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[–]SeparateCzechs 85 points86 points ago

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Webster University, in Webster Groves, MO? Just wait until you try getting a job with that degree, You'll know the answer is no. Not worth it.

[–]LP99 18 points19 points ago

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Had a good little chuckle when I saw that. Webster University isn't worth 20k a year.

[–]Mattagascar 5 points6 points ago

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Webster University isn't worth 2k a year.

[–]108241 3 points4 points ago

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That's what get for making up a mascot.

Stupid Gorlocks.

[–]Werderhea 2 points3 points ago

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I think you accidentally some words there.

[–]108241 9 points10 points ago

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Yeah, my college wasn't worth 20k a year either.

[–]Werderhea 0 points1 point ago

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I see that people have up voted you but I don't quite understand what you're trying to say.

[–]LanceCoolie 2 points3 points ago

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It's the Harvard of East Central Missouri!

[–]SeparateCzechs 0 points1 point ago

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So they'd have us believe... it's good for bid-ness.

[–]wtfusername 1 point2 points ago

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Yup, Live a block away. Parking sucks

[–]gilligan156 1 point2 points ago

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Lindenwood isn't much better. "Here's your degree. Now go find a job! Good luck, fucker!"

[–]mimus09 6 points7 points ago

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My friend studies music here, and he has a nice as setup at his house, which I have played with. He is quite good for only his Sophomore year. And btw, you guys live in STL area, I'm over at Olivette.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points ago

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college is all about what you put into it. even shitty college.

[–]noseforsharpies 0 points1 point ago

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college is all about what you put into it your body.

FTFY

[–]Werderhea -1 points0 points ago

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:) Agreed

[–]SeparateCzechs 1 point2 points ago

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The parking is better in Olivette, lol! There is a St. Louis reddit that is seriously underutilized.

[–]DZ302 4 points5 points ago

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Try going to Dalhousie University in Halifax, Canada...It's a very old school and the buildings and campus are scattered around downtown Halifax, which is also incredibly compact and crowded built around a Harbour...

The school has something 2,000 parking spots for 3,000 staff and 17,000 students. They also oversell the parking passes, so having one doesn't even guarantee you a spot.

It's so bad that a professor of 30 years quit his job over parking. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/08/30/ns-dalhousie-parking-prof-quits.html

[–]SeparateCzechs 0 points1 point ago

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Wow.

[–]mimus09 0 points1 point ago

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Gah, the only Redditors I know are the ones I've showed, less one guy that I recently met. But ya, Olivette is relatively small. Just 1-70 to Warson and up to Page.

[–]Letsgomine 1 point2 points ago

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The county is boring anyway... I much prefer the city.

[–]SeparateCzechs 0 points1 point ago

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And crowded in by Creve Coeur...

[–]mimus09 0 points1 point ago

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And U-city/ladue. Hate both of them. Well not hate, but just dislike.

[–]JimmyJamesMac 1 point2 points ago

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Wat?

[–]jasonbeee 0 points1 point ago

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Anything with "webster" in it...

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[–]SeparateCzechs 1 point2 points ago

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good for you.

[–]SeparateCzechs 1 point2 points ago

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Out of curiosity, not animosity, did you pay for your own education?

[–]fuckyeahbro 0 points1 point ago

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Did you just ask yourself a question?

[–]SeparateCzechs 0 points1 point ago

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No. I should have made it an edit, I was just adding on to my own comment, but fumbled it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Just wait until you try getting a job with that degree

And that differs from degrees at other universities... how?

[–]SeparateCzechs 2 points3 points ago

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I think it burns less if you paid state university tuition for the degree you cannot use, rather than three times that for the private university tuition for the the degree you cannot use. That's how!

[–]taozero 17 points18 points ago

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Point - Counterpoint. Well done.

[–]markisthis 12 points13 points ago

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[–]Damasticator 1 point2 points ago

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And for good measure, sit on this. Man I remember seeing this on Comedy Central in the early 90s and thinking, "This is the best comedy that will ever exist."

[–]ThePieWhisperer 1 point2 points ago

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Don't know why this got downvoted, this clip is awesome

[–]pgibso 11 points12 points ago

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20,000? Son, that was a steal.

[–]techmaster242 3 points4 points ago

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In which direction?

[–]schumph 8 points9 points ago

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The wrong direction.

[–]jb2lk 3 points4 points ago

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Seriously, I understand Stanford or Yale but who decided that 100k for a BS from a school no one has heard of is at all worth it?

[–]Robert_Arctor 1 point2 points ago

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The people whose exorbitant salaries depend on that tuition.

