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[–]melteddali 124 points125 points ago

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I think context is what truly makes something offensive. This is our subreddit. If we want to post funny pictures of Jesus, Mohammad, and Buddha that's our perogative and of no consequence if the wandering theist gets offended. Now crossposting said pictures into their sub-reddits is what I would have a problem with. There's a time and a place for everything. We should be able to make fun of what we want here but we don't have to rub stuff like that in their face on their own turf.

[–]Burke_Of_Yorkshire 117 points118 points ago

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As a christian redditor, I do not subscribe to r/Christianity because those guys cannot take a joke. This thing is fucking hilarious, the only thing I take offense to in this post that it is a repost

[–]SpinningHead 49 points50 points ago

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As an atheist, Im more offended by that movie's existence. It takes a decent teacher of ethics and throws him under the bus in favor of 2hrs worth of evangelical blood-porn that ultimately blames the Jews for killing their god.

[–]Burke_Of_Yorkshire 14 points15 points ago

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I started to type a response, but then I realized it was getting overly religious. The temptation is killing me

[–]SpinningHead 19 points20 points ago

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Why? If anything, Im sticking up for Jesus against crazed followers who missed the entire point.

[–]Burke_Of_Yorkshire 9 points10 points ago

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I realized I cannot say anything religious over the internet without sounding like an asshole. I think it is nearly impossible

[–]SpinningHead 7 points8 points ago

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OK, now you're just trying to get me to drag it out of you. Were you going to call Mel Gibson the 2nd coming?

[–]Burke_Of_Yorkshire 12 points13 points ago

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Oh, no that guy is a fucking asshole. He embarrasses his entire existence. What I was going to say was that, according to the bible, Jews did not kill jesus, it was instead the wickedness of men

[–]Ciserus 12 points13 points ago

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That's your interpretation as a modern, liberal Christian. It has not been the interpretation of the vast majority of Christians throughout history.

And you've got to admit Matthew 27:25 and the surrounding chapters are tricky to read any other way.

In fact, biblical scholars (that is, academic ones, not the ones with a religious agenda) have noted that the entirety of the trial and crucifixion scenes in the gospels appears to have been written to shift blame off of the Romans and onto the Jews. It's absurd to imagine, for example, that a Roman Prefect, and especially a particularly brutal one like Pilate, would really have let himself be pushed into executing a prisoner by the puny people he oversaw. He would have executed Jesus at the first sign of sedition, executed everyone he associated with, executed a few more people after lunch, and not lost a wink of sleep over it. The writers of the gospels clearly and deliberately placed the blame on the Jews because they didn't want to piss off the Romans any further by accusing them of killing the Messiah.

[–]OGrilla 2 points3 points ago

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I'm an educated former Christian and I don't believe I've ever read this before. Thanks for the perspective shift.

[–]Teotwawki69 0 points1 point ago

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And I'm sure that the truth was thoroughly shoved under the rug once Constantine finally adopted Christianity as the official state religion. "Why, we can't have us as the villains. What about the Jews?"

I'm sure that a lot of it early on also came out of Christianity having started out as a Jewish sect, and so there was incentive to bash the source religion that didn't play catch up. "We're right and they're wrong. And you know how wrong they are? They killed Jesus!"

[–]SpinningHead 8 points9 points ago

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Well, more to the point, Mel was inspired by Medieval passion plays that had a particular interest in blaming Jews for killing Jesus.

[–]JoeBobson 0 points1 point ago

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Uh, no. According to the bible, the Romans killed Jesus. It was pretty clear on that.

[–]Teotwawki69 0 points1 point ago

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The Romans carried out the sentence, but it's because the High Priest and Company finally get pissed off enough at Jesus' shenanigans to demand it. But see Ciserus's comment, above -- this version of history really doesn't hold water when compared to the political dynamics of the time. At the very most, the Jews might have turned Jesus over to Pilate, but only in the sense of, "This is the dude you've been looking for."

[–]Teotwawki69 0 points1 point ago

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...and those Pesky Romans.

[–]justanotherwiseass 0 points1 point ago

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another +1 for the internet?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago

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The entire point? The entire "point" of Jesus according to the bible is to come into the world, live a perfect life, and ultimately suffer physically and mentally on the cross in payment for mankind's sins. The movie captured the last aspect well.

[–]SpinningHead 4 points5 points ago

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The entire "point" of Jesus according to the bible is to come into the world, live a perfect life, and ultimately suffer physically and mentally on the cross in payment for mankind's sins.

That might the "point" in terms of fulfilling some ancient prophecy, but I don't think his ethical teachings were just about killing time. "Love thy neighbor and thyself, oh and btw, make sure you all catch my execution. If you havent seen a crucifixion, its quite a hoot. Besides, what Im saying now is irrelevant. What's important is you come and check out the super bloodbath that's just like the bloodbaths that the Romans regularly carry out against all sorts of people. They promise cat o' nine tails, thorny crowns, and lots of snacks." - WWE Jesus

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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Love thy neighbor as thyself? Jesus suffering and crucifixion is the perfect example of love. I don't understand how complete and total self sacrifice isn't in line with Jesus' ethical teachings.

[–]SpinningHead 12 points13 points ago*

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Self-sacrifice is in line with his beliefs, watching 2 hours of torture porn is not. If you want to understand Socrates, do you read the philosophy that has been ascribed to him by his pupils or do you watch a gruesome documentary on the pathology of hemlock poisoning?

[–]Teotwawki69 0 points1 point ago

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Early Christianity and Catholicism focused on the crucifixion, though -- it was Jesus' suffering that was important to them. It was the Protestants later on, and not really until probably the 19th Century, that the resurrection became the more important part.

Now, Mel Gibson is a member of an extremely conservative Catholic sect, so to them, the whole point is exactly the torture porn that was The Passion of the Christ.

