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How I feel when reddit tells me I can't possibly be an Arab Atheist that "Looks white". (i.imgur.com)
submitted 10 months ago by [deleted]
[–]BladeBloodchild 29 points30 points31 points 10 months ago
When did reddit tell you that you couldn't be Arab+atheist+light-skinned?
[–]Abaddon77 34 points35 points36 points 10 months ago
...Arab+atheist (ok) +light (lolwut) -skinned? (wtf NO SKIN?)
[–]BladeBloodchild -9 points-8 points-7 points 10 months ago
Hyphenated light and skinned. Easy mistake tho
[–]Mysackurchin 20 points21 points22 points 10 months ago
Jokes may not be your thing, my friend.
[–]ForgettableUsername 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
I am a joke!
[–]Mysackurchin 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Where's your bro-oche?
[–]BladeBloodchild -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago
Ummm...why am I downvoted for clearing up Abaddon77's misunderstanding of my question? Downvoting is supposed to be for posts that do not add to the discussion, and it seems that clarification would actually add to the conversation.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 10 months ago
Just look at my past submissions and comics. There's one about the arab culture in particular where throughout all the comics I'm accused of not existing or being a "Troll". I also have people in real life who constantly accuse me of lying.
[–]jonmwilson1979 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago*
So evidently, atheists can be racists too. One thing I didn't understand when I was 18/19 that I get better now is that the "races" are totally mixed all the world over. Not all African-descended people are purely African. And not all Semitic-descended people are purely Semitic. So, yeah, you're Arabic from an Arabic family that has blood in it from some place other than the middle east. Why would someone have a problem with that? And you're atheist. Fuck yeah! So, I agree with NPH.
EDIT: Forget the "atheists can be racists too" bit. While it's possible that may be true, it doesn't apply to this discussion.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
:) I just get frustrated sometimes you know though? Like I have to completely explain myself and I end up looking like a liar. And when I say I'm an atheist I get told "No, you're a muslim to us."
[–]jonmwilson1979 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
So first they don't believe you're Arabic cuz you look white. Then they don't believe you're atheist because you're Arabic. I hate when people are dumb.
[–]danxmason -2 points-1 points0 points 10 months ago
Where are these atheist racists you speak of?
[–]jonmwilson1979 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 months ago
I personally have never run across any, but it seems to me that SarBeat has. As a white atheist, the only race I ever tend to get pissed off about is my own. Historically speaking, white people have been absolutely terrible.
[–]danxmason 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago*
He SHE says some people don't believe that she is an atheist arab with light skin. She never said those people are atheists.
[–]jonmwilson1979 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
You know, you are right. She said reddit, and I just went with that being the atheist reddit. My bad.
...possibly because the atheist subreddit is the only reddit I ever visit. I have never stepped foot in other branches of the site.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
He says I'm a girl. Also, that's correct. It was usually non-atheists.
[–]Brodito 7 points8 points9 points 10 months ago
Well, I believed you up until this comment.
Athiest? Of course. Arab? sure. White skinned? Why not. Girl browsing reddit? Yea right, you troll.
[–]Kinky_Pinky 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
I might have never seen a racist atheist on reddit (I rarely read deeply into the comments), but I have met dozens of racist atheist IRL.
[–]Synackaon -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago
Historically speaking, white people have been absolutely terrible.
Fixed that for you.
Where ever you look, you can find crap.
[–]jonmwilson1979 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
True, but most of Christianity's outward reaches throughout history have come from Europe (and later from America), and most of Europe is white (and let's not forget the WASPs of America), leading to a bunch of white people doing a bunch of killing and enslaving for jesus that pisses me off. I didn't say the rest of the world was puppies and rainbows, only that I get pissed off at my race.
[–]daonlyfreez 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
I think the "issue" many seem to have with your rage-comic is the fact that you mention Palestine/Israel.
Apparently this brings out the meanest streaks in people.
Maybe your fellow Arabs can accept what you describe in your rage-comic as valid (the issue with cultural difference in treating boys/girls), but they cannot accept your statement on the "big issue", or at least on that what Arabs/Muslims in particular claim to be the be-all-and-end-all-of-issues.
Probably not only does this enrage those who feel bound by their faith/culture to take a side, but also those that have an equal emotionally loaded and crippling view that are not Arabs, but probably more "liberal/leftist" Westerners.
So, you must not be a "true" representative of your people, you are even accused of being "too white" (sounds like what African-Americans tend to call those among them who go out of the usual group-think on issues).