[–]5n0wflake -2 points-1 points ago

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Everyone is obsessed with the name of their school. What's in a name anyway? And why don't people choose majors that will actually GET them somewhere in life?! We are too caught up in the American dream. It does not mean, "do whatever you feel like and you will be successful." Funny when people think that this means that America has failed them. No, YOU have failed america.

[–]jb2lk 1 point2 points ago

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I'm sorry you didnt get into a school people have heard of :(

[–]Mojar88 0 points1 point ago

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So your saying people should be forced to do the "right" work?

[–]5n0wflake 0 points1 point ago

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I'm saying that people underestimate themselves and think that the one thing that they love to do is the only thing they can do. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. There is a reason for double majors and minors. Open up your options. Also, I have don't have a problem with people pursuing their dreams, but they need to know that the road will be rough and they shouldn't blame outside parties for their difficulties when they knew that it was going to be hard from the beginning. I'm sorry if I sound persnickety, I go to University and the whining gets old.

[–]KarmaKaiser 0 points1 point ago

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That's an astounding amount of cliche's per sentence.

[–]5n0wflake 0 points1 point ago

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Unfortunately, corny and cliche are what I do best... Damn.

[–]Ktmouse 11 points12 points ago

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I'd pay 50 bucks just to piss some rich dean off

[–]macktastick 5 points6 points ago

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But you're paying it to him/her - so it doesn't piss him/her off...

[–]Ktmouse 0 points1 point ago

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chances are not being able to park on his own campus one morning would still piss him off, but, well played...

[–]Dark_Shroud 0 points1 point ago

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If you research the story you'll find it won't be pissing him off since it was a temp parking spot that he let his wife use. The students park in the reserved spots and get heavily finned & possibly towed for it.

[–]Urikeme 5 points6 points ago

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Don't know if it's worth it. You should work it. Put your thang down, flip it, and reverse it.

[–]Damasticator 6 points7 points ago

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Ti esrever dna ti pilf, nwod gniht ym tup I. Ti esrever dna ti pilf, nwod gniht ym tup I.

[–]my_cat_joe 28 points29 points ago*

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College is a good time to be completely car-free and the campus design of many universities reflect this awesome ideal.

Edit: I wish I could reply to all these replies. Having a car is totally cool, but for most (well, American) people it's a convenience.

College isn't about convenience. It's about proving you can get stuff done while being totally inconvenienced and having fun and discovering who you are and what you want to know.

College is a great time to wander around on foot or bike or personal mobility device. It has bonuses. Your professors will see you more. Hot members of the opposite sex will see you more. You will get exercise. You will discover cool places to smoke weed.

I totally regret having a car in college. Learn from my mistake!

You don't need all the things you think you need. Improvising is fun. Ride-sharing is fun!

[–]blue_lotion 12 points13 points ago

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Many students don't have the opportunity to live on campus or even close to campus-such as myself when I was in college.

[–]JimmyJamesMac 4 points5 points ago

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You should have at least stayed in school long enough to take the "me, myself, and I" class.

[–]my_cat_joe 0 points1 point ago

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That would be a shame. Campus life is half the college experience.

[–]IAMnotBRAD 2 points3 points ago

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I would argue that it is more than half. And more than just 'the experience'. Campus life attributed more to my end result than classes did.

[–]Alinosburns 1 point2 points ago

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Yup, also depends on the uni/college too.

The university i currently go to had virtually no campus life. Mainly because of it's location.

Though not sure if it's just Australian university's in general that just suck, because the campus life isn't built in the same way it seems to be in the US and UK

[–]Taniwha_NZ 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, it's a cultural thing. In New Zealand and Australia, the vast majority of students live away from university, and what dorms exist are usually only for foreign students or others with specific needs.

To me, leaving home at age 16 or 17, and having to figure out how to live in a house with several other students, pay rent, do housework, cooking, shopping etcetera... was one of the most valuable experiences I got from varsity. Living in dormitories on campus is just horrible because you are effectively just living like older school-children, with nearly everything done for you by surrogate mothers.

Having your own house with no rules and total responsibility is a far better way to grow up, IMO.

[–]Ajdiv 1 point2 points ago

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I'd say free dinner and rent for a year is worth making fewer friends.

[–]cly8419 0 points1 point ago

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It's also half the price, and money doesn't grow on trees.

[–]eandi 44 points45 points ago

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My life in College got about 1000 times better after I got my car. For the first couple years it was fine to explore the area around my campus but having the chance at weekend road trips and not being a slave to bus schedules is way better in the upper years when the allure of drinking wednesday through sunday has worn off.

[–]Zaziel 7 points8 points ago

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In Ann Arbor, having a car you use daily for school is a special kind of hell.

