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[–]Sirtubb 181 points182 points ago

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This is from 4chan if I remember correctly

[–]cigarettesteve 46 points47 points ago

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You remember correctly Sir Tubb.

[–]hollow2759 14 points15 points ago

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Explains a lot.

[–]YourVirgil 138 points139 points ago

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It just kept going...

[–]Mecxs 58 points59 points ago

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Brevity, soul of wit, etc.

[–]BlazeOrangeDeer 143 points144 points ago

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Longwindedness is the soul of butthurt

[–]jeffp12 12 points13 points ago

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That is goddamn brilliant. I'm not even that drunk.

[–]atlas44 6 points7 points ago

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I don't agree. I am very drunk.

[–]brevityis 1 point2 points ago

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You called?

[–]cheezy8 37 points38 points ago

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It was just butthurt after butthurt after butthurt o.o

[–]RationalUniversalist 159 points160 points ago

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Came to the comments section for massive butthurt from both sides.

Left satisfied.

[–]BigKahunaBurger 67 points68 points ago

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This is why I come to reddit. I'm an average-looking guy with an average-looking girlfriend and this place makes me feel like I'm the fucking man. It's like swimming in a sea of aspies.

[–]doomtown 4 points5 points ago

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Is your girlfriend a vegetarian?

[–]BLOOD-BERSERKER 52 points53 points ago

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ALL THIS MEANS NOTHING TO ME

JUST GIVE ME AN AXE SO I CAN CLEAVE THE SKULLS OF MY ENEMIES

[–]Dved 18 points19 points ago

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Woman: Assertive feminist Man: Go to jail for assault

[–]birdablaze 30 points31 points ago

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This is the weirdest thing ever. I feel like I'm looking into this man's soul and hearing all of his most intimate secrets and fears.

[–]OneShotHelpful 526 points527 points ago

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Every last one of these points is a mild exaggeration of what happens to an average/below average guy compared against an attractive woman.

But who gives a fuck about ugly girls? They're not even people, right?

[–]MilkyChocoxD 82 points83 points ago

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I'm a VERY quiet and shy girl and I can say that I'm fucked for most of these.

[–]Snart_the_Cat 14 points15 points ago

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Society exists. I'm a very quiet and shy guy, and I learned the hard way that you have to work to maintain IRL relationships to get anywhere in life. Bitterness doesn't get you very far.

[–]GorgeouslyHumbl 8 points9 points ago

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Shyness is something that has to be overcome. I have clinical depression and have had it for most of my life. I've had practically no friends for most of my life. However, when I was thirteen I read How to Win Friends and Influence People and made a conscious effort to improve my social skills.

This has helped me forge and maintain relationships. I know it can be rough for a girl to get a date if they feel very self-conscious about how they look and they don't know how to flirt. Yet, I have faith in you MilkyChocoxD. Stay awesome.

[–]Klowned 2 points3 points ago

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Do you feel genuine about your relationships, or do you just feel like you're manipulating people and feel guilty about it?

Genuine question.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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many men find shyness incredibly attractive. As a very outgoing male, I'm one of them

[–]qwerasdf23423423 158 points159 points ago

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yea, pretty much. At least ugly guys have the potential to be skilled/talented at something and/or have a sense of humor. If a girl isn't attractive, she's lost what little value she may have had.

[–]c_megalodon 36 points37 points ago*

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Thanks. A female here. I lived more than half of my life being mocked because of my appearance. It didn't matter that I was more intelligent than the average girls around me. It didn't matter that I have some skills other girls didn't have. If I changed my appearance and try for something new, people said I was trying too hard. My WHOLE teenage years were spent facing the same mockery every day. And those mockery came from ugly men and even ugly women who looked a little better than me.

The ugly guys? I've never heard any girls explicitly mocked their appearance in front of them.

I'm sure there are "ugly" guys out there who face problems but this list is a ridiculous bullshit. I didn't get a boyfriend because "someone eventually settled for me". I fucking grew up (edit: noticing my flaws & fixing them) and changed my physical appearance, my mannerism, personality, fashion sense, etc.

[–]danth 6 points7 points ago

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It sucks to be ugly for either gender, but yeah, this list is incredibly biased, and I have to agree that it's much worse to be an ugly woman than an ugly man.

[–]davidr91 1 point2 points ago

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You equate changing everything about yourself with growing up? Am I the only one who finds that statement incredibly depressing?

[–]Airplane_Mode 12 points13 points ago

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I can't tell if sarcasm or just speaking the truth...

[–][deleted] 73 points74 points ago

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Look at any band with a successful female lead. She's super hot. There are plenty of bands with uggo front men that are successful.

Look at actresses. While there are some goofy looking women, the VAST majority of actresses are smoking hot, even the "uggo" ones that play character roles. They never cast girls that are ACTUALLY average looking, they cast attractive women who aren't playboy model hot and label them as "normies". On the men's side... we have Steve Buschemi, you see where I'm going.

Also... even look at the hard sciences. When a woman works in science and is even moderately attractive, the first thing people say in any comments section is "Yeah I'd throw my test tube in her Bunsen burner if you get my drift".