[–]SpinningHead 0 points1 point ago

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Now, Mel Gibson is a member of an extremely conservative Catholic sect, so to them, the whole point is exactly the torture porn that was The Passion of the Christ.

Yes, the fact that it appeals to fans of WWE and to people like Gibson who start their own church because they find the Vatican too liberal only backs up my point.

[–]imro 2 points3 points ago

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This movie was true to catholic doctrine, at least for where I am from. And I did not see anything (except it being more graphical) that I have not seen in another movie about Christ or heard during my upbringing. So I was pretty surprised to hear these accusations that Mel Gibson made things up. So I would like to ask more learned redditors to show some examples of Mel going out of his way and not adhering to bible when it came to blaming Jews. And please do not take it as me challenging the claims, but more so me willing to learn while being lazy to do my own research.

[–]SpinningHead 1 point2 points ago

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There is little about the actual crucifixion as compared to his teachings in the NT. Here is some info on one of the early passion plays. Also, from a Catholic perspective, Vatican II ruled that neither Jews during Jesus time nor Jews today should be held responsible for the death of Jesus. Frankly, it would be like blaming all Greeks for the death of Socrates.

[–]rgliszin 1 point2 points ago

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damn dude. spot on. up-vote for you.

[–]slumsquirrel 3 points4 points ago

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I'd kill a dude too if he came in destroying my temples, blaspheming my beliefs, and telling me I'm going to hell if I don't join his cause. Its definitely not the same as christians saying the same thing to us we're just trying to get our point acr...oh wait irony.

[–]ok_you_win 2 points3 points ago

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I used to hang out in a forum dominated by atheists. The forum wasnt actually focused on religion, and our domination was resented by the few Christians. Understandably they attempted to mitigate our influence by proselytizing their viewpoint.

One of the fundamentalists actually paid us a great compliment when he said to a new member: "The atheists here sure can dish it out, but thats ok, they are willing to take it too."

Roughly paraphrased.

I think thats similar to what you are saying. We dont take offence or get in a huff when our values are challenged. But we dont think anyone else should either.

But anyway. We only have one life to live, so lets laugh through it, shall we? After all, Jesus didnt cry over his fate. (Well, maybe a little at the end there). But Christians shouldnt do his crying for him.

[–]bashobt[S] 5 points6 points ago

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I figured it had probably been reposted 400 million times but I had personally not seen it. post the link so the original person can have some credit.

[–]marievska 1 point2 points ago

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As a Christian redditor subscribed to r/Christianity, I also found this picture funny, but I don't think it has its place in r/Christianity.

[–]MonsieurD 0 points1 point ago

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"...religion, which in turn is the official enemy of all humor." -Chris Hitchens.

Forgive me if it's not from him originally

[–]JoeBobson 0 points1 point ago

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RES tagged - "loves the sinner, hates the repost."

[–]Flat_lander 2 points3 points ago

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My christian friend didn't think this was funny but thought the racist Tshirt model today was hilarious.... Oh the hypocrisy!

[–]YouSoCrayCray 6 points7 points ago

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I agree with you, but at the same time - does this mean the KKK can burn crosses as long as they do it in their own front yard?

[–]redditlovesfish 28 points29 points ago

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of course

[–]scarecrowslayer 12 points13 points ago

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It is freedom of expression, as long as you aren't protesting banks you have that right.

[–]melteddali 1 point2 points ago

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As reprehensible as I consider them to be that is protected under free speech. It its their own property and they aren't breaking any fire codes then yes they are by law allowed to do so.

[–]zacharyalexstern 1 point2 points ago

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Uh . . . yes? Duh.

[–]AlienEye 1 point2 points ago

It's a picture of a suffering man. If you posted a starving child with superimposed text saying "The Real Hunger Games" or some other dumbassery, you wouldn't think twice before downvoting it.

I'm not saying you shouldn't find it funny - that's entirely your business. Just don't use atheist context as your excuse. Atheists generally take a humanist stance and are just as capable of taking offence at this as "wandering theists" are.

On a side note, /r/atheism is not a subreddit for atheists but for discussion on atheism, agnosticism and secular living.

[–]melteddali 1 point2 points ago

I've actually changed my opinion since I made this post. I wont delete it but I no longer think this is funny and I'm ashamed to have supported this line of thought. Im no longer subscribed to /r/atheism either (incredible what changes can occur in 5 months).

[–]AlienEye 1 point2 points ago

Oh, wow. 5 months? I thought it was a week for some reason. This is getting near the cutoff date.

Anyway, good on ya, mate. Hope whatever change took place was for the better.

[–]tornation 2 points3 points ago

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This is nearly the entire content of the front page of /r/atheism in one image. Why nearly? 4 of the links were actual text.. but none of the 25 were links to actual information or articles.

Why is a subreddit consisting of predominantly pictures/comics/memes (that would be considered hate speech if it were about [race/gender/sexual orientation]) be included in the default front page?

It's essentially become mindless entertainment, like most of the default front page (unfortunately), but its infusion of hate and intolerance makes it slightly different... these specific characteristics should be reason enough to exclude it from being on the default front page of reddit.

Forget that it's mostly just rage comics and image macros, forget that it's basically hate speech that wouldn't be tolerated if the topic was altered slightly...

what I, as an atheist (since long before reddit was around), find the most obnoxious, is the fact that I never saw religion (and all the negativity that comes along with it) mentioned on the default front page as much as after /r/atheism was included. I get sick of the witch-hunt/mob-justice/us-vs-them/persecution complex type mentality that seems to completely saturate every element of that subreddit.

