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submitted 9 months ago by ReDyP
[–]SomeEEEvilGuy 39 points40 points41 points 9 months ago*
Because homosexuals are the last group religious leaders can unite their followers against, now that inter-racial marriage is no longer illegal and racial discrimination is over. edit: Alright, over is a bad word to use. It would be better to say now that racial discrimination is no longer legal/accepted.
[–]WellHeresMyFourthAcc 16 points17 points18 points 9 months ago
What about atheists?
[–]p4r4is0 10 points11 points12 points 9 months ago
Here in the Philippines us atheists are still considered sub-human by the majority regardless of their chosen faith. The warring groups of different beliefs can put up a united front when they deal with atheists. Its good to know they can be united in hating one thing.
[–]DefinitelyRelephant 3 points4 points5 points 9 months ago
Atheists are actually the biggest threat to religion, because we make logical, consistent, reasonable points. We expose hypocrisy, we drag inconsistency back out, screaming, into the light of awareness.
[–]JetLife93 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
Sounds like what a christian would say.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
Atheists most recently are viewed worse than gays in the US n_n;. I think one survey had levels of atheist trust in same region as convicted rapists... yeah
[–]WellHeresMyFourthAcc 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
Yep. Saw that article on FriendlyAtheist, but I do think the conclusions are a bit shaky. The tactic used in the survey (that particular fallacy) has been shown to produce unreliable results as it exploits people's stupidity by not being straightforward. (I'm more against the wording than against the actual conclusions- of course people view us negatively as a demographic, but the "less trusted than rapists" part is a bit stretching it- people find it likely for untrustworthy members of their community to be atheists, but probably don't exactly view us as worse than rapists).
[–]JetLife93 -2 points-1 points0 points 9 months ago
Mexicans are viewed way worse than both of them put together.
[–]Shampyon 12 points13 points14 points 9 months ago
racial discrimination is over.
About that...
[–]frodevil 9 points10 points11 points 9 months ago
dat sensationalist headline
A church banned holding wedding CEREMONIES for interracial couples, not like the the whole state of kentucky banned it.
Still fucked up though. Fucking ignorant hicks.
[–]drockers 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
no one can save america from being a shit hole son I'm sorry but it's just too far gone.
[–]TheJBW 4 points5 points6 points 9 months ago
Don't worry, they still have us...
[–]BigTimer5 3 points4 points5 points 9 months ago
racial discrimination
Black guy here reporting in. Not really.
[–]Fenris_uy 5 points6 points7 points 9 months ago
Wow, 2 black guys reporting. ;)
[–]BigTimer5 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
Whoops, I accidentallyeded'ed
[–]DingDongSeven 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
Religious leaders get pretty cranky about atheists, still. I mean, what other group has any US President ever said he thinks should not be considered American Citizens: Atheists. George Herbert Walker.
[–]neoman4426 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
to be fair, it wouldn't surprise me if he had said it, but I've only ever seen it traced back to one source. if someone in that position said such a thing, I would think at least one other person in attendance would have reported. at the very least someone would have agreed with him. in absence of someone else having reported without using the one guy as a source, or at the very least a recording or something, I'm going to stick to allegedly
[–]DingDongSeven 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
To be fair, and to be honest, please don't go with "allegedly." The man was repeatedly asked, and confronted by atheist organizations, asking him about this.
[–]neoman4426 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
Fair enough. I was only going off of what I found with a cursory search, I am open to changing my views when presented with new evidence, or at least evidence I had not personally come across.
[–]DingDongSeven -1 points0 points1 point 9 months ago
I respect that. But just to be clear: so we agree that he said those things about atheists, right?
Upgraded from "allegedly" to "likely" in my mind since i am now going on your word word that other sources exist. I will ammend again after confirming one way or the other once i get around to looking again.
[–]ReDyP[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
Could you provide a source? I don't like how you are drilling this guy without presenting ANY evidence to support your claims. Sound familiar?
[–]BigTimer5 4 points5 points6 points 9 months ago
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago
I'm a white guy who can also confirm that racism hasn't disappeared yet, though not through firsthand experience.
[–]HigHIdrA 4 points5 points6 points 9 months ago
AS A CHRISTIAN ITS MY RIGHT TO PICK AND CHOOSE FROM THE BIBLE WHAT TO BELIEVE AND ACCEPT!
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 9 months ago
See, the thing that gets me is where the line is drawn.
You look through the Bible at all the rules it demands of you, yet very few people obey ALL of them, yet vehemently defend the FEW they do.