[–]TheCrawlingKingSnake 0 points1 point ago

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Upvote for A2

[–]TaintedSquirrel 2 points3 points ago*

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I lived across the street from campus for 4 years, cycled everywhere. It kept me in great shape, and saved gas money. Had a car but only ever used it for grocery shopping. You'd be surprised how fast you can get around town on a good bike, especially when you tactfully run red lights. edit: For the non-cyclist Redditors, stop signs and traffic lights are treated as yields when cycling. http://www.lostrivercycling.org/idcode.html

[–]vertexvortex 38 points39 points ago

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tactfully run red lights

FUCK YOU

[–]TaintedSquirrel 0 points1 point ago*

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Red lights and stop signs are treated as yields by cyclists. Formally called the Idaho Yield Law. Some states might not have adopted or changed their cycling laws, but I've run a few red lights right next to police officers. As long as you yield right-of-way, you're fine. Generally speaking it's the law all cyclists follow, except those who want to be safe, they will not run any stop signs or lights. It might surprise some people, but sometimes lights are red when there is no thru-traffic and it's actually safe to cross the intersection. If someone on a bicycle cuts you off, they are an "asshole" and are also breaking the law, since they are not yielding right of way.

[–]adambard 0 points1 point ago

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I'll slow down but roll through a stop sign (as will most other cyclists and drivers), but red light means stop.

Look at it this way: if you didn't come to a full stop approaching the light, you probably didn't get a good enough look at traffic. And if you did stop, what's the harm in standing there a few more moments.

Do this even if only to induce good will towards cyclists everywhere. Whenever a city wants to put in bike infrastructure, the "cyclists are reckless assholes who run red lights" crowd comes out of the woodwork. It'd help the case if they weren't, you know, right.

[–]vertexvortex 0 points1 point ago

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LA LA LA LA MY CYCLIST RAGE DOES NOT ALLOW ME TO HEAR LOGIC.

Ok but seriously, most of the cyclists here training for races seem to have such disdain and disregard for their own damn safety, let alone relevant traffic laws.

Please be safe guys! Alsodon'thitmycarIdon'twantjailthanks.

[–]JavaLSU 27 points28 points ago

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especially when you tactfully run red lights.

no.

[–]Enterice 5 points6 points ago

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In my town it's twice as expensive to live across the street from campus, driving is actually the economical way to go.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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how large is this town? it's not a big deal to bike 5 or 10 miles.

[–]Enterice -1 points0 points ago

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It's not a big deal to bike that at all, it just costs twice as much for half the apartment. I loved living right on top of campus, I could walk to literally everything, but it's just so damn expensive.

[–]akachela 4 points5 points ago

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tactfully run red lights.

Bikers like you are the reason I feel the urge to open my car door into your path. Sharing the road works both ways.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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especially when you tactfully run red lights.

Or you live in a town with designated cycleways that connect everything almost in a direct line. Germany, though.

[–]badredah 1 point2 points ago

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Why the hell is reddit so pissy about people biking through red lights? Bikes are not cars. Your vision and control is significantly better on a bicycle. Besides, it's not like people barrel through the intersection. They slow down or stop and look first.

[–]CleverRedditHandle 0 points1 point ago

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Why the hell is reddit so pissy about people biking through red lights? Bikes are not cars.

They are a vehicle and are obliged to follow the same rules as cars when on the road. Reckless bikers DO hit pedestrians.

Besides, it's not like people barrel through the intersection.

Oh, some people sure do. I've come close to hitting and being hit by bikers like this. I can guess the same has happened to many redditors, hence the hate.

[–]badredah 0 points1 point ago

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Well I certainly have no respect or sympathy for reckless bikers. However, most cities with a lot of bikers are very concentrated with small intersections with lights at every single one (i.e. Boston/New York). In places like that, it's very easy to see oncoming vehicles/pedistrians and to clear intersections quickly.

[–]CleverRedditHandle 1 point2 points ago

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As a car driver, I think what worries me with bikers is their unpredictability. You see a biker at an intersection, and you have NO FUCKING IDEA what they're going to do, because a lot of them do not actually follow traffic signals, laws, or even common sense. As a driver, it puts me on edge whenever I see a biker, so I think that's where at least MY hostility comes from.

[–]bowery_boy 0 points1 point ago

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You don't get pussy if you take your date on a bus....... Just sayin

[–]dontnation 4 points5 points ago

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Not in my experience, just sayin.

[–]ShawnGupta -2 points-1 points ago

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Not everyone has as much game as you do...

or brags about bagging homeless chicks. :-P

[–]dontnation 2 points3 points ago

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Or maybe not everyone lives in places where cars aren't all that practical, or convenient.