In my eyes, it's really no different than if /r/christianity was on the default front page and I had to see threads about how I'm going to hell all the time.

just an observation of /r/christianity — lots of self posts, 3 images: 1 from /r/atheism, 1 with 0 points, and 1 of a painting. nothing mentioning how stupid nonbelievers are, or even other religions. quite the contrast.

Yes, I know someone is going to point out that I can just unsubscribe. I was never subscribed, but I don't always sign in. Not only that, many of the porn subreddits have more subscribers than /r/atheism. Why aren't they default front page subreddits?

And really... in the spirit of equality, if you're going to give the anti-religious a platform for exposure, why not the religious as well? At the very least you could allow the most popular religion-based sub on the default front page. Otherwise, you're subjugating them to the same kind of treatment you criticize them for in the first place. Or...

Keep ALL subreddits related to religion (including criticism of it) as opt-in rather than default, and at the same time help the site maintain some of its dignity.

[–]ivosaurus 1 point2 points ago

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What would you like us to discuss? What do you think all our self posts should be about?

Tell me what to do, and I shall make it so!

[–]Cituke 2 points3 points ago

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Why nearly? 4 of the links were actual text.. but none of the 25 were links to actual information or articles.

That's how reddit works, and guess what, you're probably not helping.

People upvote funny pictures because that's what they're here for. Most lengthy text submissions are long diatribes that could be summed in 2 sentences and hence most redditors see this as a much riskier investment of time compared to a 5 second laugh. Hence you get a lot more views and a lot more votes on 5 second submissions.

You don't seem to be helping this by making good submissions or aggressivly voting. I make good substantive submissions roughly every 4-5 days. Did you upvote any of them? Add to the discussion at all? No?

Well you're complaining about how the sink is full but refuse to do any of your dishes.

[race/gender/sexual orientation]

race, gender, and sexual orientation have nothing to do with factual claims or choices (mostly). They're not preposterous beliefs either. You could insert "Making fun of alchemists is just as bad as the protocols of the elders of zion!" and it would make as much sense.

Not only that, many of the porn subreddits have more subscribers than /r/atheism. Why aren't they default front page subreddits?

That's not the only number considered. The main consideration is activity which includes submissions, posting, views etc.

And really... in the spirit of equality, if you're going to give the anti-religious a platform for exposure, why not the religious as well? At the very least you could allow the most popular religion-based sub on the default front page.

May as well ask trees to start making submissions about how marijuana should be illegal.

some of its dignity.

Fuck off you condescending prick.

[–]GMNightmare 2 points3 points ago

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Throwaway account... religious hatemonger? Or just know what you are saying is complete BS?

4 of the links were actual text.. but none of the 25 were links to actual information or articles.

So what?

Why is your post not linking to actual information or articles?

You ever think a picture is worth more than pathetic words?

Why is a subreddit consisting of predominantly pictures/comics/memes (that would be considered hate speech if it were about [race/gender/sexual orientation]) be included in the default front page?

Why not?

Do you think other subreddits are much better? Whiners and complainers like yourself do the exact same BS in every single subreddit.

It's not hate speech. It does not qualify as hate speech. It is not even close to being hate speech. If you think so, you really don't know what hate speech is.

It's essentially become mindless entertainment

So what?

like most of the default front page (unfortunately)

Well then what is your point? Why aren't you complaining everywhere else as well?

but its infusion of hate and intolerance makes it slightly different..

No, it isn't. You don't know what hate and intolerance is. The only intolerant one around here is you, the one who can't handle r/atheism as a front page.

as an atheist (since long before reddit was around)

Care factor 0. That you even think that gives you any authority makes me question its validity.

is the fact that I never saw religion (and all the negativity that comes along with it) mentioned on the default front page as much as after /r/atheism was included

Good for you. If it's too much block it and stop crying about it.

I get sick of the witch-hunt/mob-justice/us-vs-them/persecution complex type mentality that seems to completely saturate every element of that subreddit.

Hypocrite.

And it doesn't happen. We make fun of beliefs, not people. It's different.

In my eyes, it's really no different than if /r/christianity was on the default front page and I had to see threads about how I'm going to hell all the time.

You really can't tell the difference? Wow. You know what? That's pathetic. Come back when you learn the difference between a belief and a person.

just an observation of /r/christianity

Good for it. Stay there if you like it so much.

It's also less than 1% of the size, you ever take that into consideration?

porn subreddits have more subscribers than /r/atheism. Why aren't they default front page subreddits?

Legal reasons. Duh. Your age must be verified for mature content which means you must be signed in. That was just stupid.

in the spirit of equality, if you're going to give the anti-religious a platform for exposure, why not the religious as well

This is not anti-religious.

They all have their own subreddits.

If they become one of the top, then they'd get a spot as well.

you're subjugating them to the same kind of treatment you criticize them for in the first place

You really are high on the sauce... get a grip. What do we criticize them for that would even apply here?

Also, we aren't reddit itself, and have no control over it. That's really just pathetic that you think we do.

...

You're post basically amounts to "shut up atheists", how dare we speak our minds! Well, no, and screw you for that.

[–]jaehaerys 0 points1 point ago

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That was a grossly oversimplified summary of what he posted about. He raised a bunch of valid points, you simply disagreed with them so you felt it was easier to say "HEY STOP RAGGING ON OUR FUNNY SCUMBAG CHRISTIAN MEME IMAGES YOU INTOLERANT JERK! JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW PERSECUTED AND MISUNDERSTOOD WE ARE, AMIRITE GUYS?" instead of saying anything substantive.

[–]GMNightmare 1 point2 points ago

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The was nothing oversimplified about it. I directly countered every one of his points.

And none of them were valid, at all.

But you're nothing but a hypocrite. Here, let's respond in kind to your kind of response:

That was grossly oversimplified summary of what I posted about. I raised a bunch of valid points, you simple disagreed with them so you felt it was easier to say "HEY STOP RAGGING ON OUR COMPLAINING YOU INTOLERANT JERK! JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW PERSECUTED AND MISUNDERSTOOD WE ARE, AMIRITE GUYS?" instead of saying anything substantive.

