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Wow. Could this be normal golf-ball behaviour? [gif] (i.imgur.com)
submitted 8 months ago by brainburger
[–]Kirt1984 201 points202 points203 points 8 months ago
This one seems more plausible.
[–]D14BL0 72 points73 points74 points 8 months ago
This is like the billionth video I've seen where "worst nipple piercing reaction" is a suggested video.
[–]Khephran 28 points29 points30 points 8 months ago
I've never seen that, it must have something to do with your viewing history.
[–]D14BL0 12 points13 points14 points 8 months ago
Nah, even look at the comments for the video. I think they're doing some sort of tag-jacking to make it appear relevant to as many videos as possible.
[–]faceplanted 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago
From having uploaded quite a few videos I can tell you that what people mention in the comments affects relateds more than video tags so if one person sees it once, they mention the oddity of seeing it in the related in their comments causing more people to see it and then mention it, it's a vicious video circle.
[–]lucid_point 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
Oh dear. I see it too, what sorcery is this.
[–]SmackyChops 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
what sorcery is this
I don't know. What I do know, however, is how to trick people into thinking you're good looking.
[–]EvilGamerKitty -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
That is the worst reaction ever. It doesn't hurt that much.
What really hurts is when they pierce too deep and it won't heal... ever.
[–]DanWallace 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Seriously there tough girl? That wasn't a bad reaction at all. My ex literally screamed and cried and dug her fingernails into my hand. Shit was embarrassing.
[–]EvilGamerKitty 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
If you just take a deep breath and look away, the worst of the pain is over in just a few seconds. The girl in the video just made it worse by over-reacting and letting the pain amp up. It's a vicious feedback loop.
And you should have been embarrassed. Either she was over reacting, or she had no business getting pierced at all.
The girl in the video barely reacted at all. Don't be silly.
[–]tauisgod 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
It probably depends on a persons level of tolerance. Both mine hurt but not as bad as she's making it look. My GF got hers done next and she yelped really loud and squeezed the shit out of my hand, but didn't act as bad as the girl in this video. If you watch it again she looks down and watches. Don't do that; it makes things worse.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 8 months ago
I watch this in slow motion, then in normal speed in my head is a whole bunch of dudes in lab coats and glasses ducking as the ball ricochets around their lab breaking shit.
[–]redditis4queers 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago
I was hoping it was a video of a wicked bad slice. That's the behavior my golf balls usually exhibit.
[–]Libertarian_Atheist 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkB81u5IM3I
[–]Womec 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago*
There are soft and hard golf balls, and hundreds of varieties and brands in between.
Edit: So NO they are BOTH very plausible.
[–]gfixler 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
Reddit, like everywhere else, is full of people who want to chime in about things they don't know about. The links and videos all through this page dismiss the fact you've brought up. Here's a page on a few of the core technologies. One ball uses a "razor thin" coating of urethane, as an example of one difference. Callaway has a 4 core ball. DuPont has worked on multilayer thermoplastic core tech. Nike has some info about their various cores here. There are bunch of cores throughout history described here.
[–]Gigablah 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
How do the links and videos "dismiss" his statement? The first link you mentioned has a section on "compression", which actually confirms his argument.
[–]gfixler 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
People are linking to videos as proof that this video can't be a golf ball, when there are countless varieties of golf balls out there, of which the OP's link could very well be one. That's how. My first link has a section on compression that explains that there are a variety of compression types. This does not confirm his argument, but rather lends credibility to mine.
[–]Gigablah 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Oh, I get it now, I thought you were refuting Womec in your first reply.
Ah, I was wrong, too. The compression bit supports womec, and I agree.
[–]Nordoisthebest 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
And of course different velocities in the two videos.
[–]CaseyG 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Both claim to be 150 mph.
Oh. Hmm, I didn't see that part.
[–]r121 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
I love how they managed to make sure their logo was correctly oriented and facing the camera while firing it at 150mph.
[–]peterfares 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
That took a lot of shots.
[–]Doctor_Beard 5 points6 points7 points 8 months ago
Thanks, that was a cool video!
[–]blind__man 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
I like to wander...
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[–]blatch22 21 points22 points23 points 8 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y57pw_iWlk&feature=related
[–]chipbuddy 29 points30 points31 points 8 months ago
related video of a golf ball failing.
