom already did.

[–]prodigium 0 points1 point ago

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She's probably up for some wings. She's up for a lot of things.

[–]Lowbacca1977 2 points3 points ago

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They are. A lot.

(I work at a public observatory, this is a daily question... from people being annoyed and upset all the way up to one case of vandalism)

[–]jesticle 0 points1 point ago

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I was thinking this, since it happening I've heard nothing about it, other than occasionally getting corrected when I say there's 9 planets. Certainly no-one getting outraged over it, who honestly cares about the classification of a celestial body 3 BILLION miles away?

[–]P4ngurB4n -2 points-1 points ago

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...

Some people are vocal about it from time to time when prompted. A very few people are a bit more passionate about it.

Better?

[–]CIRCLE_JERK_LEGEND 21 points22 points ago*

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I THINK THE REASON WHY PEOPLE THINK THAT PLUTO IS A PLANET, IS BECAUSE THEY WERE TAUGHT IT THAT WAY (PLUS IT RUINS THE MNEMONIC DEVICE). ALSO, YOU DIDN'T REALLY ADDRESS WHY. I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. HERE ARE MY POSTULATED REASONS ON WHY PLUTO SHOULD NOT BE A PLANET.

1. ITS MOSTLY MADE OF ICE. IF IT WERE WITHIN THE ORBIT OF EARTH, THEN IT WOULD BE LIKE A COMET. IT WOULD HAVE A TAIL. YOU DON'T SEE PLANETS HAVING TAILS DO YOU? DO YOU?!

2. PLUTO HAS NOTHING IN COMMON WITH THE OTHER PLANETS. FOR EXAMPLE, IT IS NOT LIKE THE GASEOUS PLANETS, SATURN, UR ANUS, AND NEPTUNE.

3. RETARDED ORBIT. LIKE SERIOUSLY ITS LIKE GOING FOR A FART AND INSTEAD YOU GET A POP-TART. WTF. RIGHT? HERP DERP DERP

4. THERE ARE MOONS BIGGER THAN PLUTO. THIS ISN'T RELEVANT. ACTUALLY YES IT IS. SEE NEXT POINT.

5. IT DOESN'T FALL UNDER THE DEFINITION OF A PLANET. IN THAT A PLANET MUST BE ONE THAT IS CAPABLE OF BEING A GIGANTIC MASS THAT IS DOMINANT IN ITS SPACE (LIKE GRAVITY).

SINCE PEOPLE AREN'T WILLING TO LET SCIENTIST DO SCIENCE, I WILL ASSUME THEY AREN'T RATIONAL EITHER. SO I HAVE CHOSEN TO SPEAK IN THIS OVERLY OBNOXIOUS CAPITALIZATION OF LETTERS.

tl;dr - its not. deal with it. (i'm secretly an astronomer)

[–]Lowbacca1977 3 points4 points ago

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Reason 1: IF IT WERE WITHIN THE ORBIT OF EARTH, THEN IT WOULD BE LIKE A COMET. IT WOULD HAVE A TAIL. YOU DON'T SEE PLANETS HAVING TAILS DO YOU? DO YOU?!

Yes, yes I do.

[–]cryptobeast 1 point2 points ago

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and about Mercury's 'tail'

and

MESSENGER has also studied Mercury’s tail, mapping magnesium, calcium, and sodium. Yes, Mercury has a comet-like tail, because unlike the other three terrestrial planets it lacks an atmosphere to keep high-energy particles from slamming into its surface and sputtering off atoms. So, like the tail of a comet, Mercury’s tail is made of the same stuff that makes up the surface of the planet. Source

[–]sir_bumwipe 6 points7 points ago

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REASON NUMBER 6. KE$HA SAYS SO. I HEARD SHE WAS PRETTY HOT WITH THAT WHOLE SCIENCE THING.

[–]gargamak 3 points4 points ago

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uh, only literally einstein

[–]gargamak 0 points1 point ago

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So brave. I cried evry t1m.

