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[–]zendick 338 points339 points ago

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No wars?! ha are you kidding me.

[–]SpareNoExpense 31 points32 points ago

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1.5 million died as a result of sanctions in Iraq as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_sanctions#Estimates_of_deaths_due_to_sanctions

[–]JonHartigan 8 points9 points ago

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Don't forget the bombing of the Aspirin factory in Sudan!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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It was pseudoephedrine actually.

[–]JonHartigan 2 points3 points ago

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Either way, it wan't manufacturing chemical weapons.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Just a Sudanfed joke... I'm pretty sure it was an Aspirin factory.

[–]ProfObladee 10 points11 points ago

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...and keep dying as a result of said sanctions.

[–]meanderingmalcontent 25 points26 points ago

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Thought the same thing. We've been at war since the revolutionary one.

[–]symo420 21 points22 points ago

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Yea they were Good wars , I mean look how good Somalia is doing now, no wait..

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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Clinton didn't get us into Somalia, that was Poppy. But he did oversee the more hectic stage of that conflict.

[–]d7b 6 points7 points ago

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Balkans anybody?

[–]NonAmerican 9 points10 points ago

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The propaganda that supported the bombing of Serbia was top quality. The Clinton excuse was "they committed atrocities". What they failed to mention was that they committed atrocities on both sides, not only the side NATO wanted to help at the moment. And who did they help? The muslim minority of Albanians that wanted to Annex part of Serbia. Nice.. [potentially to destabilize the region and be able to control it easily with little isolated parts]

edit: The best propaganda is not done with lies but with half truths. Bush had a lot to learn from Clinton.

[–]10z20Luka 5 points6 points ago

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I'm glad someone mentions the alternate view. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Serbia. But no one for a fucking second brings up the KLA or Albanian's actions. Same thing with the civil war, no one ever hears about Tuđman or Izetbegović.

[–]poorpinto 5 points6 points ago

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again, presidents cannot declare war. blame your elected officials if you have to. Or, if you voted, blame yourself.

[–]meanderingmalcontent 0 points1 point ago

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Ah, but as CinC, they can send them into "conflicts" which are not technically wars. See: Reagan era.

[–]d7b 1 point2 points ago

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well said.

The days are over where you can just blanket bomb the fuck out of innocent or untried people and call yourself a peacemaker imo.

[–]americasux 2 points3 points ago

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this was a case where they were actually trying to end a war. obviously there was lots of bullshit, and side-taking, and other questionable matters (it's a fucking war). but there was a war that just kept on going, and it was about to take another step. and it ended. in part because of the actions in Kosovo. This is NOTHING compared to Iraq.

[–]d7b 0 points1 point ago

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I am aware that it isnt the same level of conflict.

But to me that is like saying: 'I killed a man... but did it quickly... not slowly'

who fucking cares? you have blood on your hands regardless. I am also not convinced that NATO and the US were acting to benefit anybody but themselves. The damage was done. Another set of extremely loose operation as the last thing they needed over there imo considering the nature of the conflict.

Bush Jr just had more greedy corporate friends/connections to coax him into a lengthy war. This is the only difference between any US President.

Also, I grew up in the Middle East. I know from speaking to my Iraqi mates vs Serbian/Croatian friends that Iraq is a huge fucking mess that wont be repaired in our lifetime. But yeah... both areas are pretty fucked in my eyes :S

[–]poorpinto 0 points1 point ago

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look how great our current wars are going. what do you think Iraq and Afghanistan are gonna look like in 10 years? and, oh wait, presidents CAN'T declare war. He was a pretty fucking good president when you compare him to what we've dealt with since.

[–]leavemudkipalone 52 points53 points ago

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But... Bill Clinton!!! Feed him upvotes!!!!!!

[–]RedAnarchist 12 points13 points ago

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There were was a war. There were also other varios miltary actions.

If you look at the number of troops that died under Clinton vs the number of troops that died under Bush you'll see that it's not as peaceful and lopsided as you would imagine.

