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[–]laursters 195 points196 points ago

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I was kind of hoping this was just going to be a really intense picture of someone's abdominals.

[–]iaccidentlytheworld 55 points56 points ago

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I watched it all the way through.

[–][deleted] 80 points81 points ago

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you must be trying to study for finals.....I am :(

[–]iaccidentlytheworld 43 points44 points ago

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You're absolutely correct.

[–]bseymour42 1 point2 points ago

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And to think...some people seek this stuff out because they love it.

[–]ZergBuildOrder 10 points11 points ago

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[–]scrappster 14 points15 points ago

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Good God I love the Internet.

[–]Semen-Thrower 4 points5 points ago

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Oh god yes. It's so disturbingly adorable

[–]blazzinasian 2 points3 points ago

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Man, attempting to pull an all nighter with the little amount of sleep I have, makes watching this video very trippy for some reason.

[–]onewerd 2 points3 points ago

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DAMNIT! I check out what's happening at Reddit one freaking time before starting my research paper and BAM! An hour later, I know everything about "Avast your Ass", but not a damn thing about field programmable gate arrays.

[–]TheRise9 8 points9 points ago

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I logged in specifically to upvote, comment that you deserve more reddit recognition, and simultaneously explain that you may have actually found the best video on the internet.

[–]Hesitris 11 points12 points ago

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I have to disagree with that last bit. I'm guessing you didn't know that this is very much a thing on Youtube. Many songs (Avast Your Ass, in this case) have been remixed using sound bits from popular shows, commercials, movies, etc.

Example A, from Intensive Care Unit.

Ninja edit: The example I just gave thus far my favorite of the genre.

[–]snoutysnout 5 points6 points ago

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this bit scared the crap out of me!

[–]chollenb 1 point2 points ago

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You should post this in r/trees and title it something along the lines of "Terry Crew's Singing Abs, watch at a [4]+" I almost cried from laughing so hard.

[–]laursters 1 point2 points ago

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I think that was simultaneously the most disturbing and awesome thing I have seen all day.

[–]drockers 1 point2 points ago

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you are doing gods work son.

[–]neyvit 50 points51 points ago

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These are pretty intense. (And by intense, I mean disgustingly fake implants)

[–]short_life 37 points38 points ago

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What in the name of...

[–]JediExile 97 points98 points ago

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Zoidberg.

[–]zenthor109 34 points35 points ago

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why not?

[–]onesweet 31 points32 points ago

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(V)(;,;)(V)

[–]Aloren 7 points8 points ago

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I dont.. I cant even... why? ._.

[–]jettrscga 19 points20 points ago

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That's a thing? I didn't know that was a thing.

[–]soflyguy 1 point2 points ago

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he used one of those get abbs quick programs that the advertise on youtube. OBVIOUSLY.

[–]JustAWeinerDog 9 points10 points ago

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I didn't know you could get fake abs.

To the rhinoplaster!

[–]jezmck 11 points12 points ago

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They do noses. The clue's in the name.

[–]uptwolait 5 points6 points ago

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To the aboplaster!

[–]LORDJEW_VAN_CUNTFUCK 23 points24 points ago

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Now that you mention it, I find it weird that I read the title as "A - B - S" instead of "abs" considering I had no clue what A.B.S stood for...

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points ago

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Because it's capitalized.

[–]kpluto 3 points4 points ago

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idk either

this is what I found:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=A.B.S.

[–]Wimblestill 5 points6 points ago

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I think this is what it's supposed to be about actually.

[–]JulianDestroya 4 points5 points ago

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Same here.

[–]Oatybar 1 point2 points ago

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[–]wazzaa4u 1 point2 points ago

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came here for the abs, was slightly disappointed

[–]HarmsCore 277 points278 points ago

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Very informative. This picture will probably help someone.

[–]caraficionado24[S] 148 points149 points ago

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You know, I bet it will. There are way too many people that have no idea what ABS even stands for, much less what it does.

[–]HarmsCore 111 points112 points ago

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The look on peoples face when they feel ABS kick in on an icy road is hilarious, until you hit something then it becomes priceless.

[–]caraficionado24[S] 93 points94 points ago

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It's like the pedal's vibrations are telling them to release the brake(no pun) because it broke, so they do and lose control. Plus, it doesn't help that automakers sell ABS and Traction Control as an invincibility cloak to collisions.

[–]sirberus 171 points172 points ago

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Explain ABS to me as if I were a 5 year old.

[–]DocBrown1984 169 points170 points ago

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Anti-lock brake system. It prevents your brakes from locking your wheels when you slam on the brakes, slowing your car instead of sending you into an out of control skid.

[–][deleted] 77 points78 points ago*

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It also gives you a chance to steer in a certain direction, rather than straight into that large telegraph pole in front of you.

EDIT: Apparently I said something wrong, I googled telegraph pole just then, and it IS what I thought it was... So please elaborate?

[–]TheeCandyMan 183 points184 points ago

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.. / .... .- - . / .. - / .-- .... . -. / - .... .- - / .... .- .--. .--. . -. ... / -... . -.-. .- ..- ... . / - .... . -. / .. / -.-. .- -. - / .--. --- ... - / - --- / .-. . -.. -.. .. - / ... - --- .--.