[–]hkap 0 points1 point ago

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Upvote for the nonchalant Ur Anus.

[–]exspasticcomics 1 point2 points ago

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Three reasons Why people disagree with the IAU's current definition of a planet....

1) Some in the IAU argued that other definitions would have allowed for too many planets in the solar system and school children wouldn't be able to remember them all. (Yeah- You can't make this stuff up...)

2) Only a handful of IAU members were at the meeting where this was voted on... & there's a debate as to whether the current definition represents the views of the majority of scientists.

3) Some argue that the current definition is rather flawed. For example- A planet has to 'clear it orbit.' Well- technically... Earth hasn't cleared it's orbit. If Neptune ever cleared it's orbit.. Pluto wouldn't be there. At very least- the current definition's wording is a bit flaky.

The definition that failed was based on the principle we use to define stars. In short- When a body gains enough mass.. thermonuclear fusion takes place. (Even if briefly..) and That's a star.

On the other hand.. There's a point where a body becomes large enough that it becomes a (More or less..) Spherical shape. Ceres & Vesta are good examples. Ceres is large enough that it is spherical, Vesta is not. Under one of the proposed definitions- Ceres would be a planet & Vesta would not.

You may not like it- But there is a legitimate debate here....

[–]khyberkitsune 1 point2 points ago

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There's nothing flaky about clearing its orbit, by definition. It's rather easy to understand actually.

[–]exspasticcomics 0 points1 point ago

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There continues to be criticism regarding the wording of the final draft of the definition. Notably, the lead scientist on NASA's robotic mission to Pluto, Alan Stern, contends that, like Pluto, Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Neptune have not fully cleared their orbital zones either. Earth orbits with 10,000 near-Earth asteroids. Jupiter, meanwhile, is accompanied by 100,000 Trojan asteroids on its orbital path. "If Neptune had cleared its zone, Pluto wouldn't be there", he added.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAU_definition_of_planet

[–]P4ngurB4n 0 points1 point ago*

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1) That shouldn't matter. This is science, not American Idol. You can't change the definition of the universe just because you're worried that children won't be able to learn and remember a quantity of something and it's individual namings. That's NOT science. It doesn't change anything. WE aren't changing anything. The universe is as it is, it's only our understanding that changes. Math is exactly the same way. We change our equations only because we realize they were wrong in the first place.

Those people are wrong and should be laughed out of the scientific community. Plain and simple. There's no "debate" here, unless you consider the ramblings of idiots worthy of debate. I certainly don't. Let's keep science as science, not another failed example of no child left behind.

2) So that's what science has become now? It's American Idol. Okay. That's good to know. Let's all vote on what we personally think and just ignore the facts. Yeah... how about no. Pluto is not a normal planet. It's also not a normal [something else]. It's a weird little thing that isn't even the size of our moon, isn't perfectly round, doesn't clear it's own orbit, has a schizophrenic orbit, etc. etc. etc. Sure, it has a somewhat round shape, it has moon's, etc. So it's pretty clear that it isn't one or the other, and that's not debatable. Those are literal facts about Pluto. So if it's not one or the other, then what is it? Pluto being a Dwarf Planet is perfectly acceptable by anyone in the science community that actually uses scientific thought to determine things instead of a personal agenda.

Also, the majority of scientists and classroom teachers around the world have accepted Pluto as a Dwarf Planet. In short, nobody cares what a few scientists that didn't get to share their personal thoughts on the subject at that particular time think. At this point, it doesn't matter what-so-ever at all and better yet, it wouldn't make a difference if we returned to the debate, as the majority accept it's current definition. So it really doesn't matter and thus this point is entirely irrelevant.

3) That's why we call it a "Dwarf Planet" now instead of a "regular" planet. It's a whole new object in the sky. Well, it's not new, our understanding of it is new. Pluto always was what it is. This is nothing more than a case of mistaken identity on our part.

You may not like it- But there is legitimate debate here...