[–]nice_try_employer 4 points5 points ago*

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Relevant

What it does show though is a trend of decreasing troop death that surged again when we entered two wars.

[–]yo-yofrisbee 5 points6 points ago

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the american people forced clinton not to intervene in rwanda because the american public is smart and knows what is best. clinton should not of listened, however there was an election coming up so he obliged the citizens of our great infallible nation.

[–]beard_ 0 points1 point ago

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Because intervening in Korea and Vietnam worked out so well?

[–]yo-yofrisbee 0 points1 point ago

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no, that did not work out so well. howeve, we knew what was coming in rwanda, but, because of those failures, we should never intervene in a genocide? all rwanada had was machine guns. we xcould of done something. of course, in hte end, if we didn't slaughter all the hutus to save the tutsi's, that wouldnt of been much better. and, in the end, tho millions died, the tutsi rose above. still, we could of done something but the american people, because of our boys being sent home in boxces from kosavo. it is are fault, in that we allowed for a mass genocide of a people by their own people because we knew but wouldn't of liked it if we went and intervened. you cannot say that just because there have een mistakes in some situations, that all situations are the same. did vietnam want our help? or was that propaganda fed to the people so we would get behind the effort? rwanda asked for our help.

[–]mzkny88 0 points1 point ago

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Are you serious? No way Bush and his disgrace of a era as President will always be a tarnish to this Great nation.

[–]leavemudkipalone 0 points1 point ago

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I think you missed my Internet Sarcasm.

[–]RedAnarchist 1 point2 points ago

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Just responding to the thread, not you specifically.

[–]Csusmhistory 1 point2 points ago

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Give Reddit Clinton, Redditors love Clinton.

[–]Monotone_Robot 3 points4 points ago

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No shit. What was my brother deployed to, a field trip?

Since declaring war has fallen out of style, here's what I use:

US military casualties of war

[–]NonAmerican 2 points3 points ago

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The little something on the side is the Bombing of Serbia.

[–]NoctGent 7 points8 points ago

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glad this is on top... how quickly some forget.

[–]bucherm 4 points5 points ago

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Forget that Clinton had multiple wars under his belt?

Oh, that's right, it isn't a war unless there are people on the ground. Whoops :)

[–]Andre7723 10 points11 points ago

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Isn't the only thing he had under his belt.

[–]NoctGent 1 point2 points ago

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ftfy: Oh, that's right, it isn't a war unless there are people under the ground.

[–]bucherm 0 points1 point ago

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Well...the Serbs do love their bunkers.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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i don't want to be a dick...but the smiley face kind of made you seem like a dick

i don't want to seem like a dick though

[–]bucherm 0 points1 point ago

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A smarmy dick on the Internets?

PREPOSTEROUS

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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smarmy dick sounds like an English delicacy

[–]hookedupphat 0 points1 point ago

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Every time this is posted it's on the top. Perfect poster otherwise.

[–]AccusationsGW 9 points10 points ago

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I used to laugh when my democrat friends would repeat that shit, until the tenth time or so, now I just die inside a little more each time.

[–]rbadaro 1 point2 points ago

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[–]grinch337 1 point2 points ago

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Bosnia, Iraq, Somalia... hmm... I mean... I Like Clinton as much as the next liberal, but c'mon

[–]LettersFromTheSky 1 point2 points ago

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My only criticism of Bill Clinton stems that he didn't do anything to stop the genocide in Rwanda where 20% of the population was murdered.

[–]Gorillaz_Noodle 2 points3 points ago

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Plus the economy was just doing well at this time, there was the internet bubble just in it's initial stages. Business was doing well, not necessarily economic policies of government.

[–]rocketwidget 1 point2 points ago

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Yea, that shouldn't be there. Still, those wars were vastly less costly and destructive.

[–]stevesonaplane 0 points1 point ago

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this is r/funny.

[–]ShampocalypseWOW 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, seriously. This poster is almost as absurd as the Bush one.