[–]shakensparco 158 points159 points ago

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"I hate it when that happens because then i cant post to reddit stop"

[–]biga29 101 points102 points ago

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I'm trusting you.

[–]lacheur42 25 points26 points ago

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On behalf of lazy redditors everywhere, thank you.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points ago

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The Titanic's final transmission...

[–]Feneer 6 points7 points ago

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Stop being dicks people, in the UK telegraph pole is still a common name for the large wooden poles carrying BT's wires through the country, this man is entirely correct in it's use.

[–]DoesntUnderstandJoke 12 points13 points ago

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I think you mean telegram pole.

[–]HelveticaBOLD 18 points19 points ago

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Pretty sure you mean hologram pole.

[–]AvgJoeSchmoe 15 points16 points ago

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No, that's what virtual hookers suck. Pretty sure you mean anagram pole.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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Do I? I just googled what a telegraph pole was, and from google images, it means what I think it means...

[–]dmanww 1 point2 points ago

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we don't have telegraph poles any more. They are utility poles

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Well, this is labelled, "Telegraph"

[–]RexBearcock 13 points14 points ago

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And it prevents them from locking by pulsing the brakes over a dozen times per second.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points ago*

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a common misconception is that ABS will slow you down faster than locking up your brakes in every situation. this isn't true in a lot of cases, but what it does do is allow you to retain your ability to steer while applying maximum breaking force. a wheel that is locked up and skidding is incapable of steering the car.

****EDITED for clarity and grammar. I've been celebrating the ratification of the 21st amendment this evening.

[–]N0V0w3ls 19 points20 points ago

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Actually it IS true. It works using static friction vs kinetic friction.

[–][deleted] 54 points55 points ago*

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I know that in a lot of situations it is true, but if you read my comment in full you'll see I said that it isn't true for every situation. such as driving on a loose dirt or gravel road where locking up the brakes will dig you in to the ground and help you stop faster compared to an ABS stop on the same surface. ABS is almost universally not used on dirt/gravel rally courses for this very reason.

http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_offroad.html

[–]N0V0w3ls 21 points22 points ago

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You are right, I did misread you.

[–]throwaway19111 6 points7 points ago

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However, it doesn't work on surfaces where there is no grip and you'll be sliding no matter what. Examples: Deep snow, very loose surfaces, etc. You will find that the same applies for TCS as well in regards to your throttle.

They WILL cause you to get in an accident (well, TCS will just not let you move correctly...) and you should disable them if driving in said conditions.

ABS increases braking distances on low-traction surfaces such as the above mentioned ones.

[–]AfineGentleman 1 point2 points ago

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[–]ITripFatPpl 2 points3 points ago

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Actually static friction is a lot greater than sliding friction, so by releasing the tire for that split second then re-applying it you're working with a higher coefficient of friction and therefore more grip, although you're losing the breaking of the split second the abs releases the tire for. That's just what I know from physics, I'm not actually sure which one provides better breaking, but saying that there is a possibility it's abs (under the right conditions), although personally I think the non-abs does (just from personal experience, will vary and depend on abs system, surface, tires, car weight, car suspension and weight distribution, surface area, speed etc.)

[–]airwaybreathingcircu 9 points10 points ago

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Threshold braking is the best in the right condition- that is, the driver is knowledgeable and skilled to perform it. Not everyone including the ones that think they know how actually has the ability to perform threshold braking. Hence ABS is a idiot proof way to ensure everyone stays safe.

This is, of course, disregarding any special circumstances such as gravel, sand and deep powder snow road.

Think about it, no one ever practices threshold braking in any one of the road conditions. How does it make sense that they can do it under a very slippery conditions? ABS let's people live another day everyday.

[–]i_heart_boobs 9 points10 points ago

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ABS is literally performing threshold braking. It releases the braking pressure for only enough time for the wheel to regain traction (as detected by individual wheel speed sensors) and then reapplies. Also, it will only release braking pressure on the wheel that is locked, whereas if you try to perform threshold braking without ABS your foot will release pressure on ALL the wheels, including the ones with more than enough traction. (as conditions are not always identical under all four wheels) I highly doubt whether anybody can brake more efficiently without ABS assuming that having ABS or not is the only variable.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago*

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it's more dependent on the road surface. I've well aware static friction is greater than kinetic friction, but on a gravel or loose dirt road, locking up the breaks shifts the weight of the car forward and effectivly digs the car into the dirt. Rally racers almost always disable their ABS on dirt/gravel courses for this very reason.

[–]cdude 1 point2 points ago

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disable their brakes

are you serious?

[–]i_heart_boobs 1 point2 points ago

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Disagree. There is a point at which the pulsation of the ABS will become so frequent that the braking efficiency will be decreased to the point where locking the wheels becomes more efficient. This will (almost) never happen on sealed roads but if you are driving on wet grass for example (or on a rally track as this case may be) then it is more effective for the wheels to lock. Also due to the style of driving that rally driver exhibit, where more often than not they don't have full traction, driver aids such as ABS, VSC, and traction control are not of any assistance.

