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This is mind-numbing. (i.imgur.com)

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[–]DukeOfGeek 11 points12 points ago

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Your body can be converted into GDP. The techniques for doing so have been refined for centuries.

[–]losermcfail 1 point2 points ago

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thermal depolymerization

[–]xscientist 30 points31 points ago

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This image makes the point in a more visceral manner. NSFL (literally and figuratively).

[–]rockorsomething 2 points3 points ago

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Reminds me of this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2BTngNnr8

[–]AdArbitrium 2 points3 points ago

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Wow, that's grim. Is this a realistic depiction?

[–]xscientist 0 points1 point ago

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While this image may not be a literally correct interpretation of the OP's provided diagram of one particular slave ship, I am not certain whether other ships might be closer to my image or not. However, I think the image I showed gives a clearer sense of the absolute horror that these ships must have imposed on those being transported by them.

[–]JonMEdwards 1 point2 points ago

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Saw this in World History.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Later, in the South..

[–]adamwong246 3 points4 points ago*

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FOR THE RECORD: The slaves were bought, not captured, from black African slave owners. Whites were kept as slaves (read indentured servant) Northerners also held slaves. And during the Back-To-Africa movement, recently freed slaves were returned to Liberia where the immediately enslaved native blacks and established plantations.

Edit: Nigeria -> Liberia

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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This is mostly accurate, I think. The early slave trade was mostly conducted by raiding Europeans, and the later slave trade was mostly conducted by buying slaves at slaving ports.

Raiding did continue, but grew less frequent: it was cheaper, but carried more risk.

Sorry, I cannot link you to my source, because my fiancée has my copy of this very good book, so I can't look it up, and alas the above is from memory.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Minor details only. Europeans did raid, but stopped doing so after a while.

[–]adamwong246 0 points1 point ago*

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Ah yes, my bad. Liberia, not Nigeria. Thank you. and yeah, I see those downvotes too. It's karmic suicide to defend The South from being used as a cultural toilet. It seems people love to trash the South while disregarding the fact that slavery still exists today... in Africa, mainly, and southeast Asia.

[–]fokov 0 points1 point ago

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The sex slave trade is picking up again as well.

[–]ShootinWilly 6 points7 points ago

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Propaganda published by the Plymouth Society for Effecting the Abolition of the Slave Trade, (slightly) exaggerating the conditions.

[–]ikidd 1 point2 points ago

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There was some wording in there that made me think it was an anti-slavery publication. I was thinking British as they were one of the earliest abolition countries, eventually patrolling to eliminate slave shipping.

[–]themanfromak 3 points4 points ago

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As I'm teaching a lesson on this exact subject on Thursday, I can also blow your mind by telling you that each slave was given their own space of 6 feet by 16 inches by 2 feet 7 inches (the height to the next shelf) . I'm going to have the middle schoolers measure the space out and see how they can fit comfortably. THEN I'll explain that they are also chained to the person next to them wrist to wrist and ankle to ankle.

[–]Inspector_Butters -1 points0 points ago

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That's larger than the personal sleeping accommodations on modern day submarines. I think you are presenting this well! Physical things they can relate to (hands on) tends to stick in their heads a bit better sometimes.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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I wasn't aware that modern-day submarines were filled with abused kidnapping victims.

[–]Inspector_Butters -1 points0 points ago*

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I have a feeling you are not aware of much. I am quite impressed with themanfromak because I loved teachers like this.

[–]GargamelCuntSnarf 2 points3 points ago

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Watch the movie Bamboozled

[–]HOMEP1 -1 points0 points ago

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Decent movie. Just don't buy into Spike Lee's crap too much.

[–]GargamelCuntSnarf 0 points1 point ago

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It's far-and-away his best movie. He's definitely full of lots of shit; Bamboozled is like a diamond in the rough.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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ITT: People who didn't see 25th Hour or Do The Right Thing

[–]GargamelCuntSnarf 0 points1 point ago

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I thought 25th hour was awful; you've a point about DTRT.