[–]ForeverMarried 0 points1 point ago

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Casualties under President Clinton (U.S. and abroad).. people need to study them before saying how goody goody Clinton was.

[–]flinkazoid 86 points87 points ago

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Wasn't Glass Stegal repealed under his administration, which in affect got us into this mess now?

[–]haifischsandiwch 41 points42 points ago

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Commodities Futures Modernization Act.

[–]verbose_gent 19 points20 points ago

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NAFTA

[–]buzzbros2002 11 points12 points ago

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NAMBLA

[–]chronocrux 9 points10 points ago

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NAFTA was George Bush Sr.

Relevant

[–]gbCerberus 3 points4 points ago*

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement:

President George H. W. Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and Mexican President Carlos Salinas, each responsible for spearheading and promoting the agreement, ceremonially signed it. The agreement then needed to be ratified by each nation's legislative or parliamentary branch.

Before the negotiations were finalized, Bill Clinton came into office in the U.S. and Kim Campbell in Canada, and before the agreement became law, Jean Chrétien had taken office in Canada.

...

Clinton signed it into law on December 8, 1993; it went into effect on January 1, 1994. Clinton while signing the NAFTA bill stated: "...NAFTA means jobs. American jobs, and good-paying American jobs. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't support this agreement."

[–]Gr4yhound 10 points11 points ago

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Not to mention the beginning of the NINJA Loans (No Income, No Job, No Assets) that caused this whole housing crisis

[–]punarvasu 2 points3 points ago

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he did plenty of awful shit. awful.

this year he apologized to Haiti for all the shit he did during his administration. if that's how you treat the weakest of your neighbors, how do you treat the rest?

Clinton somehow has this impeccable image, that is a pipe dream.

[–]evolve18 1 point2 points ago

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Yes and yes. Also, read the FCIC report for the numerous other deregulations under Clinton that lead to our current economic state.

[–]non00b 1 point2 points ago

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Under Clinton, the military had a chance to assassination Osama and he did not give the order to kill.

[–]rreinad 3 points4 points ago

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Yes, Gramm-Leach-Bliey Act was signed by Pres. Clinton however at the time Congress was heavily Republican. It was going to get passed regardless of Clinton vetoing.

[–]Calibas 2 points3 points ago

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Having the majority of Democrats support it didn't help either. link

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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That is true flinkazoidzoidzoidzoid, but you need to realize the Republicans controlled enough seats in the House and Senate to override a veto. I think he just signed it into law because they would override his veto and make him look even worse considering the circle of bad press surrounding him in the wake of the Lewinsky scandal.

[–]rspeed 0 points1 point ago

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It contributed, but I'd argue that the biggest cause (by far) was the Fed setting interest rates ridiculously low.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Affordable Housing Act was instated, that didn't help either.

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[–]rreinad 0 points1 point ago

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[–]fnordo 63 points64 points ago

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[–]dog_in_the_vent 26 points27 points ago

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[–]deakterinbuuuuu3rg 8 points9 points ago

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...are you kidding? Those where UN (United Nations) programmes to control that a nation doesn't go over the no fly-zones it has been orderd... ..except the last one, what was also a UN operation to capture one man (Aidid, Somalian clan lord, killed 24 UN peacekeepers) by 140 US soldiers...

Those were no wars.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Gothic Serpent? What a name.

[–]deakterinbuuuuu3rg 5 points6 points ago

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As a European, I can say that this was indeed a must must situation. The Serbian Milojevich was absolutely going crazy and murdering people on ethnical bases was just unforgiveble! And it was not USA:s war alone, there where Nato WITH France etc. (Yes, I know France is in Nato)... As we know, it was mainly a bombing campaign and wasn't anything near Iraq, Afganistan etc. What make me personally worried, was that Europe couldn't solve this crise by its own. Especially the British Gov. statesments were that time arrogant and weird. And yes, Finland had that time its historys worst economic downfall. The collapsed USSR draw us in... naah, face it, we were part of that rusty boat...