[–]ITripFatPpl 1 point2 points ago

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I don't think rally drivers ever had abs in the first place, on pavement they would just use threshold breaking, much more efficient.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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It prevents the wheels from locking which gives them momentary traction. In the past people pumped the breaks for this effect but ABS does it much faster, is more consistent making it predictable and does not require you to focus on pumping the pedal so you can focus on steering. This momentary gain in traction is what helps you steer while breaking.

[–]OralCulture 1 point2 points ago

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Don't make the mistake I did and get the cheaper Anti-brake locking system.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points ago*

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In cold regions where roads are often covered with ice, if you ever start skidding, in the old days you were told to pump the brake instead of slamming on it. You had a better chance of keeping control this way.

ABS is a built in system that detects when you slam on the brakes, and automatically pumps for you. You feel the vibrating sensation in the brakes and it freaks people out if they don't know what's going on.

I learned to drive in Canada during the winter, and my driving instructor required students to intentionally skid in an open space at least once as part of their lesson so they knew what ABS felt like.

[–]ratterbatter 22 points23 points ago

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here in north dakota, i have to slam on my brakes and use ABS at just about every intersection come winter. the ice is like... lubricated or something.

[–]snoogansomg 36 points37 points ago

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Or something...

[–]Rhakan 16 points17 points ago

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How about slowing down before you reach the intersection to avoid doing a panic stop every single time you hit a red light?

[–]InPerpetualZen 4 points5 points ago

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TIL I'm not the only person in ND on Reddit.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points ago

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TIL the ND population doubled since I last checked.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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just make sure you turn the light off.

[–]Rold-Gold 5 points6 points ago

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Could you try to explain what it feels like when you slam the breaks with ABS in your car? I know almost nothing about cars and my parents just gave me some random car and I took it, still not knowing anything about it. It has 4 wheels and drives me places and that's about all I know.

I vaguely remember my dad showing me that my car had this, but my memory sucks and I can't remember if that was in my car or one of theirs.

[–]tosss 20 points21 points ago

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It's a very rapid shudder or pulsing in the brake pedal.

[–]ididntstartthefire 5 points6 points ago

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So if I feel a rapid shudder in the brake pedal when ABS has engaged, wouldn't my first reaction be to release the brake, which could be dangerous?

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points ago

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Yeah. So don't.

[–]XZenogear 15 points16 points ago

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Yes, but you should have been schooled in how your car works. ABS has saved me at least twice driving on ice covered hills, I was able to maneuver out of the way of a fire hydrant and a telephone pole. People should also know that it takes traction to turn and traction to brake, so if you are doing both at the same time they are less effective.

[–]StudntDrivr 7 points8 points ago

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It certainly could be, but you shouldn't do that.

[–]Kminardo 7 points8 points ago

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I recommend all new drivers (and people driving cars with ABS that have never experienced it) to go to an empty parking lot, take it up to 25 or so and slam those brakes. That'll engage the ABS and you can see exactly what were talking about, it's tough to describe. Also if you're unsure if your car has ABS, this is a great way to find out :)

[–]pnettle 2 points3 points ago

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It shouldn't be? You need to stop, even if you think something broke/went wrong, the reason you're slamming the pedal isn't gone. If anything it should make you push it HARDER.

Its not logical to release it if you feel a studder.

[–]thekilljoy 10 points11 points ago

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The pedal itself (brake pedal) will start vibrating, and it's not a light, gentle thing, it's a "oh shit something broke" kind of vibration, you won't miss it and it has a "pulse" sensation (as if the pedal is moving a couple centimeters up and down under your foot) as it is happening.

It's very rare it comes on in any circumstance but one where you are braking very hard (exceptions being ice, gravel, dirt, but you'll be nervous about how hard you're hitting the brakes in those situations anyways), so, this isn't the sort of thing that will sneak up on you (usually). If you're aware of your ABS and that hard braking and braking on slick/gravelly surfaces are likely triggers, when it comes, you'll be a bit more prepared.

[–]Rold-Gold 9 points10 points ago

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Thanks for the answer. To be clear though, as I've found some of the other comments confusing, when it does kick in and you get that "oh shit something broke" feeling, you're supposed to keep slamming on the breaks right? The ABS takes care of pumping the breaks so you can just hold it down and everything will be fine(at least everything related to how you're breaking)?

[–]thekilljoy 11 points12 points ago

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That's exactly the concept. You keep applying steady, even pressure tot he brake and the brake will pump itself for you.

It's a bit difficult to get used to (hell, I hope you never experience it enough to get used to it; but some of us just don't have the luck, or live in places that beg for abs to rear its head often) but it has a lot of positives; once you learn to ignore the sensation, you can focus on corrective steering instead of brake pumping, and you can learn to brake hard without locking your knee (useful for inevitable front end collisions that might crush the front of the car, possibly causing knee injury that is exacerbated by leg locking)

[–]aterlumen 5 points6 points ago

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It's very rare it comes on in any circumstance

Come up to Minnesota eh?

