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[–]Howie_85Sabre 60 points61 points ago

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We're traveling very very very quickly too.

[–][deleted] 51 points52 points ago

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Yeah, Hurtling makes more sense than floating.
Also, the point we're hurtling around is moving; we're moving around where the point was 8 minutes ago, the point is the centre of mass of us and the Sun, not the Sun itself, the Sun is hurtling through a galaxy, in turn hurtling through the void, which is itself expanding in every direction, at the same time. And also accelerating.

[–]Vibster 52 points53 points ago

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We're falling towards a fucking star!!!! We're just moving quickly enough that we keep missing it.

[–]Humdrum_Throne 17 points18 points ago

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This is how my physics teacher explained orbit. He worded it well enough that everyone was at least chuckling. Goddamn I love physics.

[–]gamerholic 1 point2 points ago

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And by star, you mean a huge ball of fire... Fire?.. OMG THE CHRISTIANS WERE RIGHT!!!

[–]Vibster 1 point2 points ago

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The sun isn't on fire.

[–]gamerholic 0 points1 point ago

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You obviously don't live in Florida.

[–]coonstev 0 points1 point ago

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Sun god.

[–]trust_the_corps 13 points14 points ago

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Relative to our terms, hurtling. Relative to universal terms, watching grass grow. Both equally as painful.

[–]Howie_85Sabre 2 points3 points ago

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Mind boggling speeds tracing paths that are unimaginably complex. I LOVE OUR UNIVERSE!

[–]knerp 0 points1 point ago

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..I recently heard one theory that the precession of the equinoxes is due to the fact that our sun is actually a binary star with Sirius which is 8.8 light years away. Seems like a nutty theory to me but some say it's possible and if not with Sirius then something else we haven't seen yet.

[–]Vigil 1 point2 points ago

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It is nutty, completely. While the sun and sirius do interact through gravity, it is over an extremely long distance. The gravity of the building you are in has more effect on the sun than sirius.

The equinoxes are caused by the tilt of the earth's axis. They aren't exactly precise, either, as the axial tilt precesses over thousands of years, changing the day the equinox lands on.

[–]knerp 0 points1 point ago

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Ok, sure he's no Carl Segan but James Earl Jones narrated this. The Great Year

[–]Ocrasorm 2 points3 points ago

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"Look at how that Formula 1 car floats through the air backwards into the fence." You are right. It doesn't have the same feel.

[–]sixpersimmon 2 points3 points ago

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Say "hurtling" ten times fast. It's fun :D

[–]philosoraptocopter 1 point2 points ago

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Thanks for the warning, you can pay my hospital bills.

[–]mobyhead1 0 points1 point ago

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That's a lot of vectors to add up.

[–]yesyesyesalright 0 points1 point ago

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Nah, just use Lagrangian or Euler angles

[–]Bodhidummy 0 points1 point ago

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In other words, nothing is in the place that it was before and will never be in that place again.

"You can't step into the same river twice" - Heraclitus

Truth be told, you can't step into the same river once.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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we're moving around where the point was 8 minutes ago

I heard somewhere that this isn't true, because gravity isn't like light: it doesn't travel, it just is. If I'm wrong on that, feel free to slap my stupid-ass face with the truth.

[–]shuckster 2 points3 points ago

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While we have yet to detect gravity-waves, General Relativity says they might exist, and that they would travel at light-speed.

So if Einstein is right and the Sun were to instantly vanish (somehow) we wouldn't stop orbiting around where it was for another 8 minutes.

[–]oldstumpy 0 points1 point ago

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zedicus is probably thinking of the Newtonian model of gravity

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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But if they don't exist, then it's possible that we orbit around where the sun actually is, not where it was 8 minutes ago?

[–]shuckster 0 points1 point ago

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Gravity Probe B has already proved the Geodetic effect and has tentative data for the possibility of Frame-dragging; two effects predicted by Einstein's equations.

Whether these effects propagate instantaneously or not is yet to be determined, but the above evidence does at least take steps towards proving that space-time does indeed curve.