[–]ShawnGupta 0 points1 point ago

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You are taking this way too seriously. :-)

[–]bowery_boy -2 points-1 points ago

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sorry to hear that.... well when you're 50 and have a corvette... trust me it will work. It'll be like they put a magnet for pussy under the hood

[–]dontnation 0 points1 point ago

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hmmm, over the hill and riding around in a mid-life crisis mobile trying to bag the kind of skanks that are into a guy for his car? I think I'll pass.

[–]bowery_boy 0 points1 point ago

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you say that now..... but pulling 20 year old tail can't be that bad right? How many creepy old guys do you see pulling that off? Go to any major city, go to a nice resturant and sit back and watch the action... its creepy

[–]eandi 4 points5 points ago

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The day I got my car I got a number, just sayin.

[–]bowery_boy -2 points-1 points ago

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annnnnnd exactly my point!!!!!!

no girl wants to walk somewhere on a date.... if you have a big date coming up rent a car or hire a driver.... just sayin

[–]notcaptainkirk 0 points1 point ago

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False.

[–]dontnation 0 points1 point ago

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Obviously this guy is alpha and knows what he is talking about. I don't think he'll be swayed.

[–]bowery_boy -2 points-1 points ago

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there must have been a pussy mangnet on the bus.....oooooor you are dating sketchy homeless people.....

no one WORTH dating would go on a bus...just sayin

[–]boatski 5 points6 points ago

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Walking 25 miles back and forth four days a week would be a great idea!

[–]syuk 1 point2 points ago

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When I was at college I had to walk 25 miles back and forth four days a week in blinding snow storms, uphill each way, with only plastic bags for shoes.

[–]zitacos 2 points3 points ago

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What if your life doesn't solely revolve around campus in a 5 mile radius? I lived in a rented 3 bedroom home in another town. Live in a dorm, a hole the size of some prison cells, or have a house, yard, and garage? Not a hard choice.

I can't imagine being completely trapped at a college without a car. Even in college I would drive distances. Have to go to job interviews a few hours away, maybe visit family? Hell even just go 20-30 miles outside of campus to hang out somewhere.

[–]renegadecanuck 14 points15 points ago

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It takes over an hour to get to my college via bus (even longer if I don't start or end class during one of the four times a day my city has a direct bus going there). It takes 15-25 minutes (depending on traffic) to get there via car. I also need to be able to reliably drive to work (so I can pay for school). Not to mention the ability to drive to visit friends or run errends.

TL;DR: fuck being "completely car-free". It's far from an "awesome ideal".

[–]nougatmachine 3 points4 points ago

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Student discovers how bad postwar American city design and transit is; accepts its status quo requirement of ownership of a vehicle costing at minimum $12,000 dollars new, plus insurance, licensing, registration. Sees nothing wrong with it, instead sneers at people who wish to wean themselves of the vehicle.

[–]Alinosburns 2 points3 points ago

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really a vehicle costing 12,000 dollars new. What kind of uni student is buying a new car. When my car got smashed up at the start of the year. it cost me 3k for a 2001 Ford Falcon. That hasn't had a single issue since i bought it. Cost me 432 dollars in 3rd party insurance.

This is in Australia mind you so i assume that in america cost's go down some more.

Where i live currently. To get to uni without a car, would be a 12km walk/bicycle ride to the train station(7km walk to the nearest bus stop, which takes an extremely roundabout route to the station). To catch a train that leaves only once an hour. and takes an hour to get from the station to my university.

Or i can go with a 30Km drive to an alternative train station that leaves every 10 minutes and only takes an hour to get from home to the university.

Oh move closer to the university you say, well aside from the fact that the cost of living per year would double instantly, i'd then need to find work that pays enough to cover those cost's and fit's around university. Since i wouldn't be able to drive to where i work now.


He wasn't sneering at people who wish to wean themselves of a vehicle he was instead stating the fact that what works for some doesn't work for other's

[–]renegadecanuck 1 point2 points ago

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Or you can, I dunno, buy a used car.

Also, it's a requirement now. Me taking the bus (and making it literally impossible to go from school to work on time) won't change the system. I would literally have less money without my car, as I would be unable to work (at least unable to work as often), and since I would also have less time to study, my grades would suffer.

Also, I'm Canadian, dumbass (hence renegadecanuck). You try standing outside in -40 for 20 minutes waiting for your bus.

[–]Taniwha_NZ 0 points1 point ago

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When I was in high-school, back in New Zealand where you could get a full adult driver's license at age 15, in the rural area I grew up in, everybody in high-school got a car on their 15th birthday. None of us were rich so every single person drove a 2nd-hand shitpile of a car that cost $1000 or less, and usually had no insurance and wasn't legally registered. Admittedtly this is not very smart, and these days the law is considerably more effectively enforced. But the bottom line is that owning a car as a poor student shouldn't cost anywhere near $12k plus plus plus. More like $2k for the car, and less than $1k per year for all registrations and charges.