[–]thekilljoy 3 points4 points ago

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It's very rare it comes on in any circumstance but one where you are braking very hard (exceptions being ice, gravel, dirt, but you'll be nervous about how hard you're hitting the brakes in those situations anyways)

Full context please; I used to live in the 4th snowiest city in the 'lower 48' (Syracuse, NY) I'm very aware of what a little cold and water will do to a road.

[–]Fvel 4 points5 points ago

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It feels like your brake pedal is vibrating really hard and fast. You'll find out on your own, trust me. I decided to move into a steep canyon high in the Rockys with several low valleys on the side, so it would always drop yards of snow during the winter. Learned the hard way the first time I drove down in a sedan ):

[–]alex9001 6 points7 points ago

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the brake pedal begins to vibrate, which vibrates your right foot, and you hear a "gritty" sound.

go to an empty parking lot/other empty area when it's rainy or snowy out, drive up to about 30mph, and mash the brake pedal as hard as you can...you will probably feel it then. it's always better to experiment in (relatively) controlled conditions than letting the first time you experience something be a time when your life or someone else's life is at risk.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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it doesn't have to be rainy to snowy. just got fast enough to where you can lock up the tires and stand on the brakes.

[–]Respun 2 points3 points ago

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Look back at the picture of the dog on the left. Now, rather than it pounding its feet on the sand, imagine it's doing that on the bottom of your brake foot. That's how it feels.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Maybe kind of like... using a power tool that has a bit of jerky motion to it? Except you're using it with your foot. ABS makes a sound too, like a kind of loud mechanical "BUM BUM BUM" several times a second.

Not to be confused with breaks that are just wearing unevenly. That's more of a muffled "thupthupthupthup" and happens everytime you break, even gently.

[–]poo_smudge 2 points3 points ago

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I'm starting my comment with "Here in Miami" you know where I'm going with this...

[–]kittenburrito 1 point2 points ago

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I learned to drive in the winter too, though in the suburbs of Chicago, and I really wish someone had warned me about how ABS feels, or forced me to skid like your instructor did. I ended up getting in an accident because of this. It was a minor one, but it was nonetheless scary as fuck when it happened, and irritating when I found out later that I shouldn't have let my foot off the brake when that sensation kicked in.

[–]ModerateBias 12 points13 points ago*

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I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet. Not the 5 year old version, but very relevant.

There are two types of friction here that apply, kinetic friction and static friction. Static friction is the friction between two objects not moving relative to each other. It is what holds still things in place on slanted surfaces. Kinetic friction is the friction between 2 objects, at least one of which is moving relative to the other.

Static friction is almost always greater than kinetic friction. Meaning the force holding an object still is greater than the force slowing a moving object down.

Now, the beauty of a wheel, from a physics standpoint, is that because of the rolling motion of a wheel, the touching surface of the wheel is using static friction rather than kinetic. When using friction to create speed (which is what driving and walking both do) this makes wheels faster. A point on a wheel that is not skidding will contact the ground, and remain touching that SAME point of ground as the wheel turns, lifting other points from the ground and adding new ones to it. I suck at illustrating or i'd do so. Best i can do is to point out that when running, each step plants on the same point of ground as you move forward, a wheel is like that but with basically infinite different "feet".

Now, when slowing down, the same principle applies. Since friction is what slows down an object, the idea of an ABS system is to maximize friction. A tire that is skidding is no longer functioning as a wheel, and the "point" in question on the wheel is no longer staying still relative to the ground, but is moving along it. this means the wheel is now using the lower co efficient of kinetic friction rather than the higher one of static friction. Anti lock brakes aim to keep the wheel rolling while applying the maximum pressure (which, in turn, creates the maximum friction) possible while still using the higher coefficient.

So basically, the ABS system allows the wheels to slip over the breaks, so they maintain maximum friction on the road, which increases both the rate of deceleration and the general maneuverability of the car.

Anyone who tells you ABS is less safe because it takes control from the user simply does not understand the physics involved.

Edit Also note that anyone talking about the system basically pumping your brakes on and off 10 times a second are misunderstanding the physics of it as well.

[–]tarheel91 1 point2 points ago

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I'd just like to make a slight modification for those with a more thorough understanding of physics. Tires are actually always slipping whenever they're under longitudinal acceleration because of deformation, however, the slip ratio will rarely go above 3-4% (that is, (distance wheel has spun - distance car has traveled)/distance car has traveled=ratio). What spinning is defined as depends on where you are in the world, but it's generally either 50% or 100%. Under maximum breaking, there's a good bit of slip, maybe 10%. ABS does not prevent slipping, it simply limits it to the desire amount.

[–]throwaway19111 1 point2 points ago

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Actually, they do. Once you get onto a surface where it is impossible to have static friction while braking, then ABS becomes useless and worse.

Examples are gravel or deep snow. In these conditions, ABS activates at the lightest touch of the pedal, and will significantly increase your braking distances over locking up the wheels.

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[–]Awkwardly_Scary 2 points3 points ago

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Why does she look famous...

[–]canireddit 3 points4 points ago

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Chloe Moretz. She was in Kick-ass, 500 Days of Summer, and Hugo.

