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submitted 9 months ago by SmallvilleCK
[–]Braskebom 11 points12 points13 points 9 months ago
I think most scholars actually reject the term "dark ages" and don't think it has had much effect on advancement at all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)
[–]karstark 9 points10 points11 points 9 months ago
I also thought that the church was credited with being one of the only institutions during that time that was a stable influence that ended up helping people, and most of the only literate people left at the time where monks etc.
[–]ChimpsRFullOfScience 4 points5 points6 points 9 months ago
Yeah... perhaps most galling, though, is the implied measurement of 'scientific progress' with a single number of the Y-axis of that graph.
[–]whiteknight521 5 points6 points7 points 9 months ago
Without religion our knowledge could likely be half of what it is now, and most renaissance art would not exist. Sometimes the human mind can make beautiful things when it believes in fairy tales. If we can be inspired by the stories of our ancestors, and this inspiration leads us to do great things, then it does not harm us. When we let these stories dictate policy, take them as fact, and use them to justify mistreatment of others, we have a problem.
[–]miksedene 7 points8 points9 points 9 months ago
Please explain exactly how you quantify scientific advancement?
I'm seriously unconvinced that you could do it in such a way to present a graph like that.
[–]chuckquizmo 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
Yeah, I was just trying to search for a better graph, that's the only one I can find though. That graph is about as factual as someone's opinion without any reference.
[–]Vitalstatistix 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago
This one is just stupidly ignorant.
[–]absentmindedjwc 4 points5 points6 points 9 months ago
Thanks a lot, asshole. Now I am hungry. :(
[–]Hrob270 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
The 9/11 pic really hit home, I love it.
[–]wasniahC 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
The 9/11 picture shouldn't. The attack was mostly done for political motivations, not religious. :\
[–]hamjim 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago
I call BS. It was political only in that their politics is controlled by their religion.
And while I'm here, the other side looks at the same photo, notes an effect of lens flare, and goes gaga over the "cross" "proving" which religion is "true." Even more BS ensues.
I'm not sure what you're on about at all with that 2nd part, but ok.
More importantly I guess, Osama's letter to America stated this happened "because you attacked us and continue to attack us". Whether their politics are controlled by their religion, whether or not they are religious, this was not simply done because of a difference in religion. Calling BS doesn't make it BS.
[–]philter451 -1 points0 points1 point 9 months ago
If you think that Osama helped orchestrate an attack on us because of purely religious motivations you really need to look at the history between him and the US especially during the attempted Russian occupation of Afghanistan.
Afghanistan got dicked over by the US real hard and thus an anti-western terrorist is born. I would say he was a terrorist who happened to be Islamic.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
That last one made me laugh. My Roman catholic mam has called me a sheep for being an atheist before. This would be in a country where 87% of the population are Roman Catholic, and 4% have no religion.
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[–]akaZilong 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
Hmmm. Chinese food
[–]Spudface 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
I love the scientific advancement one, damn you religion! I always wanted to explore the galaxy :(
[–]Tattycakes 5 points6 points7 points 9 months ago
But how accurate is it? What kind of criteria is the scientific advancement measured on?
[–]digitaljeff51 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
ive seen the mcdonalds one for years and i just now noticed the fries in their hands
[–]360walkaway 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
I don't get the baby burger one.
[–]ketamin 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
Religion: They're basically like this
And like this
[–]pang0lin 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
I like the cleaner version of the first one: Here
[–]ididntwantausername 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
My favourite: "On the first day, man created God."
[–]Stephiek 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
Thanks for this :)
[–][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 9 months ago*
All this religion bashing is getting ridiculous.
Atheists here are becoming as bad as the religious people. Before anyone says "GTFO RELIGIOUS MAN", atheist here.
Edit: And the fact that I get so many down votes just goes to show you're being a bunch of hypocrites.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago
"I'm an atheist but..."
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 9 months ago
... but I don't see how you can have a go at people for forcing their beliefs on you, then do exactly the same to them?
There is a difference in forcing beliefs and presenting facts.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 months ago
No body is presenting facts. They're presenting opinions. I haven't seen any science. Just people slating the religious.
If someone wants to be religious and use that as either a way to live a better life or to have something to comfort them with the idea that this life isn't all there is to the universe, not only do I accept that, I respect it. What I'm not going to do is sit here and tell them to stop being stupid, to look at science and give up all hope and faith. Nothing gives me that right, nothing gives you that right, nothing gives anybody that right.
I'm not saying that I condone having religion forced down peoples throats as I think people should be left to make up their own minds. I don't like seeing the atheism being presented in the same way though.
I'm not looking to start any sort of arguments, I just don't understand the hypocrisy of some.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago*
Let me ask you this:
Do you see atheists going door to door?
Do you see atheists building megachurches?
