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submitted 10 months ago by reerunn
[–]FoKFill 11 points12 points13 points 10 months ago
"I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's got God on his side." - Bill Hicks
[–]dannyboylee 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago
Has anyone ever tried to shoot the Dalai Lama? I mean, besides the Chinese government?
[–]enterence 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
no. I dont think even the Chinese has tried that as much as they hate him.
[–]Little_Metal_Worker 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago*
there is that old story, and it was on boardwalk empire last night, hence it's fresh in my mind:
There is a man, who is drowning, who prays for god to save him. When a lifeguard comes by, the man refuses his help and says that god will save him, later a boat comes by and again the man refuses their help and says that god will save him, and then another boat comes by, with the same outcome. after the man drowns he goes to heaven and meets god, and he asks why didn't you save me? and god responds I sent you a lifeguard and 2 boats!
What I'm getting at, in the church's eye, perhaps god has provided them with bulletproof glass, so that the pope may be out in public without the risk of assassination.
but hey, I'm just playing devils advocate.
EDIT - Spelling
[–]Incoherentrant 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Eh actually that is a good point. They would just end up rationalizing it that way.
[–]MsLadyyy 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Luke 17:3 "Take heed to yourselves..." Choosing to protect yourself doesn't mean you don't have faith in God; it means you don't have faith in man.
[–]gilleain 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
As the saying goes : "Trust in Allah ... but tie up your camel".
[–]maxximillian 7 points8 points9 points 10 months ago
Faith in God is easy, faith in fellow man... not so much.
[–]Incoherentrant 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
But that is kind of the point though. When people survive crazy shit, or escape not dead from a life threatening event, they claim "OH JESUS! OH GOD! You saved me! I know you were looking out!"
They believe it. They feel Jesus, or God personally watched over them to protect them during whatever happened.
So if the Pope really was an all important person and as close to God as he claims, wouldn't God do the same thing for him? Regardless if someone wanted to kill him, according to the logic of Christians, God would make the gun lock up, or the bomb no go off, etc. etc.
[–]Lots42 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Think about the old joke. Long story short, a woman in a flood passes on a raft, boat and helicopter, claiming God will save her. She drowns. She asks God 'What' and God says 'Woman, I sent the boats and the copter. You dumb'.
[–]CarolineTurpentine 9 points10 points11 points 10 months ago
To be fair, the man was shot. I would be concerned for my safety as well.
[–]biblicalplacebo[] 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago*
Mehmet Ali Agca for anyone who is curious. edit History of the "pope-mobile"
[–]osux 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
on top of that he forgave the guy who shot him. religious or not that's a bold move.
[–]CarolineTurpentine 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
That took some serious inner strength.
[–]Redheadedarcher 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
it's complicated
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
How about "I think I'm the alpha male of the human world"
[–]eafkuor 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
SERIOUSLY? THIS AGAIN?
[–]Decon87 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Seems like a very egotistical way to get from point A to point B.
[–]G59 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
And exponentially funny as the distance from A to B decreases!
[–]algo 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
That's not to stop bullets, it's to stop believers showing him too much love.
[–]5k3k73k 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
So it's like the sneeze guard at a buffet but instead of blocking snot it blocks spoog?
[–]AGuyReadingThisSite 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Or maybe to keep him from getting into the crowd. If a priest loses it, move them elsewhere. If the pope reacts badly to being smacked, poked etc it's a massive pr hit.
Or going by the current jokes, his handlers are making sure kids in the crowd are kept safe.
[–]Martendeparten 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Boy, there's faith in action!
[–]sheepyowl 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
theres no such thing as a bullet-proof glass.
only bullet-resistant glass.
[–]hluduzit 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
It has to be a Mercedes-Benz too!
[–]Smorfty 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
I'd actually call this a good sign. It shows that he has at least SOME reason.
[–]ImNotMafia 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
There are no atheists in fox holes you say?
I don't see any Christians in emergency rooms either.
[–]CoolStoryClub 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
What if God told him to put a bullet glass on. Mad?
[–]trohlin 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
To the Popemobile!!!
I read that as pedomobile.
What's the difference?
[–]firedup422 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
They have faith that if there is a god he would tell some one to shoot that pedophile harboring ignorance spewing idiot..
[–]Skitz_au 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Entire subreddit is just image posts and circle jerking, sure whatever I'm fine with that, nice to circlejerk occasionally, but can we at least get some NEW FUCKING PICTURES?
[–]michaelco 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
How about lightening rods on churchs.
[–]Xysten 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Just because the man doesnt want to be murdered by crazy idots doesn't mean his faith is less than any others.
[–]senkyoushinogaijin 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Gah atheists, we love you, but seriously, you could do a lot more damage than something stupid like this. Faith in God does not equal absolute protection from everything, not only is that just really stupid but even most Christians realize the holes in this logic. Seriously, you guys running out of ideas or something? Guess you cant always keep this running forever...
[–]Espulu 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Nothing says "Give to the poor and needy" like having a golden throne in your own country.
[–]squigs 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
I don't see anything in Catholic dogma that would suggest god will deflect bullets.
Firstly, god is very big on people sorting out their own problems (lazy tyke that he is). Secondly, the loss of a pope is not a problem. He'll just get a new one. Thirdly, someone dying of a gunshot wound isn't a big problem to a god. Everybody dies. The pope will just go to heaven, or, if it turns out Catholic dogma is correct, hell.