[–]LitleWaffle 2 points3 points ago

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I know right? When was "shewn" changed to "shown"?

[–]RobinBennett 1 point2 points ago

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Dunno, was it this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift ?

[–]LitleWaffle 0 points1 point ago

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But this happened a couple hundred years before this parchment. Did they perhaps change it again? Or just the spelling?

[–]manateetanam 0 points1 point ago

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I'd imagine the 'e' changed to an 'o' first, then the pronunciation.

[–]LitleWaffle 0 points1 point ago

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This is so mind numbing. Thanks OP, now I won't be able to sleep pondering this.

[–]BeatlesForSale 2 points3 points ago

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While it in no way excuses what part Britain had in the slave trade, I would like to point out that Britain was one of the first to ban it.

[–]mr18inches 2 points3 points ago

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yeah tell me about it, look at all that wasted space!

[–]indycloud 0 points1 point ago

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Wow, just wow. If you were trying to be funny, you didn't quite land that one.

[–]mr18inches 1 point2 points ago

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nah if I were trying to be funny, i'd want to sink that one.

[–]morgatron151[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Nah man, made me laugh. Haters gon' hate.

[–]nadmaximus 4 points5 points ago

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I'd hate to see what an "unregulated" ship was like.

[–]Super_King_ 5 points6 points ago

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Same conditions. They wanted to maximize profit and this set up was done in order to ensure maximum surivival and maximum number of slaves on board.

Don't forget that people made their whole livelihood off of this, they weren't doing this to be assholes.

[–]atheos 31 points32 points ago

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they weren't doing this to be assholes.

Boy, that's a relief!

[–]Bipolarruledout 1 point2 points ago

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Just like drug dealers.... and bankers. "It's just business".

[–]RobinBennett 0 points1 point ago

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It's a lot more space than in this example (that's currently the top comment)

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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I remember seeing that exact same picture in a history textbook in school.

[–]lauro2011 0 points1 point ago

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Being a history major, I think I've seen this image at least 100 times, and it saddens me every single time.

tl;dr - sometimes history really sucks

[–]Kamuiberen 1 point2 points ago

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TL;DR does not apply to single-sentences ಠ_ಠ

[–]lauro2011 0 points1 point ago

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True. I guess it just felt really wordy for the message I was trying to convey. I don't have a handle on the Wadsworth Constant yet..

[–]Probably-Lying -1 points0 points ago

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yes it does.

TLDR it does

[–]Gorignak 13 points14 points ago

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This is horrifying, but thankfully it's all over now. However, the slave trade still goes on. This, as terrible as it is, is at least regulated, but the slaves that are traded today fly completely under the radar, out of reach of most forms of help.

[–]SuperCow1127 35 points36 points ago

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I have a feeling the regulations weren't so much for the benefit of the "cargo."

[–]Gorignak 13 points14 points ago

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No, I meant that because it was 'regulated', it was possible to outlaw it, thus ending it for the most part. But since today's is so much more underground, the authorities can't just tell people they can't do it any more to stop it.

[–]yardglass 0 points1 point ago

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Because it was regulated it was possible to make it illegal, but because it's now illegal you can't make it illegal again? Actually, you could make it more illegal (larger punishments).

[–]Joke_Getter 3 points4 points ago

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I think people are already aware that slaving is illegal. What he's saying is that it's gone so far underground that it's difficult to find it. In truth, it's not that hard, it just requires massive amounts of manpower and time, two things most governments would rather spend doing other things.

[–]Gorignak 1 point2 points ago

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It is already massively illegal, with large sentences. But what I mean is, when it's regulated, you know what's going on, so you can stop it. But the government doesn't know who these people are, or where they are. A girl chained up in some basement somewhere is impossible to find, even if they knew she was missing.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points ago

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So.....what? Better to legalize slavery so we can abolish it again? Are you fucking retarded?

[–]Gorignak 2 points3 points ago

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I don't think that's what I said. My point is that when it was done legally, when the time came to stop it the government just revoked its legality, thereby shutting down most slaving operations. I'm assuming that there were some who didn't stop straight away, but for the most part it was over.