I guess that if you had left out the back-and-forth between your mom and you on Palestine/Israel, you wouldn't had gotten this shit-storm over you.
Keep your head up. You are right on both issues raised.
I looked back through some of your posts, as you suggested, and saw some of what you're talking about. I thought about commenting or upvoting, but being pretty new to reddit, I'm not sure how reddit etiquette treats commenting on old stuff.
[–]Dukenastyy 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
I've never met another Arab atheist :D
[–]BladeBloodchild 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
Checked a few out...fuk 'em if they don't like or believe you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gqYAuFvtXM
[–]WasIRong -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 months ago
link it, nobody wants to go through all your shitty rage comics.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago
:( Geez, I dunno why I'm getting such negative feedback from this post. You don't have to be so rude..
http://www.reddit.com/r/fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu/comments/kt8lu/i_support_anything_you_do/
Mainly from that comic, I got a ton of death threats and hate mail separately but you can see in the comments as well.
[–]Brodito 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
lol. I feel ya.
I get shit all the time for being a Jewish Atheist. People really don't understand that Judaism is a culture just as much as a religion.
I also get shit from other Jews, because I'm pro-Palestine.
[–]gahgeer -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 months ago
Because you're moaning all the time Sarah, and can't call a fuckin women organization to help you with your forced marriage.
ಠ_ಠ Shutup.
[–]gahgeer -2 points-1 points0 points 10 months ago
Post a photo of your 50-year-old husband when you get married, douche.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
Lol what? I think you have this idea that I'm getting married off to an old man and it seems to piss you off personally.
[–]Madcapslaugh 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
your wedding is going to be awesome! we'll have a meetup in Ramallah
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
:) I hope so!
[–]darkwing_fuck 28 points29 points30 points 10 months ago
I present to you all, me, an Arab (Egyptian) atheist
http://i.imgur.com/3JXKS.jpg
[–]BobbyD2 20 points21 points22 points 10 months ago
Hey bro. Dunno if anyone ever told you but you look white.
[–]darkwing_fuck 9 points10 points11 points 10 months ago
Not one fuck was given by the flying spaghetti monster when I was designed in the lab.
It's funny, when I speak to people over the phone, they do a double take when they meet me.
My name is Gamal (with a hard G)
[–]DRoadkill 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago
Gypo-atheist five!
...or something. Hi.
[–]darkwing_fuck 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
Howdy
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 10 months ago
http://i.imgur.com/RUjuV.jpg
That's me, a few weeks ago In ramallah.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 10 months ago
I now understand how you can relate to Neil patrick Harris. he also likes men.
He also likes men.
And women. Not Neil, I mean I do.
Well, thats a positive thing, increase the chance of getting laid by a lot more. Wish I was bisexualish. sleep with everyone marry a girl yay
True I guess.. I think it's more of a personality thing. Also I find a lot of girls way more attractive.
[–]jonmwilson1979 10 points11 points12 points 10 months ago
And you have amazing eyes. More power to you, white-looking Arabic atheist girl!
[–]darkwing_fuck 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Yes, I concur, beautiful indeed :)
[–]BSchoolBro 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
You don't look white to me, but that's maybe because I am middle eastern as well and pretty pale, but people still can easily tell I'm not white.
[–]darkwing_fuck 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Here here to the .000000001% :)
[–]Brodito 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Wait, doesn't that make every else the 99.99999999%?
Now we have to occupy Arab Atheists who look white??? O_O fuck
[–]pon_farr 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
what up guuuuurl i'm a native american atheist that looks white, wanna wink wink get coffee sometime?
No, I am in coffee rehab. :p
[–]psygnisfive 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Coffee rehab? But you're Arabic! Arab coffee is the greatest! :(
That's the problem! It's so good! I blame my dad though, he would put me coffee in my sippy cups and I seriously to this day cannot stop.
[–]psygnisfive 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
How's that a problem! O_O
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Because it gets addicting! And then I get headaches if I don't drink it, and apparently stunts growth? But who cares, I'm going to be five feet forever.
If you get headaches when you don't drink it, then don't don't drink it!
[–]shan6 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
I present to you all, me, an Arab (Egyptian) atheist with an excellent fucking user name!
FTFY
[–]abbasaamer 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
شكلك امريكي
[–]Abaddon77 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Well, apparently I'm here to tell you that you can't/don't exist...or...something.
[–]BurgerGrease 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
Eziek?
[–]verbify 6 points7 points8 points 10 months ago
I get that a lot for 'Jewish Atheist'. 'Jewish' is an ethnicity as well as a culture. Judaism is the religion.