[–]Smacktastic 44 points45 points ago

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I don't think it's necessarily that less attractive men have an easier time. I think it's that women have more disparate ideas on what constitutes an attractive man.

So often I'll one group of women fawn over how 'hot' a guy is an another will think he's hideous. This doesn't really happen with men observing women.

[–]calicocelot 19 points20 points ago

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I'm surprised you're at negative karma for saying that. In my experience, your observation seems quite accurate. While, sure, men with horrible facial deformities may rarely to never be considered attractive, it does seem that women in Western culture, when taken as a whole, have more divergent tastes than do men. Individual women may only go for one kind of guy, but it really seems like the preferences that different groups and strata and counter-cultures of women have are broader than what different groups of guys like. Maybe it's because female beauty has been very normalized and widely idealized into only a few forms in this society, or maybe men biologically have more homogeneous tastes when it comes to the bodies and appearances of their partners. Or both. I could be way off.

[–]armedburrito 1 point2 points ago

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You obviously haven't overheard too many manly conversations. I can't tell you how many times my friends have thought some girl was smoking and I was grossed out, and vice versa.

[–]burnoutspartan 7 points8 points ago

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Truth son. That confidence and personality goes a long way.

[–]Snart_the_Cat 9 points10 points ago

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You're, like, aware that even "ugly" girls can fuck like crazy, right? A good personality and being great in the sack will last a lot longer than good looks and a fucked-up attitude.

[–]poopasdfasdf 5 points6 points ago

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Yeah but not many people give them a chance.

[–]McUsernamer 13 points14 points ago

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Ugly guys can fuck like crazy too, they just pay for it directly and upfront, rather than on food and entertainment, which is probably cheaper in the long run (and more sure). But, I do agree that a good personality is very important. Being confident and maintaining your body and appearance is also important, however. There's nothing wrong with trying to be physically attractive, it's beneficial to both sexes. But again, this should be combined with a good personality. The best of both worlds.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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what little value she may have had.

ಠ_ಠ

[–]sicinfit 9 points10 points ago

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They exist? I've never seen one in the wild, only heard from historic documentations a la Harry Potter and Twilight.

[–]Scherzkeks 5 points6 points ago

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Helloooooooooooo.

[–]jemologist 1 point2 points ago

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This made me very sad.

[–]Da_Dude_Abides 1 point2 points ago

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Every single one of these? That's an exaggeration.

[–]Sylotus 74 points75 points ago

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So if all women find someone (including the unattractive ones being settled for) and the majority of men are fucked and doomed to die alone for not being perfect or loaded, who are all these ladies pairing up with? Is there rampant polygamy that I'm unaware of? Are all of the straight women without suitable guys pairing off with each other?

[–]BROTALITY 42 points43 points ago

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everyone wants to have sex, just not with you.

(not referring to you specifically)

[–]Zrk2 9 points10 points ago

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...Yes?

[–]canonymous 2 points3 points ago

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[–]Smacktastic 12 points13 points ago*

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In this somewhat relevant study; 61% of Japanese men don't have a girlfriend. 50% of women don't have have a boyfriend. Notice the disparity?

I think a lot of women are sharing a man, knowingly or unknowingly.

http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/29/sex-deficit-bad-for-japans-bottom-line/

Also, there are more men than women in general globally.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/un-report-men-outnumber-women-globally/133485-19.html

ED: Missed a word EDIT: If you look at this chart, you'll see that the percent men never married is persistently quite a bit higher than the percent women never married. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0763219.html

[–]silvestrov 10 points11 points ago*

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Uh, it says on the article you posted that about 61% of unmarried adult men don’t have a girlfriend, while half the adult women surveyed don’t have a husband or a boyfriend. P("¬Having a girlfriend" | "Being an unmarried adult man") and P("Being an unmarried woman" OR "Being a woman without a boyfriend") (I assumed an inclusive disjunction) are two distinct concepts.

Edit: Also, we're missing quite a lot of information, beginning with the sample size and the percentage of married people of each gender, to conjecture on the prevalence of cheating/polyamorous relationships.

[–]Smacktastic 5 points6 points ago*

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That first part was worded incorrectly on the part of CNN. Here's a better translation "Dating: Singles have no (romantic) association with the opposite gender. 61% Men. 50% Women.". Here's the actual study:

http://www.ipss.go.jp/ps-doukou/j/doukou14_s/doukou14_s.asp

You make a good point though. That study is also highly specific demographic in particular. Still, the disparity apparent among multiple surveys and studies, personal observation, and human nature lead me to believe that there may actually be something to the idea that a larger number of women are dating a smaller number of men.

-ed for spelling

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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Is there rampant polygamy that I'm unaware of?

Yes.

[–]Tor_Coolguy 1 point2 points ago

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They jump around until they become old enough that they have to settle.

[–]zlo2 12 points13 points ago

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But hey, we can pee standing up. That's pretty great.

[–]act1v1s1nl0v3r 61 points62 points ago

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redditor

No, it wasn't a redditor. It was from /r9k/ on 4chan. There are more websites than just reddit.

[–]dfrehil 8 points9 points ago

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Sad that things like this are what /r9k/ is remembered for and not the better stuff that happened before all the ronery.

[–]MedievalKnieval 9 points10 points ago

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Human?