No there isn't.

[–]exspasticcomics 1 point2 points ago

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1) I Agree. It's silly. I'm just reporting what happened-

Well, we can’t have school children memorizing thirty planets! That’s preposterous! So, in all of their wisdom, about 435 of the 10,000 members of the IAU voted to approve the last line of new definition, which is, “and has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit.”

http://www.revrob.com/sci-a-tech-topmenu-52/40-pluto-not-a-planet-shouldnt-size-count

2 & 3) Food for thought....

http://io9.com/5770607/2-planets-share-the-same-orbit

I'm just reporting what happened here. There is a debate. And claiming bias doesn't help. It goes both ways... I mean- If the IAU change their opinion tomorrow and there was 30 planets in the solar system...

What's wrong with that?

You are right. We're talking science here. Just the facts. But when scientists find multiple planets on the same orbit (And I'm not talking small bodies here either...)

...The definition doesn't hold up.

[–]Aloss 2 points3 points ago

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Can someone make a TL;DR version of this, is 2.30 am and i´m not feeling like reading that much ಠ_ಠ

[–]PatAunces 12 points13 points ago

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Pluto is small. We're discovering lots of shit that's the size of pluto, but they're basically asteroids and shit. So we said "Fuck Pluto, that shit's not really a planet anyways", instead of getting a solar system gang bang of new planets.

[–]Aloss 1 point2 points ago

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Thanks mate, here have a very humble upvote :)

[–]RealityRush 1 point2 points ago

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More like solar system bukake.

[–]khyberkitsune 0 points1 point ago

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No.

A planet technically classifies as one only if it clears out its orbit so that it is the only thing in that particular orbit. Pluto has tons of other shit in its orbit. It's messy so it gets punished by not getting to be a planet until it is a good little celestial body and cleans up its space.

[–]P4ngurB4n 5 points6 points ago

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TL;DR - People like underdogs and people like cartoon dogs.

[–]Aloss 2 points3 points ago

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thanks!

[–]adhding_nerd 0 points1 point ago

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While science is usually tangible fact, this is one of the few cases that's not. I agree that pluto shouldn't be a planet (unless eris, ceres, etc are too) but planet is just a term, which doesn't even tell you much in the first place.

[–]Lowbacca1977 4 points5 points ago

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Now it does

[–]adhding_nerd 0 points1 point ago

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No, it really doesn't. Here I'll let Neil deGrasse Tyson explain it

He went on, saying “planet” doesn’t tell you much and you have to ask all sorts of questions such as is it big or small, rocky or gaseous, in the habitable zone or not, etc. “If you have to ask twenty questions after I say I’ve discovered a planet, the word has lost its utility.” Tyson said “planet” had utility far back in time when there wasn’t much else we knew about, but we know so much more now. “If we’re going rely on one word and put them all in one pot, what are we doing as scientists and educators? The time has come to discard the useless words and invent a whole new system to respect the level of science we have achieved…We’re in desperate need of a new lexicon to accommodate this knowledge,” he said.

[–]drewrunfast 0 points1 point ago

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I don't think P4ngurB4n.... oh well

[–]Conceivably_Close 0 points1 point ago

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Be precise. It was not a fact that pluto was not a planet. The whole thing is a naming convention to allow our puny brains to come up with some kind of reasonable categorization. Don't worry about it. Don't talk to anyone who is actually angry about the reclassification be cause that person is sort of absurd or stupid.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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All of those classifications are just based on arbitrary human categorization, though. The idea of the "dwarf planet" size is just something they made up recently (within the last 10 years). They can call things anything they want.

[–]P4ngurB4n 1 point2 points ago

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So we should just call anything and everything in our solar system a planet, or an asteroid, or [whatever]?

We name things to advance our understanding and to avoid confusion. Yeah, what we call them doesn't matter, but that we call them something does.

Imagine if every person in the world was named Fred. That for the most part is why we give unique things, unique names.

