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How I imagine Christians who try to start arguments in r/atheism (imgur.com)
submitted 1 year ago by efrance1
[–]analogporn 46 points47 points48 points 1 year ago
Anyone care to explain to me why cats are so fucking athletic? Really. That fucking cat moved it's legs faster than anything I've ever seen fucking move.
[–]indeed_something 41 points42 points43 points 1 year ago*
1) Cats are evolved from hunters and unlike human hunters, cats don't have projectile weapons. Their ancestors were naturally selected for the speed needed to kill.
2) The slick surface of bathtub and the adrenaline rush in the cat are contributing.
3) Cats are very small compared to humans. This makes more of a difference than you might think.
When you take a cube and reduce each side by half, you reduce the surface area of each side by to 1/4 but the volume (and thus weight) of the cube by to 1/8th. This means that when you're tiny, a little bit of muscle goes a long, long way.
On the other hand, elephants have enough muscle to lift entire tree trunks, but not enough muscle to jump, not even a centimeter. Size has benefits (more capacity for overall strength, etc.) and costs (need more food, reduced jumping abilities compared to size, etc.).
http://www.smithsonianeducation.org/educators/lesson_plans/size_shapes_animals/index.html has a .pdf that explains 3) in detail.
edit: correction by inglorious applied to text
[–]malmac 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago
I think somehow you might have just given the finest explanation of the difference between horsepower (cat) and torque (elephant) that I have ever heard?
[–]awesomeideas 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago
I'm not sure why you put a question mark at the end of your sentence, but, other than that, I completely agree?
[–]riotingchimps 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
I'm Ron Burgundy?
[–]Sab666 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Go fuck yourself San Diego..
[–]malmac 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
I don't really know why I put that question mark there either...it was just sort of the way I heard myself in my brain at the time, I guess...
[–]indeed_something 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
It's not my explanation. Science has known about it for centuries. It's a shame schools don't do a better job of teaching the square-cube law--it shows the power of mathematics for explaining how life works.
[–]My_soliloquy 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
Science!
[–]inglorious 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Reduce area TO 1/4... Reduce volume TO 1/8...
Sieg heil...
[–]Hydros 56 points57 points58 points 1 year ago
God made them that way.
[–]nintennuendo 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
So you can't explain that?
[–]willricci 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
Didn't he just say that?
[–]RobotBuddha 24 points25 points26 points 1 year ago
Cat goes in, cat goes out. Never a miscommunication. Can't explain cat.
[–]TheAughtSpectrum 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
Cat goes in, cat goes meow.
[–]kookman 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I mean the cat slips in, the cat slips out. You can't explain cat
[–]pineapplol 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago*
IANAS but Evolution, specifically Natural selection. There was some selection pressure for them to be fast. It was probably that cats ancestors needed to catch prey, they were faster than their competitors so were able to catch more, and therefore were more fit.
As for how? No idea, probably some different ratio of muscle type that allows for fast contractions but low stamina.
[–]beadydoer 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago
"catch pray". /r/atheism. awesome.
[–]pineapplol 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Haha, good catch. Fixed.
[–]bernlin2000 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Adrenaline: we all can do amazing things when under heavy stress :-P
[–]sfwlz 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Low framerate
[–]Friendly_hazard 271 points272 points273 points 1 year ago
It's funny, the gif repeats as often as some of the "arguments" used.
[–]RopePlay 24 points25 points26 points 1 year ago
Oh, you cheeky little monkey.
[–]bernlin2000 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
Well, ape, but close enough!
[–]ummwut 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago
at least the cat eventually escapes... some come and argue the same broken point over and over.
i dont usually get headaches from idiocy, but when i do, its from repetitive facepalming.
[–]FoxifiedNutjob -19 points-18 points-17 points 1 year ago
The thing I hate the most about religion is there is no debate, you are 'not allowed to talk about it'. Yeah, isn't that what a child molester tells his victims too?
[–]GuardianReflex 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago
This is not always the case, even if they are wrong I appreciate that they will participate In civil debate.
I imagine you are being downvoted because your comment about religions undeserved excused status made a comparison is a bit touchy and not entirely an accurate analogy of the situation.
[–]sayrith 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago
first rule of christianity is......
[–]CaptOblivious 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
Don't question the book. ?
[–]sayrith 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
you havent seen fight club have you?