You're FUCKED!

[–]allenizabeth 57 points58 points ago

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Some people find comfort in believing the world is against them no matter what they do. It removes all sense of responsibility.

[–]peppi123 125 points126 points ago

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The biggest WTF of this was the comments.

[–]right_is_wrong 13 points14 points ago

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agreed

[–]springboks 1 point2 points ago

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There's nothing like a gaggle of insecure redditors adding their two cents is there? I love how the women have to first state they are women and then mention they are ugly women. If someone ever mentioned they were a redditor in real life, I've trained myself to say "what's reddit?"

[–]Zinxhetan 98 points99 points ago

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I think raped to death in prison, is my personal favorite!

[–]SolInvictus[S] 22 points23 points ago

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I lost it and started laughing at that point.

[–]tllnbks 39 points40 points ago

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But sadly, it's true. Men who are convicted of rape are usually severely beaten in the prison system...even if they are innocent. Or if he was 19 and she was 16.

[–]AriBBCP 13 points14 points ago

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dm;hs?

[–]Cadvin 21 points22 points ago

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Repeatedly. In prison.

[–]AriBBCP 11 points12 points ago

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still counts

[–]acolossalbear 19 points20 points ago

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Yeah, because rape jokes are funny as long as they're at the expense of men.

[–]jasmaree 11 points12 points ago

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I'm pretty sure there are tons of rape jokes about women on reddit. Pretty much at least one in every thread that has a picture of a girl.

[–]dizzyizzie 20 points21 points ago

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"Your country has conscription" =/= "men defend you for free" In my home country women and men have to serve in the military.

[–]Tor_Coolguy 7 points8 points ago

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In wartime would the women actually be on the front lines or would they be support? Not being snarky, sincere question.

[–]dizzyizzie 10 points11 points ago

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I'm from Israel. There are a couple combat units that are not mixed gender, but for the most part it's both genders. I don't know specifically about war conditions, though.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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Australia is on its way to making the front-line equal opportunity, despite some opposition from the military itself.

[–]Roflpumpkin 25 points26 points ago

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I think this might have been made by a dude... don't ask me how I know, I just do.

[–]I_Wont_Draw_That 63 points64 points ago

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Funny how the women's side of the chart is supposed to show how women have it easy, but really shows how they are patronized and looked down on..

[–]WildZubat 53 points54 points ago*

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Yeah, so many of these things aren't actually advantages, if you're a woman.

Being expected to be boring? Ouch.

"Quiet: You just have to look good". That's not empowering or a privilege, it reduces your worth as a human being to your appearance.

It's expected that you won't be in the mood for sex. If you do want a lot of sex people call you a slut.

Throw a tantrum: "Just use 'women are more emotional'". That's just a stereotype and when people believe it they never take you seriously or listen to your arguments, they just throw "you're being emotional" in your face the second you lose a little patience.

You are homosexual or bi: Guys still think you're really hot; how does that help a homosexual woman?

Plus some of those things are downright untrue.

Rape victims might get sympathy from some people, but they are also called liars, told it was their own fault because they weren't careful, asked for details so people can judge if they were 'asking for it' and mocked and constantly reminded in every way possible including in casual rape jokes.

And if they're a girl who likes nerdy things they aren't surrounded by admirers, they're labelled a girl gamer attention whore who probably has no real skill / is too ugly for rl so she has to have hobbies / isn't a 'real nerd', guys rage about how annoying she is, are jealous and bitter towards her, etc. etc.

"It's expected and encouraged for a woman to orgasm as fast and as much as possible": except not all women can experience orgasm, much less multiple times.

Whoever made this puts a lot of 'expectations' on women that aren't advantages at all, they're degrading. He expects them to be boring, over emotional, unskilled at work. He thinks being overly sexualized and objectified at school / workplace/ hobbies is somehow lucky or helpful. I just gotta stop.

[–]Siofsi 26 points27 points ago

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Throw a tantrum: "Just use 'women are more emotional'". That's just a stereotype and when people believe it they never take you seriously or listen to your arguments, they just throw "you're being emotional" in your face the second you lose a little patience.

It also completely dismisses whatever you're feeling upset about, so that the focus is solely on what a "brat" you are and it shows how valuable your feelings are. You get dismissed and shamed. Hurts a lot.

Crying about feeling bad because of the way you're being treated? Must be on the blob. Silly irrational girls.

[–]mimpatcha 1 point2 points ago

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I wanted to upvote you twice, one for your points, and the other for your amazing username. You decide which my upvote went to

[–]Blindfirekiller 6 points7 points ago

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There's a social stigma against male masturbation? O.o

fapfapfapfap

[–]Spletch 235 points236 points ago

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I'm a little surprised how readily everyone seems to be agreeing with this whole chart. There are a lot of problems with it.

The problem with a lot of these points is that they're written about a certain type of woman.

I'm female. Most of these don't apply to me. Why? I'm not attractive or confident. For a lot of these points, this isn't a chart comparing men and women. It's a chart comparing average men with women that the creator of the chart is attracted to. The reason it doesn't apply to me is because FAT GIRLS DON'T COUNT. Or ugly girls. Who would want to date an ugly girl? Gross.