[–]DrunkInTheTrunk 0 points1 point ago

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What's the third category?

[–]P4ngurB4n 1 point2 points ago

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People who don't use intelligence but instead use personal opinion and thought based and formed around illegitimate and unscientific bias to determine "scientific stuff".

[–]DrunkInTheTrunk 0 points1 point ago

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Wow. That category makes the other categories look like "dwarf" categories.

[–]katey1801 0 points1 point ago

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At first I downvoted you, but then I saw the TL;DR version and upvoted you instead.

[–]DontCallMeSurely 6 points7 points ago

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Also, it didn't really have much to do with size.

[–]Patius 4 points5 points ago

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To be fair, if it was bigger, it would have the mass to clear its orbital path and have a more stable orbit and would be a real planet.

[–]Sharrakor 1 point2 points ago

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Its orbit is pretty wonky compared to the other planets.

[–]i_fap_faps 1 point2 points ago

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At least NASA would spell sincerely correctly.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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This is definitely true. It was some international astronomy committee who votes on all of those celestial matters.

[–]georgehotelling 0 points1 point ago

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If anything it should start with "Dear Neil deGrasse Tyson..."

[–]iddothat 0 points1 point ago

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It was Neil Degrasse Tyson!

[–]babysealsftw 0 points1 point ago

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you're correct! the decision was actually initiated by Neil Tyson.

[–]g_e_r_b 0 points1 point ago

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Yep, there's no NASA connection, and on top of that it's really old.

Voted downwards.

[–]Gneal1917 76 points77 points ago

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As an astronomer, a few things to clear up:

1: The IAU made this decision. NASA didn't decide anything about Pluto's status.

2: Pluto wasn't reclassified because of its size, though its size did play a major role. It was reclassified as a dwarf planet because it couldn't 'clear the neighborhood', becoming dominant in its orbital zone. A hard thing to do, since Pluto is in the Kuiper Belt.

Thank you for letting me ruin your fun.

[–]ThrustVectoring 2 points3 points ago

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If Pluto can be a planet without clearing its orbit, then so can Ceres, another large spherical object.

[–]Gneal1917 0 points1 point ago

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Poor Ceres, in the asteroid belt.

Just has Vesta to keep it company.

[–]duhcassinidivision 5 points6 points ago

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upvoted for politeness, and for the end, which seems to indicate Pluto was always fighting an uphill battle. the Allen Iverson of the planets...

[–]cos1ne 1 point2 points ago

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Question as an astronomer how would you feel about "planet" becoming a colloquial term, much like what most people consider a "continent" to be wrong, for instance according to geologists each one of these pieces is a continent, seems like they don't match the seven we've come to recognize.

So back on track why can't "planet" be used in the colloquial sense and then expanded upon in scientific literature at higher levels? e.g. terrestrial planet, dwarf planet, gas giant, ice giant. Is this really something astronomers really feel is necessary in the general public, who may not even care about space?

[–]Lowbacca1977 5 points6 points ago

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The thing is, we're not going out banishing people from using the word in that way. We're just using the word planet with a definition now, and people want to hear science by their rules. Which isn't how science works.

[–]newloaf 0 points1 point ago

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The thing is, we're not going out banishing people from using the word in that way.

Right. There isn't actually any way to stop people from using language any way they want --and if there was I don't think Astronomers would be in a position to do so-- so excuse me if don't fall on the floor thanking you.

[–]cos1ne -1 points0 points ago

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So does this mean Ceres can still be my favorite planet? :)

[–]Lowbacca1977 1 point2 points ago

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You can like it for what it is without labels entering the picture.

[–]cos1ne 1 point2 points ago

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In light of this I'm officially coining the term "planetqueer", astronomy without labels.

[–]Fenris_uy 3 points4 points ago

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Aren't each of these pieces a plate? Not a continent.Continents like countries are a political definition, that's why Europe, Asia and Africa share a land bond but are 2 different continents. Same with the Americas.