[–]pleione -2 points-1 points ago

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Poster with obvious bicycle-centric agenda writes passive-aggressive post in the third person narrative, refuses to acknowledge that circumstances differ and his preferred method of transportation is not a one-size-fits-all solution.

[–]adambard 2 points3 points ago

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If you're forced to live so far away from your school that buying and driving a car is the more affordable option and public transit is an impossibility, your city's urban planning is, objectively, shit.

Nothing against people that have to buy cars in school, most people don't get the chance to specifically choose somewhere with awesome planning, but if you visit cities with excellent public transit or (at risk of invoking another knee-jerk dismissal) bicycle infrastructure, you'll realize what's missing.

Sorry, I couldn't think of a way to say that without sounding really hoity-toity. Living somewhere where you can easily bike or bus (or train) everywhere is really great, honest. I can bike to work along a separated cycle path in maybe twice the time as driving, although in many cities the margin might be smaller (there's not that much traffic here). For me it's worthwhile because I find it really enjoyable, and a lot of people bike to work in my city. Not everyone in every city can do this, but I think it's a good thing to work towards, and something that any urban governance can accomplish if they have it as a goal.

Problem is that improving transit and adding pedestrian and cycle amenities tends to take funds and space from roads, which will always incense people that drive every day. Fact is, however, that even if those people keep driving, better transit and so forth will take more cars off the roads and improve their commute anyhow.

/r/urbanplanning will go on and on about this for you if you like.

[–]pleione 0 points1 point ago

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No, don't get me wrong - I'd love the chance to ride a bike to work everyday. Unfortunately, economics dictate where I live, and I can't just get a new job closer to home, as much as I'd like to - again with the economics.

I completely agree that urban planning in the vast majority of the US is shit, there's just not a lot I can do about it. It'd be great if we could somehow wipe the slate clean and redesign our cities to better accommodate public transit and personal, non-motorized transportation, I just don't have any idea how to address that, short of bulldozing all the things.

My metro area has been bullshitting around with the idea of light rail, it's been voted on and passed several times, and each time, the politicians say "well, that's great, but we have no funding" and nothing happens. Somehow, there's always money for throwing a couple more lanes on the highway.

I was only addressing the snarkiness I perceived in nougatmachine's reply to renegadecanuck.

[–]unwarrantedadvice 2 points3 points ago

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Commuter schools?

[–]gilligan156 1 point2 points ago

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Am I the only one whose brain autocorrected car-free to carefree?

[–]KarmaKaiser 1 point2 points ago

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Ride-sharing is less fun the car owner. My brother, the car owner of the two of us, would know.

[–]my_cat_joe 0 points1 point ago

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Do you share your weed with him? That's an important benefit to being in college. College brothers need to pack the kind bud.

[–]Taniwha_NZ 1 point2 points ago

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You can't really generalise. There are tons of communities in the US that are designed for car owners, and are just a nightmare to try and live in without your own fossil-burner. If you grow up in NYC you might get right through college without knowing a single person who owns a car, but if you grow up in San Diego you probably wouldn't know anyone without one.

I would try and avoid car ownership if possible throughout your entire life. Not for environmental reasons (although those are good reasons) but just because it is mostly an expensive pain in the ass and a liability. I come from a car-owning culture and an area that was difficult to live in without one, but once I had the chance to live in an urban area where my apartment was 5 minutes walk from my school so I didn't need a car at all, my life was undeniably better - healthier, less expensive, less trouble with police, insurance, etc.

Once I got into the workforce, I reluctantly had to own a car just to get to work, get to the supermarket, and get to other places for holidays. But in my 3rd job I was given a 'company car' and my entire concept of car ownership was turned on it's head. A Company war is worth far, far more than the simple cost of owning one. They come with full insurance, free servicing, and usually smoeone else int he company will be responsible for tracking servicing and licensing and any other legal stuff you normally have to do yourself.

I vowed then to never own my own car. In the 20-odd years since then, the one time I had a job without a car, I had to buy one and it was a fucking nightmare that only ended when it was stolen (thank god).

So, to summarise: Try to get through college without a car at all. But if you live in a certain type of area, just admit you can't avoid it. Next, once you leave college, give huge priority to any job that comes with a company car... they are a fucking godsend.

[–]cwstjnobbs 0 points1 point ago

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Having a car is extremely useful.

In my first year of uni I walked 2 miles every day and ended up drinking a lot. Got a car, made life easier.

