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[–]Gadgetlam 137 points138 points ago

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actually when people communicate, the speaker is usually the one who is supposed to break eye contact and occasionally look around, and the listener is normally expected to maintain more eye contact. This is because the listener has to comprehend what the speaker is talking about and hence more attention is paid.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/kline-listen/b10ch5.htm

so it is a pretty normal reaction...

[–]Smofo 25 points26 points ago

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Came here to say this with way less information, good job Gadgetlam.

[–]NotMarkus 21 points22 points ago*

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Came here to say what Gadgetlam said. Then I came to say what you said, but I wouldn't have phrased it as well and I probably would have just rambled.

Now I'm just here for the downvotes.

okay.

edit: Was hoping for downvotes on this worthless comment. Got upvotes instead.

okay.

[–]polyshore 0 points1 point ago

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doesn't that make the upvotes on a downvote request downvotes?

[–]afishinthewell 1 point2 points ago

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I like that this comment, a minute after the other, has more information instead. It's like one of the good episodes of LOST.

[–]ecmmyers 0 points1 point ago

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I don't know what you're talking about all the other episodes were -more information can be found in previous comments.

[–]luke314pi 1 point2 points ago

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Go Go Gadgetlam!

[–]Geiz 3 points4 points ago

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alright the top two comments are saying opposite things... im rooting for this one though. because i do this as well, plus a link with info has been provided. my science brain likes references to sources

[–]paa79594 2 points3 points ago

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Female coworker was just talking to me, about herself, and I was listening, with full eye contact. She would not look me in the eye, just staring out the window but continuing to converse. WTF?

[–]expirator 1 point2 points ago

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I read in a book about body language that the speaker prefers about 90% eye contact and the listener usually gets about 50-60%.

[–]lollerkeet 1 point2 points ago

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http://www.fantasymaps.com/stuff/fanspeak.html

"We tend to not use eye contact nearly as often; when we do, it often signifies that it's the other person's turn to speak now. This is opposite of everyone else. In mundania, it's breaking eye contact that signals turn-taking, not making eye contact. She demonstrated this on DDB; breaking eye contact and turning slightly away, and he felt insulted. On the other hand, his sudden staring at her eyes made her feel like a professor had just said "justify yourself NOW". Mutual "rudeness"; mixed signals."

[–]Knucklessg1 1 point2 points ago

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I do this, but i thought it was awkward. So by being awkward, i'm not being awkward?

[–]happyCuddleTime 0 points1 point ago

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How are listeners expected to maintain eye contact if speakers are expected to break eye contact? I didn't read the article so I'm not sure if it addresses this.

[–]FireBreathingFish 0 points1 point ago

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Year 1 university psych class? I think so :P

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Actually it also matters on gender. Men, when they talk, hold eye contact where as when they listen they tend to break away a little bit more where as with women, they don't keep eye contact when talking but will keep it when listening. This was a study performed in the work environment, so that may make a difference and also I can't remember if it was talk among people on the same job level...damn it now I have to go look this up in my textbook from two years ago. Who knew keeping your textbook could help with reddit...

[–]iLovenakedLadies 0 points1 point ago

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Thanks, I'll be reading this now, thank you!

[–]hoya14 47 points48 points ago

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I admit it may just be me, but there is nothing more awkward than someone who never breaks eye contact while speaking. I start freaking out:

"Oh, shit. We're staring at each other. This is weird, isn't it. Should I look away? But then I'll seem uninterested. Fuck this is awkward. STOP LOOKING AT ME PLEASE."

And in the meantime, I've missed everything the person was saying.

[–]BaZing3 16 points17 points ago

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It makes me feel like I'm having a conversation with an Oblivion character.

[–]peeej 5 points6 points ago

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i immediately break eye contact with him

[–]Wordfan 4 points5 points ago

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Especially when their voice completely changes to that of a different person.

[–]bachner 1 point2 points ago

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i knight you best comment of the comments.

[–]fedex09 6 points7 points ago

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You can say that again!

[–]bachner -4 points-3 points ago

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i knight you best comment of the comments.

[–]bachner -5 points-4 points ago

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i knight you best comment of the comments.

[–]maxmzd 2 points3 points ago

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The worst are the people that lean in way too close whilst talking your ear off, never breaking eye contact. Makes me feel like their goddamn prisoner.

[–]DZ302 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah I feel the same way, whether speaking or listening I'll usually make eye contact for like 5 seconds at the most then look away...After a few seconds I'll make eye contact again and just go through that cycle.

[–]wizzardo 0 points1 point ago

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I usually end up nodding too much and then doing an off glance with furrowed eyebrows as if contemplating whatever unheard point they just made.

[–]i_am_awkward 19 points20 points ago

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You know what's socially awkward? I can never concentrate on what the other person is saying when I'm making eye contact. So from a 3rd party perspective, it looks like I'm having an intense stare-off with the person while they're talking. And because I can't pay attention to what they're saying, guess what? When it's my turn to speak, I end up standing there like a retard going "shit what did this person just say?"

[–]knowlaneknowpain 5 points6 points ago

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Holy shit this is me.

[–]jooze 1 point2 points ago

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Fuck, i_am_awkward.. This hit home for me, but I dont feel awkward. Maybe I should?

[–]tendorphin 142 points143 points ago*

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This is actually natural in western society. In normal conversation you keep eye contact as a submissive posture so the talker knows they are currently in control of the convo. Keeping eye contact while speaking is usually seen as aggressive and rude. So no socially awkward penguin for you! Socially AWESOME penguin.

[EDIT] this is unclear, and I apologize. The speaker should male eye contact occasionally, but not the whole time. That is all.

[EDIT 2] this is officially my most upvoted comment. I'm ok with that.