[–]mezo_surfer 2 points3 points ago

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Here's a good video about it: http://youtu.be/ngKSirE7zJA

[–]Ishaiah 1 point2 points ago

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How brakes work: Hydraulic fluid presses on the brake, which presses on your wheel. Friction between the two slow your car down.

NO ABS: Wheels lock, the only force working to slow your car down is that between the rubber on your tires and the road.

ABS: Computer detects that the wheels have locked and momentarily turns the brake off. The vibrating you feel is the ABS switching from turning the brakes on/off.

Not for a 5 year old: I can't say for sure if the pressure is cut entirely, or if the computer is able to determine the maximum amount of force that can be applied under current conditions w/o causing the wheels to lock.

Question: Will downshifting aid in slowing your car down while the ABS is doing its thing?

[–]ModerateBias 1 point2 points ago

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Down shifting, also known as engine braking, only actually is effective at higher speeds, speeds you shouldn't be going at in icy conditions anyway. Beyond that, know, it won't help slow you down faster in a skid, because it is basically another braking force on the axle and thereby the wheel, and anti lock brakes work by limiting this force so the wheel don't lock completely. In essence down shifting is working against your anti lock breaks, not for it. Your anti locks can handle this, and you should probably downshift anyway, because you were going too fast to begin with...

[–]aterlumen 1 point2 points ago

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Yep, I learned on a stick with no ABS, and unless you're really experienced or prepared to spin out a couple times I wouldn't recommend trying to slow down via downshifting at all when it's slippery. Your brakes alone will give you much more fine tuned control and if you do start skidding it's easier to recover. It seems like most of the people I've taught end up freezing the first few times they try it because they can't decide if they should try giving it a bit more gas or hitting the clutch.

Protip: Always the clutch. ALWAYS

[–]i_heart_boobs 1 point2 points ago

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The ABS modulator is activated once pedal pressure meets a predetermined pressure. When the ECU detects a locked wheel via wheel speed sensor a solenoid literally cuts the pressure momentarily.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points ago

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Since you know so much about it...

No one can find anything wrong with my brakes or tires... They've all been replaced earlier this year.

Why does my car decide to spin around if the ground is the least bit wet? I will just be driving, put the breaks on lightly and try to coast to a stop, then at 15 fucking miles an hour my car will just start floating and soon I am facing oncoming traffic (which I had previously been moving with.). What is up with that?

I attribute my not getting killed to my being calm about the whole thing. At this point i am just like "Ok... Skidding, hazard lights... Steer as best as possible... alright... Stopped... turn around and start on course again."

[–]a1k0n 4 points5 points ago

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Is your parking brake engaged?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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Nope. LOL

[–]a1k0n 9 points10 points ago

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I'm basically certain that it is, even if the handbrake/pedal isn't down, as it's consistent with what you describe. Under ordinary driving, you can easily overpower the brake, but once you slow down enough on a surface which is even a little bit slippery, the back wheels will lock up, causing you to do a 180.

I'd try jacking up the back of the car and see if you can spin the back wheels. If the car is in park (I'm assuming this is an automatic FWD car) but the parking brake is released, it should be easy. If not, the cable is stuck.

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Hm. That is interesting. I didn't know that the pedal could be in an off position and the brake still be on. I will try that when it gets to be morning.

[–]AeBeeEll 1 point2 points ago

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My mom had a car whose emergency brake was always partially on. I think she had to take it into a shop and either have them fix it or disable the brake entirely, so you may or may not be able to fix it yourself.

On the bright side, if it turns out the brake is on, you may also get better mileage once you get it fixed.

[–]i_heart_boobs 1 point2 points ago

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Over adjustment of rear drum brakes will cause them to lock before the fronts (if it is locking before you lose control, which I'm assuming they are) Otherwise (and especially if it is a non-adjustable disc brake rear end) there will be a brake proportioning valve which is responsible for the distribution of brake pressure between the wheels, (As the front brakes usually do about 60% or the braking) if this is at fault it could cause your rears to lock early.

[–]foonix 1 point2 points ago

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Roll to a stop after 5-10 minutes of highway driving using little or no brakes (including parking break). Check each brake to see if any one is hotter than the other. If you have a hot one, that one is dragging.

[–]caraficionado24[S] 2 points3 points ago

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What do you happen to drive?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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2003 Malibu

[–]MstrKief 2 points3 points ago

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Is your car light? It could be that you're just not getting enough traction, I had a Dakota Sport truck as my first vehicle, and on wet roads it would be easy to spin around due to the back not having hardly any weight.

But you didn't say anything about wet conditions...so grip shouldn't really be a problem, but it might be worth a try to put heavy shit in the back.

[–]c5rr 1 point2 points ago

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Does your car behave differently - depending on turning direction - when you make a longer left or right turn with a speed that makes the car tilt a little? Could be a suspension problem with one of the front wheels. (Let your mechanic check the suspensions, don't try to test this in traffic!)

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Not that I notice, but I have an inner ear problem. All cars feel like they are going to flip over all the time to me. I mean they feel like they are on their sides when I am in them... All cars. It's scary shit sometimes. I hate long ramps on the freeway.

I will have one of my car friends look at it. (I know at least three people who repair cars... Free-lance style mechanics. So much less costly than normal mechanics.)