In fact if I didn't have a car I'd be about £25,000 poorer, still living with my parents and either jobless or working for minimum wage.

[–]erveek 0 points1 point ago

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Unless your college is designed by people who traverse it on golf carts.

[–]ThisIsMyCouchAccount 0 points1 point ago

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I drove the four blocks to school.

[–]maxtrix 2 points3 points ago

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Why does Gilbert Gottfried park at your universit... OOOOOHHHH

[–]robert_penis 4 points5 points ago

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http://www.dhe.mo.gov/data/compfee/compfeeschedule20124Y.php

Why aren't you going to a public school? After tuition and all fees, the most expensive 4 year public university in Missouri is less than half of what you're paying (assuming you're a resident of MO).

[–]JavaLSU 2 points3 points ago

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I'll never understand this. In the late 90's I paid a whopping $1,400 a semester for school. My degree has more than paid for itself since then.

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Why don't you try to do that all over again and see how it works out for you. I guarantee that it won't.

[–]JavaLSU 1 point2 points ago

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Which part?

[–]galith 2 points3 points ago

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I think he is trying to emphasize the point that college costs have increased exponentially where now it is common for even state schools to be 20k per year.

[–]JavaLSU 2 points3 points ago

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Ok, I wasn't sure.

That's why I specified in the 90's, I didn't want to give the impression that this is the current tuition costs.

Edit: Currently with all fees in place the tuition + fees come out to $3,180 a semester.

[–]galith -2 points-1 points ago

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This doesn't take in the issue of housing and food costs as well as gas, car insurance etc., which add up as well, that's what turns my uni from an 8k per year to 15-20k off-campus.

[–]JavaLSU 8 points9 points ago

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Of course not. But that's not the cost of school. That's the cost of living. You can't lump those together.

I lived on campus and had a meal plan, and paid it all that way, much less that the 12k hike that you're mentioning. But you choose to go the route of having a car, and living off-campus. That can't be blamed on the school, and definitely can't be lumped into the tuition costs.

[–]galith 0 points1 point ago*

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I don't understand why the two cannot be lumped together when factoring in the true cost of college, everyone needs an apartment or a dorm. Let me explain. Rent is 950 dollars per month, which would be 475 dollars per month = 2850 dollars for a year (assuming 2 semesters are roughly 3 months in length) My tuition is 8k a year, that's 11k right there.

If I were to live on campus I would have to pay $6700 for dorms and $4000 in meal plan points for the year. (That's how much food is here if you don't cook) You're trying to say that living on-campus is cheaper, that's simply not true, students commute because it's cheaper than paying for dorming. Again this is a state college in New York (not even New York City, just New York) I'm not even talking about something like New York University in the heart of Manhattan.

I'm not allowed to lump in my living costs when it's cheaper than the school's?These are my total expenses for going to school.

[–]JavaLSU 0 points1 point ago

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everyone needs an apartment or a dorm.

Not really. A lot of students live at home, also a lot of students take public transportation.

These expenses exist with or without college. They are independent of the actual costs of the university, because even if you didn't attend school, you would still have these expenses.

Also, these are non-standard expenses. While I could take the bus and live in studio, I could also drive a mustang and rent a four bedroom house. This really can't be calculated unless it regulated by the school. Such as a dorm or meal plan, however for the most part, those aren't required to attend school.

A more realistic argument would be the include the cost of books. These are required for school.

[–]robert_penis 0 points1 point ago

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Did you not look at my link? For Missouri residents (where I'm assuming the OP goes to school based off of other comments) there isn't a single public school that costs more than $10,000 a year, including fees. There are even 2 schools that are less than $6,000 a year. That's still a lot, but nowhere near $20,000.

[–]JavaLSU 1 point2 points ago

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I've notice a very disturbing trend in the media and on reddit that school is just too expensive and not worth it.

This is a complete myth. Public schools in most states are reasonably priced, and not only that, most states offer a variety of programs to help pay for the schools.

Rather than educate teenagers of their options, these people would rather scare students away from college.

I find this really irresponsible and a bit frightening.

[–]galith 0 points1 point ago*

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This is from an above reply. Let me give you an example of my school. I said State schools, I didn't specify Missouri state schools. My friend in University of Virginia pays 30,000 in associated costs for tuition.

Rent is 950 dollars per month, which would be 475 dollars per month = 2850 dollars for a year. (assuming 2 3 month semesters) My Tuition is 8k a year.
If I were to live on campus I would have to pay an additional $6700 and $4000 in meal plan points for the year. (That's how much food is here if you don't cook) You're trying to say that living on-campus is cheaper, that's simply not true, students commute because it's cheaper than paying for dorming. Again this is a state college in New York, I'm not even talking about something like New York University.