[–]develdevil 25 points26 points27 points 8 months ago
I would want to see a more even distribution of pressure being applied. The column pressing down on the ball is "sharper" than the flat surface in the OP gif. This is not conclusive.
[–]aldraek 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago
Exactly.. the surface is being sliced, which breaks the structural integrity of the ball at the end.
[–]pryomancer 11 points12 points13 points 8 months ago
The tension was unbearable, and it wasn't even a good break, it just sort of... split.
[–]xander787 6 points7 points8 points 8 months ago
I was expecting it to sort of shatter or something. Disappointed.
[–]reasonman 11 points12 points13 points 8 months ago
I instinctively winced when I thought it was going to break.
[–]TheRiff 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago
The tension was unbearable
Nice.
[–]debman3 7 points8 points9 points 8 months ago*
a ball of billiard seems as solid as a ball of gold. Does it do the same squishsquish thing?
edit: I MEANT BALL OF GOLF !!
[–]leonhart623 9 points10 points11 points 8 months ago
I like the way you talk.
I like his talk of way.
[–]neTed 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago
I believe something like gold is quite soft and will absorb the impact instead of a reaction like that.
[–]NorthernerWuwu 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Gold is extremely malleable and melts at a low temperature/pressure gradient. Given sufficient velocity a gold projectile would cheerfully deform right down to a few molecules of thickness on impact with a sufficiently hard surface.
You can even get gold to cover a complex surface on impact in a "splatter" effect that looks more like you threw paint at the surface than an initially solid metal.
[–]uselessjd 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
To answer your question - no. Billiard balls are extraordinarily hard and dense. Golf balls have a squishy rubber core.
[–]develdevil 24 points25 points26 points 8 months ago
After seeing all of the other videos people have posted, I don't think there is conclusive evidence to rule out the possibility that this is a real golf ball. The one video where the ball actually splits is not an honest recreation of the pressure that the ball in your gif is going through, so it is inconclusive. I would be interested in learning how fast this ball is traveling. I'm going to guess that if it is a real golf ball, it would have to be going at like 300mph to compress to that shape.
[–]burito 13 points14 points15 points 8 months ago
From the video caption (it's reposted all over the shop with different captions), it's claimed to be travelling at 150mph, just like the USGS one which does not deform nearly as much.
Having said that, I'm not aware of an ISO standard for ball composition, so combined with the crush video I'm thinking that perhaps some balls will deform as much as the op video.
[–]sirkazuo 11 points12 points13 points 8 months ago
I know from my own experiments cutting things in half as a child that some golf balls have a wound elastic like solid interior, while others have a hollow interior with some kind of goo in it. There may be others, but at the very least you're correct in assuming that golf ball construction can vary greatly.
[–]RobotCaleb 8 points9 points10 points 8 months ago*
As a teenager I cut into one of those balls wound in elastic. I pulled the shell off and started slowly cutting a path to the middle. I would slice into it a bit and watch the strands pop. I didn't know there was a solid core...
I ended up with a black eye when I had cut enough away for the core to be forcefully ejected into my eye. :(
[–]friedsushi87 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Your pain equals up votes my friend
[–]glen_s 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
I still have the scar from when my jackknife closed on my finger when I was trying to take the cover off of a golf ball.
That one had a small black rubber ball at the centre and then layers of wound elastic band maybe 2 mm wide, and then the hard white plastic shell.
[–]gfixler 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLh_QdQT360
[–]Bongpig 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
The balls with elastic are old style balls. Modern balls have the rubber/gooey stuff
[–]beavioso 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago*
Golf balls changed a lot in the mid to late 90's.
Professionals play solid golf balls now, but they are 3 or 4 piece designs. The core is one type of material with a certain radius, and then they layer 1 or 2 different materials over it and add a Urethane cover.
Long distance or cheaper golf balls are usually 2 piece. A core and a Surlyn cover for durability.
Golf balls and their insides
Old golf balls had liquid wound cores and Balata covers, but they were not very durable and optimized compared to todays golf ball. When the Titelist ProV1 hit the PGA Tour, driving distances went way up.
[–]potatosack 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago
We are in desperate need of an expert ball-deformer here, guys.