[–]Dogleg64 0 points1 point ago

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Slap, just having a bad day

[–]Silcantar 0 points1 point ago

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I'm fairly certain that it's been observed that gravity fields "update" at the speed of light. If the sun were to disappear, the change in its gravity field wouldn't reach us for 8 minutes.

[–]LaughingMan42 0 points1 point ago

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If it were any other way, there would be some serious cuasality issues with simultansity traveling at light speed, while we use gravity fields to communicate instantly.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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It's only Wikipedia, but here's current thought on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_gravity

[–]zudthespud 1 point2 points ago

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It's all relative. We spin round the sun at 30km/s, which means that one side of the world is where the opposite side was in 7 minutes. But if you made this model out of say pool balls it would be moving so slow you probably wouldn't notice it was moving at all. If we take things that are millions of times larger than us as humans and look at the numbers on a human scale then it is a mindfuck, but if you look at it relative to things of it's own size then it's not that crazy.

[–]gamerholic 1 point2 points ago

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Are we there yet?! Are we there yet?! Are we there yet?! I need to pee!! Are wet there yet?! I'm hungry! Are we there yet?!

[–]dirtydave71 0 points1 point ago

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Shush! You're going to piss off the Turtle!

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[–]Howie_85Sabre 1 point2 points ago

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lol semantics

[–]Retsoka 0 points1 point ago

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quickly compared to which reference point?

[–]InsaneDrunkenAngel 0 points1 point ago

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Around a giant fusion reactor, to boot.

[–]A-BIack_Man 17 points18 points ago

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This rock is also made of mostly empty space.

[–]Aryq 16 points17 points ago

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This is definitely something that most people don't know. There is a (relatively) huge distance between an atomic nucleus and its electrons, which means that atoms are mostly empty space... which means that everything is mostly empty space.

[–]Volsunga 11 points12 points ago

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I personally don't like this factoid. Once you get to this scale, "volume" doesn't have any real meaning. Electrons are waves, protons and neutrons are made of quarks, which are also waves. It's all energy anyways (e=mc2 ).

[–]Bodhidummy 2 points3 points ago

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That just points to the fact that volume is an illusion. Sure it's a useful illusion, but illusion none-the-less.

[–]Tattycakes 0 points1 point ago

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Wasn't there a scientist who used this theory to try and run through walls?

[–]JeremyKean 0 points1 point ago

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How is the rock part itself comprised of empty space?

[–]roguewave 2 points3 points ago

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The gaps between the components of the rock.

[–]SarahC 0 points1 point ago

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Like a sponge, but smaller.

[–]darkbeanie 35 points36 points ago

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If you lie on your back outside at night (preferably in a really dark place so you can see the Milky Way) and gaze at the stars for a while, at some point you'll realize you aren't "on" the rock anymore -- the planet is attached to your back. The atmosphere will be the glass on your space helmet, and you'll be the one floating through space.

[–]Shadycat 22 points23 points ago

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I did this on Desolation Peak in the Cascades in Washington state. Adding fungus containing certain substances makes the truth of this very, very clear.

[–]darkbeanie 11 points12 points ago

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In no way arguing against your suggestion, I'd like to point out for the benefit of squares like myself that this experience is fully compatible with nervous systems not augmented with recreational additives.

I find that the white noise from a beach helps a lot though :-)

[–]Shadycat 16 points17 points ago

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Indeed. "Recreational" is not the word I would use though. Such things should not be undertaken too lightly.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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I've seen more Milky Way chocolate bar wrappers than I have seen the Milky Way itself.

[–]undergarden 3 points4 points ago

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And encounter more tweets from Twitter than from birds...

[–]blueeski 0 points1 point ago

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Id like to see this animated in a cartoon. Interesting concept.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points ago

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[–]I_MOLEST_CHILDREN 12 points13 points ago

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We're apes, not monkeys.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago

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And the rock isn't floating through space; there is no fluid in which to float.

What's your point?

[–]I_MOLEST_CHILDREN 7 points8 points ago

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Aliens.

[–]LaughingMan42 0 points1 point ago

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We're apes, which are a kind of monkey. Monkeys proper are a different kind of monkey.