[–]mcKaskie 1 point2 points ago

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No offense, but if cars feel like they are about to flip over all the time is it really safe for you to be driving? Could it be that you are turning the wheel and pressing the brakes too hard without even knowing it because of your balance problems?

[–]SetToGeek 4 points5 points ago

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To me, the vibrations make me feel like I'm losing control (which, basically what it means), and I end up pushing harder to stop the car that I've now lost control of (and pushing harder makes it feel like it has more of a grip, as if I'm physically digging into the ground).

[–]LettersFromTheSky 1 point2 points ago

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I guess I'm just different, cause every time I get that kick back on the brake pedal when the ABS is engaged it makes me step on the brake harder.

[–]Meades_Loves_Memes 1 point2 points ago

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My driving instructor explained to me that people with no knowledge of ABS get scared by the vibrations and release the break a little. These people shouldn't be on the road.

It was part of my driving school to get up to 80KM and stop as hard as I could before a T road stop sign (I'm the only one with the stop sign, the other cars don't have one). I kept getting closer and closer and I was freaking out asking "Should I break now? Now?" He kept telling me no, until we were about 50 meters from the stop sign, and then he told me to stop. It was like movie scene stop right before the car hits something.

He had a break pedal and steering wheel on his side of the car, but he never used it, I'm pretty sure he was confident in me. Anyways, the reason he did that was because he wanted to show me how it would be in a real life scenario, with real stress and surprise. I handled it well. He was a good teacher.

[–]satans_dad 1 point2 points ago

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I fucking hate traction control. It has probably gotten better since we last bought a car with it (2005), but i swear every time it would kick in it would hinder what I was trying to get the car to do. So now I drive with it off.

ABS fucking rules though.

[–]DaftProdigy 1 point2 points ago

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My mom did this. Needless to say, she now knows what ABS is.

[–]shutupjoey 1 point2 points ago

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TIL that's what my car is doing! I thought there was something wrong with the breaks because it has a sort of grinding sound to it.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points ago

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"hey! don't take ramps so hard you're going to put this thing sideways"
"dude it's cool this car has ABS AND traction control"
THOSE THINGS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY

[–]bumwine 5 points6 points ago

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There are way too many people that have no idea what ABS even stands for, much less what it does.

SO many people refuse to know anything about their cars. Sadly, on reddit I see a lot of "new cars are a waste of money, so dumb, my 95 corolla does the same thing!" when some just don't realize how much safer cars have become since then in both structure and computer-based safety systems. Morever, a lot of these safety features started out in luxury cars, eventually trickling down as standard features on even economy models.

Down the line we have things like line drift alerts, blind spot assistance, dynamic ferrofluid suspension, adaptive cruise control.

[–]Rold-Gold 2 points3 points ago

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I use the Google Dictionary plugin for Chrome that lets you double click on a word and it'll show a little pop up telling you what the definition is. Not knowing what ABS is, I double clicked on it and it told me that it is the abdominal muscles...

[–]nobueno1 2 points3 points ago

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When I first looked at the title I was reading it as abs (abdominal muscles, instead of Anti-lock break system) and I had to actually think bout it for a minute for it to click on what he meant.

[–]ccm139 1 point2 points ago

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I was in Maine once visiting schools with my mom during the winter with a bunch of snow already on the ground and a snow storm underway and we ended up skidding on the exit of a highway and hitting the rail slightly. Without ABS it could have been a lot worse, lucky to have just hit the guard rail.

[–]v0lta_7 1 point2 points ago

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My father still thinks it stands for Anti-Braking system.

[–]Zak 1 point2 points ago

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In a sense, that's what it is. It reduces the braking force several times per second to allow the wheels to turn.

[–]Slownique 1 point2 points ago

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I like how ABS dog demonstrated his advanced handling abilities from said barking system.

[–]Sephiroth912 1 point2 points ago

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Definitely helped me understand basically what the fuck happened last week when I got into an accident.

[–]zlam 1 point2 points ago

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Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene. It's a thermo plastic.

[–]Lorem_Ipsum 13 points14 points ago

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Except it is misleading because the ABS doggy should have stopped earlier than non-ABS doggy.

[–]timotab 1 point2 points ago

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ABS doggy is larger, therefore has more mass, therefore has more momentum

[–]Atheizt 2 points3 points ago

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Yep, the comparison is actually better than they likely intended too. Notice both dogs are still traveling at the same speed with and without ABS?

Many don't realize that ABS simply allows you to steer while standing on the brake pedal. It doesn't allow you to stop efficiently.

The fastest way to pull a car up is to apply the right amount of pressure. If 0 were no braking and 10 was locked up, you want to apply 9.9. This gives maximum deceleration and allows you to maintain directional control regardless of whether your car has ABS.

[–]a_tension_center 1 point2 points ago

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Sorry HarmsCore, I'm going to hijack your top score to get this near the top.

To the OP: This is why your dogs misbehave.

No, seriously. Your dogs don't like you and you think it's funny. It's not, and you're a dick. Stop doing stupid shit like this to them for a laugh. It's fucking mean.