[–]CaptOblivious 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I have but we aren't talking about reality here, we are talking about religion, the farthest possible thing from reality to actually affect reality EVER.
[–]mytittyass 372 points373 points374 points 1 year ago
The only difference is that I feel sorry for the cat.
[–]singul 105 points106 points107 points 1 year ago
Also the cat will learn from its mistakes.
[–]DiscoDonkey 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago
The cat also never caused any major human atrocity, other than lol cats of course
[–]NonAmerican 155 points156 points157 points 1 year ago
The cat is also a much more beautiful creature than christianity.
[–]herblette 24 points25 points26 points 1 year ago
They are brought into a country and then start killing off the native wildlife. Pretty much on par so far. They are cuter though. I'll give you that.
[–]averyv 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago
I dunno man, I used to go to church camp. There was always some cute Christian tail around...
[–]Ashdown 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago
Christians are generally more inclined to experiment than cats in my experience. :3
[–]Catmolestar 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago
He's right and I should know!
[–]ByDarwinsBeard 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago
You sick fuck. :p
[–]CroSSGunS 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
A cat is fine too
[–]minno 161 points162 points163 points 1 year ago
You ever been to /r/DebateAnAtheist? It's full of IF THERES NO GOD THEN HOW DID UNIVERSE START!? CHECKMATE ATHEISTS! posts.
[–]Disgod 32 points33 points34 points 1 year ago
My favorite part about 99% of the questions is that they are answered in the FAQ, but asked as if they're Thomas Aquinas breaching new theological grounds.
[–]tracism 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
There are a lot of pieces of that FAQ that need to be rewritten. For example, the section on the Omniscience Paradox:
"Some bits of knowledge are unknowable by definition, such as 'Nobody knows if X is true'. If this is a true statement, God would know it. If God knew it, it wouldn't be true. "
Seriously? That's a horrible summary of it that would make an awful lot of Christians think that the writer is a moron.
[–]dwaxe 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Anyone can edit the FAQ...
[–]Algernon_Asimov 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Well... maybe to the people asking the questions, they are broaching new theological grounds. New to them, that is.
[–]LRE 81 points82 points83 points 1 year ago
I just spent 30 minutes on that subreddit. Initial impression is that the theists on there have only the most tenuous understanding of logic, or even just consistency. I wish I could take a look inside their mind, 'cause it felt like this. Still reading through some, though.
[–]ookiisask 106 points107 points108 points 1 year ago
This was my experience with that sub.
[–]NotAThrowAwayGuys 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago
Not even sure why I bothered going in there, that was my exact reaction.
[–]ineedateam1 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
that was my exact reaction
[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 1 year ago
So that's what circular reasoning looks like!
[–]Namiriel 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago
Circular reasoning works because... (REPEAT)
[–]mokeymanq 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
while (true)
{
System.out.print ("circular reasoning works because ");
}
[–]CrazedToCraze 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
do { IsCorrect = Reasoning(arg1, arg2); } while (IsCorrect == false);
?
[–]nomatu18935 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
saved as "themindofachristian.jpg"
[–]instapunish 34 points35 points36 points 1 year ago
Heh, I just browsed through it, and 95% of the arguments could be handled by the FAQ here.
[–]pahncrd 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago
Well, if their goal was to actually learn, then there wouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately, they are already begging the question and will do anything to preserve a conclusion that exists without the logic supporting it.
[–]anonish2 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
"but if you just accept personal experience as a source of evidence... experiential knowledge means its true to you and that makes it true"
[–]pahncrd 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago
But it doesn't really, not even if your experiences are taken as fact. For example. Let's say that every single time you pray for rain, it rains. Even though such a thing isn't likely, let's for the sake of argument say it is true. Even so, it is not proof of anything in particular. There are more or less endless reasons why such an event might occur, everything from deities, aliens, hallucinations, living in a simulation or simple implausible, but possible, coincidence. So even if personal experience is taken as fact, it is not proof beyond the occurrence taking place, and says nothing of the mechanism. The mechanism is merely assumed from there by the party experiencing the event, but it is not proof of the person's belief system.
Even if there was absolute proof of god to you, it would not be proof of Christianity, merely that proof of a deity type entity was presented to you. Any beliefs as to the mechanism of the deity, the will or capability of the deity would be nothing more than assumptions. Hell, you cannot even rule out insanity or that another more powerful, but mundane alien species is having fun at your expense.