Once you realize the sampling bias, you'll start to notice a lot of places this comparison falls short.

[–]division_by_infinity 115 points116 points ago

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Yeah, many of the supposed advantages for women there rely on 'just be attractive'. What if you're not? I guess you're FUCKED.

[–]whasittoya 59 points60 points ago

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He also seems to assume that an attractive man will not have advantages as well.

[–]chopschops 30 points31 points ago

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You're right. Attractive and rich people do have life easier. This chart is comparing the average male to an attractive female, and thus they will always come to the conclusion that life for the female is easier. I suspect if you compared the average male and average female it would be extremely similar.

[–]Peripheryy 2 points3 points ago

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This would only be true if you were comparing a very below average female to an average male. Try finding an average looking girl that doesn't have at least a few men interested in her.

[–]774mby 18 points19 points ago

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Closer to the truth - but most of those assumptions are proved wrong with multiple studies. For one, no-fault divorces substantially lowered the % of divorcees that receive alimony. This is problematic for women because (although the U.S. likes to feign gender equality...) a man's standard of living increases 42% after divorce, while a woman's falls 73%. Especially troubling considering the mom usually has custody of any children. And since a 'motherhood' penalty still exists in the job market for women (fathers actually make more than non-fathers) its more difficult for them to attain employment, have fair wages, and be promoted after having a child.

tl;dr: read some scholarly research, it'll show that 'all things being equal' (i.e. attractiveness, social status) men still have it easier than women.

[–]Cecil077 26 points27 points ago

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Actually the 73/42 statistic, as a little bit of googling will tell you, has been proven to be pretty much BS as the researcher screwed up the calculations and other researchers found flaws in the studies' analysis. I'd suggest you update your scholarly research on this topic.

[–]AlphaEnder 6 points7 points ago

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The increase is because he no longer needs to buy out Costco's supply of toilet paper.

The decrease is because all of a sudden there's no money for the shoe closet anymore.

I'm joking. But seriously, having been in a long term relationship and then getting back out, I can tell you my standard of living changed significantly for the better after the break up. I can't say by what percentage, and kids didn't come into the equation, so I have no clue there, but I also know that her standard of living dropped.

IT HAPPENED TO ME, THEREFORE IT MUST HAPPEN TO EVERYONE.

[–]lowrads 33 points34 points ago

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As you get older, you don't classify people into ugly and pretty as much.

It becomes healthy and unhealthy.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points ago

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When I was <25 I would have thought this was bullshit. I now understand.

[–]GovernmentMan 9 points10 points ago

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so true...

[–]heyktgirl 13 points14 points ago

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I'm so sorry about these assholes using your comment about gender roles to argue about why you may or may not be fat/unhealthy. Kind of proving a point, isn't it?

[–]somethingxfancy 8 points9 points ago

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This devolved from a discussion about sex roles to a four-way diatribe about losing weight. Fuck you, Reddit.

[–]bohemianmichfestie 9 points10 points ago

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You have ovaries for saying this, and by ovaries I mean because ovaries should be considered a source of braveness as well. You make a good point.

I agree about the prevalent male bias towards attractiveness. However, as a lesbian, though it might not be a comfort to your dilemma with men; I find you attractive for your spirit in this post, and that doesn't require a visual representation. You are admired. :-)

[–]Da_Dude_Abides 2 points3 points ago

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Yea as someone who is interested in male gender roles I don't like this chart either because it poisons the well. There are some major points I would consider valid generalizations but most of them don't capture both sides of the story or are too particular.

[–]c_megalodon 9 points10 points ago

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Also, there are women who face slut-blaming just because she dresses a little revealing/goes on dates, gets called a whore when she gets raped, etc. Sorry, but in some countries a woman is punished when she gets raped while her rapists gets away with it. The chart is fucked up. Both genders face problems and they differ depends on your culture/environment/physical appearances/etc.

[–]ThereIsAThingForThat 4 points5 points ago

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Sorry, but in some countries a woman is punished when she gets raped while her rapists gets away with it.

[Oh, like in the US?](www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2008/08/16/janecrane.ART_ART_08-16-08_B1_T0B1RSR.html) Please don't say Statuatory Rape and Rape is not the same thing.

[–]c_megalodon 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah, sadly it happens even in developed countries. Then you go to places like the middle east where if you're a women who was raped you have the choice to marry your rapist and risk being killed by your own family because you brought shame.

[–]pablo78 1 point2 points ago

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I think using the phrase "sampling bias" makes you attractive.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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There were people in here agreeing with this? Dear god...

[–]DaysSpentDreaming 5 points6 points ago

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Sorry, but being a girl sucks. All the guys with a great job or have good looks or have ANYTHING going for them that's listed tend to become arrogant assholes. That's a sweeping generalization, I know, but being a pretty girl with smarts... I'd prefer my guy to have some hang ups because he may be more down to earth and appreciate my company more than a sports fan, dude always at the gym, or whatever. Give me a guy that doesn't like sports and prefers staying, playing video games or board games, some sex... Let's stay in!

Tl;dr, I'd prefer a redditor.

[–]McHurtikus 29 points30 points ago

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damn dude, how bad was that break up?