Edit: After another look at that photo, if I ever saw somebody doing that to their dogs, I guarantee they would be getting a fist in the mouth.

[–]Hindu_Wardrobe 33 points34 points ago

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Hehe. Corgis. :3

[–]av_e_ator 15 points16 points ago

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I guess I'm the only one trying to figure out why dogs were representing absolute value.

[–]QuinguaTaichou 7 points8 points ago

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abs(xCorgis) = cute.

[–]adietofworms 1 point2 points ago

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I did. And then I realized I was wrong, and decided that the joke here was one dog had really strong abdominal muscles and that's why it could be dragged so consistently.

[–]bernaldiaz 79 points80 points ago

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For those who don't know or are too lazy to look it up, it stands for Anti-Lock Braking System.

[–]TheGreatPastaWars 60 points61 points ago

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Not Argonian Boob Squirts...?

[–]Eyetoss 15 points16 points ago

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Wat

[–]I_Laugh-At-Bad-Jokes 24 points25 points ago

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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[–]i_practice_santeria 18 points19 points ago

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This novelty account is a bad joke. I hope you're happy.

[–]klapaucius 1 point2 points ago

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He could call himself "i_laugh_at_myself", but then his comments wouldn't make any damn sense.

[–]BritishHobo 1 point2 points ago

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I hope you realize 'this novelty account is a bad joke' is a redundancy.

[–]BitchesLove 7 points8 points ago

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I was trying to figure out why flexing your abs would cause you to stutter step.

I was thinking the solid slide was the use of stronger abs hah.

[–]broo20 19 points20 points ago

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Actually, it comes from the German Antiblockiersystem, which apparently translates to "anti skid system".

[–]Time-Traveller 52 points53 points ago

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Then why didn't they just call it ASS?

ASS is something I could see myself getting behind.

[–]GrantOz44 3 points4 points ago

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Does it give rear support?

[–]rozero1234 3 points4 points ago

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Corgis? accurately stated technical jargon? and CORGIS? my god, i love this post!

[–]SpineBuster 6 points7 points ago

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These creatures are not harbor seals.

[–]AnalogDan 1 point2 points ago

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Nor are they loose seals.

[–]jabancroft 5 points6 points ago

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Brakes! Braking!

Not breaks and breaking.

Thank you.

[–]vweltin 20 points21 points ago

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In panic situations where a driver has a knee-jerk reaction and puts the break pedal to the floor (particularly in slippery conditions), Anti-lock Brake Systems do a good job of decreasing your stopping distance.

However, the systems are not flawless.

A technique called "Threshold Braking" can be learned that, when employed properly, can bring a vehicle to a full stop faster than if the ABS kicked in.

[–]blueshiftlabs 39 points40 points ago

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ABS isn't designed to decrease your stopping distance (although it certainly helps improve it over stopping distance in a wheel-locked skid). ABS is designed to let you maintain control in situations where your brakes would otherwise lock. The decreased stopping distance is just a side effect of that.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points ago

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ABS wasn't even an option on my car when it was bult.
In the winter I'll stomp on the brakes and spin the wheel left and right to freak people out when the car just goes in a dead straight line.
When the front wheels aren't spinning, they aren't turning the car.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points ago

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That seems like a great idea...

[–]entschuldigen 17 points18 points ago

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Don't deny it, you just want to take the wheel.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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Hey I never claimed that figuring out how things work is a smart thing to do.

[–]anonmouse 15 points16 points ago

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Except that "Threshold Braking" will distract you from steering your car in a situation where you should react really fast.

I live in Finland and in here just about every young man swears by threshold braking, that is until they get enough money to buy car with ABS. And pretty soon after that they stop blathering about threshold braking.

Sorry to say but threshold braking is simply BS. In fact one of the local car/technology magazine publishes writeups on police reports on those collisions where people died and they consider that people should learn from the case.

And once in a every couple year and then there is a sad story of some youngster who tried to control brakes and steer at the same time. It's very visible from skid tracks so police has no problem on figuring out what the poor guy was trying to do.

[–]throwaway_for_keeps 1 point2 points ago

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I like how you mention that threshold braking can be learned, and then link to wikipedia that says it's near impossible to consistently achieve.

[–]GiggityGiggidy 1 point2 points ago*

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As an S2000 driver who frequently Autocrosses (legally races through an "obstacle course" of traffic cones), I'm going to add that the difference between a properly tuned ABS with good brake bias (distribution of braking force between the front and rear wheels) and threshold braking is negligible for every driving application except a "braking contest," which isn't an automotive event outside of the realm of Top Gear. The photo illustrates this well...both dogs stopped in time to stay dry.

More importantly, a good ABS allows the driver to concentrate on other aspects of driving near the limits, such as positioning the car on the proper racing line, finding the perfect spot to stop braking and turn in, and gauging the speed of corner entry to know how much throttle to apply when leaving the corner. This is why I'm glad the S2000 comes standard with ABS.

You are very correct that systems are not flawless, and if a wheel that doesn't need traction loses it (such as an inside wheel during a corner or a wheel that has come off the ground), then ABS can be a disadvantage.

I would say 99% of the time the minimal distance added by a good ABS is worth it.