Do you see atheists forcing children into 'pray the gay away' type institutions?
Do you see atheists strapping bombs to their chests in the name of their beliefs?
Did atheists start the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Holocaust?
Do atheists have a book that tells you how you should live your life and if someone deviates from that they're going to burn forever in eternity?
Do atheists try to get elected into office to force their non-beliefs on the general public?
No. They don't.
edit* Even better: Do you see large groups of theists denouncing these practices? Nope.
Also... you may have the 'right' to believe whatever the hell you want, but I have every 'right' to tell you that you're wrong and that what you're doing is not advancing humanity in any way shape or form.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago
You seem to view religion as some evil corporation. You only look at one side of the argument.
Thanks for proving my point. Now move along pencil pusher.
Seems like a lot of people on here have developed the age old attitude of "YOU HAVE TO LIKE ALL THE THINGS I LIKE!".
What you've failed to address is how religion can be beneficial to people. If they decide religion is going to make them happier after the death of a loved one or after they have been diagnosed with a terminal illness, why would you even WANT to stop that? Like I said, you're looking at one side of a story.
"My religion allows me to be a hypocritical bigot and that makes me happy!"
Their sick and delusional happiness ends where another person begins.
[–]designerutah 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
I disagree. I think religious bashing is not only just getting started, but its been necessary for centuries. Until religion holds no special place, it deserves to get bashed. Let it's ideas and claims stand up to criticism, scrutiny and skepticism. Let it have to exist in a place where not believing is just as socially acceptable as believing. Until then, bashing is a great way to bring the issue to light
Let it have to exist in a place where not believing is just as socially acceptable as believing.
Where the hell do you live? I live in England and no one here finds it socially unacceptable at all. They wanna believe in god, let 'em.
I live in the U.S., Utah to be exact, and it can be a very real problem not to be a believer. Come out to parents; possibility of being disowned. Come out to boss; possibility of being fired. Come out to friends; no longer friends. The U.S. has swung to be very fanatical recently. I used to live in England, religion is far less of an issue than here, and yes, that's sad.
[–]MIUfish 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago
Oh noes, people saying mean things on the interwebs. That's just as bad as all the shit religion does!!
[–]wasniahC -1 points0 points1 point 9 months ago
Because unless it's just as bad as that, there's no reason it should stop?
[–]MIUfish 2 points3 points4 points 9 months ago
1) Your comparison is ridiculous and offensive.
2) We've no desire to stop. This is a forum. Some people say things you don't like. If you don't like it, spend your time elsewhere.
Your first point makes no sense. He made the comparison, sarcastically. I pointed out that even if it's comparitively good, it doesn't mean it should be done. What part of that is ridiculous, or offensive?
"Hey, this isn't as bad as that, but its still not good". Ridiculous. And offensive.
You've no desire to stop? Thats why there's drama all over the subreddit the last few days telling people to stop making an ass of themselves.
It is offensive and ridiculous to compare saying mean things on the internet to what the problematic theists do, which is far, far worse.
We're ok with drama. It's not our responsibility nor desire to make sure that people aren't offended by our ideas.
It looks like you restated point 1, and completely ignored what I said. Nice.
I'll try that again.
Somebody else compared them. I said it still isn't good. Two wrongs don't make a right. Is claiming that two wrongs don't make a right offensive and ridiculous to you?
We're ok with drama
This is the problem. That picture is exaggerated bullshit. You could reverse it to say "Hey, can you guys be a bit quieter?" And have the crowd go insane with "can't I say what I want?" "This is the internet" "well christians aren't quiet" "its not our responsibility"...
Durr, looks like much of that should have been directed at Frewty. My mistake, I lost track of the thread.
This is the problem. That picture is exaggerated bullshit.
Not really. We get tons of that.
You could reverse it to say "Hey, can you guys be a bit quieter?" And have the crowd go insane with "can't I say what I want?" "This is the internet" "well christians aren't quiet" "its not our responsibility"..
This is a forum, not a streetcorner. You can wander in and read or not read whatever you like. It is (effectively) unmoderated, so there's a wide range of stuff. There's plenty I dislike about it, but I downvote or ignore and move on.
The bottom line is that many of us want to mock religion, many of us see nothing wrong in that (again, given that this is a forum on the internet and not a public streetcorner), and we really don't care if people find it offensive.
True enough, but its turning up on my frontpage nonetheless, and any person who gets on reddit and checks out the atheism subreddit would have a pretty bad impression from there. It's less about atheism, and more just about bashing christianity, lately. There should be more to it than that :\
And no problem on the mistake, shit happens :P
Personally, I think frontpaging it by default is a mistake, we have enough trouble sifting through the crap as it is. It's not in my hands, alas.
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[–]ChimpsRFullOfScience 4 points5 points6 points ago
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