[–]cos1ne 0 points1 point ago

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There is no formal definition for continent among geologists is what I was getting at.

Also that was also my point, why can't planets be a political decision too? There is nothing that makes planets more "scientific" than continents as an object. So I don't see what the issue would be.

[–]sirin3 2 points3 points ago

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Also that was also my point, why can't planets be a political decision too?

It will be. 500 years from now. The solar parliament will pass a law "All habitats have to pay to taxes to their associated planet" which leads to the long and bloody Pluto wars.

And Pluto will finally be a planet again...

[–]Gneal1917 1 point2 points ago*

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I'm fine with using the word in a colloquial sense, but I think people should have at least some basic idea of the words they're using. For example, I've heard people call the moon a 'planet' and god forbid, a 'star'. For some reason, this makes me grit my teeth.

[–]INFEKTEK 0 points1 point ago

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Next you're going to tell me that religion is a business and that I'm not really the 1,000,000 visitor.

[–]Monomorphic 0 points1 point ago

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What about rogue planets? What about double planets? What about brown dwarfs?

My guess is this will have to be revised yet again once exoplanetary science becomes more mature.

[–]Gneal1917 1 point2 points ago

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I agree with you there. Right now, the only examples we have are planets in the solar system and planets in other star systems.

[–]jellyfishes 10 points11 points ago

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Why are people so obsessed with this Pluto shit? What the fuck difference does it make? Were your plans to go to Pluto ruined when it was no longer considered a planet?

[–]PyroSign 1 point2 points ago

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It's boggled my mind that people are somehow emotionally attached to a planet's status.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points ago

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Thanks for this three year old repost!

[–]cynthiadangus 10 points11 points ago

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Actually, more like five.

[–]newb0rn11 3 points4 points ago

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I don't understand how this has made the front page again!

[–]playd3ux 2 points3 points ago

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Then you will never understand reddit. Lucky bastard

[–]davincisbeard 0 points1 point ago

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You don't get out much.

[–]NOACeulemans 34 points35 points ago

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Hey Pluto,

we decided you can join the gang again if you assert some dominance over all your buddies in your own damn orbit. Seriously, they're bigger than you are. We can't have you tagging along with us if you're not even boss of your own neighborhood.

Sincerely,

the Planets.

P.S. Really, yo momma jokes? You can't even annoy Eris with those.

[–]Accurg 9 points10 points ago

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Dear Current Planets,

Come on guys, I thought we had a deal here! I already wrote the damn piece for you guys and died- it's not like I can add another movement for Pluto, so don't encourage him!

Sincerely,

The Ghost of Gustav Holst

[–]VonAether 1 point2 points ago

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English composer Colin Matthews, an expert on Holst, wrote a movement for Pluto, the Renewer.

[–]trimeta 0 points1 point ago

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On the other hand, Holst didn't write a movement for Earth, either. So make of that what you will.

[–]nonewithholding 0 points1 point ago

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In Plutos defense if he/she were to suddenly disappear it would wreck havoc on his so called friends. In a few million years... Just saying.

[–]i_make_ym_jokes 0 points1 point ago

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Your mom asserts some dominance over all your buddies.

[–]samdecimus 31 points32 points ago

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I don't understand this emotional investment people seem to have in the arbitrary title assigned to a space rock billions of miles away.

[–]RichardPeterJohnson 3 points4 points ago

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THERE! ARE! NINE! PLANETS!

</Picard>

[–]Patius 7 points8 points ago

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To be honest, it's a nostalgia/childhood thing.

Everyone learns about the planets when they're a kid, so they feel minorly annoyed about the changes. Everyone makes jokes to express the minor annoyance, but I don't think anyone really cares.

Also maybe a twinge of good ol' anti-science/anti-scientist sentiments in the more conservative parts of the US.

[–]StalinsLastStand 2 points3 points ago

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It's the same reason we don't use Metric!