[–]Dizmn 90 points91 points ago

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Oh, how I yearn for the days when Wars were hidden from the public eye and the economy was built on a house of cards... ಠ_ಠ

[–]Abaddon314159 33 points34 points ago

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Yeah, but it was such a nice house of cards, with such a reasonable mortgage.

[–]epicwinguy101 2 points3 points ago

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Dude, check this out. I put all my retirement savings into this new "internet site" company. My money has tripled, and it can only keep going up.

[–]niomosy 0 points1 point ago

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Just hope they don't start turning a profit or the stock will tumble like mad.

[–]jabb0 -1 points0 points ago

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A house of cards with a surplus and a balanced budget.

[–]Dizmn 8 points9 points ago

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the government != the economy.

[–]suninabox 1 point2 points ago

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The "surplus" came from pillaging social security.

[–]Abaddon314159 43 points44 points ago

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First, this is a repost, like a lot. Second, no wars? You must be too young to remember. I like the guy, all things considered I think he was one of the better presidents we've had, but are you fucking kidding me, no wars? Somalia, the Balkans, ring a bell?

[–]IlluminatedWorld 8 points9 points ago

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Not to mention our inaction during the Rwandan genocide.

[–]FrugalNinja 15 points16 points ago

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What good president? Wars, bubbles, repealing of laws that got us into this mess becuase he didnt fix the other issues. He was terrible.

[–]jabb0 10 points11 points ago

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When's the last time a president left office with a balanced budget and a surplus?

[–]FrugalNinja 7 points8 points ago

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Never, since the bubble was bursting on the dotcom boom the US would have expirenced a massive dip in revenue resulting in a deficet again. 9/11 hit and a large number of finacial institutions were hard hit resulting in a massive dip that would have been evened off if we hadnt gone to war.

The "surplus" was social security dollars something that was not supposed to be spent by the federal government but was pushed into the general slush fund, and why the hell did a government body have a surplus, I dont know about you but I'm fairly sure some roads needed fixing and some bellies were unfilled.

[–]jabb0 1 point2 points ago

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So Bill should have stayed on as co-president through W's administration and the good times would have kept going?

I can accept that.

[–]FrugalNinja 1 point2 points ago

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Where did that come from? He created a false evioment that collapsed, luckily, early otherwise it would have been a far worse situation if the housing bubble hit at the same time.

[–]jabb0 1 point2 points ago

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Yet you can't say things have been better since Bill.

[–]Spoonerville 0 points1 point ago

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You just made an impossible statement. A balanced budget is one where income and expenditures are equal. A surplus budget is one where income exceeds expenditures.

[–]jabb0 0 points1 point ago

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Stay in school.

[–]Abaddon314159 1 point2 points ago

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Its all comparative. Unfortunately its kind of slim pickings in the 20th century if you ask me.

[–]epicwinguy101 1 point2 points ago

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If you take a serious look at any point in history, it is slim pickings.

[–]FrugalNinja -1 points0 points ago

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Comparative? He was bottom of the barrel bad.

[–]Abaddon314159 2 points3 points ago

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I disagree.

[–]FrugalNinja 8 points9 points ago

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On what grounds exactly? the fact he counted the social security funds as surplus when it in fact was not? the fact his administration repleaed an important law that kept banks from going to large? The fact his administration passed laws that forced banks to take high risk loans? the fact the he took this country into sevreal armed conflicts? the fact he refused to arrest Osama when he was given the chance?

On what grounds exactly do you disagree beyond he got a hummer in the whitehouse?

[–]skol84 1 point2 points ago

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Every other week hardly qualifies as a repost by Reddit standards.

[–]bongilante 5 points6 points ago

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Yep, and to think they wanted to impeach him over 2/3's a blowjob but bush can torture people all day long.

[–]zlavan 10 points11 points ago

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i'm pretty sure it was a full blowjob. if i recall correctly, her dress was um 'evidence'

[–]bongilante 0 points1 point ago

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oh yeah that's right like a few times in a row it wasn't complete but the dress is what got him in trouble.