[–]ModernAlias 22 points23 points ago

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Where's the rest of this thing? It used to switch in the middle to stuff like Male: Are you fat? Be Witty! Female? You're fucked! And so on. Who's the bullshit loser who broke it? It was actually kinda funny before.

[–]Tor_Coolguy 2 points3 points ago

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Most fat guys are pretty fucked when it comes to relationships, despite what sitcoms might have to say on the matter.

[–]SpecialKRJ 1 point2 points ago

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lolnope. but fat girls are disgusting and don't take any pride in themselves.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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If the guy had genuine understanding of society, he wouldn't have made this chart in the first place.

[–]shitterplug 35 points36 points ago

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And I am glad I have to deal with being a man, as long as I can find solace in the fact that I will never have a period.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points ago

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I could arrange it so you bled on a monthly basis if you like

[–]Niyeaux 2 points3 points ago

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Relevant username.

[–]nina00i 1 point2 points ago

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Guys don't understand! You never get used to the feeling of hot, slimy blood clots leaking out from between your legs into a damp, smelly pad. And that pad stays there for hours.

Enjoy that image.

[–]zacmartin 6 points7 points ago

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[–]armedburrito 3 points4 points ago

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Obviously many of these go both ways. The one I disagree with staunchly, and think that men have the upper hand is the attractiveness comment.

If a woman is unattractive, she's pretty fucked (or not fucked, as the case may be). If a dude is unattractive, it doesn't really matter that much, because, in America, a man's worth is more defined by his hobbies and bank account, than his looks.

Seriously, you hardly ever see an ugly chick with a successful guy, but there are ugly dudes with hot wives all over the place.

[–]IAMGodAMA 42 points43 points ago

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"You aren't attractive" "Someone will settle for you" vs "you're fucked"

Greatest falsehood I've seen all day.

[–]BROTALITY 16 points17 points ago*

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forced to wear a bland shirt + pants to work, or a suit

DAMNIT I CANT GO TO MY OFFICE IN MY LUCKY STAR TEESHIRT AND NO PANTS FUCKING SEXISM IM SUCH A NICE GUY WHY CANT MY EMPLOYERS SEE THAT

oh well. a fursuit is still a suit!!!!

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I can see him now, walking through his bedroom door, the head of his fursuit clenched in his fist with white-knuckled rage after being fired on the spot. He slams the door, pulls his paw/gloves off his still-shaking hands, and opens MS Paint.

[–]BROTALITY 1 point2 points ago

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[–]MissErnst 15 points16 points ago

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Well I'm going to get my bitch on here; "doesn't go to the gym" Not expected?! "bad in bed" just lie back?!

Fuck That and Fuck You.

[–]DrZealot 15 points16 points ago

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Dr Zealot's guide to overcoming modern man bullshit:

No confidence: Who cares what other people think?

No money: She'll pay.

No college plans: You're a dumbass or a genius, male or female.

No friends: Get a hobby son. Go dancing.

Boring: Why are you wasting your life doing things you hate?

Obscure interests: Makes you more attractive.

Quiet: Make up for it in facial expressions. 90% of all communication is without voice anyway.

Rejects a member of the opposite sex: She obviously didn't meet your requirements.

Expects sex as part of a relationship: You're a stud and you know what you want.

Not in the mood for sex: Long day at work, sick, or tired. Duh.

Bad in bed: Just lie back. Oh, you can't ride a dick? Fuck you bitch.

Raped and needs help: Tons of support groups. Also, there's hot chicks there who need a good, clean, honest fucking. Get your mind right then enjoy the free sex.

Want to end your current marriage: Get married in name only, don't get the sign a certificate. Works even for Christians, since marriage is supposed to be a union of two people under god. Why is the government in your marriage anyway? It's about you and her.

Shitty, low end job with no career prospects: All you have to do is be good looking.

Owns guns: Prepared. Knowledgable. Safe.

Don't want an expensive wedding: Financially savvy.

Don't play sports / gym: Working out is part of life. Find a way that suits your personality. Geek? Play DDR or Dance Central.

Your country has conscription: You're fucked. Agreed.

You think the world is biased against your gender: Millions of men around the world agree with you.

You aren't physically capable of the work: Maybe you're smarter, then?

You aren't attractive: It's easier for guys to exercise and get big muscles than it is for girls to get big boobs and ass.

Had sex with an underaged member of the opposite sex: Slap on the wrist, especially if you're handsome / rich.

Throw an emotional tantrum to try to get your way: You're an emotional guy and you need a way to express yourself.

Hit your spouse during an argument: Violence is not the answer (also, the bitch deserved it.)

Expect gifts during valentine's day and other holidays: A man needs a woman who knows what he wants.

Wants to feel as much pleasure as possible during sex: Girls should want to swallow your cum and be happy they were able to fuck you.

You can't cook and don't want to do the housework: Orderly house, orderly mind. Also, throwing stuff into piles is efficient.

You are into "weird" hobbies: Find other girls in those hobbies. You're a nerd-baller.

You want to wait till marriage for sex: You have strong principles you believe in.

You are homosexual or bi: Girls think you're really hot.

Want a wide variety of clothing and fashion styles: Near infinite choices.