Even if one assumes the existence of legitimate miracles, the possible explanations for them could be nearly unlimited if you take confirmation bias out of the equation.
[–]cultured_banana_slug 37 points38 points39 points 1 year ago
The one main reason I totally wrote off religions is because they simply cannot agree on the most basic fundamentals. How many gods are there? Can't agree. What do they want? Can't agree. Why did they create the world? Can't agree. Why did they create humanity? Can't agree. What do they want us to do? Can't agree. What have they got planned for us? Can't agree. What happens when we die? Can't agree. What do we need to do to go to the happy place when we die? Can't agree. Is there even a happy place at all? Can't agree. Do we go to a happy place or are we reincarnated? Can't agree.
If religion is just another way of understanding the world, and no religion can agree with even a few other religions on the most fundamental workings of reality, then it just doesn't work. If there can be a thousand different answers to the same basic question, then the system offering answers isn't offering answers at all. It's just offering opinions. Opinions aren't answers. You can't build bridges with opinions.
Religion had thousands of years to figure out how the world worked. It couldn't even figure out why children were born male or female, ffs.
[–]midnightbean 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago
Before I say anything... I'm a fire breathing atheist, I eat christians for breakfast with a side of non believing juice. Now.. so i'm not heavily downvoted based on stupid ass little reddit kids who think in baseball team ways.
What is this religion? A generalization? So called religious groups haven't concerned themselves so much with understanding the world as it has trying to explain it. They would be actually testing things like scientists if they wanted to understand, they already understand though, they already think they have the answers. Some don't even care about the world at all. But in all, they're all just generalizations of certain ideologies like philosophies are.
Also, you're thinking of religions as one big group that can't get along, this is like wondering why an objectivist and a skepticist can't get along, so you don't believe in philosophy and wrote it off too.
I'm just being fair and objective here, as anyone should.
[–]PositivelyClueless 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
His/her point is that if religious groups receive the word of god(s), that this word should be more or less the same all over the world and time. But it isn't - it is as different as the humans and their way of life. So, it's not god's (gods') word but that of humans.
Maybe I misunderstand yours or his/hers post - but I do agree with both - but your post sounded as if you don't agree with cultured banana slug?
[–]midnightbean 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Yes, I see what you mean. But.. it's completely within anyone or number of peoples power to lie or get delusional. Some use this same argument on occupy wall street, but it's not a good one I don't think.
Yes, I don't. I think groups period are pretty harmful period...I've seen it first hand even in smaller groups and philosophical ideologies. You always get stupid people who latch on and just think exactly the same as what's been set up for the group, everyone should be thinking for themselves I think and challenging each other.
[–]herrmister 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago
When I used to point out religions' woeful inability to explain natural phenomenon, the response I got was "But (insert religion here) isnt about physical explanations. It's about something more profoundly spiritual". This right after attempting to use some obscure text as proof of divine revelation.
[–]curious_redhead 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
While I like your point with regards to an objective truth standpoint, I think you are expecting too much from religion. From a historical and evolutionary perspective religion is mostly about social cohesion, control, and in some cases education. The thousands of years religion has been in existence have been spent on perfecting these goals, largely successfully.
[–]Jedi_MindTrick -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
Woah, thanks for that comment. That is an interesting perspective that, although maybe internalized and sub-conscious in my reasoning, I haven't really considered before. That really makes me dislike many major religions even more now! It's pretty sad that our world's societies are so embedded with these constructs...
[–]ShimadaKambei 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
You should try that out on the next storm troopers you come across.
[–]spuddlz 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago
Where did god come from if there was no universe?
[–]The_Mexorcist26 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago
Multiverse. Oh yeah, forgot they don't know shit about theoretical physics.
[–]s2011 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago
and you do?
[–]haleyrae21 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
It's like even though I had a comment section full of people warning me against it, I had to see for myself. Does anyone have some rope? An excess of pills? A dull knife, perhaps.
[–]luckycypher 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago
Just went there, had to go to /r/picsofdeadkids for a palette cleanser.
[–]minno 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago
Fuck you for reminding me that that exists. I...*fetal position*
[–]spuddlz 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago
dead fetus position
FTFY
[–]czechreck 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
Zing
[–]zergl1ng 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
If the drug dealers didn't kill Kennedy, then why were there chemtrails at 9/11?
[–]big-o-notation 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
If god doesn't exist, who wrote the bible?
[–]CaptOblivious 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Men that wanted to control the behavior of other people.