Then if you bring this up, ask them why they're not stoning their brother for being Atheist and they might mention how these rules were created in a different time and things have changed, they might say how this is illegal now or something similar.
But then you have to ask, the Jewish died because of their faith during WWII, they could have renounced their faith and survived, but they didn't because they believed that in doing so they wouldn't get into heaven. So why do 'Christians' ignore these rules just because they're not inkeeping with modern laws?
Surely if this book is all knowing they should be following it to the T, regardless of what they think or what society says, if you want into heaven, you have to kill that heretic of a brother. Yet they don't, and somehow they've convinced themselves that they're still getting into this heaven after blatantly disregarding Gods word just because the times have changed?
It just doesn't work.
[–]MayMT 4 points5 points6 points 9 months ago
But then you have to ask, the Jewish died because of their faith during WWII, they could have renounced their faith and survived...
Untrue. Even if a jewish person "renounced" their faith, if you were born to jewish parents or had at least one jew in your family, you were killed or taken away.
But the rest of what you say makes total sense and I agree with you.
[–]leredditffuuu 9 points10 points11 points 9 months ago
Haha yeah, the idea that if the Jews renounced they're faith that they would've been free to go would've made a pretty ridiculous story.
"Halt! Icht bien al still Jewish?" "No, today I guess I'm done being Jewish." "Exczellent... to zee waiting room with you! Zere vill be coffee and donutz along vith your new ID card!"
"Halt! Icht bien al still Jewish?"
"No, today I guess I'm done being Jewish."
"Exczellent... to zee waiting room with you! Zere vill be coffee and donutz along vith your new ID card!"
[–]strangefolk 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago
Very well done
[–]WillBlaze 3 points4 points5 points 9 months ago
This basically sums up most people I know that are devout Christians. Grasping onto their religion because it mirrors their bigoted hatred.
"You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out God hates all of the same people you do." -Anne Lamott
[–]The_Noisemaker -2 points-1 points0 points 9 months ago
I'm sorry that these are the Christians you know. The ones I know, even the ones who disagree with homosexuality, approach homosexuals with compassion and love, and on a whole, try to show love to everyone.
Right. But in their minds, they are still going to burn for eternity in the fires of hell. Boy is that ever compassionate and loving.
[–]The_Noisemaker -1 points0 points1 point 9 months ago
The reason for someone going or not going to hell has nothing to do with homosexuality, and is dependent on accepting Jesus' salvation through faith. As Christians, it is our mission to show others the love and compassion to keep them from Hell.
[–]TheFinalResistance 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
Can a murderer go to heaven, if he accepts "Jesus"? Maybe even the last moment before he dies?
(You probably don't see how you're going to fail yet, but you will. This is going to be all kinds of good fun :D)
Absolutely. There's even the mention of the thief next to Jesus on the cross. I don't think he murdered anyone, but it's a good example.
[–]the_atomic_gnome 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
You missed the bit where the religious guy claims that all that unpleasant stuff is in the Old Testament and that Jesus made it all better, then the bit where the atheist points out that most of the anti-gay stuff is in the Old Testament and anyway Jesus said it still applied. Also the bit where the religious guy flips out at the atheist for having an idea of what he's talking about and accuses him of being Satan in disguise.
[–]stop_being-a-dick 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
I don't think I've ever heard this argument, most homophobes feel comfortable just saying "I don't like gay people."
[–]Graped_in_the_mouth 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
This is an important distinction.
Many, many people who claim biblical support for their views are, really, just looking to justify their pre-existing homophobia - which is likely tied to latent homosexuality, according to one study.
[–]TimMitchell 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
Pretty brave comic
[–]do_be_do 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
There are plenty of Christians who don't think Women should speak in the church, either.
[–]ModernFreeThinker 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
Christians and many other religious groups do not technically hate homosexuals, they are disgusted by them. This is shown in many many scientific studies. This is not to say that the "disgusting" is not a form of bigotry but it is different than the hate engendered vs minorities or other religious groups.
[–]SometimesATroll 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago
Overgeneralizing works both ways. I have met christians who are just fine with homosexuals and are for gay marriage. I have also met christians that really do hate gays.
[–]murph1331 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
I've actually never come across a christian person who hates gay people. I don't know why people look at Rick Perry and Westboro and think that religious people are like that.
[–]svullenballe 3 points4 points5 points 9 months ago*
I don't know why people call themselves Christian and associate themselves with those nut jobs. They are after all the true Christians following the doctrine to a tee.
[–]zzarch 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago
Gee, maybe because you want people to look at you and think that everyone has the same experience as you did?