Enjoy masturbation: It's everyone's dirty secret.

Feel horny, want to get a one night stand: Go to the nearest bar/club/etc, ask a girl to buy YOU a drink. Fuck.

Dump your current partner: She was a bitch anyway.

Crying and being emotion: Men will rush to comfort you.

Have a particular sexual fetish: That's soooo hot!

[–]pimpofpixels 3 points4 points ago

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Token 4chan combination of anger and sadness.

[–]sapere8aude 60 points61 points ago

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Because sometimes misogyny is the easy way out...

[–]Bubblebath_expert 7 points8 points ago

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Redditor? This chart is probably older than reddit and was made by more than one person (it originally stopped after the first set of "you're fucked", see that the lines change thickness). My bet is on 4chan /r9k/.

[–]TubePincher 228 points229 points ago

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Points out that men who aren't consistently alpha are considered worthless by society: has chip on his shoulder.

[–]mycroft2000 26 points27 points ago

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Don't make generalizations about "society." I'm definitely a beta male, but I've never been made to feel worthless. In fact, I've found traditional alpha types to be mocked a lot more than betas around these parts. That said, I'm glad I'm an urban Canadian as opposed to a rural or suburban American.

[–]TubePincher 15 points16 points ago

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Everyone in Canada is nice.

[–]Dved 7 points8 points ago

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Exactly. Canadians don't have these weird american fixations on wealth/height/race/whatever.

[–]Nickolo3 2 points3 points ago

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Not like those fat, short, rich, white Americans! Go Canada!

[–]imeanareyouforreal 17 points18 points ago

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Points out? I have yet to see any examples of any of these in my life. Am I sheltered, or alpha, or what? Or do I just blame myself instead of the environment I'm in and actually attempt to fix what problems I see?

Maybe I should give up and make a chart instead, that seems effective.

[–]Dr_fish 2 points3 points ago

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I for one never agree with anything unless it is expressed in the form of a chart.

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[–]allenizabeth 52 points53 points ago

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All you need as a man to be worthy in society is one positive aspect. Smart or successful or funny or talented, whatever. One. If you're a woman you can have all of them but still be considered worthless if you're not beautiful.

[–]AllNamesAreGone 56 points57 points ago

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If that's how your life seems, then you are around the wrong people. There's a spectrum of shallowness, and both OP's image and your example are on the extreme end of things.

[–]I_RAPE_PEOPLE_II 13 points14 points ago

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All you need as a man to be worthy is one positive aspect. Smart or successful or funny or talented.

This is the most shallow thing I've ever read...jesus fucking christ.

[–]shoblime 5 points6 points ago

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The point of being smart or funny or talented is to become successful: that is have enough money and resources to attend to the needs of yourself and your family. Those are all just means to an end...

[–]imeanareyouforreal 25 points26 points ago

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yeah! Condaleezza Rice is worthless! Sarah Vowell too! fuck Sandra Bernhard!

[–]allenizabeth 18 points19 points ago

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Yeah but EVERY man who isn't consistently alpha is worthless, right? Like Stephen Hawking? Or Abraham Lincoln - hell, many of our Presidents? How about Darwin, he was a real bro.

[–]happybadger 27 points28 points ago

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Like Stephen Hawking?

You know why Stephen Hawking is in that wheelchair? It's to restrain him. He's so alpha that if they didn't keep him secured he would impregnate every woman on the planet using theoretical physics. And Abraham Lincoln's bones are ground up and injected in FtM gender reassignment surgeries.

[–]allenizabeth 3 points4 points ago

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I stand corrected.

[–]hlast99 39 points40 points ago

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Abraham Lincoln was like 800 feet tall and probably had a three foot dick. Darwin had a beard that made Greek gods jealous. Both alpha as fuck. I'd stick to the Hawking example.

[–]the_cheese 5 points6 points ago

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[–]loumerloni 18 points19 points ago

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Stephen Hawking has more genius in his smegma than most people have in their whole bodies. How is that not alpha? US presidents are leaders of the free world.

TL;DR Your examples really suck.

[–]pururin 1 point2 points ago

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Yeeeaaah... Agreed with you till the "free world" part. Thanks for the laugh.

[–]canolicat 7 points8 points ago

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Huh. I always thought Condoleezza Rice was extremely pretty. She had a very elegant air about her.

[–]Smacktastic 1 point2 points ago

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I refute this with Margaret Thatcher, Indra Nooyi, Irene Rosenfield, Oprah, Sandra Bernhard, Margeret Cho, and so on.

[–]GinandJuice 9 points10 points ago*

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This diagram explains my extreme conservatism around people I don't know. Though some of said diagram is really neckbeardy.

[–]Shurikane 1 point2 points ago

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Oh my god, the chart is a self-fulfilling prophecy!!

[–]brevityis 1 point2 points ago

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I've never understood the whole 'alpha' and 'beta' thing as used by r/seduction, etc.

Sure, the alpha male wolf leads the pack. But the beta is second in command. Why is that a bad thing to be? Both take mates, both are high in status.

I feel like whenever people say "don't be such a beta," they should really be saying "don't be such an omega," because that's technically the lowest level for the adult wolves, and that's what they imply you are if you aren't 'alpha.'