I'm not allowed to lump in my living costs when it's cheaper than the school's? These are my total expenses for going to school versus if I were to work.

I agree that a cheaper school would be a better option for him, but also Dorming/Housing costs money as well and shouldn't be ignored when taking into account the true cost of college.

[–]robert_penis 0 points1 point ago

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Your friend should have stayed in their home state, since I'm assuming they're not from Virginia. Annual tuition and fees for University of Virginia is $12,000 for Virginia residents. That is still a lot of money, but substantially less than the $30,000 dollars your friend is paying, or even the $20,000 that you have been talking about.

Rent is 950 dollars per month, which would be 475 dollars per month = 2850 dollars for a year. (assuming 2 6 month semesters)

This doesn't add up.

You're trying to say that living on-campus is cheaper,

When did I say that?

I'm not allowed to lump in my living costs when it's cheaper than the school's? These are my total expenses for going to school versus if I were to work.

Being alive costs money. You would have similar (or higher) expenses if you worked. When you have a job you don't subtract your rent or mortgage payments from your salary when you discuss how much you earn.

[–]Onsager 0 points1 point ago

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Private schools tend to give more scholarships than public ones. It can be cheaper to attend a private school if you are a good student.

[–]robert_penis 0 points1 point ago

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If the OP is getting over $10,000 in scholarships, that would defeat the point he is trying to make.

I attended a public school and got free tuition and pocketed several thousand dollars a year in additional scholarships. It really depends on the school and state more than if the school is private or not.

[–]Onsager 0 points1 point ago

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Hence why I used the word can.

Also, my post was not in response to the OP. I was simply pointing out that while public schools need to be in the conversation, they are not a panacea to tuition woes. You are correct that it isn't as simple as public or private.

[–]FunkyPete 4 points5 points ago

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How much does it cost if you park in the spot reserved for Webster?

[–]techmaster242 2 points3 points ago

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It's a very small parking spot.

[–]Werderhea 0 points1 point ago

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It's a parking spot.

[–]Dark_Shroud 0 points1 point ago

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He's probably lost the spot by now since it's temporary.

[–]GuyverII 1 point2 points ago

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One of the biggest scams on college campuses today. Not enough parking, leading to a nice revenue stream coming in through Campus Police.

[–]darkeblue 1 point2 points ago

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First World Problems...

[–]jerkus_erectus 1 point2 points ago

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[–]elzlog 7 points8 points ago

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Blocks away from campus is not the middle of St. Louis... You'd still be in Webster Groves. One of the most affluent cities in the Midwest. Assuming you were implying that it was a dangerous walk.

[–]Letsgomine 0 points1 point ago

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Anywhere that you would be within a few blocks of Webster university is NOT St. Louis city.

[–]canada432 -1 points0 points ago

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I don't think he was implying that it was dangerous, I think he was implying that its a pain in the ass to have to park downtown and then walk several city blocks.

[–]ericfromtx 1 point2 points ago

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No offense but you do realize Webster U is a scam right?

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[–]ericfromtx 1 point2 points ago

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Well that works out quite well then. It's only a rip off if they take something from you.

[–]meranaamchutia 4 points5 points ago

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LIFE WITHOUT FREE PARKING IS NOT WORTH LIVING.

[–]Edge578 3 points4 points ago

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I live right by Webster University. This f***ing made my day.

[–]Vitalstatistix 13 points14 points ago

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You're allowed to swear on the fucking internet!

[–]vegasdoesvegas 0 points1 point ago

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I see this post or a variation of it every week or so. Some people just don't like to curse. Big fucking deal.

[–]dontnation 3 points4 points ago

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If the point of communication is to express ideas, how is f***ing not the same as fucking? Does anyone not read f***ing as fucking?

[–]Petra-Arkanian 2 points3 points ago

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I read fastarstarstaring, which makes no sense.

[–]Vitalstatistix 3 points4 points ago

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Then use a different fucking word as an adjective.

[–]vegasdoesvegas 0 points1 point ago

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Fair point. Limited vocabulary, I guess?

edit I don't mean you have a limited vocabulary, but that a limited vocabulary might sometimes go hand-in-hand with a love of censorship.

[–]Vitalstatistix 0 points1 point ago

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I concur.

Or lack of internet-balls?!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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But the environment, and such.

[–]I3ombastic 1 point2 points ago

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Hey this definitely isn't a repost

[–]OmniaII 2 points3 points ago

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Yeah, but it was submitted a year ago, and now it's on the front page again.

  

  

If a repost is on the front page, then shut up about it.