Shit, even if the one and only GOD wrote the original, longhand with a quill pen that happened before anyone else saw the manuscript.
[–]GurgehMorat 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
If god wrote the bible, why is he such an inconsistent, genocidal, hate-filled, evil, occassionally compassionate, misogynist who has made a world in which most of his "beloved" creations are doomed to live brutal short and pain-filled lives in cultures where they are not even exposed to the "correct" religion and therefore don't even stand a chance of being saved?
[–]cortana 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Because people are dicks. Yay people! That's just how we are! Let's build a rationalization scheme that lets me believe being an asshole is RIGHT!
[–]justin1291 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Just curious if someone could help me out. I wouldn't necessarily call myself atheist, but I definitely reject Christianity. One of the reason i've always been reluctant to rule out a greater being, not necessarily the god worshiped by much of the world. But I can'r fathom how the universe started. Even that small dot of energy and heat that supposedly expanded, where did that come from? It's always something i've dealt with.
[–]TheSeparateFirst 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
The good answer is that we just don't know. It's silly to believe in a god to explain something you can't explain, when you can simply say that you don't know and leave it at that.
Most atheists don't disbelieve in deities, we simply don't think that they are a good/likely explanation. I don't know what 'caused' the big bang (if cause is the appropriate word), but I think it probably wasn't an inexplicable supernatural being that exists in a purely hypothetical state of being outside of everything we know.
So that's one perspective.
[–]ckwop 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
The good answer is that we just don't know.
As a species, we need to learn say "I don't know." more often. For some reason, we suffer from a cognitive spasm to just make stuff up when we don't know. Across humanity, it is seen as a weakness to not know things.
However, precisely the opposite is the case. Saying "I don't know" is not a sign of weakness. It's a rallying cry; it's a sign that we have work to do.
Right on, I believe the irregularity of subatomic particles may hold some answers
[–]c0l245 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago
The god that you're referring to is called the "god of gaps." This is simply a belief in god b/c you don't have an answer to how or why something happens.
This god has been continually shrinking throughout history. This god used to explain all kinds of natural events until we now understand them.
If you accept that we can eventually (however many years from now) figure out how the universe started, then this god is going to be explained away as well.
But still, I'm saying the very beginning. It's hard for me not to sum up the fact something exists to something supernatural. I don't think science can ever explain how something came from nothing.
[–]c0l245 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
By your same logic then, who created the supernatural?
Did that something come from nothing? And if that can happen, why can't the universe?
I understand that, however the creation of the universe out of nothing is just odd. I think the fact that some overarching being creating it is possible. You can't tell me you don't doubt in the back of your mind the creation of the universe. Where the fuck did it come from? Energy all of it?
So, . . here we are.
I believe that the universe came from literally nothing and it doesn't break the second law of thermodynamics. And has been pretty well explained.
You believe that some being was created from nothing to which no laws apply and that being has consciousness, human characteristics and all. Your god has not been explained, but we just go, "quit thinking and accept it."
If I could explain to you how the universe could come from nothing, would that put an end to the made up idea of god for you?
Of course it would, but you can't explain it. That the fun of it. You can explain how the universe started. It at best will be educated speculation.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago*
Well, where did God come from?
The truth is that even if we for some reason assume that the universe couldn't have come from nothing (which we just don't know, since the laws of thermodynamics only apply to things within our universe), postulating God as the cause just gives us even more questions to answer, since God is in a sense much more complex than the universe.
Very few atheists rule out deities. Most of us just withhold judgment until we see some evidence one way or the other. This is the difference between being a gnostic atheist and an agnostic atheist. There are many things you could imagine that may or may not exist; fairies, celestial teapots, parallel universes. There's just no reason to take it into account in your daily life until you know.
[–]jimicus 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
But I can'r fathom how the universe started. Even that small dot of energy and heat that supposedly expanded, where did that come from? It's always something i've dealt with.
I'd turn that around slightly.
There are a whole bunch of questions we simply don't know the answer to. Some we may never know the answer to. Are you prepared to accept the answer of someone who has a big book but won't be drawn beyond "an all-powerful being did it"? And if pressed further, ultimately answers with something along the lines of "Because I say so, okay!"?
Most of us stopped accepting "Because I say so, okay!" as a sensible argument some time around the age of 6-8.