When it is already conducted under the table, the governments of the world can't just tell people to cease and desist. Legalising and abolishing again wouldn't make any difference.

[–]RobinBennett 0 points1 point ago

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It's the law of diminishing returns - it's easy to stop most of it, but it gets harder once you've stopped all the obvious stuff.

[–]EvOllj 1 point2 points ago

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its all about efficiency, market value and survival rates.

A very large percentage of the cargo dies during the shipping.

[–]ChickenFarmer 7 points8 points ago

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I don't know if it's true, but I heard that there are more slaves today than at any other time in human history. Maybe the percentage is lower, but with the bigger population it sounds possible. (Although I don't know which definition of "slave" was used for that number...)

[–]fwubglubbel[!] 4 points5 points ago

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Modern slavery stats

[–]ChickenFarmer 1 point2 points ago

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Urgh. That's horrible! :-(

[–]Beer_Is_So_Awesome[!] 1 point2 points ago

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As an even-tempered, reasonably enlightened individual, reading those statistics make me want to hunt down these people with a machine gun.

[–]Gorignak 5 points6 points ago

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I don't know that much about the statistics, but it does go on today, and more than you would like to think. Every couple of months you read about slavery rings getting smashed, here in the UK. Instead of the slaves getting dragged away from their country, they are lured here from Eastern Europe with the promise of jobs and a better life. But instead they find their passports gone straight away, and either forced into prostitution, or if they're lucky, just being someone's personal slave.

[–]Chicken-n-Waffles 3 points4 points ago

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It's done today in shipping containers.

[–]Frederic54 1 point2 points ago

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I read somewhere that there is more slaves today than there was centuries ago. I will have to refind this article, I guess I reddit here.

[–]PumpValve 0 points1 point ago

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Did you get an extra shipment of commas? Jesus Christ man.

[–]Gorignak 1 point2 points ago

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Actually, I, have, a, few, left, over.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Regulated? There were no laws about the proper treatment of slaves during the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. Slaves were beaten, killed, tortured, raped...what exactly do you believe "regulations" did for them?

It was terrible then, and it's terrible now.

[–]Jesus_luvs_Jenkem 0 points1 point ago

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There are more slaves today than at any other time in history.

[–]robbor 15 points16 points ago

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African slavery was actually started by Africans enslaving weaker tribes. Then the Arabs got in on the act, and a lot later the Europeans.

[–]Faythren 19 points20 points ago

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If you think of that region as where human life sprang up, then goddamn everything was started there. That hardly justifies it. And from what I recall it was primarily prisoners, etc that were entered into slavery rather than whole tribes. And it wasn't chattel slavery, the Europeans came up with that one all by themselves.

[–]MadMageMC 5 points6 points ago

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If you think of that region as where human life sprang up, then goddamn everything was started there.

Yeah! Fucking Tigris and Euphrates! Fuck that fertile river crescent!

[–]DukeOfGeek 2 points3 points ago

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If you believe in karma then it will satisfy you to know that when those tribes ran out of neighbors to put on the ships, many of them fell victim to the trade themselves.

[–]Beer_Is_So_Awesome[!] 1 point2 points ago

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I'd call that poetic justice, not karma.

[–]DukeOfGeek 0 points1 point ago

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-examines internal dictionary- I do believe you are correct my good man. And have an UV for your user tag as well.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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For it to be karma, something would have had to happen to the European traders as well.

[–]DukeOfGeek 0 points1 point ago

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The story I always see is that when the slave takers ran out of stock slave buyers got them drunk and took them too, and grabbed back a lot of what they had paid. Probably considered it a old trick. That would rank on the other side of the planet from bad stuff, sadly. Maybe if they had gotten into a vicious drunken brawl with each other and had all been burned alive in the conflagration of their ill gotten gains and the ships and fortress they where contained in, that would have been karma.