And don't they know many Arabs 'look white'? I mean Queen Rania is pretty famous, and she's an Arab of Palestinian descent.
[–]fallens 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
So if you are someone who practices Judaism, you call yourself a Judais? I don't think so. You're Jewish. I thought Semite was the word for the ethnicity and culture.
Semite includes all Semitic races (which nowadays is pretty much Arabs and Jews). Besides, nobody describes themselves as 'Semitic' - the word is only used in the negative context. According to Wikipedia "Jews are a nation and ethnoreligious group... ethnicity, nationality, and religion are strongly interrelated". I don't believe in the religion, but still am part of the ethnic and cultural parts.
[–]realberbersilver 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
"Semetic" covers a broader ethnic range, though. As in, Jews are Semites, but not all Semites are Jews.
[–]gg4465a 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Ashkenazic Jews (Jews of European descent) are not Semitic.
[–]chekkers 6 points7 points8 points 10 months ago
TIL that NPH is an Arab Atheist
[–]profanusnothus 11 points12 points13 points 10 months ago
Huh?
[–]Smallpaul 12 points13 points14 points 10 months ago
Context please?
[–]non_sequitur_MKE 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago
... you feel like a white guy in a tux? wtf
[–]OmegaArcadia 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Correction: that's NPH.
[–]1123581321345589144b 7 points8 points9 points 10 months ago
You can be arab and atheist all you like my good person. You can be purple all I care. Atheists do not fit well in any stereotype in my opinion. Likely because we are such a minority. So, yes, please be arab and atheist. Spread the understanding now!
[–]shan6 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago
Atheists do not fit well in any stereotype in my opinion.
Except for those fucking purple ones.
[–]KAMalosh 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Purple atheists are the worst. Those fucking guys.
[–]OmegaArcadia 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Relevant.
[–]GenericEvilDude 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago
How I feel when someone references reddit as a single entity
[–]GodHatesWomen 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
How reddit feels when they see the same thing over and over again http://i.imgur.com/6mJHR.gif
[–]Supora 7 points8 points9 points 10 months ago
Arabs are considered Caucasian, so whoever is telling you that is a fucking idiot.
Thank you! :) I feel like I've tried to explain this millions of times.
[–]geniusgrunt 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago*
I think that is a matter of debate, besides why does it even matter? I have met arabs in my life that seem to have an inferiority complex, I've met several that change their names to anglo names and don't reveal that they are of arab descent. That's a shame, who cares? Why do so many arabs want to be known as white? I am sure there is quite a bit of genetic variation among arabs no? Iraqis are certainly different from the lebanese, there are very dark arabs too, how are they caucasian? I don't mean to accuse you of anything SarBeat, yes you look white I suppose and it's the height of ignorance that people don't accept that some arabs look white, that I can see being annoying. But you shouldn't have to feel the need to explain to people that arabs are caucasian, you certainly have arab traits in your facial features. Define caucaian, light skinned? I am south asian but my mother is as fair as you, is she caucasian? Anyway, end of rant.
[–]Supora 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
It isn't a matter of debate. A Caucasian is defined as people "of or relating to one of the traditional divisions of humankind, covering a broad group of peoples from Europe, western Asia, and parts of India and North Africa."
A quick google search could have cleared that up.
It matters because nowadays being Arab in America isn't exactly a great thing.
[–]geniusgrunt 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago
I understand it can be tough but I don't think arabs should have to disguise themselves as whites in order to gain acceptance. If anything, people should be aware of your ancestry so they are forced to confront their ridiculous biases.
Yeah, but that would imply that all people aren't just obnoxiously ignorant or racist. Some people just don't want to accept it. But i understand what you mean, I shouldn't have to hide it.
[–]geniusgrunt 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago*
So extremely dark people of arab descent are caucasian? Who gives a damn anyway? Define caucasian? Light skinned? You can't assign the same traits to all arabs, surely you are aware of the arab diaspora, it isn't just full of people who have caucasian traits, the history of that region of the world is full of different people mating leading to a mix of genetic traits, some more caucasian looking than others, others not at all. Arabs shouldn't feel the need to define themselves this way, it smacks of an inferiority complex.
[–]Supora 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
Arabs are defined by the US government as Caucasian. The word is used to group people "of or relating to one of the traditional divisions of humankind, covering a broad group of peoples from Europe, western Asia, and parts of India and North Africa."
Source: the googles, or dictionary.com
[–]MIUfish 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
...eerr?