[–]limitz 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
USGA regulates ball hardness/composition. Certain brands are banned.
[–]what-the-what-what 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
150 mph isn't fast enough to do that to a golf ball. I would guess that the ball would have to travel around twice that speed to see it deformed like that.
Professionals swing the club around 110mph and those Long Drive Champions swing up to 140mph. With high speed cameras, it only shows the first 1/8 of the ball flatten out. No where near the OP gif image
[–]SteveD88 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago*
Having worked in a ballistic lab for a few weeks, I'd say this looks like some sort of trial being used to evaluate the setup of say a gas gun and a high speed camera. In such a set up the ball would be launched at a significantly higher speed then the 150mph shown in these other videos.
[–]avsa 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
There's chance for a middle ground: maybe ops video is of a cheap quality brand that's more elastic than standard golf balls, so it deforms more
[–]georgekeele 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Softer golf balls are more expensive. But nothing like as soft as OPs GIF. No way it's a real ball.
[–]beavioso 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
I don't think it's real, because of the dimple pattern on the golf ball.
It's reminiscient of a ball from the 60's or earlier. Of course, you can find plastic, hollow golf balls that look similar. Golf ball patterns of today are different thanks to computer aided design techniques. Here's another example of a senior/ladies ball, which should be a more compressible ball (i.e. softer).
Like you said, it would have to be 300 MPH or something ridiculuous.
Real PGA/European Tour golfers swing a driver somewhere between 103 MPH to upwards of 125 MPH. Long Drivers (LDA) golfers can swing close to 150 MPH if not slightly above, and produce golf ball speeds over 200 MPH. BTW, a perfect contact swing of around 100 MPH will produce a ball speed of about 148 MPH.
[–]sewneo 14 points15 points16 points 8 months ago
I love that no one has a legitimate answer...
[–]bikemaul 11 points12 points13 points 8 months ago
Such is life.
[–]sewneo 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
happy cake day btw.
[–]bikemaul 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
Thanks, this is the first one I have actually noticed.
[–]sewneo 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
I missed mine too. Maybe next year I'll notice. Or I'll get off reddit and start doing other shit. [right!]
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 8 months ago
maybe. according to this that's a 150 mph ball hitting a steel plate.
[–]Ph0X 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
Yeah, everyone else is posting videos of balls being hit by clubs, but those are probably at lower velocity. From a quick Google, I found that the professionals can get up to 100MPH, but I think it wouldn't be hard to assume that this probably wasn't really a professional and it might've been at 75MPH, which is half of OP's video.
[–]nasty_nate 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
I really had no way to get a speed reference either. The speed of the ball is very small compared to the oscillations and ripples of the ball, but golf balls are very light and rigid, so I still was clueless.
[–]Eternal2071 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago
Quite possibly. It looks like a clip from an older high speed video and golf balls were not always made of layered polymers. Some of the earlier balls were comprised of sap, fluid or other material.
[–]dattaway 3 points4 points5 points 8 months ago
I took apart a golf ball 30 years ago. Under the shell was a thick layer of wound rubber band string over a small solid rubber core.
[–]physics_deez_nuts 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
On meth, it is.
[–]andrewsmith1986 48 points49 points50 points 8 months ago
No.
[–]joshocar 7 points8 points9 points 8 months ago
and you know this how?
[–]andrewsmith1986 31 points32 points33 points 8 months ago
Because this has been posted like 50 times.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/936p5m7481450164//fulltext.html#Fig2
[–]quadtodfodder 28 points29 points30 points 8 months ago
How does this prove anything but that at a lesser impact, it deforms less?
[–]golden_boy 13 points14 points15 points 8 months ago
the physical properties of the plastic that make up the ball are not fully rigid, but far too rigid for it to be so fully deformed. Think about the volume of the thing, it doesn't make sense for either a hollow and air-tight rigid structure or for a full rigid structure to go fully flat at all, especially without losing its contents.
I don't know what the specific constants involved are, and I'm too lazy and tired to find them right now. try r/askscience, they have guys that will do the math for you.
[–]quadtodfodder 6 points7 points8 points 8 months ago
My understanding is that golf balls are essentially rubber band balls with a flexible plastic housing, so it doesn't seem impossible to me.