[–]CaptainFil 0 points1 point ago

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This.

[–]CaptainFil 0 points1 point ago

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This.

[–]melteddali 0 points1 point ago

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I don't consider stupid Jesus jokes to be hate speech. Race, sexual orientation, and gender are core biological elements one cannot change. (with the exception to gender) Religion is more of something one subscribes to and lives their lives by, a philosophy really. Is it a hate crime for me to say "nihilism is stupid and people who follow it are overly cynical to the point of hilarity"? It's no more of a hate crime to make a stupid image macro than it is to make a stupid joke about men refusing to stop for directions or women harping on unimportant details. Most of us don't hate christians. Most of us recognize the good many religious organizations do in the world. However this subreddit exists as a place where people can speak their mind freely about religion and their lack of it and if its overly negative then you might want to consider what that says about the amount of religious strife going on in America and the rest of the world.

Keep in mind you have the option to unsubscribe from r/atheism and never have it hit your front page again. The reason you're subscribed to it now is that it hit a certain amount of subscribers that it became big enough to automatically hit the front. Thats what I'd do if r/christianity hit the fron or r/Islam and I wouldn't go in their threads and on their forum to bitch about them being there in the first place.

r/christianity is a different place with a more reverent atmosphere. Here nothing is sacred so you have to expect more jokes, gag posts, and macros. That being said there are quite a few self posts every week about personal experiences and some made by christians wanting discussion. Every now and then we get news items (frequently American politics) and there's discussion centered around that.

The reason those porn sub reddits aren't on the front page is due to content. Reddit maintains itself as a PG 13 website and to go to the porn parts you have to click a box verifying you are over 18 years of age. It's not that hard to see why reddit legally can't make those subreddits default (unless they want the whole site to become 18 years old and up).

The religious have a platform for exposure though. No one is blocking r/christianity or r/Islam. A quick search will lead you directly to them. The reason they aren't up on the front is they don't have as much subscribers. If you want to see them up then go subscribe to them yourself an boost their numbers. Recruit people to those subreddits if you want. Putting the most popular religion on the front page in response to atheism on the front page is hardly fair to the other religions though and isnt in the spirit of equality that you say it is. You're making mountains out of molehills.

Reddit is an open user website and lets the members choose what they want to see. Censoring one board that got to the front fairly because some peoples sensitivities can't handle it would be the exact opposite of what this website is about. If you hate this subreddit then click one red bar on the right sidebar and you wont have to deal with it ever again.

One last note why are you complaining to me about this. I can't do anything about it even I wanted to. Go complain to the company. There's a contact button on the bottom of the page under "about." Go take your bitching to them.

[–]dontpushthatbutton 191 points192 points ago

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OMG that was the best image ive seen all day. upvotes for you sir!

[–]RupertDurden 5 points6 points ago

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OMG that was the best image ive seen all day. upvotes for you sir!

OMG? I think you may be in the wrong sub-reddit.

[–]dontpushthatbutton 2 points3 points ago

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I thought you were being an asshole, then i got the joke!

[–]bashobt[S] 28 points29 points ago

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why thank you ever so much.

[–]Wanhope 0 points1 point ago

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I was just waiting for my favourite to turn up, you delivered.

[–]sonic911 10 points11 points ago

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oh my fucking god i dont think ive ever laughed out loud so hard at a picture before hhahahahaha

[–]Dengar 28 points29 points ago

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Former Digger, eh?

[–]nighthief 12 points13 points ago

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One of OP's alts

[–]bashobt[S] 5 points6 points ago

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cute.

[–]szhaddad 4 points5 points ago

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i could almost hear the intro music... HAHAHHAHA

[–]gatoradeenjoyer 2 points3 points ago

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I second that. I imagined steve-o and johnny knoxville right behind him laughing

[–]Molassesfatts 49 points50 points ago

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as a christian, i found this fucking hilarious.

[–]bashobt[S] 59 points60 points ago

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A christian? no way. Do an AMA!

[–]druumer89 50 points51 points ago

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IAMA christian who's not offended at every poke at my irrational faith. I am the .001 percent. AMA

[–]bashobt[S] 19 points20 points ago

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maybe we should put away the poker and grab the jabber. There is always time to give up your superstitions.

[–]kagayaki 7 points8 points ago

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Which makes me wonder if you agree with us that much (all?) of your faith is irrational, what causes you to still believe?

[–]GameEagle 12 points13 points ago

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the Christian poster didn't actually say that...

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I like the edgy-hip Christians that likes to swear and not capitalize "Christian". It shows they are relatable and totally fit in anywhere.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Indie Rock 4 Lyfe.

[–]beetleguise 2 points3 points ago

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I think its odd how many christians come on this subreddit to profess that they are: 1) christian; 2) cool enough to hang with us; and/or 3) enlightened enough to believe in (some) scientific principles. I picture this kid grown up and saying, "Hey guys, I am cool too."

[–]leafers71 0 points1 point ago

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Would you not want to promote christians viewing this subreddit to try to show them how their theory is incorrect? I think you are a douche.

[–]beetleguise 0 points1 point ago

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While it is enjoyable to sit on a throne of judgement and throw down on religious beliefs - such as your catholicism - I am solely commenting on the phenomenon of certain religious people being completely oblivious to their own hypocrisy.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for religious peeps, such as yourself, viewing this subreddit but its not like all the atheists here are going to be friendly with you fucks. It doesn't make religious people worldly or sophisticated to come and post on this subreddit. I don't care about how they are religious but still "get us". Fuck that shit. Sure, it may eventually open your mind to a secular realization, but until that time, I won't pull any punches. You hoser

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[–]Sdingel 14 points15 points ago

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This is mild did you see the one of Christ fucking himself?