[–]nexttonormal41 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago
My most used argument against Christians in high school: "So, have you read the Bible before?"
that is elaborate, you evil genius
[–]owoog 38 points39 points40 points 1 year ago
There's not even anything in the tub to harm it.
[–]GiskardReventlov 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago
Watch yourself or God wil- Oh, I get it.
[–]IAmAQuantumMechanic 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago
You cannot prove that.
[–]ShroomRocket 40 points41 points42 points 1 year ago
At least the cat made it out.
[–]kcroke 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago
Great. I don't know about you, but I come to r/atheism for picutres of cats.
[–]RobotBuddha 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
I come to everything in hopes of seeing a cat.
[–]guywhosucksattf2 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago
A repost, but a perfect repost.
[–]efrance1[S] 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago
from r/funny, i know, but i felt it belonged here
[–]otakuman 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
By definition, cross-posts are not reposts. It's in the reddit FAQ.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
All I see is an innocent little kitty cat daftly afraid of water.
OOOooohhhhhh. I get it.
[–]leorolim 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I think it's more afraid from lack of grip.
[–]rathum2323 21 points22 points23 points 1 year ago
side-splitting laughter for me.
[–]celestialbound 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
Same! I giggled like a little school girl!
[–]phobosDemos 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
YouTube version
[–]diddlysquatt 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
Just somebody posting a video of their cat falling into a bathtub... 750,000 views. Mindless.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
The worst is when they try to earn cheap brownie points/upvotes by posting topics like "Hey atheists, we Christians as a whole need to be way more tolerant and accept science!"
I can't help myself trying to read into their thoughts, which read, "Oh yeah, atheists will love that, heck yeah, front page here I come!"
[–]ForgetSanity 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago
okay..okay.. im going in... i got this.... okay... not to many replies.... okay.. bit of hate but i can handle it.... fuck... fuck..SHIT GET ME OUT OF HERE SHIT SHIT HELP FUCK!
[–]rats7eli 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago
This is probably the most accurate thing i've ever seen. EVER.
[–]kurotenshi15 37 points38 points39 points 1 year ago
As a Christian, I apologize for some people of my religion trying to start or back up ignorant arguments, because in every walk of life...there are idiots :)
[–][deleted] 67 points68 points69 points 1 year ago
You can't really apologize for them, because most of the ones we take issue with don't want to be apologized for.
[–]hendriks 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago
He also can't apologize for the christian majority that is needed to keep gay marriage illegal in the US.
I can probably come up with another 100 examples of how the moderate religious facilitate things of questionable ethics and morality by the more outspoken minority. I need to calm down though, take my pills. Think happy thoughts.
[–]kurotenshi15 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago
Point taken, just tryin to apologize for the ones I can :)
[–]Aloveoftheworld 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago
you can only apologize for yourself
[–]Anon_is_a_Meme 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
I think it's valid to apologize for some dependents, e.g. pets, young children, elderly relatives with dementia, etc.
[–]curtdammit 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago
Good on you then.
[–]thesorrow312 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
Not to mention he probably shares some of the same views, otherwise if he were perfectly logical and void of supernatural beliefs, he would reject Christianity.
[–]efrique 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago*
It's really sweet of you, but you can't apologize for something you didn't do and don't agree with.
You're not responsible for it, and your apology can't change their behaviour. There can be no contrition.
[–]kurotenshi15 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
well I can try :) but thank you for considering it :)
[–]What_Is_X 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago
Can christians and atheists please stop apologising for their respective groups? No single person can speak for all of us of a certain faith or lack thereof.
[–]Hippocampus 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
It still keeps things civil though.
A person might not be the official spokeperson for a group, but when a group screws up big time, a simple apology still helps smooth things over
[–]mephistoA 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
is there such a thing as a good Christian argument? i'm not being a dick, i just haven't heard one. whenever christians try to argue for their faith, they end up like that cat.
[–]Anon_is_a_Meme 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
The best (as in most convincing) turn out to use sneaky logic and rhetorical tricks. That some Christians use them (I'm looking at you, William Lane Craig) says a lot about their sense of ethics.
[–]hendriks -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
I don't want to do this whole discussion again (and again and again), but you as a non-critical thinker who believes in magic, you as someone who lets non-logical reasoning into your moral decision making, you (and the billions moderate believers out there just like you) thereby create the basis that the the real religious fundamentalist and bigots need to exists and grow on. Who decides which magical idea is crazy? Especially if you all feel you can replace logic with faith that explains everything.