[–]dumase 6 points7 points ago

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I thought this started off with some good (albeit, I think, pretty obvious) points, if taken generally. But it very quickly tapered off from that after the first 6 or so points, into just random misogynist ranting from someone that clearly has very little life experience beyond those first few comparisons.

[–]LymeyBastard 8 points9 points ago

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How many times do you think this has been xposted in r/mensrights.

They're probably circlejerking so hard right now.

[–]venusmantrap 7 points8 points ago

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"raped and needs help: tons of support groups and everyone is sympathetic"..?? Yeah right. How about the good ol' "she was asking for it" that so many women receive as victims of rape??

[–]B_For_Bandana 16 points17 points ago

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I bet you could do one of these for women no problem. Things are tough all over.

[–]heyktgirl 10 points11 points ago

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We have a painful, exhausting, and sometimes debilitating period for 5 days every three weeks and if we don't we have to push a baby out of our body after 9 months. We can't go out anywhere without having to worry about some creep kidnapping/raping/murdering us for fun. We're shunned from our peers if they decide we are sleeping around too much and we are teased for liking things that aren't makeup or celebrity gossip or hot boys. If you are deemed ugly by your peers you will not get a boyfriend and could be used by boys as a toy to laugh at with their bros later.

Ok, I'll stop now. My point is, you are right. Another point is boys that do this kind of shit don't have girls because they think that way. Every gender has a role in this society and sometimes it sucks. Get over it, make yourself better, and find someone who loves you regardless of what sitcoms say.

[–]Dsilkotch 14 points15 points ago

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[–]Gonterf 20 points21 points ago

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Gotta agree with this - not only is the sampling biased, but the questions are too. Put the author of the OP's table in a girl's body for a day, and he'll quickly realize just how wrong he is.

I'm a transwoman - I used to think guys got the short end of the stick until I transitioned... now as a woman I'll literally have people tell me 'sorry we can't give you a job you don't have the looks for it', or I'll have guys ignore me in a conversation like nothing I say matters.

[–]geerad 2 points3 points ago

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This list is in many ways just as bad (though not as angry).

[–]RMcD94 1 point2 points ago

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A ton of these are choices. I mean a different perspective is always good but this list kind of pales in comparison to the other one. There are choices in the other one too don't get me wrong but the other list is more like "People react like this when you do X", whereas this is just "You can do X, or you don't have to really"

Just going off a really general look: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 10, 13, 16, 19, 20, 23, 26, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45.

Seriously, this fucking list is more like THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS WOMEN HAVE WRONG, than what's good about a guy. It feels like there's a girl who doesn't like stereotypical women than a guy wrote that. I let it pass on stupid stereotypes like guys can open jars and woman can't and all guys are mechanics and girls aren't, but still look at the fucking list I got.

[–]SickotheKid 2 points3 points ago

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A chip on his shoulder/ is a big wimp.

[–]TheTTCyclist 2 points3 points ago

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Amen.

[–]tadmau5 2 points3 points ago

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Word

[–]arbiterxero 19 points20 points ago

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First of all, when I cum, it's RIGHT ON TIME. I don't care if she doesn't go first...

I'm a speed fucker. I mean what were you trying to do? Cum? well I beat you.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points ago

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The way I see it, it's a race to the finish, and I always win!

[–]Whitefox1602 6 points7 points ago

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Aaaand now for the dismount!

[–]bohemianmichfestie 1 point2 points ago

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Now, I'm not straight so I don't fully understand straight women but I can't help but assume that this issue in straight sex stems from the idea that the guy is easier to turn on than the woman. Does this mean the man is lacking in performance or looks or some other aspect? Who knows. Selfishness aside, whether you cum or not, if your partner has any say in your reputation, you will be known as "failure."

[–]Klowned 1 point2 points ago

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In most guys, once they come they have a "refractory period" {No erection for some time after orgams; you can practice past this or medicate for it} which has been described as "too sensitive to touch". I notice, because I've heard of girls teasing a guy after orgasm by clenching her pelvic muscle before sliding off just see him shudder.

There are some serious discrepancies in the average time to achieve orgasm for both genders, men taking a lot less time than women. Which is why foreplay is so important in female-involved sex. Women could fuck until they were physically exhausted, like marathon tired, the average man can't get it back up for a while and just wants to do something else. A good{Fair} man will get that tongue to working if he finishes before she does.

[–]littlemissdangerous 98 points99 points ago

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It IS kind of odd that someone made a whole diagram about it, and it seems really anal and bitter... but he does have some points there...

[–]sohighrightmeow 41 points42 points ago

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not if you replace the "female" side with "ugly female". Then it's pretty much the same as the male side.

[–]littlemissdangerous 12 points13 points ago

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You're absolutely correct.

[–]sohighrightmeow 5 points6 points ago

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well then I guess I'm changing my downvote to an upvote, yay agreement!

[–]littlemissdangerous 2 points3 points ago

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Yay common ground! Thanks!

[–]DrDWayneLove 30 points31 points ago

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I read the first few and thought "Oh this isn't so bad, it's pretty hyperbolic, but it's funny and makes an ok point." Then I read past the first five or six and realised that man is probably a killer.