/really enjoyed imagining that as it might have happened.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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African and Arab slavery was not conducted under the same conditions as European slavery, a fact that is always conveniently forgotten whenever some white nationalist decides to poke his head into a thread like this one.

[–]Inspector_Butters 0 points1 point ago*

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Did not know it was an "other than white" thread. Your racism warms me. Well done.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Pointing out that European chattel slavery was markedly different from Arab/African slavery is racist?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Pointing out that European chattel slavery was markedly different from Arab/African slavery is racist?

[–]Inspector_Butters 0 points1 point ago

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No it is not... But this sorta is "conveniently forgotten whenever some white nationalist decides to poke his head into a thread like this one."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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It's racist to point out that downplaying the uniquely horrible nature of chattel slavery is a common tactic of white nationalists? Since when are facts racist?

[–]Inspector_Butters 0 points1 point ago

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Unless I missed something, where did an acknowledged White Nationalist insert his comments?

And where are you getting your info on the differences in European vs African/Arab slavery conditions?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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If it argues like a white nationalist, there's a decent chance that it is one.

[–]Inspector_Butters 0 points1 point ago

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I won't disagree with you on that point. I am sure I probably missed it. I kind of look at this from the American perspective sometimes and really disagree with the "America was everything that was bad with slavery". I am not defending slavery in any way, shape or form. It was much worse elsewhere.

An estimated 12 million Africans arrived in the Americas from the 16th to the 19th centuries. Of these, an estimated 645,000 were brought to what is now the United States. The usual estimate is that about 15 per cent of slaves died during the voyage, with mortality rates considerably higher in Africa itself in the process of capturing and transporting indigenous peoples to the ships. Approximately 6 million Africans were killed by other blacks in tribal wars.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Pointing out that European chattel slavery was markedly different from Arab/African slavery is racist?

[–]robbor 1 point2 points ago

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Australia was also involved in the slave trade. Pacific islanders were sold to work in the sugar cane fields right up until the early 20th century. They were called Kanakas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanakas

[–]EatBooks 1 point2 points ago

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I'm really, really sick of people bringing this point up.

Yeah, someone else started it. But Europeans went along with it. There's no honor in anything.

[–]bass85 7 points8 points ago

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This is bullshit. Slavery within communities in Africa and Asia were mainly among households and city-states (in the army in which case they were treated better than the local population). Europe took slavery to a whole new level of transporting thousands if not millions of people across the ocean to work on plantations and mines. If you think you're going to make yourself feel better by saying "everyone else did it before us" crap then think again. Slavery existed everywhere (including Europe) on a small scale. What that photo is showing is a completely different level of slavery that was only carried out by Europeans.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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You are both correct. It was started by the Africans, later run by the Arabs, but it took the Europeans to turn it into an industrial-scale genocide.

Not forgetting, of course, the Irish slaves who were also sent to the plantations.

[–]Amberleaf 2 points3 points ago

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Africans were implicit in the slave trade. The Europeans stayed in the forts and castles on the coast and the slaves were brought to them by the African chiefs. The Ashanti were a very powerful tribe in West Africa and so were the Yoruba, they controlled the inland slave trade in West Africa.

This does not excuse the Europeans, but it is important to acknowledge that they would have been unable to so it without assistance from the powerful tribes and chiefs.

[–]asenz 2 points3 points ago

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Greeks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Greece

[–]gregsmith93 3 points4 points ago

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If i up vote am i racist?

[–]atheos 2 points3 points ago

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depends, what color are you?

[–]gregsmith93 7 points8 points ago

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Im white. But my my last next door neighbour was black

[–]atheos 0 points1 point ago

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ok, this would indeed make you a racist.

Disclaimer: I am a white person.

[–]Faythren 1 point2 points ago

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I think that depends on whether the upvote is because you agree with the title and the post's location in WTF, or if the upvote is because you're racist.

[–]gregsmith93 0 points1 point ago

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Im not racist haha. I was making a joke.