TL;DR: start apologizing for yourself, because you're making it possible.
[–]kurotenshi15 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
Well I'm sorry that you feel the need to be critical about every decision a human being, such as I, chooses to make, I'm sorry that I have decided to take a path that is different from yours therefore you see me as inferior, I'm sorry that you, as a human being, are so closed minded that nothing else in the world seems possible besides the closed room you have shut yourself in, that is your bias. I believe in logic and faith because they can work harmoniously. I only apologize because I feel sympathy in the case that I know some people refuse to see logic in the bible and look at everything as a miracle that spontaneously appears.
TL;DR Don't be a nazi on people who believe different than you, I just feel for the redditors who are frustrated by non-logic thinkers
[–]Fauster 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
It's fine for religious people to start arguments. There are no hard feelings, most of us enjoy the debate. For one thing, many of us would still be religious if we didn't get drawn into arguments like we see here every day.
And more importantly, the value of an argument isn't always best measured by whether an opinion is changed, but by whether another's perspective is better understood.
[–]RobotBuddha 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I like....well, dislike but am amused by the fact that you got flack for apologizing for them.
[–]Rogue2166 -7 points-6 points-5 points 1 year ago*
You guys downvote him on the basis hes Christian and nothing else? Pitiful.
EDIT When I posted this the above post was -4 in karma.
[–]rironin 19 points20 points21 points 1 year ago
How about on the basis that it's a paraphrase of a recent submission that got plenty of attention on /r/atheism, and highlighted the fact that when moderate theists apologize for non-moderate theists, it's sort of... useless?
[–]Panzerschreckk 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Not really, I do understand why it would look as if that was the reason, but after the recent influx of apologies from christian people on behalf of the other more ignorant christians, it got kinda annoying. In fact there was a front page post asking christians not to do it due to everyone doing it and everyone in r/atheism has heard it at least ten times.
We get it, not all Christians are ignorant, in fact, many of my friends call themselves Christians but do not try and make ignorant arguments with me.
[–]EmptyAndFrantic -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
You make wild assumptions about why someone might downvote a person? Pitiful.
[–]DHumefan 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago
Extremely accurate.
[–]xcvb3459 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
How do you imagine muslims and buddhists?
[–]mushroomchow 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Proof that christians can walk on water!
[–]preston159 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
This is exactly how my parents are when they attempt to debate me, and my brother.
[–]f0rt3hl0lz 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
repost
[–]j0n3z3y 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
What is this unknown territory... oh no, oh no! get me out of here! My claws are ineffective, save me jesus!
[–]RyanRoboticist 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
I bet I can take it, I can do this. Wait no, I don't like this. Uh-Oh I'm falling in. Oh god I'm stuck. OH GOD! GET ME OUT GET ME OUT GET ME OUT GET ME OUT GET ME OUT!
[–]PolarTX 24 points25 points26 points 1 year ago
cirle jerkin' it pretty good huh?
[–]ByJiminy 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago
Why do you think that bathtub is so slippery?
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[–]codenhell 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago
You just took circle jerking to a level it's never been.
[–]routari -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago
Find a gap and grab a cock buddy!
[–]raskolnikov- 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago
I'm pretty sure that christian posts in r/atheism are a myth, like unicorns. Either that or I never read far enough down the page to find them.
[–]mishagale 18 points19 points20 points 1 year ago
/r/atheism/new
[–]Belruel 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago
Check out the new tab sometimes and you'll find them. They are common and cover no new ground, so they are usually not voted up.
Lots of "I'm a christian, but I am logical! What do you think of that atheists?" or "As a christian I apologize for other christians" or "A question for atheists"
[–]executex 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
Haha yeah, "I'm a Christian AND logical---checkmate atheists, you lose!"
It's like as if they think they are the first human ever to think deeply about existence or something.
[–]executex 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
It's like as if they think they are the first human ever to think of it.
[–]efrique 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
they don't hit the front page. You see plenty if you watch new closely
Nah, it's been pretty recent the past month or so. In general they're usually fairly well upvoted in comments as long as they're willing to talk rather than just throw insults. One of the better things that's happened to the subreddit in my opinion. Even if only to give evidence that we're not all a bunch of people sitting around and stewing in hatred of every person who believes in a god.