[–]betterthanthee 1 point2 points ago

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You assume that someone has to be "conservative" to have anti-science sentiments.

[–]captainfwiffo 0 points1 point ago

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Maybe not, but you have to be anti-science to qualify as a conservative in good standing these days.

[–]Bubblebath_expert 1 point2 points ago

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It's a color of the bike shed thing. They have no idea what hydrostatic equilibrium is, but they feel very competent as to the use of simple words to name things they've heard about all their lives.

[–]P4ngurB4n 1 point2 points ago

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You should check out my above comment. To summarize; People like underdogs and people like cartoon dogs. That's about it.

[–]kvan 0 points1 point ago

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It's all about the trivia games. People don't want to lose their cheese wedge over the age of a question card, especially with a safe category like green.

[–]alliterationactivist 8 points9 points ago

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Pluto it's not the size of the plant that matters, but the motion of the orbit.

[–]dc469 5 points6 points ago

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Since Pluto has a larger eccentricity, it's motion certainly is different than the rest of the planets. Also, it's motion is slightly crooked.

[–]skepticalDragon 8 points9 points ago

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Hey, some girls are into that. I mean planets. Some planets are into that.

Fuck this, I'm going to bed.

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[–]alliterationactivist 1 point2 points ago

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Everyone in there right mind knows that Pluto has a huge dick..... and I'm pretty sure it gave Jupiter herpes, did you see Jupiter's huge red spot?

[–]duhcassinidivision 0 points1 point ago

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brings to mind the Yakov Smirnoff baseball joke about walking proud with four balls.

[–]marriage_iguana 6 points7 points ago

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Apart from this being an old image, and NASA having nothing to do with the decision, it's also wrong...
The whole thing is this: It's not big enough. NASA's mom told Pluto it was "big enough... a good size" but she hasn't been back for another round. It's not like she's even a size queen, but Jesus, Pluto, you are small. Way fucking small. She can fuck just about any other planet, but when it comes to Pluto, she's all "is it in yet?".
You're not even the biggest Planetoid! Eris is bigger than you.
I don't want to be a dick about it Pluto, but you decided to make size an issue. And the crux of that issue is that you are very, very small. Go try and fuck another planetoid. Planets are out of your league.

[–]GFBIII 4 points5 points ago

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When Pluto was reclassified, I have to admit, I reacted irrationally. Given that I'm just about 40, for all of my life I was taught that we had 9 planets in our solar system. Just as the Earth is number 3, Pluto was number 9. Not having read the reasoning, and supporting data, my reaction was merely emotional - based solely upon the disruption of my preconceived notion.

Last week, listening to a podcast with Neil deGrasse Tyson he commented that our moon had a greater mass than Pluto. I verified this, and looked up some of the other reasoning for the reclassification and now it no longer bothers me that it was reclassified. It makes sense, my worldview has been altered. Now if spot-quizzed on how many planets we have, I may instinctively respond 9, but when reminded, I'll readily admit my mistake.

Thanks science!

[–]Lowbacca1977 1 point2 points ago

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Also, for some fun, if you're 40.... when Pluto was reclassified, it had spent more of your life closer to the sun than Neptune had

[–]GFBIII 1 point2 points ago

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Nice. An upvote for you sir. You've further brightened my day.

[–]Shaolinmunkey 4 points5 points ago

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I'm hung like planet Pluto, hard to see with the naked eye But if I crashed into Uranus...

[–]avengepluto 8 points9 points ago

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Finally, it's my time to shine!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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you are awesome

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Because you're the hero that Pluto deserves...

[–]cynthiadangus 2 points3 points ago

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What a coinkydink, last night's Nova episode was The Pluto Files featuring Neil DeGrasse-Tyson.

[–]IsomorphicAlgorithm 1 point2 points ago

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notices user might be of the female genus

Initiate small talk..

So how was the episode?