[–]darkbeanie 0 points1 point ago

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This is quite true. We are apes, and therefore we are (old-world) monkeys, just as we are simians, mammals, vertebrates, animals and eukaryotes.

[–]I_MOLEST_CHILDREN 0 points1 point ago

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Did apes and monkeys not branch off it separate evolutionary paths?

[–]LaughingMan42 0 points1 point ago

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[–]I_MOLEST_CHILDREN 1 point2 points ago

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TIL, I love AaronRa,

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough - Albert Einstein

Ten minutes of scattergun points, wasting time with pop culture videos when he could have used that time to talk slower, actually highlight what he was talking about on the trees he keeps flashing to to viewer or just make the video shorter. "There is no trait held by all monkeys but not by any ape". He spends ten minutes trying to correctly convince us that naming conventions are largely arbitrary, and that evolution and species is a much more fluid process without clear distinctions, but then ends with an argument based on clear distinctions of what makes a monkey being found in some apes? Should that not come as a surprise to anyone who listened to what he has said, or anyone currently studying biology?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Also: We're not floating through space on a rock. A planet is not just a big rock. At least not earth. The earth has a hot core of molten stone which by its gyration produces a magnetic field which in turn shields us from sub flares and radiation. If the earth were a rock, no life would be possible. And by no means are we floating. Because floating implies a medium and buoyancy. In short, I like your version better and I'm ashamed of these morons.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Indeed, the Earth isn't a rock, it's just rocky.

[–]segasean 3 points4 points ago

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[–]YoSanford 9 points10 points ago

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Do you Realize!? - The Flaming Lips

[–]abumpdabump 2 points3 points ago

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False. If we were floating, we would be on the top of space. I believe we are "Flinking" through space

[–]SpiroAgnew 3 points4 points ago

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I prefer "You will die and be forgotten". It's easier to relate to.

[–]Knight of /newHypersapien 3 points4 points ago

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Not so much a rock as a ball of molten iron covered by a thin crust.

[–]Humdrum_Throne 2 points3 points ago

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Most people don't actually realize that everyone you know, someday, will die.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Most people don't live as if they, themselves, will someday die.

[–]Bodhidummy 0 points1 point ago

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That's because they never see themselves dying. They only see others around them dying. Dying does not happen to me, they think, it's always others who die.

[–]matty0289 2 points3 points ago

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The Flaming Lips relevant song. A very good song, I might add.

[–]aiiieeeee 5 points6 points ago

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therefore... atheism?

[–]ImAWhaleBiologist 0 points1 point ago

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That, or turtles all the way down.

[–]aiiieeeee 1 point2 points ago

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All i know is that i will not be fucking with you; you're a whale biologist.

[–]string97bean 4 points5 points ago

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I think most people realize this...it is just not always apparent in day to day life.

[–]UbiDubiumIbiLibertas 5 points6 points ago

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I completely dissagree.

There is a very, very big difference between understanding something, and knowing it in a deep way. We all understand (except for the very dumb amoung us) that we all live on a rock flying through space - however, not many of us are actually able to form a lasting mental schema of such a thing. You think about it for awhile, and then your childhood based model of "ground down sky up" takes over and you go about your way.

Making the knowledge of what we are and where we are really stick is actually quite difficult. The universe is highly counter-intuitive.

[–]ClusterMakeLove 0 points1 point ago

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Sure, and we build buildings and drive cars based on Newtonian physics which we know to be false (or not QUITE right). When we're going about simple tasks, sometimes a simple model gets the job done.

[–]lightscribe 1 point2 points ago

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[–]picado 1 point2 points ago

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Most people can't articulate why the light comes on when they flick the switch. What else is new?

[–]bigjmachine 1 point2 points ago

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Reminds me of this

[–]Gibodean 1 point2 points ago

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Me too, so I scanned to find if anyone else had posted it. It's the Monty Python Galaxy Song.

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour, That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned, A sun that is the source of all our power................

[–]im_not_a_troll 1 point2 points ago

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Flaming Lips FTW

[–]shadowq8 1 point2 points ago

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And of the millions of galaxies and countless systems, this is the only rock that we know has diverse life forms.