[–]RogerStrong 1 point2 points ago

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Clinton getting a BJ was declared to be of vital national importance by the Republicans. They did everything but demand that he get re-blown on the Senate floor. ("We must know exactly what happened!!!) Everything had to be done in public and under oath, and every word published.

Not so with 9/11, when they investigated the warnings President Bush II received.

The White House wanted to limit any appearance by the president to just one hour spent with two of the commissioners. Bush II did eventually meet with the Commission, but only under stringent conditions: Bush had to have Dick Cheney at his side, testifying at the same time; testimony was given in private and NOT UNDER OATH; no press coverage was allowed; and no recordings or transcripts were made of what they said.

Do anyonebelieve, even for an instant, that there isn't some damning pieces of evidence they kept unpublished?

[–]srowland 0 points1 point ago

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But..but...nine...eleven

[–]WhoShotJR 2 points3 points ago

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Weren't we bombing Iraq during his Presidency on a regular basis?

[–]Abaddon314159 3 points4 points ago

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Not nearly as regularly or as completely as we were before or after

[–]epicwinguy101 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah, it's cool. We only bombed them a little bit.

[–]RogerStrong 0 points1 point ago

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"Returned fire" is a more accurate description.

[–]thegentile 125 points126 points ago

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ignorant much?

[–]RedAnarchist 26 points27 points ago

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Also, wrong subreddit.

Please keep misinformed, misleading, basless political statments in /r/politics where they belong. I'm here for cat videos.

[–]MsFrightlin 4 points5 points ago

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as an anarchist, I wouldn't expect you to be so concerned about the rules

[–]nice_try_employer 4 points5 points ago

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Never trust the Reds

[–]punchingbabies 6 points7 points ago

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There was actually an article in Fortune magazine like 3 or 4 weeks ago that interviewed Clinton. It pretty much asked him what he thinks should be done about the current economic crisis and he came up with some pretty good ideas. Wish I could find that article again.

[–]shrapnel09 1 point2 points ago

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He was on The Daily Show touting his new book and talking about the same topic (from the sounds of it).

[–]Niqulaz 5 points6 points ago

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Call the plumber, /r/politics is leaking shit everywhere again!

[–]Natrino 4 points5 points ago

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Monica Lewinsky may have been a lot of things, but little wasn't one of them.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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No wars, plenty of conflicts.

[–]snokyguy 21 points22 points ago

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Yugoslavia...

[–]jb2386 2 points3 points ago

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Bless you!

[–]Roscko 17 points18 points ago

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r/politics

[–]TeCuervo 7 points8 points ago

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I miss him but cannot forgive him for NAFTA and, of course, the DMCA.

[–]rspeed 2 points3 points ago

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It's disturbing how reasonable the DMCA seems now when compared to SOPA.

[–]quaintcracker 10 points11 points ago

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inflated economy that crashed soon after he left

[–]Abaddon314159 0 points1 point ago

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you have to admit he had a good sense of timing.

[–]endline80 2 points3 points ago

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[–]myasianwife 2 points3 points ago

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Hell yeah, that was America's Golden Age. It was the only time that has been compared favorably to the 1950's. We'll be lucky if we see it that good again in our lifetime.

[–]yetanotherx 2 points3 points ago

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We've got a /r/politics leak again. This could be on the scale of Three Mile Island...

[–]evolve18 2 points3 points ago

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How about the repeal of Glass-Steagal??? In 1999, the repeal signed by Clinton allowed the combination of investment and local banks...fast-forward to 2008...Financial Fucking Crisis. Read the FCIC Report and then get back to us on whether we need another twat like Clinton around.

[–]chiablo 7 points8 points ago

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Not really... this gets reposted and about once a week.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago

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REPOST ALL THE THINGS!!!