[–]georgekeele 5 points6 points7 points 8 months ago
Plastic has a certain amount of flex though. The gif shows it flat like a pancake, at which point it's either a rubber ball or (naturally) mocked up. If golf balls had enough flex to do that, they would not leave hard little worms of plastic in my wedge grooves when I hit a lofted shot.
Also, golf balls crack. Keep finding abandoned, cracked balls on the course.
There are dozens of different makeups of golf balls, though, and there are resins that do deform this much without breaking. It could be a real golf ball that simply isn't regulation. Some golf balls have hard plastic around a single rubber core. Some have multiple concentric cores. Some have wound filament around a core, and there are still others. There are non-regulation balls designed to go much farther than regulation ones. This could be one of those, too. I mean, check this one out. Golf ball technology is a huge industry.
[–]georgekeele -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
Yeah of course there are different ball makeups, but the outer is always harder than the ball must be to compress as much as it did in that gif. It simply isn't a golf ball.
It's unscientific to say that. It's perhaps not a traditional or regulation golf ball, but it may very well still be a golf ball.
[–]hennell 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
It's alive!
[–]lawpoop 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
It's not that flexible.
[–]SteveD88 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
the physical properties of the plastic that make up the ball are not fully rigid, but far too rigid for it to be so fully deformed.
I don't know much about ballistic impacts, but what I do know is that objects behave very differently during high speed impacts then at low speeds. It doesn't seem implausible to me that the plastic covering remains intact, simply because there isn't time enough for it to behave plastically.
Think about the volume of the thing, it doesn't make sense for either a hollow and air-tight rigid structure or for a full rigid structure to go fully flat at all, especially without losing its contents.
It doesn't go fully flat; it looks as if the volume is largely maintained.
[–]troubleondemand -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 months ago
it doesn't make sense for either a hollow and air-tight rigid structure or for a full rigid structure to go fully flat at all, especially without losing its contents.
Yet, the universe was once a singularity. Physics, how u work?
[–]NedDasty -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago
I would guess that, at super high-speed collisions, there is enough energy to heat up the ball to the point where massive deformation is possible.
[–]golden_boy 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
that'd be fast as hell, and I imagine it might break first? I don't know enough about thermodynamics. Maybe if it was already heated to the point of near-fluidity?
[–]SpikeX -6 points-5 points-4 points 8 months ago
Why is this getting downvoted? He's right, it's not possible, the golf ball would break (see this video).
[–]lilzilla 83 points84 points85 points 8 months ago
I would venture he's getting downvoted because, while accurate, it is not at all an informative answer. The OP is plainly curious about the phenomenon, and just "No" does nothing to address that curiosity.
[–]J_LaP -10 points-9 points-8 points 8 months ago
I would venture that he is getting downvoted because he is andrewsmith1986 and people don't like his useless comments on every, single, thing, posted, EVER.
[–]ZachSka87 -34 points-33 points-32 points 8 months ago
Don't ask a yes or no question if you don't want a yes or no answer.
[–]quadtodfodder 10 points11 points12 points 8 months ago
I'll bet you're great at parties.
[–]oc80z -2 points-1 points0 points 8 months ago
agreed. /r/geeks need more rude, less bitch.
[–]archemedes_rex -6 points-5 points-4 points 8 months ago
Let me expand with: No, you wouldn't be able to cut a smile into a ball that elastic using a nine iron.
[–]Willeth 12 points13 points14 points 8 months ago
That video doesn't tell us anything more than the fact that golf ball will deform slightly when struck. When fired with force against a solid object it may still be possible to deform completely. I doubt it too, but this video is hardly proof.
[–]quadtodfodder 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
I rather think this video suggests that the golf ball deforms in a way similar to the OP's pic. Also, what about THIS video?
[–]GiskardReventlov 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
1=1
[–]Devout 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Why are you getting downvoted? The Geek community is so angry!
[–]Dead_Rooster -11 points-10 points-9 points 8 months ago
You got your Thug Life tattoo yet? It's been a couple of months.
[–]andrewsmith1986 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
Nope. Too poor
[–]noface -6 points-5 points-4 points 8 months ago
Have you got yours? Sorry bout the beer the other night. Next week?