[–]Lauraxrae 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
gotta love blue bengal kittens, just adopted one myself :)
[–]EvOllj 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
except the cat has not abused and mutilated countless children
[–]Ericgzg 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
hahahaha that's fucking awesome
[–]hanahou 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago*
Bwahahahahahah. man I just spit up my Pepsi. I thought the baby girl eyes rolling back gif was funny last night and now this one....bwahahaha my stomach hurts from Pepsi gas and laughing so hard.
[–]famousright 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I love how ice cold kitten's face is.
[–]Justthomas 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Do they come out?
[–]dcgi 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Genius.
[–]mephistoA 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
that's the funniest gif i've ever seen. should have posted it to r/funny.
[–]Dareall 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Oh thank you, I laughed so hard while listening to Stigmata.
[–]endorphine_ 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
i want to upvote the Gif so often that my mouse would die :)
laughing awesomely right now! Thank you sir
[–]DouglasRochford 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
i think i just found one of my new favorite gifs. ty. - dougrochford
[–]FaerieStories 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
How I imagine reposts under different titles
[–]perfectgyroscope 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Do they exist in here? I hardly ever see a religious person in r/atheism. Or do they get downvoted too quickly?
[–]JoshMcRogue 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I first thought the tub had water in it and lolcat representing Jesus not walking on water
[–]timeintheocean 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Nice.
[–]painperdu 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Perfect.
[–]ecoutercavalier 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
needs captions
[–]admiraawesome 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
awww poor kity :(
[–]ironcoffin 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
That's right christians. You fuck we us and we'll traumatize your cat. Bitch.
[–]worst-answer-ever 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
AKA closed mindedness arguing with closed mindedness. I wouldn't wanna touch either side.....
[–]RickRay1[] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Xians try to explain the supernatural with more supernatural bullshit ! Round and round we go, circular reasoning, just like the cat repeatedly trying to climb out of the tub. By the way, I love cats...great pets... usually more intelligent than godlodytes.
[–]quotient 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I'm STILL getting replies from a dumbass Christian from a thread where they started an argument and tried to convert me.
[–]Mauibuilt818 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
But....the bible is.......jesus is......you don't believe in anything........fuck you.
[–]whichgodisshittier 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I laughed so hard that my stomach hurts.
[–]Spaceosaurus 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
that made me lol. Even though im christian xD
[–]17Hongo 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
except the cat can't just turn off it's computer.
[–]needmoarbass 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I just geeked out. Really badly.
[–]1123581321345589144b 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
They have no idea about their intellectual inferiority.
[–]Awsome_Human 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Matthew 5:10-12
"Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven...."
Checkmate atheists.
[–]k2d 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
That's a lovely quote for explaining why Christians would want to approach a group of atheists and try to convert them. I do not understand in what way you consider it checkmate; what is the object of this hypothetical game of chess?
[–]malmac 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Objectivity has never been the intellectual premise of religion.
[–]christianloritz 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Everyone is wrong
[–]otakuman 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Extra credit for paradox.
[–]Blahblahblahinternet 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I will argue with you right now and win.
[–]ih8pyros 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
That is the most panic I have ever seen out of a cat.
[–]picado 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I think this is the same kitten:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/kitten-thinks-of-nothing-but-murder-all-day,9783/
I wish my cat was that industrious with his mental activity. I'm pretty sure all moments of his day are either thinking of nap or crapping on the floor.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
you imagine Christians to be hopelessly cute and innocent? Or just stupid and unaware?
[–]WolfCriedMe 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
This repost reminds me of an artist who creates a good song, then a band comes along and makes it GREAT!
Edit: Amazing
[–]Velocity17 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Best caption ever
[–]Slotos 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Oh hey, someone took my lolcat argument to the next level !!
[–]tantobourne 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Registering Analogy ... ... ... Analogy Registered. Analogy = Awesome.
[–]notmahtrowawayaccnt 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Relevant
[–]malmac 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I can understand your point of view, but the way those of us who are non-deistic see it is that there is A) no particularly convincing evidence of any kind of metaphysical presence in the universe; and B) no particular requirement for such a presence in any of the empirical investigations into the nature of life sciences or matter itself.
Given that, why postulate such a grand and overarching being when the only indicator of its existence is a very small collection of very ancient writings?
And seriously, a true atheist does not claim to know anything except the lack of objective, empirical evidence. But being human, we of course want to defend our position when it comes under attack, just like the religious want to. I wouldn't dare say we are perfect, and I am just as given to defending my lack of faith or belief as anybody.
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