EDIT: Actually, the photo is a bad example, because a skidding tire has less stopping power than a rolling tire. My bad

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*okay okay I fucking get it.

My response was based off of the above poster who you guys seem agree with.

[–]iamagainstit 21 points22 points ago

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nope, ABS is just a better braking system in general. the system can pump the brakes a lot faster than you can thus increasing the amount of stopping power.

[–]hoptopop 2 points3 points ago

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where are the guy's footprints? ... jesus?

[–]tritoch 2 points3 points ago

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The thing of note here is that the left vehicle was able to change course, the main feature of ABS. Sure the right vehicle appears to slowing more rapidly, but that is a more easily attributed to the additional traction of the sand surface. Basically, the right vehicle has better traction and is able to stop better, but only in a straight line. If the ocean were a smaller obstacle the left vehicle would have a much better chance of missing it. It may have even changed course when it got too close to the sliding, out of control, right hand vehicle.

[–]seemein3d 5 points6 points ago

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So if I don't have ABS.. I'll stop sooner?

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Yes, when you collide with the school bus in front of you because you're sliding like a curling stone and can't maneuver slightly to the left to avoid it.

[–]Redcard911 4 points5 points ago

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Either way, they are going in the water.

[–]poroo0 20 points21 points ago

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Why hasnt anyone here noticed that this owner pulled these two dogs (especially the one without ABS) by their necks all the way to the water? That seems kinda cruel to me. Idk

[–]hjddiuwd 10 points11 points ago

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Dogs have tough necks, stop being a pussy.

[–]Funnyguy17 1 point2 points ago

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I wonder how many people won't know what ABS is?

[–]FUCKTHISPENIS 1 point2 points ago

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Instantly thought of Test Track at Disney World.

[–]joshbike 1 point2 points ago

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ABS: Anti-lock brake system. It prevents your brakes from locking your wheels when you slam on the brakes, slowing your car instead of sending you into an out of control skid.

[–]Fhajad 1 point2 points ago

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I just rear ended someone today because of the wet road and I don't have ABS. :/ That skid happened to me for several car lengths.

Feels bad, man.

[–]xb4r7x 1 point2 points ago

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According to this picture, a corgi without ABS can stop faster than one with it... why is that model so much more expensive?

[–]KWONdox 1 point2 points ago

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What the heck? The dog with ABS went farther than the dog without ABS! MADNESS!

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I don't like ABS, when ever I punch the brakes it feels as if I'm not in control.

[–]wauzy 1 point2 points ago

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judging by this picture, it seems that ABS is less effective then no ABS, shouldn't it be the other way around?

[–]djheater 1 point2 points ago

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My corgi doesn't like water either. I've tried a few times and he has a very explicit 'NOoooPE' reaction. I don't try any more. I think he knows his short legs and heavy coat would probably be his doom in the water.

[–]stoopidmonkeys 1 point2 points ago

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Personally I was hoping for some pipe. Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene anyone?..no?

Fine I'll go make a potato canon to feed the Irish.

[–]dontFightThis 1 point2 points ago

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I had this one teacher back in school who called them Anti Braking System.

[–]Richeh 1 point2 points ago

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Urgh. No-one should have to use their asshole as a braking system on sand.

[–]AssViolator 1 point2 points ago

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Isnt it supposed to be the other way around? Antilock brakes allow you to control the car and go strait while breaking. So if they were on it would look like the cat on the right.

[–]bloodyabortiondouche 3 points4 points ago

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But the picture shows the ABS:Off car stopping earlier and it doesn't really skid off to the side.

Your picture seems to be against ABS. ABS makes emergency braking safer.

[–]ethemeral 1 point2 points ago

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ABS doesn't work as well on gravel/sand, so it's actually fairly accurate

[–]Studybuddies 1 point2 points ago

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Looks like ABS off is winning.

[–]glasstablechair 1 point2 points ago

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Your car takes longer to stop with ABS if you are on a loose surface such as dirt, gravel, or sand.

[–]kent_stor 2 points3 points ago

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Growing up in rural Canada has been great for driving! You learn what all kinds of road conditions are like and makes you wonder how some city people get in so many damn accidents. Winter is especially fun for drifting and there's never any cops around. Nothing more fun than face-to-face drift circles with two vehicles and some friends in a parking lot.

[–]ITripFatPpl 2 points3 points ago

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No idea why you got downvoted, I've never done the face to face thing (Fear of fucking up our cars overcomes our confidence in our skills), but pretty much everything else you said is spot on for me (A fellow Canadian hailing from somewhere rural enough the roads don't immediately get plowed and salted), you pick up some pretty good driving ability living our lifestyle, often on snow days we'll roam around looking for people who don't know how to drive with a 4x4 with a winch to help tow out a few people who learned their first "Brakes on a snowy corner makes the car go straight" lesson.

[–]mattkow55 3 points4 points ago

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repost from r/topgear

[–]montmorency_the_dog 3 points4 points ago

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Dear OP, Thanks for stealing my original comment and posting for your karmic benefit.

http://imgur.com/gallery/CNObn

Sincerely, meteoritehunter/montmorency_the_dog