[–]boiler_up 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Pretty low, even by r/atheism standards. John Paul II took 4 bullets and as soon as he recovered visited his attacker, forgave him, and urged others to pray for his well-being.
Call that what you will, he was a model human being all around, religion or no.
[–]siggigod 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Well, apart from that thing about condemning the use of condoms to prevent the spread of HIV.
And the other thing, regarding his wilful ignorance of sex abuse by the clergy.
[–]michaelco 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
He also threatened excommunication of any clergy who took claims of clergy raping children to the police. He also claimed that 'condoms make AIDS worse'. I wonder how many children contracted HIV because of this model human beings LIES ?
OK, first off, that was Benedict, not John Paul. Second, you are quoting him horrendously out of context. He stated that sexual abstinence, not the distribution of condoms, was key to cutting down on the spread of AIDS. Distribution of condoms, he said, increased immorality or sexual activity, therefore helping spread HIV. How many people do you think would have AIDS if we stuck to one sexual partner in our lives? Not near as many.
As to the excommunication, do you have anything to back this up? Or is this another gross misquote?
"Distribution of condoms, he said, increased immorality or sexual activity, therefore helping spread HIV." This is exactly the sort of murderous lie I was referring to. and your question "How many people do you think would have AIDS if we stuck to one sexual partner in our lives?" does nothing to address the harm done by this lie a lie that has caused untold suffering and death of innocents. So there is something benedict and ratsass have in common with EVERY pope. They tell outrageous lies that they know will result in millions suffering and dying horrible deaths. Have you read any of the Cloyne report that details how the vatican obstructed investigations into the serial rape and torture of children by the pious,
Condoms do make people have sex more, whether you want to believe this or not. They contribute to the casualization of sex, and therefore to the spread of every STD out there. I can see this discussion is going nowhere, though, as you didn't really answer any of my questions. Way to have a civilized discussion. Exactly the kind of response I expected, unfortunately
[–]Iarwain_ben_Adar -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago
If I trotted around with priceless jewelry on, I'd want that kind of protection too!
Seriously though, ignoring this being the 1000th re-post of this picture, why aren't christians in an hurry to die once they've been saved. You'd think they'd want an exit shortly after getting saved, so they don't have time to mess up being saved and not go to heaven.
[–]Badge9987 -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 months ago
It's not about having faith in God. There's a thing called free will. The idea is that humans control their actions, not God. Nothing is stopping someone from sniping his face off, except for that 3 inch bulletproof glass you speak of. Has nothing to do with faith, good try though.
[–]wckb 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
If there is free will then god isn't all powerful no?
[–]Badge9987 -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago
He gave humans free will, take that as you must to answer your question I suppose.
[–]wckb 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
If we have free will then god isn't all powerful, if we don't have free will then god should prevent any bullets/anyone from wanting to hurt the pope. Its quite simple. You are the one who needs to pick a side
[–]boiler_up -2 points-1 points0 points 10 months ago
"If we have free will then god isn't all powerful" is not logically correct. A general can tell his lieutenant that a battle decision is his call without losing any of his authority. My view of free will is that God has withheld some of his power when creating man, basically showing his trust in us and all of humanity. Unless we are really free, we cannot be held accountable for our actions. It doesn't mean God isn't all powerful, it means he chooses to give us this free will.
[–]wckb 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
....what? I... cant... what? Okay so if we have partial free will as i assume you are saying because your point is extremely confusing, then god could add in a rule saying 'hey guise, no pope killing' and no one would have in their brain to ever attack the pope. If its free will, then god has no control over the world, if its partial free will god could institute certain rules ie 'dont kill the pope' and do other things the world needs fixed, and if there is no free will then theres no reason the pope should expect an attack.
also
"If we have free will then god isn't all powerful" is not logically correct.
yes it is. If we have free will, than that means we, not god, decide our actions. As such god does not have control over us and as such is not all powerful
[–]yesukai 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Hmm. You could just hope that it isn't in "God's Plan" to have someone shoot you? Or does such a thing not exist if we have free will? Come to think of it, if we have free will such that God really can't keep the Pope from getting shot, what exactly does that guy do around here?
If God gave us free will then why do people thank god when scientists work hard to come up for cures for diseases? Or when doctors work their asses off to help us recover? How about when any person comes to your aid?
[–]gstatty -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago
Somewhere in the bible it says God only helps those that help themselves. The pope and Catholic church sure as hell do that. But I guess so do corporations.
[–]5k3k73k 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Somewhere in the bible it says God only helps those that help themselves
Actually it doesn't say that anywhere in the Bible. It's from a bumber sticker or something.
[–]Arbybeay -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago
I say: Even better than the original!
Christians say: He wants to stay on the Earth to continue spreading the good that is Christianity!
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago
That bulletproof glass has a reverse phycological effect on me. I didn't want to kill the pope before I saw him behind the glass (I never even thought about it), but now I'd love to shoot that fucking pedophile in right in the face.
[–]420chan_spy -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago
If I deserved to get shot I'd protect myself behind bulletproof glass too.
[–]Lots42 -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago
They would say 'God brought us the bullet proof glass"
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