[–]cynthiadangus 7 points8 points ago

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Small talk ineffective; receiving party is male

Shutting down to conserve power

[–]PlutodaPlanet 2 points3 points ago

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I approve this message

[–]itwaspluto 0 points1 point ago

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Likewise, my friend.

[–]n-space 2 points3 points ago

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So who else checked the comments just to see if someone already commented on the spelling of "Sincerly"?

[–]solblurgh 2 points3 points ago

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*sincerely.

[–]Griffith 2 points3 points ago

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You reposted this and didn't even bother to fix "Sincerly"?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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the truth is if we consider pluto a planet, then theres about 300 other objects we would have to consider planets and no one wants to go through that trouble

[–]khyberkitsune 2 points3 points ago

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This would be funnier if size had actually been the issue.

The fact that it hadn't fully cleared out its orbit is what removes the classification.

[–]TaslemGuy 0 points1 point ago

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Cannot. Upvote. Enough.

[–]fourthlifeproduction 0 points1 point ago

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I upvote in your honor.

[–]JordanRodkey 5 points6 points ago

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Pluto is smaller than our moon. Planetoid is better than that small dick of a space rock.

[–]P4ngurB4n 0 points1 point ago

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You can ask anyone, anywhere, whether they know about Pluto and they'll likely say yes. You can also ask them how large, or small, it is and they will have absolutely no idea at all. Pretty interesting, I think.

There are asteroids larger than Pluto. Our moon is bigger than Pluto. Pretty much everything in our galaxy, is bigger than Pluto. It's not just small, it's fucking tiny.

[–]Lowbacca1977 1 point2 points ago

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Nope. Pluto's about 1400 miles (if google told me the truth), the largest asteroid is only about 600 miles.

[–]P4ngurB4n 0 points1 point ago

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http://www.space.com/1373-object-bigger-pluto-discovered-called-10th-planet.html

Eh, we'll wait and see I suppose. We don't seem to have enough knowledge on what this object is yet. So you're technically right.

[–]Lowbacca1977 0 points1 point ago

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The asteroids dont cover the outer solar system stuff

[–]rokatoro 0 points1 point ago

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Admittedly most of the things we've seen in our galaxy are a fair bit larger than earth

[–]cryptobeast 1 point2 points ago*

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The IAU reclassified Pluto. Not NASA. There are objects in the past that were considered planets and reclassified too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet#Former_classifications and NASA's New Horizons space craft will arrive there in 2015.. maybe new science data will be produced that will change Pluto's status, that's how scientific theory works.

[–]goforglory 1 point2 points ago

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Oldest. Shit. EVER!

[–]prometheus_ 1 point2 points ago

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Back when I was your age, this was already a repost

[–]gazamcnulty 1 point2 points ago

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sweet jesus this is th oldest god damn joke

[–]RickFast 1 point2 points ago

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How topical!

[–]dlink 1 point2 points ago

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HA HA HA I LOVE TOPICAL HUMOR!

[–]MistressDyvia 1 point2 points ago

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I haven't read all the comments, but does this really need to be in r/funny? Lol.

I know a lot about astronomy, at least compared to the average person. And when that subject comes up my first response is usually, "do you understand that pluto is less than a quarter the size of our moon?"

Which is usually followed by "no."

[–]initforthegold 1 point2 points ago

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Wasn't this decision made years ago? I'm glad you finally found a comeback.

[–]hollimer 1 point2 points ago

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Pluto is smaller than Earth's moon. It doesn't have sentient beings, nor is Pluto itself sentient. No one needs to be offended by the supposed "demotion."

[–]jeebuz7 1 point2 points ago

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NASA had nothing to do with the decision. It was the International Astronomical Union.

[–]dumpling4 1 point2 points ago

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Sincerly.

[–]Xavmaga 1 point2 points ago

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Repost

[–]OopsABoner 3 points4 points ago

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Honestly... Why do people care if it's called a planet or not?

Also, your mom jokes stopped being funny after I fucked your mom.

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[–]P4ngurB4n 0 points1 point ago

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Pluto wishes.