[–]markycapone 29 points30 points ago

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Jesus Fucking Christ

[–]FourthReichsFuhrer 16 points17 points ago

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[–]TaffyMonster 4 points5 points ago

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I laughed out loud. Probably because I wasn't expecting that, nor had I thought of that play on words. ^ for you!!

[–]whatdevilslavemaster 2 points3 points ago

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Wow even that's funny, I guess Jesus can't do anything wrong!

[–]stopmotionporn 2 points3 points ago

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Thats the joke, yes.

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[–]JeffMo 4 points5 points ago

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He's talking about a particular pic.

[–]WorkingMouse 18 points19 points ago

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On that note, a comedian's take on offense.

[–]the_sun_god 15 points16 points ago

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Stephen Fry's take on offense.

[–]WorkingMouse 1 point2 points ago

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Aaaaaand saved.

Thanks; I'd never heard this one!

[–]tkagotquants 7 points8 points ago

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Gotta love Hughes!

"...and I was offended and when I woke up - I had leprosy!"

"Grow up! Deal with it!"

[–]WorkingMouse 7 points8 points ago

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Ah, the leprosy is deeply amusing - though I must admit, it's the last bit that really gets me.

"Hello. It's me again."

[–]tkagotquants 6 points7 points ago

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"...They're on the telly this time."

I love his bit about how straight is the new gay.

[–]WorkingMouse 0 points1 point ago

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Oh goodness yes; as a proud-if-celibate bisexual, it's a delightful take.

[–]acemnorsuvwxz 2 points3 points ago

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Offense is the vestige of demanding satisfaction.

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"Things you cannot show to your religious parents."

[–]KingBeetle 8 points9 points ago

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You guys have such a weird relationship with things you don't believe.

[–]HANDSTAND69 2 points3 points ago

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HEHEHE because that's what the guy says on the tv show!

[–]superstarcrasher 2 points3 points ago

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Old.

[–]Lcar210 2 points3 points ago

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You people smart. I no know much words.

[–]thingsyoutellyourcat 2 points3 points ago

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What would be civil about being offensive

[–]Rocketlauncherboy 2 points3 points ago*

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I don't care who objects, cause I lol'd at this. Just like the jack-ass guys, jesus didn't need to do this. But they did it anyway for the sake of mankind. They did it for us for our sins and entertainment.

[–]okayyeah 2 points3 points ago

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Too bad things like this are on r/all for the casual outside observer to unfortunately stumble on to.

[–]bashobt[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I don't think it was.

edit. Never mind.

[–]Banderson621 2 points3 points ago

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Jesus? I thought it was Chad Kroeger!

[–]oD3 2 points3 points ago

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A good way for Christians to deal with offensive posts is to ask themselves: "would Jesus find this funny?"

Yes. He would by the way.

[–]charlieyoke 2 points3 points ago

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Hilarious!

[–]ur_opinion_is_wrong 2 points3 points ago

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I actually LOL'd irl and pretty heartily too. Good job

[–]kookman 2 points3 points ago

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dude if i knew where mel gibson was id be down on the floor licking his balls at this very moment

[–]bashobt[S] 1 point2 points ago

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ok. i'll write that down.

[–]altshiftM 2 points3 points ago

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I may be going to hell, but at least I wont be alone laughing my way on the way down.

[–]choooo 2 points3 points ago

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dew dew dew di dewwwww

[–]gmccale 2 points3 points ago

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beer deer deer deer

[–]p3ng0 2 points3 points ago

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Tom Green

[–]wayndom 2 points3 points ago

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That was not only funny, bet clever to the point of being elegant. bashobt, if you came up with, "welcome to jackass" you're a comic genius.

[–]bashobt[S] 0 points1 point ago

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did not. credit belongs somewhere else.

[–]wayndom 1 point2 points ago

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well thanks for posting it!

[–]Jamotron 2 points3 points ago

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There are no offensive images, only offended people!

[–]smcirish 2 points3 points ago

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I'm not religious anymore but this picture is still sad. something about seeing a man covered in blood surrounded by men laughing just bums me out. Where's my sense of humour??

[–]fuck_pants 0 points1 point ago

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Eat more babies, that should do the trick.

[–]Razorwire_Dave 0 points1 point ago

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Works for me!

[–]bashobt[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I think it's the fact that something so taboo is being ridiculed mercilessly that some peoples brains have snapped in half.

[–]cavortingwebeasties 2 points3 points ago

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Did anyone else hear the Jackass opening riff after reading that?

[–][deleted] 42 points43 points ago

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Offensive pictures? Where? First I would need to know what offensive means. Considering taking offence is fairly subjective, it's not possible for me to know in advance what others will find offensive. So you're asking me if it's possible to be civil with offensive pics. No, it is not.

If people are offended by what they see or hear, that's theirs to deal with. Being offended has no bearings whatsoever in a debate who should not be taken into account when presenting arguments.

Besides if your faith is shaken by words or images mocking an idol or a philosophy, your religion clearly doesn't have a leg to stand on. When people start criticising or mocking science, scientists aren't up in arms, they just point the flaws in your "arguments" and show you hard evidence from the study they made.

TL;DR: I think and say "Fuck god", what are you going to do about it?