[–]syrindigo26 0 points1 point ago

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Fun tidbit about most colleges and parking : The only thing they can do to a student for an unpaid parkind ticket is not give them their grades.

for any faculity there is not a damn thing they can do. My professor has well over 40 tickets but theres nothings that they can do to em' He does not give one single fuck.

[–]tubafatness 2 points3 points ago

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That's not the case everywhere. At my undergrad, they would tow your car after 10 tickets or so, and at my current school, they do the same.

[–]vertexvortex 2 points3 points ago

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Nope, my college will institute a financial hold on registration, disabling you from registering for more classes.

[–]cert09 2 points3 points ago

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I'm guessing that's true of colleges that do not have legitimate police forces. It is, however, a different story if your police aren't glorified security guards. Not only did my college have a real police force, but they were considered state police and had jurisdiction statewide. I cannot tell you how many times I've seen my university police have someone pulled over on the outskirts of town.

[–]Dark_Shroud 0 points1 point ago

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My college had a local branch for the local police force on campus. The tickets you'd get were very real. They would tow your car and/or make you go to court.

[–]jibcage 0 points1 point ago

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From a fellow St. Louisan, you could attend Washington University and pay $1200 a year for a parking pass... or you could just not own a car, as much as it sucks to not own one here.

[–]chaconj 0 points1 point ago

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yeah, plus twice the tuition...

[–]jibcage 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, but you get more education for your money.

[–]chaconj 0 points1 point ago

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It's twice the tuition, not sure its twice the education. In the end that's up to what the student decides to study.

[–]jdemell 0 points1 point ago

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Anybody else read the name as G. Gottfried, and therefore couldn't get this voice out of your head whilst reading the rest?

[–]gentlemandinosaur 0 points1 point ago

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Man, that is one cheap school.

[–]mediumcoke 0 points1 point ago

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I read that as G. Gottfried. I'm thinking "he doesn't belong in any kind of university".

[–]AnalBurns 0 points1 point ago

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great imgur url

[–]nakedjay 0 points1 point ago

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Took a couple classes a while back at Webster and I can verify, yes the parking is horrible.

[–]JC2535 0 points1 point ago

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"Is there something I could put in this hand that would make you forget about all those pink tickets?"

[–]leroydudley 0 points1 point ago

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no

[–]asdofikjasdlfkjqwpea 0 points1 point ago

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Sounds like my old college. They had too few parking spots on campus but had trouble filling up their dorms, so logically they built a new dorm on top of one of the biggest parking lots on campus.

[–]LarrySDonald 0 points1 point ago

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(attaches sign to bottom) IS IT?!? IS IT FUCKING REALLY?!?

[–]wahh 0 points1 point ago

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I went to Fontbonne and Webster, and I now work at Wash U. If they think parking at Webster is bad (I never had much of a problem parking as an evening-time grad student) they should try parking at Fontbonne. There are like 10 spots for a school that is 98% commuter. They are also welcomed to pay $480/year+ to park at Wash U.

Yeah...I've kinda taken a whole university tour of this city. Next stop...SLU?

[–]MissCellania 0 points1 point ago

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If that includes room and board, yeah, it's worth it. You'd spend that much a year anyway if you were working instead.

[–]Crby77 0 points1 point ago

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Pretty sure every college has parking issues. Don't see this fixing anything. All students are paying that much and have the same parking lack of spots.
Why can't faculty park where they work?

[–]Edge578 0 points1 point ago

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I go to SLU, so If anyone has a right to complain about tuition, it's me. But we do have parking though.

[–]wootenelli 0 points1 point ago

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Let's see what they say about their reddit fame...

http://imgur.com/o3CwH

[–]slut_patrol 0 points1 point ago

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[–]cwstjnobbs 0 points1 point ago

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I went to a university with 20,000 full-time students and ~2,000 parking spaces.

The price of parking was £0.60/day when I started and £1.20 when I finished, they still haven't built more parking and they probably have around 25,000 full-time students by now.

Mind you I only paid ~£1,225/year, thanks Welsh Assembly.

[–]gorlok11 0 points1 point ago

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Scumbag Webster University makes you pay $120 for parking. Never has open parking spots before classes start.

I always parked in the church parking lot and hoped my car didn't get towed

[–]hudm0 0 points1 point ago

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Let me work it.

[–]whut 1 point2 points ago

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GUY WITH CUTE COMEBACK STILL GETTING ANALLY FUCKED

[–]tubafatness 0 points1 point ago

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If he has to pay the full price of tuition, maybe he shouldn't have gone to an expensive private college. There are plenty of public universities in Missouri, or wherever the sign-maker is from. Downvote at will, but that's just my opinion.

[–]haavarl -2 points-1 points ago

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No soup for you.