[–]u8eR 8 points9 points ago

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The bombing of Yugoslavia and Sudan, Don't Ask Don't Tell, Defense of Marriage Act, NAFTA, and the creation of economic bubbles that would collapse shortly after his presidency. Meh.

[–]liontigerbearshark 8 points9 points ago

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Also fucking up Somalia.

[–]latticusnon 7 points8 points ago

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I'm not going to touch on the rest, but it was either DADT or no gays allowed.

[–]RogerStrong 1 point2 points ago

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NAFTA was a Republican show from the beginning. The Canada-U.S. free trade agreement was signed by Reagan. NAFTA was an expansion of this agreement that added Mexico, and was signed by Bush I in 1992. Since the agreement had been signed by Bush I under his fast-track prerogative, Clinton did not alter the original agreement. The U.S. House passed it with considerably more Republican than Democrat support.

All Clinton was really responsible for was a couple add-on agreements that attempted to raise Mexican worker and environmental standards, to try to level the playing field for American workers.

[–]MrVop 3 points4 points ago

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And if only presidents were responsible for all those things...

[–]The_Orville_Brothers 1 point2 points ago

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I heard the phrase "better blowjobs than no jobs". this should be Herman Cain's campaign slogan (although I don't know about the jobs part)

[–]pezzshnitsol 1 point2 points ago

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low spending

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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I completely read that in his voice.

[–]gsfgf 1 point2 points ago

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I saw him on tv saying that we should get rid of term limits. I'd vote for the guy again.

Edit: Or, you know, for the first time since I wasn't old enough to vote in 1996.

[–]yourmom1986 1 point2 points ago

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Bill, why did you stop calling me?

[–]killerwhaleMD 1 point2 points ago

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I read this in his voice

[–]wayndom 1 point2 points ago

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hell, I missed him the day Bush took office...

[–]Fox_and_Ravens 1 point2 points ago

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Every time this is reposted, there's always the same arguments. Can I please just stop seeing this in /r/funny????

[–]NothinToSeeHere 1 point2 points ago

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Everyone after JFK is a scumbag. There i said it.

[–]Ras_H_Tafari 1 point2 points ago

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The first black president..

[–]erilicte 1 point2 points ago

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Did anyone else read this in his voice?

[–]krugo 1 point2 points ago

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SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY. Where can I buy this poster?

[–]Akula_matatta 1 point2 points ago

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Been missin' ya for a long time now, Big Dog...

[–]4thens 1 point2 points ago

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Come back bill...

[–]midas22 1 point2 points ago

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America has been living on borrowed time for a long while.

[–]mltt4b 1 point2 points ago

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blowjobs are better than no jobs

[–]furywarrior 2 points3 points ago

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Somalia? Are you serious? Why do people continue to repost this stupid shit?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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3 months, over 500,000 dead in Rwanda? Signed a convention that obligates us to intervene if genocide is happening?

Bill Clinton: I don't think 500,000 counts as genocide UN agrees

Clinton did some good things, but the Rwandan genocide will never be forgotten, and neither will the fact that no one did a damn thing about it.

[–]litanyofnittanys 3 points4 points ago

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Yeah the economy was great in the 90's, thanks Ron!

[–]jabb0 3 points4 points ago

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I miss him. Especially when compared to the next guy.

[–]Lonelan 4 points5 points ago

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no public wars*

[–]Abaddon314159 10 points11 points ago

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wtf? no public wars, how old are you? Somalia, the Balkans, ring a bell?

[–]Lonelan 8 points9 points ago

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oh, fully aware of everything he bombed and sent troops to, but most people forget about that. which is why the poster says "no wars".

and most of that stuff didn't hit the news until weeks later, or even only showed up as a ticker at the bottom of the screen.

[–]dahlkomy 2 points3 points ago

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And one pubic war.

[–]InTheSoupTogether 0 points1 point ago

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In his defense the shampoo didn't work and it was really starting to itch.