[–]fancyl 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
Source
[–]Darien13 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
It's funny how people still try to argue against same sex marriage when the arguments they use against it are almost identical to ones used back then against inter-racial marriage, which didn't work.
[–]Sdingel 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
Nicely put.
[–]BlazeOrangeDeer -13 points-12 points-11 points 9 months ago*
I know plenty of Christians that don't hate gay people, but do hate homosexuality. Ignorance and hatred are not the same thing, even if they often occur together.
edit: "dissaprove of homosexuality" would probably be more accurate than "hate".
[–]Cartesian_Duelist 12 points13 points14 points 9 months ago
The cognitive dissonance of this is just astounding. The action/lifestyle whatever is inextricably tied with the person in such a way that it is a core part of who they are. This "Hate the sin, not the sinner" shit is just a convenient, self-righteous sidestep so you can clumsily try to avoid people calling you a bigoted asshole.
[–]BlazeOrangeDeer -1 points0 points1 point 9 months ago
Oh, they still might be bigoted assholes, but not necessarily the kind that are motivated by hatred. Their motivation is ignorance and confusion.
[–]Eclipser 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
But they're still wrong no matter what.
Obviously, and I never said otherwise. I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted so consistently, my point was just that this comic is not necessarily applicable to all opponents of gay rights.
For me it was because you appeared to be supporting those people you mentioned who "dislike homosexuality" but not homosexuals themselves. Perhaps I just misunderstand you, though.
I agree that the comic in question is not applicable to all opponents of gay rights, but in a Christian context, it appears to represent that religion perfectly. Their ignorance creates their dislike, or hatred, or whatever you want to call it. They go hand in hand. In fact, I'd wager that the majority of hatred against homosexuals stems from pure ignorance.
In short, it's the ignorance which is the root of the problem from which hatred can grow.
[–]ReDyP[S] 11 points12 points13 points 9 months ago
"I have plenty of black friends, but I sure do hate me some niggers." Bigotry is bigotry.
[–]BlazeOrangeDeer -2 points-1 points0 points 9 months ago
See, the people I'm talking about would never call someone a faggot. I'm not talking about all Christians, just saying that it's possible to disagree with you by being confused instead of purposefully hateful. I guess people don't believe me?
[–]ReDyP[S] 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago
Cartesian_duelist has a very nice response to this IMO.
[–]DeepRoot 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago
I can agree w/ that statement.
[–]muchadoaboutstupid 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
I'm actuallly not sure why this is being downvoted... He's saying he knows Christians who do this... I agree that said xtians are morons but don't kill the messenger, guys.
[–][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 9 months ago
But see, they're wrong!
[–]Graped_in_the_mouth -2 points-1 points0 points 9 months ago
Except they are.
[–]djivan -8 points-7 points-6 points 9 months ago
I'm not religious but I don't think bing gay is correct and normal. I don't think it makes you a bad person eather. I believe there is a something we don't understand about this. Psycology wise. There is alot we need to learn about the brain still and the answer is there we just need to look for it. Evolution tells us it's important that we reproduce so there is no natural reson we should not. Given the fact that we reached 7 billion on this earth and multiplying rapidly there is no hurry on finding a solution just yet.
[–]danski 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago*
I'm not religious but I don't think bing gay is correct
What is correct? What is incorrect? Who decides?
and normal
Neither is being short, or being tall, or having an IQ lower or higher than 100, or being lactose tolerant. What's your point?
I believe there is a something we don't understand about this. Psycology wise.
Homosexuality occurs widely in nature in species other than humans. Psychology doesn't have anything to do with it.
Evolution tells us it's important that we reproduce
Evolutionary Theory describes a natural process in which creatures that reproduce pass on their genes. Natural Selection describes a process in which creatures "fit" for their environment are more likely to reproduce. Neither of these tell us to do anything.
By your logic, where do infertile people fit in? How about those with the potential to produce disabled children? How about asexual people?
Look; your genes aren't the only thing you pass down. We're a learning, communicating, thinking species. You can not have kids and still pass down works of art, useful knowledge, and happy memories. If you think that your only legacy is in your DNA then you need to think about it more.
[–]luKrek -1 points0 points1 point 9 months ago
This is nothing to be subjective about, just as it's not ok to be subjective about someones color, or heritage in general.
Homosexual creatures are observice everywhere among alot of species everywhere, so there's actuallty nothing more natural, and evolution made it that way.
Your logic is way flawed, and you should come out of the closet. Fag.
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