[–]deathdive 83 points84 points ago*

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Have a woman make that chart again or simply an emotionally secure guy, or have her add another 100 points.

Most of the Reddit emotional complaints by guys could be solved by patience, a bit of willpower and foresight.

[–]sicinfit 4 points5 points ago

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The Axis of quintessential attributes that impedes natural selection in the social sense.

[–]Democritus477 3 points4 points ago

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Of course. I mean, I'm sure the stuff on both sides really happens every now and then. The error is believing that it's representative of people's experiences in general; I'm sure if you were sufficiently motivated you could create an equally true chart that made exactly the opposite point.

[–]kitschbitch 5 points6 points ago

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Whew! Good thing all of humanity is heterosexual!

[–]Ihazaclue 4 points5 points ago

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We are all special in our own fucking way, get over it. Just because you got an axe wound or a twig doesn't mean a damn thing, it is who you are but sadly, many a people are too superficial to realize this.

[–]Toothy_Mcveigh 4 points5 points ago

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Wow, I feel like he just told me way too much about himself.

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[–]2Deluxe 5 points6 points ago

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He should like, um, be more attractive in future.

[–]jesserrino 5 points6 points ago

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Personally, I'm really offended by the comment about gay women. Gay men find female friend groups when they are alienated from their gender, and they're welcomed. I can either be the fantasy of creepy men and retain friends in my gender, or be alienated completely because men don't want to be friends with butch girls.

Overgeneralizations, I know. This is just me speaking from my experiences. Men don't want to befriend me unless they're interested in me sexually.

:C

[–]police_fruitality 29 points30 points ago

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The redditor that made this chart is probably gay, impotent, a pervert, a rapist, a pussy, a loser, a nerd, is poor, and is most likely FUCKED.

[–]Penguin_Dreams 70 points71 points ago

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Naw, he's just a "nice guy".

[–]DrDWayneLove 16 points17 points ago

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I doubt he's gay. Just painfully mysogonistic.

[–]ClothedinLight 4 points5 points ago

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Anyone denying the fact that there is some truth to this is lying to themselves.

On the contrary, anyone declaring every point to be a fact is also lying to themselves.

I'm ClothedinLight and I'm not ashamed to admit I'm a neutralist.

[–]herebezombies 14 points15 points ago

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click wall of bullshit close

[–]King_of_Beets 5 points6 points ago

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I had to stop reading this cause i was "fucked" too many times....

[–]somnambulator 19 points20 points ago

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Pissed off? Sure.

But society has fostered most of those stereotypes, and they all exist to a large enough extent to impact a lot of guys.

[–]EspejoHumeante 2 points3 points ago

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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Someone should tell this guy that the quality of life for men usually goes up after divorce. It goes down for women.

source

[–]abbycadabra 5 points6 points ago

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Nah bro, it's thieving harpies taking all of the menz money.

(Because as we all know, property acquired during a marriage actually all belongs to the man. The woman is just there as an unpaid servant).

[–]Leonashanana 13 points14 points ago

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[–]whatismore 1 point2 points ago

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what a cute redditor we've got here...

[–]Unomagan 1 point2 points ago

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Last line: Thinking this is true: No problem; You are FUCKED

[–]AlwaysAnOptimist 1 point2 points ago

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I'm still glad to be a man

[–]apple_2 1 point2 points ago

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I would rather be a dude cause of one thing.. You dont have to push a baby out the vag!

[–]funetical 1 point2 points ago

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I also like the ability to lift heavy things, get paid more and not have to bleed from my genitals.

There's more... there's always more.

[–]Lihiro 1 point2 points ago

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My soul.

My soul bleeds. ಠ_ಠ

[–]jeffgoldblumftw 1 point2 points ago

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Want some salsa for that chip on your shoulder?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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I need to learn this "international signal of woman looking for drink." Where has that been all these years??

[–]Micfly213 1 point2 points ago

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Tell this to a woman: You're Fucked.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Poor men, they are so oppressed by our matriarchal society...

[–]SillyCeleste 1 point2 points ago

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Someone obviously needs to get laid.. but with an attitude about women like this I'm not surprised.. not all women are like that..

[–]docious 1 point2 points ago

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My favorite part about this is and jokes like this is how revealing it is for the person who created. Kind of like when the first person to answer a question in class is the dumb kid who hasn't realize he is dumb yet.. but everybody else just found out due to his or her answer.

[–]ghostfacechillah 1 point2 points ago

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I love how all the SAPs out there put women on a fucking pedestal. I would reject women for a lot of the things on that list.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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I love women, but a lot of these items check out in my personal observations and experience. He's bitter, but he has some points along with his issues.

[–]Paddington_J_Wiggles 1 point2 points ago

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The underlying agenda here seems to be men's rights. However, most of the inequities complained of here are perpetrated by an overly patriachal society that unsympathetically forces both men and women toward gender stereotypes. Except for a few of the concepts, this could almost be a feminist post.

[–]Acora 1 point2 points ago

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A lot of the stuff he says is kind of true. Not to the extreme that he says, and not in the majority of cases, but women don't have as hard of a time in the civilized world as many people seem to think.