[–]thisnotanagram 3 points4 points ago

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great short-term, boom-time, speculative economic upturn*

[–]Lonelan 2 points3 points ago

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don't forget encouraging lowering the standards on bank loans for homes

[–]RogerStrong 0 points1 point ago

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And where those so-called "lower standards" applied, the loans actually did better than average.

Business Week: Community Reinvestment Act had nothing to do with subprime crisis

Not surprisingly given the higher degree of supervision, loans made under the CRA program were made in a more responsible way than other subprime loans.

[–]TNBadBoy 3 points4 points ago

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FOUR MORE YEARS...FOUR MORE YEARS!

[–]petekill 2 points3 points ago

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No, because you get reposted every couple weeks.

[–]assholebiker 2 points3 points ago

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[–]aTROLLwithSWAG 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, yelling is fun.

[–]CreativeRedditName 1 point2 points ago

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Saw his interview on the Daily Show last night and I was thinking to myself "I was too young to remember this man's presidency, but damnit, he knows his shit. We really need Clinton for a 3rd term."

[–]kikuchiyoali 1 point2 points ago*

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Whatever you think of Clinton, he's a huge policy wonk and political junk[ie]. The man loves the game of it.

Edit: He's addicted to politics, not a Chinese naval ship.

[–]rspeed 0 points1 point ago

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If he'd had a third term nobody would be making any claims about the economy being good.

[–]jabb0 1 point2 points ago

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Operation desert fox.

[–]tagjim 1 point2 points ago

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Kosovo?

[–]Guy-Manuel 1 point2 points ago

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But started the housing crisis.

[–]RogerStrong 0 points1 point ago

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That's a myth.

Business Week: Community Reinvestment Act had nothing to do with subprime crisis

Not surprisingly given the higher degree of supervision, loans made under the CRA program were made in a more responsible way than other subprime loans.

[–]jlevenst 1 point2 points ago

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no wars? BS

[–]lornek 1 point2 points ago

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Clinton was an awesome president. No rose colored glasses required.

[–]teenagers 1 point2 points ago

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even my republican parents miss bill.

[–]bottom_of_the_well -1 points0 points ago

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NAFTA. Don't miss ya bub.

[–]RogerStrong 2 points3 points ago

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NAFTA was a Republican show from the beginning. The Canada-U.S. free trade agreement was signed by Reagan. NAFTA was an expansion of this agreement that added Mexico, and was signed by Bush I in 1992. Since the agreement had been signed by Bush I under his fast-track prerogative, Clinton did not alter the original agreement. The U.S. House passed it with considerably more Republican than Democrat support.

All Clinton was really responsible for was a couple add-on agreements that attempted to raise Mexican worker and environmental standards, to try to level the playing field for American workers.

[–]shabufa 0 points1 point ago

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[–]yourmydinner 0 points1 point ago

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Yes, one guy did all that. This isn't skyrim.

[–]db0255 0 points1 point ago

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The last time this was posted everyone scoffed at "No wars."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfXJhsdUBm0

Describes Bill Clinton well.

[–]bigplansisay 0 points1 point ago

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Yes, James Spader, I miss you yet.

[–]rainysquirel 0 points1 point ago

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Repost

[–]Zeydon 0 points1 point ago

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Miss this repost yet? No, not yet.

[–]bigmeech 0 points1 point ago

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repost me yet?

[–]chuck_testra 0 points1 point ago

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are you americans against war? why cant you vote this is not democracy?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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For being a repost, this sure caused a lot of discussion! Honestly, there's no way to know for sure if your reposting unless you are on reddit for hours and hours a day. I have better things to do.

[–]svlad 0 points1 point ago

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Go back to ruining children's futures.

[–]ryanarchy 0 points1 point ago

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Bill Clinton is a vegan.

[–]ShoesWithSouls 0 points1 point ago

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I'm sure someone has asked for this on a shirt...or maybe underwear

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Bill was on the precipice of a monetary expansion in it's halcyon days.

Anyone could have done the same.