[–]Faythren 0 points1 point ago

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So was I :P

[–]gregsmith93 1 point2 points ago

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Haha well I'm sorry for being an idiot

[–]JimmyJamesMac 3 points4 points ago

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How did they take a shit?

[–]ikidd 0 points1 point ago

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I caution you not to think about what was in the bilge, or how it smelled.

[–]zsakuL 2 points3 points ago

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This is revolting. They could easily have packed more in, making each voyage more efficient.

[–]morgatron151[S] 1 point2 points ago

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Shoulda double stacked 'em

[–]gybryant 1 point2 points ago

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You can't truss it.

[–]Alcapwn92 1 point2 points ago

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This makes my brain hurt so much, weren't these the same people that left england for religious freedom? Well in the book they so called "believe in" says god mad all men the same......SO WHY THE HELL did shit like this happen. Oh btw I'm a believer in God so don't go pulling that "oh your just an atheist" crap. FUCK RACISM.

[–]originalorphan 3 points4 points ago

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Traders made a stop in Africa... The tribal chiefs did not have much to trade for spices and cloths and whatnot, so they suggested trading their prisoners of war for these things... It was lose/lose for them as they had to feed them, and keep guard over them; while gaining nothing. Now they had a good way to get rid of them, and not risk them escaping and fucking shit up. You give a businessman a way to get hours of work for a fraction of what it would normally cost, and you've got a happy businessman. You put this businessman in a time when racism wasn't even a known phrase and part of general morality, and you've got a businessman with no qualms about enslaving people. There you go.

Here's a thought, would racism(as a term or idea) even exist if slavery hadn't? Would it just be an accepted part of everyday life? Who knows...

[–]RobinBennett 0 points1 point ago

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There weren't anything like as many slaves in Europe, and we still have racism, but it's definitely different.

[–]originalorphan 0 points1 point ago

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Don't you mean "there weren't anything like as many slaves in Europe as recently"?... Europe had its fair share of slavery, just usually in a different way. Also, yes, racism is very different in Europe... Not non-existent, but it certainly seemed to be a lot less prevalent than it is in American culture.

[–]RobinBennett 0 points1 point ago

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I don't think they were the same people, once a viable colony was established lots more people emigrated to americam, mostly for economic reasons not religious reasons.

The bible can be interpreted in many different ways, and in many places supports slavery.

http://www.evilbible.com/Slavery.htm

They even had a special version printed for slaves, that implied that slavery was part of god's plan - and questioned whether slaves had souls.

[–]Bipolarruledout 0 points1 point ago

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And Jesus Christ was a socialist. Didn't stop capitalism.

[–]velocity010 1 point2 points ago

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we dutch people were very....."efficient" at slavery we actually got this stuff at highschool not kidding (well atleast the history we're not slave mongering imperialists anymore, instead we just smoke weed and drink beer all day)

[–]Bipolarruledout 0 points1 point ago

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Slavery still exists. It's hard to believe that rich nations don't benefit from it in some way but it's largely invisible and "indirect". You also get into significant grey area when you bring up the issue of "fair compensation" and slavery. You could argue that the slaves get room and board, are fed, etc.

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Dubai was built on it

[–]Conbryvas 1 point2 points ago

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7th Grade Social Studies class?

Yeah, that's however, pretty messed up, imagine football teams not showering after a big game and then sitting in one of those tight-packer ships for weeks. That smell, and not to mention lying down for an extremely long time. Horrible.

[–]Bipolarruledout 2 points3 points ago

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Much like a 7th Grade Social Studies class.

[–]the_great_ganonderp 1 point2 points ago

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BOYS

[–]Bob3333 6 points7 points ago

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I can't believe the improper use of an apostrophe on the label for the boys section.

[–]Anzac5665 3 points4 points ago

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Thought it was a diagram of that Carnival Cruise I took

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That looks like a very antiquated understanding of how the penis functions...

[–]p4nz3r 2 points3 points ago

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Tetris Superstar!

[–]piratepixie 1 point2 points ago

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Wouldn't they have made room for more if they had slept shoulder-toe?