[–]Farabee 1 point2 points ago

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But tonight...on this small planet...on earth...

We're going to rock civilization.

[–]milescowperthwaite 1 point2 points ago

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From ABC's version of "Life On Mars": "We live on a rock. There ain't no rhyme. There ain't no reason. We live on a rock, just one of many, hurtling around in some big cosmic jambalaya. Now you wanna get questiony, that's your prerogative. My ma took me to a big loud church every Sunday. She squeezed her eyes shut, she pressed her rosary beads to her lips, and she prayed for good things for those she loved. But cancer took two of her sisters. Her husband couldn't make a move without a belly full of gin. Her youngest son turned to a life of crime. And her oldest--me--is a nasty sonofabitch who can’t get out of third gear without a snarl. So who was she talking to every Sunday? And why wasn’t he answering? I will tell you why. Because we live on a rock, just one of many. There ain't no answers. There's just this. And all you can really hope to do is find a couple of people who will make the seventy or eighty odd years we get to live on this sweet swinging sphere remotely tolerable."

[–]Tom_Anks 1 point2 points ago

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[–]A-SES 2 points3 points ago

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The Earth does not float. It falls.

[–]JeremyKean 1 point2 points ago

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Which way would down be?

[–]rocker5743 1 point2 points ago

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The enemy's gate is down.

[–]A-SES 0 points1 point ago

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I don't know, but this guy seems to know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaG-277use4

[–]Darktidemage 0 points1 point ago

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There is actually no way to tell which direction we are moving in since we can't see the entire universe.

[–]MeshesAreConfusing 2 points3 points ago

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This has nothing to do with atheism

[–]Accipiter1138 1 point2 points ago

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This is some badass graffiti. Imagine, rather than spray-painting illegible names over railcars, people went out with their stencils and thought-provoking statements like this.

[–]JeremyKean 3 points4 points ago

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The illegible names you're talking about are considered an art form in the community of graffiti artists. It helps to think of it as urban calligraphy, rather than random ugly scribbles.

[–]trust_the_corps 1 point2 points ago

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The Hubble deep field images gives a much more profound impression of our position in the universe. Those galactic discs hanging there as if suspended by magic.

[–]juke_the_stats 2 points3 points ago

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I think it's more impressive that they're in almost total blackness. But if you point a camera at them long enough they'll come into view. That boggles my mind. How big this fuckin' place is.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Those silly Christians have no idea they're on a planet. So silly.

[–]suckthisdeth 1 point2 points ago

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You must associate with morons if you think people dont know this.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Perhaps because it's not worth realizing. Or posting about.

[–]manymoose 0 points1 point ago

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[–]chad77 0 points1 point ago

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[–]oreocreamslurp 0 points1 point ago

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And so what...?

[–]MoarVespenegas 0 points1 point ago

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Can't float in a vacuum.

[–]xrami 0 points1 point ago

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Due to scatter of light in the upper atmosphere, it is easy to believe that you are living under heaven on Earth. Gods were above the blue sky in almost all religions. They were like satellites watching over us. They simply didn't know.

[–]FrankenFaust 0 points1 point ago

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You are also a mass of neurons controlling a larger mass of cells serving various functions that are all created of a variety of different atoms that make up many different things around you.

[–]SpookyAmes 0 points1 point ago

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I will admit that I have been guilty of forgetting sometimes that we rotate around the Sun, with all the other planets in the solar system.

[–]Phoequinox 0 points1 point ago

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Wayne Coyne did. And he wants you to realize it, too.

[–]punkdigerati 0 points1 point ago

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Came here looking for this. Here's it on youtube

[–]tineyeit 0 points1 point ago

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Great Album.

[–]sandaboy 0 points1 point ago

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Not so much 'realize' as it is 'take for granted.' Reminds me of this

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Last time this came up I saves it and have been using it as my tf2 spray since. I also tried to make a shirt out of it, but that didn't work out too well. The world must know.

[–]hershicon 0 points1 point ago

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YOU ARE IN SPACE EXPANDING INTO...WAIT....