[–]Dead_Rooster -9 points-8 points-7 points 8 months ago
I certainly do. Can't do next week, week after maybe? Possibly even have to be in the New Year?
Some time soon. Will sort another meetup for early feb too I think.
[–]Dead_Rooster -6 points-5 points-4 points 8 months ago
Definitely keen for another full-size meetup.
[–]johnw188 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
Relevant how it's made episode - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLh_QdQT360
[–]waffleninja 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
It depends on the golf ball, but yes. Some balls are rocks (very hard). The softest balls were old balata balls which were popular in the 80s and early 90s and used by many pros. The softness have a huge advantage when you are putting or have very short shots. Hardness is more for hitting the ball far. The best balls today are composites which are finely tuned to have hardness to travel a long distance while having great feel for putting. Hard balls will not compress as much. Soft balls will compress easily (you can almost feel it if you squeeze a balata ball with your hands). You can think of softer balls like a marshmallow. I suspect this may have been a balata ball, but it could be fake as well.
[–]joshwoodward 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
We need MythBusters to test this. Just make sure they don't do it near my house.
[–]MyOtherAltIsAHuman 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
MASHED POTATO!
[–]Hypersapien 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
I think that ball is made of rubber.
[–]TheSkyNet 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
I'm going to have to guess no, mostly because although it has golf ball like dimples, that don't necessarily meen that its a golf ball.
Until I can find an original source.
There are countless styles and makes of golf balls with many various and patented core technologies. Golf balls are not all the same.
[–]mesablue 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
That's what it feels like when you hit it just right.
[–]anonymousT 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
I like my mozzarella shaped like a golf ball
[–]zero420 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
To me it looks like a drop of water in an experiment on ISS or something that has been layerd with the texture of a golfball.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
My physics teacher showed this to us yesterday 0.o
[–]archemedes_rex -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
Look, guys, a golf ball is a core of cork, wound with rubber cord, encased in hard plastic. What you're seeing is a golf ball shaped blob of gelatin.
[–]Bongpig 6 points7 points8 points 8 months ago
balls have not been made like that for a while
[–]archemedes_rex 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
Well, they were back when I played golf. Get off my lawn!!
[–]twisted_dna 0 points1 point2 points 8 months ago
I am just imagining my balls when I have sex.
[–]mistergookey -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
No. The ball in that gif compresses quite a lot before it bounces back off. This is what should happen if a golf ball gets compressed that much.
[–]elliuotatar 17 points18 points19 points 8 months ago
That's not a fair comparison. The diameter of the piston is less than that of the ball when deformed, so there is a sharp edge that the material of the ball ends up pressing against, and you can clearly see that's where there material of the ball splits.
[–]DimeShake 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago
Not to mention that dynamics can be different when they are stressed at different rates. The shell may be able to handle a split second of a certain pressure, but not when you lengthen the time it spends at that pressure.
[–]lpew 4 points5 points6 points 8 months ago
Not to mention that the stress distribution caused by the own ball's inertia when it hits a wall would be very different to squishing it between two plates.
[–]kadmylos -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 months ago
That's either CG or a volleyball.
[–]tekgnosis 10 points11 points12 points 8 months ago
There may be substantial variability in golf balls due to manufacturing techniques and materials. It is possible that some may act that way.
[–]kadmylos 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago
If you manufacture a golf ball to be similar to a volleyball, then sure.
[–]1nf1d3l -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
I wouldn't say that is true, otherwise, when a club impacted with the ball, the ball would simply flatten and not fly like they actually do.
While, yes, some golf balls are softer than others, no regulation golf ball should act like that.
[–]cr1swell -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
Yes, that's what golf balls do when they are hit very very hard.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
yes. it is absolutely normal.
[–]Libertarian_Atheist -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
[–]dvdlesher -1 points0 points1 point 8 months ago
WHOAAA... Trippin balls, dude....
[–]Eirches -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 months ago
Stop arguing. Ran it through tineye, got this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1284051/Incredible-slow-motion-picture-golf-ball-flattens-hits-steel-plate-150mph.html
It's a real golf ball.
[–]georgekeele 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
It's a Daily Fail link.
[–]SteveD88 1 point2 points3 points 8 months ago
The Daily Mail.
Enough Said.
[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 8 months ago
Unrelated golf video.
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