[–]tomoto_ 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
HEY! I'm Arab, atheist, and white as well!! Where are you from/born?
I'm from chicago and my parents are Palestinians.
[–]tomoto_ 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
haha awesome, i was in chicago for a short while this summer, a day before electric forest and roughly a week, after electric forest
[–]Abaddon77 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Nope, can't happen.
=(
[–]DashingLeech 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
I always find it funny to hear when reddit does things. Is it a corporate policy? Aggregate vote of all users? A few people agreeing on something? Or one person saying something?
[–]ragoff 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
So, lacking the required skin pigment, do you do other things to up your street cred?
[–]GodHatesWomen 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
There is no Arab selection on federal government applications and job stuff, in fact in the white section it includes people born of arabian descent. I'm white, my arms tan from the sun But i can be pretty glowy.
[–]yhoundeh 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
My boyfriend is a red-headed light-skinned Syrian "Atheist" (he hates the term, but for lack of a better word). They are among us!
[–]rottenseed 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
This happens all the time...except for instead of calling me an "Arab Atheist that 'Looks white'", they call me "asshole"
[–]Borealismeme 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
I have no response to that.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
There's a puerto rican guy at work everyone says looks white lol he has the same problem.. I assure you,we believe you man.
Man
:p Girl.
[–]KAMalosh 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Come on now, everyone knows that there aren't any girls on the internet. That's rule 30. :p
What are the other 29 rules?
[–]KAMalosh 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/30662#.Tr1q90Mg9uQ
There are many rules of the internet. I don't usually invoke any of them...except rule 34, which I usually try to ignore.
Oh man, I'm failing the internet then! :(
Hahaha, nah, we all have to learn the rules at some point.
what happens when you don't follow them? ಠ_ಠ
ಠ_ಠ We don't talk about that...
Does it involve furry porn?? The most lethal poison.
[–]sharpingpen 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Friend walk through Steinway in Astoria last night in a fez. All the drunken Whites started laughing and teasing halloween was last month.
All the Arabs asked him where's he from and those who knew him said "I knew you were too smart to be American"
[–]inmybunk 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
ok, i'm late to the party, but i'm also a lightskinned arab atheist...sort of. I was born in mexico and raised there my whole life, but three of my grandparents are purely middle eastern in descent. the fourth WAS mexican btw. but if you met me on the street, you'd swear i was caucasian. except maybe for my nose.
[–]mechapunch 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
I'm 2/4 Lebanese. The rest of me is English and Scandinavian. A Persian guy told me I look Italian.
[–]Theladd21 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Sorry for being off topic here, but there's a subreddit for HIFW posts
[–]HowDoMagnatesWork 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
A lot of Arabs look "white"
[–]BulbousAlsoTapered 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
My wife's Palestinian, is very light-skinned, and has freckles. On the other hand, she has very dense curly black hair. She also runs counter to the ethnic stereotype by having a small nose. And she speaks English with a British accent since that's where she went to school.
Nobody can ever guess her ethnicity.
Oh, and she's an atheist too.
Do you ever get snotty comments from your family about your atheism?
[–]Hella_Norcal 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Hey! Lebanese-American / Arab-American atheist here. I look pretty white as well. I'd love to exchange some thoughts/experiences with you. Where are you from?
[–]oopstoolate 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
I think its great that you're confident in who you are and what you believe in (or don't believe in, in this case lol). Too many people are afraid to reveal their true selves because they fear persecution. If someone doesn't like who or what you are, fuck em; you're better off without them. Kudos to you for being a true human.
[–]JackRawlinson 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Who the hell tells you that? No one on r/atheism, I hope.
[–]DaRootbear 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
I upvoted because I saw Neil Patrick Harris
[–]Crownowa 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
I'm a Jewish atheist that looks white. Don't worry, I know several Arab atheists that look white or have very fair skin, and even orange/blond hair and blue/green eyes.
[–]tastypuffs 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
I don't believe you. Pics or it didn't happen.
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[–]sylian 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago
Pleasant surprise
Lol, seriously what is so pleasant about being a Caucasian or being in any kind of ethnicity.
[–][deleted] 10 months ago
"Other" Made me feel like I was checking a box that said "The thing." ಠ_ಠ
[–]Eddicus -4 points-3 points-2 points 10 months ago
This post sucks.
[–]Abaddon77 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
Your post did quite a lot to turn it around, though. Thank you my good man/woman/child/bear/pig/thing.
all it takes is a username and password
create account
is it really that easy? only one way to find out...
already have an account and just want to login?
login
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