[–]throwaway3699 0 points1 point ago

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most people don't realize that we're not floating, but actually falling around the sun.

[–]tokeable 0 points1 point ago

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we're on a rock floating through space around a flaming ball of gas which is in turn floating around with billions of its friends around a massive black hole.

[–]Die-Bold 0 points1 point ago

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FLYING SPACE MONKEYS BABY.

[–]PeestAwf 0 points1 point ago

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The Flaming Lips reminds me that almost everyday.

[–]Nithix 0 points1 point ago

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Some times I day dream and imagine that if I walk backwards, I'm actually so awesome that I'm rolling the Earth beneath my feet. Sup son.

[–]Jc40k 0 points1 point ago

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No u!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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We aren't really floating

[–]CumulativeDrek 0 points1 point ago

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yeah, but its still no excuse!

[–]SexualZergling 0 points1 point ago

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A really pretty Rock thank you very much.

[–]quality_control_test 0 points1 point ago

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Killer quote. How about we print up t-shirts?

[–]8002reverse 0 points1 point ago

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Floating at a lazy 29.79 kilometers per second.

[–]tinynf89 0 points1 point ago

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Technically we're not floating. We're in orbit around a much larger object in a vacuum with no up down left right or sideways. If anything we're doing this while being pulled outwards from our originating position.

[–]squidot 0 points1 point ago

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[–]HolidayHowlett 0 points1 point ago

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Why do I feel like you're yelling at me. It's really harshly my mellow. :(

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Weeeeeeeeee!

[–]SpencerJamesK 0 points1 point ago

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This seems to be what most people think, but I'm pretty sure we're the size of one of our grains of sand, floating in a cave in a larger planet which in itself is another grain of sand in another cave in an even larger planet.

[–]undergarden 0 points1 point ago

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Alas, yes. Except that it isn't really a rock--the Earth is mostly molten and quite lively and in internal motion.

But I do love how Monty Python provides much-needed perspective of the kind you offer here :).

[–]Bodhidummy 0 points1 point ago

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I love the comments in this thread. Love them all.

I was asked yesterday, rhetorically I assume, after the clouds had rolled in and covered the sky, "Where did the Sun go?"

Such an innocent question.

"It's still there shining as brightly as ever. Don't you see it?"

[–]jim-_- 0 points1 point ago

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"We are all on a massive rock flying through space and the rock itself is dying" - Frankie Boyle

[–]PlatonicTroglodyte 0 points1 point ago

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I love that line from Train's If It's Love:

Hold our cell phones up in the air, and just be glad that we made it here alive, on a spinning ball in the middle of space, I'll love you from your toes to your face

It just slams macro and micro perspectives on you in a matter of like 10 seconds.

[–]dirtydave71 0 points1 point ago

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A rock with a molten gooey center of (primarily) nickel and iron.

[–]Misharum_Kittum 0 points1 point ago

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If you ever start to take things too seriously just remember that you are a talking ape flying through the universe on an organic spaceship.

[–]WholeWideWorld 0 points1 point ago

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you are on a giant rock hurtling through space. By the time you get to the end of this sentence, we would have moved 2397 miles relative to the universe.

Average person reads 280wpm

That’s 4.67 Words per second

The above has 30 ‘words’

6.428571428571428 seconds

2397 miles

[–]idwolf 0 points1 point ago

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How can you not realize this? What else is there to realize?

[–]ilovemagicmush 0 points1 point ago

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I used to think this when I was an atheist. Then I realized I am the rock and the space.

[–]Veeveev 0 points1 point ago

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I prefer plummeting. It's more exciting than floating. Ducks float. Planets plummet through a vast expanse at rates we can only comprehend as large numbers.

[–]lowrads 0 points1 point ago

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As far as I am concerned, the universe is moving in very complex (and occasionally retrograde) orbits around me.

The proof of this is how much effort it takes to get out of bed in the morning, and then walk all the way to the coffee pot.

[–]ravenouscraving 0 points1 point ago

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[–]eggshan -2 points-1 points ago

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Uhhh... Pretty sure most people know this. Horrible post.

[–]Scapegrace_ -1 points0 points ago

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You don't get it.