[–]Bubblebath_expert 0 points1 point ago

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Indeed. They could also save on chains by using the same one running through feet and necks. You could even make feets rest on the next row's chest so they're crotch-head. Depending on how they tie them in, you probably need some space to walk in between them. I suppose this could be solved if there were a bunch of planks placed over the slaves so as to allow someone to walk over them to lock them in. You could also acheive more density by placing each slave diagonally, resting on the other to their left. Of course, it depends on how much it can hurt someone to have someone else lying on you for that long.

I think this is the most inhumane engineering discussion I ever had.

[–]mr18inches 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah but in the mindset of the traders they want to get the most return possible on their investment. Sure you can pack them in and maximize the shipment, but ships get destroyed in storms and overcrowding can lead to death. You don't want to put all your eggs in one basket so to speak, so not to say the conditions weren't terrible aboard these ships, this depicted is an exaggeration.

[–]Kronogor 1 point2 points ago

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I think you meant to say, "This is mind-numbingly efficient."

[–]taboo007 0 points1 point ago

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I still remember this exact picture from my history book in grade school I probably looked at it the whole class period and took it home and just looked at it. I will never forget this picture ever!

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That's because you looked at it too much. Same reason why you will NEVER forget your genitals.

[–]Jenxa 0 points1 point ago

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Oh my gosh....That's so horrible :(

[–]gbhall 0 points1 point ago

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I remember being shown that same pic in high school

[–]YardenGarden 0 points1 point ago

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I used to stare at this image in my 6th grade history textbook - And even then I knew this was terrible.

[–]marvelous_molester 0 points1 point ago

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Not really, just something we're not used to seeing, not mind-numbing or disturbing in the least if you didn't grow up thinking we're living in a fucking disney movie.

[–]Hockeyman55 0 points1 point ago

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Very...... http://i.imgur.com/7yXy0.jpg

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Slavery != Africa

It's always sucked.

[–]itsratheraerodynamic 0 points1 point ago

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I had to study this exact picture last year in American History...

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[–]Super_King_ 12 points13 points ago

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Every nation has taken part in it one way or another. Hell there are still yearly slavery prosecutions in Florida in the tomato fields.

This is still very much a problem.

[–]EricTboneJackson 0 points1 point ago

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I feel so ashamed that we as a nation took part in this.

I feel ashamed that part of our nation is proud of their part in this and would do it all over again, Dixie flag waving proud.

[–]Cilicious 2 points3 points ago

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I don't really get all the finger-pointing at the present-day south.

Yeah, the past is horrible--it totally is, including our founding slave-owning fathers.

But I moved to the south in 2005 and have seen much more integration, successful elementary schools and happy biracial marriages than I ever saw in Colorado, where everyone professes to be tolerant but the reality is segregated neighborhoods, with struggling minority schools.

Of course no place is perfect, but I always felt a subtle 'separate but equal' vibe in Denver--except the separation is not really equal.

[–]EricTboneJackson 0 points1 point ago

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I don't really get all the finger-pointing at the present-day south.

I'm from Louisiana, but spent most of my life on the west coast, and now live in Denver. There's plenty of rednecks in CO, but it's nowhere near the naked, shameless bigotry I encounter when visiting my relatives in Louisiana; they call blacks "niggers" and think most blacks are dirty criminals. What I hate most is when I'm at a hotel or something and some black maid comes along, I try to greet her with a smile, and she averts her eyes because I'm white. That pretty much tells me everything.

[–]Cilicious 0 points1 point ago

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I don't think I will live to see the end of all naked, shameless bigotry, but I think things are better now. I saw some of it as a kid during court-ordered busing in Denver in the '70's, which, after massive white flight, ended in 1995.

There is no doubt in my mind that racism exists here as well, it's just that I do not believe that Dixie has a monopoly on it.

There are trashy people everywhere, just as there are thugs who wear suits and sit behind desks.

Maybe I am a bit of a Pollyanna, but I am optimistic for the generation coming after me.