[–]jinku2608 0 points1 point ago

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No Mr. Former Vice President . Your wife is filling the "void" so to speak

[–]tyhoward 0 points1 point ago

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You funny people thinking he did a good job. Research the debt crisis and read then cry realizing it was his blind eye letting Bernanke deregulate everything so those 'dicks' on wallstreet could fine terrible loans to the 99% who decided to take loans they couldn't pay. Great try though how people blame others for this problem because obviously there is no way our could be your own fault.

Sorry people but this is capitalism and its a bitch, but its what we're built on.

[–]BMCS1 0 points1 point ago

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Clinton is a prime example of why I don't give a flying fuck about sex scandals.

He still had the same great policies and intelligence, and an affair did not affect that. It's a personal matter between him and Hilary, it shouldn't lead him to lie about his personal life so his political career wouldn't be tarnished.

[–]random_story 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah because the president is responsible for everything that happens in the world, and he isn't just a spokesperson for the corporations, I mean uh, country of corporations, I MEAN country..........................

of corporatism

[–]ForeverMarried 0 points1 point ago

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More soldiers died under Clinton than under Bush W.

[–]I_play_pokemon 0 points1 point ago

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"Blowjobs is better than no jobs." A redditor

[–]SpookyBlues 0 points1 point ago

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Nope...I don't. Clinton set us up for the biggest financial failure of our lifetimes with removing the Glass-Steigal Act and NAFTA. And there was that whole Bosnia thing. And Somalia. And doing nothing in Rwanda.

The only thing he has going for him is being bookended by two awful presidencies and being Calvin Coolidge lucky. DO YOUR RESEARCH!

[–]RogerStrong 4 points5 points ago

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Glass-Steigal was going to pass even if Clinton used his veto. The Republicans had enough votes. Under those conditions no President would have vetoed it; having it pass anyway wold be a sign of weakness.

NAFTA was a Republican show from the beginning. The Canada-U.S. free trade agreement was signed by Reagan. NAFTA was an expansion of this agreement that added Mexico, and was signed by Bush I in 1992. Since the agreement had been signed by Bush I under his fast-track prerogative, Clinton did not alter the original agreement. The U.S. House passed it with considerably more Republican than Democrat support.

All Clinton was really responsible for was a couple add-on agreements that attempted to raise Mexican worker and environmental standards, to try to level the playing field for American workers.

Clinton inherited the Somalia fiasco from Bush Sr. And because it was a fiasco, not just for the US but for the other countries involved, everyone took a pass when Rwanda happened. Clinton did the right thing with Bosnia.

[–]SpookyBlues 0 points1 point ago

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You need a two-thirds majority to overwhelm a presidential veto which Clinton used to threaten frequently to bully the republicans into compliance. This was also back in the day when the republicans did not filibuster someone's errant sneeze. That's how he got shit done. Repealing Glass-Steigal was supported by him and the democrats in the house along with most republicans.

And Clinton did support NAFTA. He didn't do it grudgingly, he supported that thing with both feet. Clinton signed it into law Dec 8, 1993 and it went into effect in January of 1994, not Bush Sr. Bush Sr. was already out the door. It was an idea that was going forward in Bush Sr's term but Clinton was the one who put it into effect without changing it one iota.

Saying we got bit once so we're going to sit back while millions are killed is bullshit. Either stop saying that you'll do something about genocide when it comes up or actually do something about it.

And Bosnia was a war, that's not "no wars" just wars that went our way. You could say the same thing about Libya today.

[–]sadhandjobs 0 points1 point ago

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War by proxy is still war...

[–]Abaddon314159 2 points3 points ago

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yeah, so is war by, you know, war...like we did under his administration several times.

[–]Scubadogg 0 points1 point ago

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No wars?!! I guess the OP forgot about several of Mr. Clinton's misadventures, most glaring of which was Kosovo. But, yes, I personally miss Mr. Clinton... He was the most consummate politician ever. Who else could stand in front of you, say "I am not here" bite his lip, and you would believe him?