[–]sixpersimmon 0 points1 point ago

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HOLY SHIT! Thanks for the reminder D:

[–]rltw25 0 points1 point ago

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Wait... We are? HOLY SHIT

[–]zapakh 0 points1 point ago

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My rock is spinning!

[–]Barneyk 0 points1 point ago

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Alex, what is the best answer to HOMOSEXUALITY IS UNNATURAL!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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So are skyscrapers, forks, computers, shoes and pretty much everything

[–]infinite8 0 points1 point ago

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We're not really just floating in space. We're locked in an orbit by gravity

[–]AcidBurns95 0 points1 point ago

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

-Douglas Adams

[–]JeremyKean 0 points1 point ago

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What is abnormal about earth in comparison to pretty much every other planet in our universe? (aside from the water and lifeforms)

[–]manofsea 0 points1 point ago

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I like to think of it as the most advanced spaceship in the known space.

[–]J_dubs 0 points1 point ago

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my thought process about this: holy shit.. he's right... we are insignificant beings who think our existence matters. but it doesn't. alright back to halloweekend

[–]JeremyKean 0 points1 point ago

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I've always known this. Which is why I get a little confused when I hear people lamenting about how insignificant we are. I've luckily never had some delusion that I was at all important beyond my personal life. Seems quite egotistic to me to believe that I'm special. The sooner we realize we're just dumb parasites on the outer layer of an infinitesimally tiny little mode of dust, the better.

Though I do take quite a bit of issue with people claiming our lives are meaningless simply because we are tiny.

Take the Pillars of Creation of example: one of those pillars is 4 light years in length; that's nearly 40 trillion kilometers long. Entire stars have apparently been incubating inside these things. But do these things have meaning? They're just doing what they naturally do. Sheer happenstance has seemed to bring this immense amount of gas together and they are simply acting accordingly.

Life, to me, is a fuck of a lot more impressive than a whole lot of matter zoomin' around in a vacuum. Not only life, but conscience, sentience, love, emotions, and innovation. We are an anomaly, a beautiful fluke. If you don't think humanity, or even life itself is meaningful, then what is? If you can't come up with an answer then why the hell do you put so much weight behind how meaningful something is?

I personally see meaning as meaningless within itself. Worrying about it makes being a useless, helpless accident all way more depressing than it actually needs to be.

Wow. Reading over what I've just written makes me wonder how I've made it this far in my adolescence without going through some crushing existential funk.

[–]sdiddy55 0 points1 point ago

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I would like to have that on a bumper sticker. Drink by mind fuck....

[–]juan_dale 0 points1 point ago

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This is the background on my phone.

[–]newbizguy -2 points-1 points ago

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Everyone everywhere knows this, seriously. I know its supposed to make me feel all tingly and shit but wow dude just move on

[–]saliyuda -1 points0 points ago

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AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

[–]Sumthingwitty -2 points-1 points ago

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Were not floating were falling.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points ago

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MIND BLOWN

[–]Dynamesmouse -1 points0 points ago

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The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be. ~Douglas Adams

[–]fuck_pants -1 points0 points ago

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True, but it's our rock. Our nice little chunk of rock that we live on and most of us will live our entire lives on. We are born, live, and die on this rock.

I like this rock.

[–]MollyRingworm -1 points0 points ago

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I realize it. I just don't like thinking about it. Makes me a little panicky..

[–]rahtin -1 points0 points ago

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I acted this out for my wife, started spinning my multi-vitamin bottle around in a circle making rocket noises, yelling about how we're barrelling through space, shit burning up in our atmosphere, describing the sun... she was not pleased or impressed with my pantomime.

[–]PhantomCaesar -1 points0 points ago

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A molten ball of rock.

[–]Fleshflayer -1 points0 points ago

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Most people do realise this, if they have been on the internet for more than 2 months.

[–]a_tension_center -2 points-1 points ago

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However, I think almost all atheists realize this.

[–]AureusStone -2 points-1 points ago

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Most people are dumb if they don't realize this.

[–]Dogleg64 -2 points-1 points ago

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I knew that, I did, I saw it on tv