[–]IWatchWormsHaveSex 8 points9 points ago

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That only works if you're talking about a discussion between people who aren't using (or taking anything to mean) personal attacks. If I'm debating with a religious person about religion and my atheism, and all they can say in response to me is "Oh yeah? Well, you're stupid!", that's an offensive thing to say (although the right thing to do would probably be to disregard it). A lot of religious people feel that when someone questions their beliefs, it's a personal attack on them, often because they define themselves by their belief. This often makes it extremely hard to have an intelligent discussion about religion with them, but how are you going to stop them? It's the same as if someone was trying to explain to you that your mother is fat and stupid. Your mother may very well be fat and stupid, and the person may be explaining this to you as rationally as possible, but if you love and care about your mother and had never thought of her that way, you'd be hard-pressed not to take it personally. That's not to say that we shouldn't have discussions with religious people about why we don't share their beliefs, but this is why they often get offended.

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tl;dr: i say fuck god (on the internet), what are you going to do about it?

[–]palparepa 5 points6 points ago

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taking offence is fairly subjective

Of course, being a heathen, you have no God to give you understanding about absolute offensiveness.

[–]Epicman 15 points16 points ago

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Um...I think you missed the point....

[–]Smallpaul 1 point2 points ago

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I'm a vocal anti-theist. But it's bizarre to me that you think that this is offensive because it shakes people's faith.

Christians are in love with Jesus. Imagine you are in love with someone and you see an extremely disrespectful depiction. How would you feel? Would it "shake your faith" in that person or just piss you off?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Christians are in love with Jesus.

I love peanut butter. If people started to say "Peanut butter is actually dog shit, that's why it's brown" I'd laugh in their face. Because I would think for a nanosecond about it and then see it's bullshit (and probably shove a spoonful of peanut butter down my mouth).

I stand by my point, if other people's opinion can sway a believe, then your belief is fairly weak. Other people can challenge your ideas and make you think about your stance, but the only reason you could be angry (and not offended) is at yourself for being wrong (if you happen to be).

In the end I think that "stick and stones" is something people shouldn't forget so easily.

Besides, I tend to fall in love with people I can see and be in physical contact with. If someone can get pissy because the person he only ever read about is questioned by others, that's their own problem, mot mine. I can't get angry at people for saying wonderwoman isn't real and I'll never get to bang her. Or if I did I'd be considered an idiot. Why should it be any different when it comes to people in love with Jesus?

[–]Smallpaul 0 points1 point ago

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You do not love peanut butter in the same sense that people love their spouses, children and deity. You're just playing a word game.

I stand by my point, if other people's opinion can sway a believe, then your belief is fairly weak.

You can stand by your point as much as you want. It remains an irrelevant point because having a "belief swayed" is not the only reason that people take offense. I already said this and provided an analogy to demonstrate it. You provided a counter analogy, so it seemed that you understood the point. But then you went back to the irrelevant point.

the only reason you could be angry (and not offended) is at yourself for being wrong (if you happen to be).

So if someone emails me a photoshopped picture of my daughter being gang raped, you're saying that the only reason I could be angry is because it shakes my faith that ... What ... My daughter exists?

Besides, I tend to fall in love with people I can see and be in physical contact with.

Yes, well that's a what makes you an atheist. We're talking about theists and how their emotions work. Not how your emotions work. Your emotions are irrelevant to this discussion.

You seem to think that I am saying that you are wrong to post offensive, blasphemous posts. I did not say that. Rather, I said that you are entirely wrong in saying that the ONLY reason that such a post would be offensive is because if "shakes someone's faith." This displays a shocking ignorance of human psychology -- or at least the psychology of theists.

When you compare a Christian's love for Jesus to your love for peanut butter or wonder woman, you just emphasize your own ignorance of their psychology. Nobody has ever been martyred because they refused to deny their love of wonder woman or peanut butter.

[–]Nirgilis 1 point2 points ago

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Then my good sir, you are a freak of nature. What makes us different from other species are the enhanced social capabilities we have developed to sustain our society. This allowed us to develop our civilization. Which you would obivously know if you have read into evolution. And of course, this image is NOT an argument!

So cool story bro, but either you have no friends and your family is disgusted by you because you have no sense of when to say something or not, or you are being the oh so cool internet hero who claims to be something he's not. Either way, poor you.

For me personally, this pictures is not offensive, but i find it needlessly offensive to those who actually think Jesus is our saviour. Atheist usually claim to be the rational, where religious people are thought of as generally not thinking. This picture serves no end in the atheistic community beside being funny because it shocks religious people. This does not help the atheistic cause and is precisely what we despise about religious people not having respect for people with other/a lack of beleifs.

[–]mdoggdx316 0 points1 point ago

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This picture serves no end in the atheistic community beside being funny because it shocks religious people.

That's the whole...point.

[–]GraduallyReligious 1 point2 points ago

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You have to understand that things like religion are embedded very deep within the psyche of those who hold such beliefs. Indeed, one might say they are the only pure thing in the world, and to see that defiled hurts them in a distinct way.

What you're not realizing it, it's not helping. It's only going to further offend them. They'll circle the wagons and cast you out like a dirty atheist.

It's not a matter of having faith shaken, not in the least. My faith is strong that Jesus never was part of the show Jackass. In fact, he wouldn't watch it, and he's not to keen on you watching it, either!!!

Foolish children want to mock the lord on the internet!!! They take His name in vain and do not trust in His wisdom, and seem to imagine His son as some kind of.. some kind of... JACKBUTT!!!

That's why it's offensive! How would you feel if a bunch of jews murdered your son and then people on the internet went and made posts MOCKING HNINM ADS IF HE DID IT FOR ATTENTIOSON??????????

You say "Fuck God?" Hahahahahah! I'kll LAUGH as you say PLEASE GOD< SAVE ME, and GOD will say, frick YoU BARBAPOLOSSA!!!!! DO YOUN EVEN KNWO HWO LONG ETENRITY IS? A LOHNJG TIME TO BURN! HAHAHAH! SICK ATHESISTS BURN WHILE I LAUGH!!!!

[–]Petrolfox 11 points12 points ago

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I definitely skimmed this and thought at the end you were threatening to burn my Mahjong tiles.