[–]ShrimpuhFriedRice 0 points1 point ago

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Read this in Sean Connery's voice

[–]walterpstarbuck 0 points1 point ago

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Isn't it sad when genuinely funny content is marred because someone didn't think to look up the word "sincerely?"

[–]SuperNashwan 0 points1 point ago

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[–]nutnics 0 points1 point ago

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[–]Corporate_Suit 0 points1 point ago

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I personally love the "Worm" logo. Makes me nostalg for Flight of the Navigator.

[–]Elided_Ego 0 points1 point ago

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"Your dad did too... wait a minute..."

[–]unglad 0 points1 point ago

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Your mom didn't know about the kuiper belt.

[–]Locomaine 0 points1 point ago

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dont fuck with the pluto:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuggoth

[–]phoxer 0 points1 point ago

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this is so old fucking news can I please down vote this another 106 x times

[–]Kwedo 0 points1 point ago

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Pluto was my gamer-tag as 15 years old. I can confirm.. My e-peen was gigantic back then!

[–]polarbearrape 0 points1 point ago

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did some research on who discovered pluto. learned it was my great uncle. fun fact.

[–]CafeSilver 0 points1 point ago

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[–]invalidwat 0 points1 point ago

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Pluto was disconsidered as a Planet because there wasn't enough aliens living there

[–]chronicwisdom 0 points1 point ago

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Pretty funny pun but the debate it's started in the comment section is ridiculous. Pluto isn't a fucking planet because it doesn't meet the criteria. We need good criteria for classifying planets because we are looking for more for a variety of good reasons. Since including objects like Pluto in the definition would likely result in countless non planetary objects being mistaken for planets at some point the definition needs to exclude Pluto and dwarf planets like it. If you want to call Pluto that's fine, you're just wrong...get over it. People who have spent their lives studying these phenomena don't need to take shit from morons who are sad about Mickey's dog

[–]vdirequest 0 points1 point ago

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I prefer "Your mom thought I was a planet."

[–]esaevian 0 points1 point ago

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[–]cryptogram 0 points1 point ago

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Did someone go to the old news/images vault and find one to submit? As pointed out, this was relevant/funny like 5 years ago when it was decided Pluto was no longer a planet. Also, NASA hasn't used the "worm" logo for like 20 years too..

[–]seditious_commotion 0 points1 point ago

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My favorite quote on the subject:

"If Pluto was closer to the sun, the ice would melt and it would form a tail, PLANETS CAN'T HAVE TAILS!" - Neil deGrasse Tyson

[–]Drumheld 0 points1 point ago

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I wasn't that they re-classified the planetary size classes, and then after this decision pluto no longer me the requirements.

Pluto was observed later to be two separate bodies. What they though once constituted one large planetary object, was now a "planitessimal" and it's moon (which is almost the same size) in a parent child relationship.

[–]majix 0 points1 point ago

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Neil Tyson is the one responsible for excluding pluto from the planets. you all have a boner for that guy and yet you bitch about the most important thing he takes credit for.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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pluto also has smooth nuts

[–]newloaf 0 points1 point ago

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Jesus I love this. The greatest one liner in the history of Astonomy?

[–]lilrabbit129 0 points1 point ago

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Shit just got real y'all.

[–]blainetrimble 0 points1 point ago

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Of course when I posted this a year ago I only got twenty karma. Fuck you.

[–]bickgr -1 points0 points ago

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i literally lol'd.... in a quite office, which i then had to explain what I was doing on the computer instead of work.... worth it

[–]flipsyouoff4noreason -4 points-3 points ago

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[–]blackoak365 -1 points0 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

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[–]Qwalme -1 points0 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

The worst thing about the re-classificaiton? : My Very Easy Method Just Speeds Up Naming ..................................:(

[–]AdamSpaceKing -1 points0 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

its funny cuz its true

[–]TheJames69 -1 points0 points ago

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Are you fucking 12 years old? What is this crap?