[–]SRowan -2 points-1 points ago

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Dixie flag = "Keepin' ém deaf dumb and blind since 1861"

[–]Faythren -5 points-4 points ago

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Oh god, tell me about it. I moved to the south last year for grad school. It's everywhere here. Countdown til I leave in July.

[–]SRowan 0 points1 point ago

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Whats wrong with the south? Are you really that put off by a flag or has the KKK been passing out flyers again?

[–]Faythren 2 points3 points ago

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Not so much presence of a flag as the presence of gratuitous amounts of racism and ignorance. Although the KKK did protest on campus about two years ago, so you're not too far off the mark with that one.

[–]SRowan 0 points1 point ago

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Personally, I love the south. But hey, I'm a white male from KY! There is a gratuitous amount of racism and ignorance to be found in places. Why did you choose to go to school there and may I ask where you are from?

[–]Faythren 0 points1 point ago

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Well, I'm a white female, so generally I personally get treated very well here too. I'm from PA originally, so while there is indeed racism and ignorance everywhere, it's rather pronounced here, at least in comparison. I elected to come here because my department is quite good, and I was offered an excellent funding package. Also, it's warm. That was kind of high on my list when I applied two years ago.

[–]SRowan 3 points4 points ago

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Good luck to you and I hope all is worthwhile in the end. I don't know what part of PA you are from but from what I know the Klan is huge there. PA can get quite white in some places!

[–]SRowan 0 points1 point ago

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A bigger boat with more room seems like a good fix to me.

[–]Kronogor 0 points1 point ago

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I think you meant to say, "This is mind-numbingly efficient."

[–]trust_the_corps 0 points1 point ago

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How is this any different from economy class on any train or plane?

[–]swimmingmunky 1 point2 points ago

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This is where planking came from.

[–]A_Slow_Descent -1 points0 points ago

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I always thought loose pack would work best just incase they got sick.

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[–]uberc 2 points3 points ago

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I hope you reported this.

[–]Kronogor -1 points0 points ago

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I think you meant to say, "This is mind-numbingly efficient."

[–]zirazira -1 points0 points ago

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Every time I hear a Black whine about slavery I tell them that I will gladly buy them a one way ticket back to Nigeria. In 50 years I have never had anyone take me up on the offer.

[–]3AYATS -2 points-1 points ago

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No, no, they're just really THAT into planking.

[–]orthographist -2 points-1 points ago

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Yeah, there's a comma in Boy's..

[–]stabbacat 5 points6 points ago

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Except that's an apostrophe.

[–]despicable_secret 0 points1 point ago

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That's just what commas turn into when they grow up. It's like saying "I was sitting on the poop deck of the Amistad with some of the boys when, suddenly..."

[–]digger_ex_pat 2 points3 points ago

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I didn't know if that was a mistake or just the style at the time.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points ago

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judging by the onion hanging from the authors belt, I'm going with style at the time...

[–]pleasekillmi 0 points1 point ago

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Spelling/grammar conventions really didn't become standardized until the 19th century.

[–]ClampingNomads 0 points1 point ago

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I think a grammar nazi is just what's missing from that boat!

(since it's a boat, maybe they meant buoys)

[–]zeron5 -1 points0 points ago

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Gotta love the Democracy majority rule over the minority, eh!

[–]Bipolarruledout 0 points1 point ago

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This will always be a problem with no universal definition of "morality", granted this is taken rather far to its extreme.

[–]SupaFlySnookums -1 points0 points ago

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Nice! Now that's efficiency!

[–]UbermenschSIX55321 -5 points-4 points ago

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Thats why we dominated and enslaved them, ability for complex planning.

[–]KUSHSUPREMACY -2 points-1 points ago

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thuglife.

[–]TheContrarian2 -2 points-1 points ago

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Humans treated humans this way - for business. For cotton and corn. Shameful.

[–]TheContrarian2 0 points1 point ago

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Oh, and notice, that this was the REGULATED version. This got the British Governments stamp of approval. I'd hate to see what was really happening when the British Navy wasn't watching.

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