[–]erisdiscordia 2 points3 points ago

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It's no coincidence that "GraduallyReligious" rhymes with "magically delicious." Keep on trucking!

[–]AnswersWithAQuestion 1 point2 points ago

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lol true. There is a lot of potential with this novelty account to troll r/atheism.

[–]DrDPants 4 points5 points ago

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That was like watching a hit of meth kick in.

[–]GraduallyReligious 3 points4 points ago

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Methamphetamine ruins lives, kid. If you've seen someone take it, you should try and get them help, and if you speak firsthand... well, I'll pray for you.

There are other ways to get 'high' that don't carry such risks. Take for instance, worship. When you feel the spirit of the Lord within you, there will be a great warmth and a great rush of euphoria, and you will raise your hands to the heavens and shout LORD!! I am WITH you! I feel you inside of me and I want more!

Give me your love, Lord, for I can take it, I can take all you give and then some, and as the joy of the Lord builds within you, your ecstatic cries grow louder and stronger, until you just can't take it anymore, and you spill your praise for Jesus all over the room!!!

Who needs meth when we have GOD??? God can make you feel good! Methamphetamines are a false GOD invented by illuminati for sending bad little boys HELLBOUND even faster!! Why do you think it ruins teeth??? How can teeth stay PURE without Jesus???

[–]dblagbro 1 point2 points ago

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Jesus never was part of the show Jackass

... he also wasn't the white hippie looking character most christians paint him to be.

You shouldn't be offended because that guy looks NOTHING like the jesus that christians worship.

[–]bashobt[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I always wondered about that 'burn in hell' I see and hear sometimes. To a christian burning in hell is the worst torture imaginable forever and condemning some to that imaginary place means that for you to be raped, tortured, maimed, diseased, have your family killed in front of you, or any other horrible thing that could happen is not enough. You deserve worse than all that.

And they say it so casually too.

[–]dblagbro 0 points1 point ago

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Jesus never was part of the show Jackass

... he also wasn't the white hippie looking character most christians paint him to be.

You shouldn't be offended because that guy looks NOTHING like the jesus that christians worship.

[–]CaptainFil 0 points1 point ago

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I'm thinking this is a Poe but if it's not - get fucked - simply put people don't come to /r/atheism to try to convert religious people or tip toe around their feelings like a lot us have to in real life.

I'm from the UK so I'm lucky in that I have never had to deal with fundamentalists but others are not so lucky and /r/atheism is their refuge and their place to vent.

If you get offended by seeing people take the piss out of you ridiculous beliefs then you can A. change them or B. stop coming to /r/atheism.

I just want to add that when I saw the jesus jackass pic I giggled like a little girl because it fucking hilarious!

[–]GraduallyReligious 3 points4 points ago

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I thought the purpose of this subreddit was to be helpful? Instead it's just about promoting hate and teasing those you disagree with?

How is that good? How does that make you feel better than us?

Why should I even care what you think? You're from some weird little country, while I am from gods chosen land. America.

And yes, I am offended, but it's not me you should worry about. It's GOD. He is watching you, as you type now, probably stroking yourself to the redtubes in another tab. And he is angry, oh is he angry, he has eyes of hate and a beard of fire because the children he so LOVES are being corrupted to the point where there is no good left in them and they are only good for the incinerating fires of hell!

I'll come to r/atheism all I weant becaus eyou shouldbnt even have a forum to spread your childish stupiud ignorant lies about God, you're super smug now but whose gonna rtbe l;aughing when the HELLFIRE comsumes you? ME!!! AND GOD! HAHA!

I will n ever stop posting until I save EYVERY soul on this wretched boarsd yiu all need Jesus Jesus loves you JEsus can help you overcome youyr sutpid bitter asthesism I CANKOT let anyone see hellifre so long as I draw breath except for YOU CaptainFil, or as I should say, sernvant of LUCIFER!!!!!

[–]fenrisulfur 0 points1 point ago

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With your third sentence you gave yourself away. Not to mention you forgot to capitalize god, although you had lucifer all in caps sooooo..

[–]yourdadsbff 0 points1 point ago*

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If your god's really being such a creepy voyeur, then he can go fuck himself. And if he needs any help, I've got a few links I can send his way.

[–]CaptainFil 0 points1 point ago

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If your fake god loves me why would he laugh at me being in hell? Thats just another one of his plans that didn't work out I guess.

I'm not going to carry this on, this sub-Reddit is here to help, atheists looking for support or believers who have genuine questions.

You are clearly a Poe so i'll stop now, there is no point in continuing this.

[–]omfg_the_lings 0 points1 point ago

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lol, you almost successfully trolled, there, buddy. The "beard of fire" gave it away though

[–]Borealismeme 6 points7 points ago

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I already am being civil. Other people are being less than civil, but I suspect many of them have what they consider valid reasons for being less than civil. Why don't you try addressing the folks that post these pictures instead of cluttering up the new feed with rhetorical questions that will never be seen by the majority of people that view based on "what's hot"?

[–]NukeThePope 8 points9 points ago

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We can, but do we want to?

Please learn that appeals like yours are 100% ineffective. People will keep doing what they enjoy doing.

[–]Sonub 6 points7 points ago

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wooooosh

[–]bashobt[S] 8 points9 points ago

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I posted an offensive picture as well.

[–]NukeThePope 8 points9 points ago

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For science!

[–]freddred 7 points8 points ago

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The picture was funny and so is The Passion of Benny Hill

[–]frasoftw 4 points5 points ago

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This somewhat reminds me of "Draw Muhammad Day." Those were some pretty offensive pictures too... and half the front page wasn't crying about it.

[–]queenothing 1 point2 points ago

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fufufu

[–]abeanintheusa 1 point2 points ago

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I was in the library when I burst out laughing.

[–]ThePoonChaser 1 point2 points ago

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Oh lawdy, I do not feel bad for laughing at this picture one bit.

[–]magylo 1 point2 points ago

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Would we be upset if a similar photo depicted Santa in the same situation?

[–]Loreinatoredor 1 point2 points ago

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A picture like that cannot be offensive 100% of the time. Just because people say they are offended by something doesn't mean we can't do it, or show it. In many countries there are laws to say what is offensive so much of the time to so many that it cannot be shown or done.

[–]PullOutBoy 1 point2 points ago

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seeing this on reddit is the equivalent of that one kid in school who isn't afraid to say nigger or something.

[–]Permagrin 1 point2 points ago

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[–]Anticitizen-Zero 1 point2 points ago

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I find it funny because it's not really Jesus, nor is it really jackass.. But the thought is hilarious.

[–]Questica 1 point2 points ago

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Oh god this picture made me lol so hard XD

[–]arkain123 1 point2 points ago

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Am I the only person that thinks it looks like they're ready to run a train on Jesus?

[–]fluxaxion 1 point2 points ago

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"Hi I'm Jesus Christ, and I'm a jackass." FTFY

[–]enterence 1 point2 points ago

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As a Human being I take far more offense that gay people are being considered criminals and killed in Africa (Uganda particularly) because of the lobbying by some famous American Christians.

And the mainstream Christian community has not said anything about this.

And you to think about some people being more pissed off about a bloody picture... come on folks. especially Christian folks. what did your god tell you to do ? Go about bitching about pictures or show love ???

[–]Chriscbe 1 point2 points ago

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Fucking Hilarious!!!

[–]ultimaray 2 points3 points ago

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Best read in Johnny Knoxville's voice imo.. Fucking hilarious either way!

[–]rocopotomus 1 point2 points ago

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it's funny cause just like the guys of Jackass, (assuming that Jesus 1.existed and 2. was the son of God) he could call this off at ANY moment. Priceless

[–]EmptyComplete 4 points5 points ago

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Nailed it.

[–]DaMentalTeen 2 points3 points ago

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I sooooo read that in Johnny Knoxville's voice and almost laughed out loud right before class.

[–]alizpeptob 2 points3 points ago

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That's terrible!! Have an upvote you sonuvabitch :)

[–]FireKnightV 2 points3 points ago

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Have an upvote, you crazy mofo.

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[–]YellowOctopus 1 point2 points ago

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I think it's funny how people are so shocked and amazed crazy things like this happen when 4chan is down (it was last night while the pictures were being posted). I mean, clearly, we have to keep 4chan online if we're going to keep people's delicate sensibilities protected while they're on the internet.

[–]Batrok 1 point2 points ago

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Freedom of speech trumps Freedom of religion. At least for now. The way America is going, it might not be too long before freedom of speech gets tossed out the window too.

When that Dutch cartoonist started getting death threats over his cartoon of Mohammed, almost everyone agreed that those particular Muslims were over-reacting extremists. Christians, I'll make fun of your silly religion as much as I like, and there's dick all you, or your god can do about it.

[–]sonic911 1 point2 points ago

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i just made this my profile picture on facebook, just to see what people will say haha

[–]Arolighe 1 point2 points ago

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That's hilarious.

[–]spirit-fox 1 point2 points ago

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Fucking hilarious! I lol'd!

[–]permaximum 1 point2 points ago

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I fell out of my chair laughing at this

[–]knives_chow 1 point2 points ago

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Damn and blast! Anybody have a higher res version?

[–]Alterstatedego 1 point2 points ago

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"I'm not an atheist because atheism is a believe as well" -George Carlin

[–]IAMGodAMA 1 point2 points ago

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My Son has some explaining to do...

[–]Jackomo 1 point2 points ago

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This should have been posted in r/funny not /r/atheism, IMO.

[–]welltheresAbacon 1 point2 points ago

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I love this

[–]Svennusmax 1 point2 points ago

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Is that... is that Ryan Dunn playing Jesus?

[–]Istartedthefire 1 point2 points ago

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I AM SO OFFENDED THAT JESUS IS WHITE IN THIS PICTURE DAMMIT!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Knowing what I know about Jesus, I am willing to bet my eternal soul that if he really did exist and was the son of god, and his own father, and really divine, he would laugh at this picture as well.

[–]Giant_fish_bones 1 point2 points ago

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Dammit....they made me laugh

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[–]barium111 1 point2 points ago

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That was so fucking hilarious! :D

[–]runnin_drummin 1 point2 points ago

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hahaha

[–]keepclimbing 1 point2 points ago

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SHIT I LOL'D

[–]PossiblyTheDoctor 0 points1 point ago

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Oh no!

[–]empieta 1 point2 points ago

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Lovely!

[–]Yage2006 1 point2 points ago

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That is the most hilarious pic I have ever seen. Thanks for posting it :)

[–]virtyy 1 point2 points ago

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i like the part where he staples his balls to the cross

[–]Spuddups84 2 points3 points ago

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I haven't laughed that hard in ages thank you!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Honestly I mean say whatever you want, but you wonder why atheists don't have the best rap.

[–]bashobt[S] 2 points3 points ago

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and christians do?

[–]HelloImGod 2 points3 points ago

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Agreed! This is by far the best picture I've seen all day. lol Upvotes all day good sir

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hahahahahah this picture made my day!!! UPVOTED

[–]KittenMittens_ 0 points1 point ago

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That was one of the best I've seen, ever. Brilliant.

[–]awinnarisyou 3 points4 points ago*

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Make your own shit, this has been reposted over 9000 times.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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You are an idiot.

[–]bashobt[S] 1 point2 points ago

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You would think so, but actually no.