[–]freezingprocess 31 points32 points ago

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Whats this 'eye contact' you speak of?

[–]tendorphin 88 points89 points ago

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It is actually a custom in western civilization wherein, while listening to someone speak, you take one finger and place it directly on the cornea of the person speaking. In higher class society, you may also add salt, hot sauce, or alcohol to the tip of the finger.

The more you know. ~*

[–]freezingprocess 11 points12 points ago

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So that is why people tell me I am a "social-retard". I've been doing it all wrong! Thanks!

[–]tendorphin 4 points5 points ago

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No problem. I am glad I could help!

[–]MF_Kitten 2 points3 points ago

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I imagine you saying that like Zack Galifianakis in The Hangover.

[–]washburnmav 8 points9 points ago

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upvote for the "more you know" shooting star

[–]tendorphin 1 point2 points ago

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I'm glad at least one person didn't think I was just winking at them :-p

[–]jooze 2 points3 points ago

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~* Nice.

[–]kyleswitch 1 point2 points ago

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What is this 'western civilization' you speak of?

[–]tendorphin 2 points3 points ago

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Western civilization is just an area on earth, wherein people live. It is called western because it is quite significantly more west than the east is, and even further west from the far east. It is, in fact, further west from the east than is the middle east, and that's pretty west. Unless, however, one is travelling east starting from the east, then it is quite significantly far east from the east. But it's the west.

[–]nikniuq 1 point2 points ago

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To quote Ghandi: "I think it would be a very good idea."

[–]skybike 1 point2 points ago

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It's when two people smoosh their eye balls together as a form of sexual stimulation know as "that weird eyeball smooshing sex thing".

[–]brycedriesenga -2 points-1 points ago

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Hi! Ike Ontact; nice to meet you.

[–]LucidMetal 1 point2 points ago

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And all this time I was being awkward without realizing it.

[–]trevorturtle 4 points5 points ago

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"Keeping eye contact while speaking is usually seen as aggressive and rude." Really..? When people look me in the eyes while they're talking I feel a really deep connection with them quickly. If you're talking to me look me in the eyes. I understand it's much harder than when you're listening, but keep eye contact for as much as you can.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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I would say it is appropriate to look people in the eyes when your talking to them every once in a while, but if you look them in the eyes the entire time you come off aggressive or rude.

[–]trevorturtle 1 point2 points ago

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I disagree. I feel like people who won't look me in the eye when they talk either have low confidence and/or are attracted to me and would get lost in my eyes if they did (what someone actually told me). Just because it's normal for people to feel too awkward looking people in the eyes when speaking does not mean that it's rude to do so. It all depends on HOW you're looking at them. If you can't look me in the eyes more than occasionally while you're talking we're just not going to connect as much, I'll feel like you're trying to hide something.

It's not aggressive or rude. If anything it's dominate, and people who can't do it are submissive. The reason you're getting so many upvotes is because people love a good excuse for why they're not strong enough to look people in the eye while talking to them. It's a skill, it needs to be practiced.

[–]papadopus 0 points1 point ago

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or creepy

[–]tendorphin 0 points1 point ago

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Thank you, for pointing that out, I explained it poorly, but I cleared that up in another reply if you care to read it.

[–]snap_wilson 1 point2 points ago

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Who thinks making eye contact while speaking is rude? That's ridiculous.

Avoiding eye contact while talking is a self-confidence issue. (I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but that's what it is.)

[–]dioxholster 1 point2 points ago

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thats what i thought before coming here. I used to make full eye contact when talking to girls all the time so they dont think i lack confidence. Now im having second thoughts, maybe that creepied them out. oh no.

[–]SgtFish 0 points1 point ago

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I could see how this applies to listening as part of a group vs speaking in front of a group, but does this still apply to 1on1 conversations?

I can see how it'd be perfectly normal to hold a conversation while maintaining eye contact (e.g. while dining) or not (e.g. while walking).

[–]bestbiff 0 points1 point ago

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I can't tell if you're messing with people or not to make them continue to look away awkwardly when they talk in real life.

In normal conversation you keep eye contact as a submissive posture so the talker knows they are currently in control of the convo.

So the talker is not making eye contact or is he? At no point in a one to one conversation should both people be making eye contact at the same time? That's common?

[–]tendorphin 1 point2 points ago

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Thanks for pointing that out. CONSTANT eye contact is aggressive or rude. The talker usually, every few seconds, makes eye contact with the listener, to touch base, so to speak. I'm not trying to mess with anyone, I just explained it poorly. If the speaker never makes eye contact they're probably either an asshole or have a social disorder.

[–]watching_willow 0 points1 point ago

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Rude, or flirty...

[–]tendorphin 1 point2 points ago

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True, when flirting people keep more eye contact, but when they break it (as I said in another reply) they often look at corners of mouths, shoulders, ears...

[–]sndzag1 0 points1 point ago

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I think the eyes kind of do it on their own.

I'd like to also add that there's apparently some evidence that we look certain directions when thinking about certain things. (The more bogus one I believe is "People look up and to the right if they're lying" or somthing of that nature.) That said, my eyes tend to wander when I'm thinking, or forming sentences.

That's at least why I tend to look around while talking. Not socially awkward, just... Forming thoughts?

[–]tendorphin 0 points1 point ago

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I've heard that as well. I'm not certain about looking up and to the right if they're lying. that is, i know i've heard that as well, i'm just not sure of its validity.

[–]MagnusKristof 12 points13 points ago

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i look away because im too afraid of aiming my breath at people :(

[–]gonzorazz 5 points6 points ago

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That stinky stare...

[–]Stabone130 20 points21 points ago

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I usually stare at their mouths, instead of their eyes. I wonder what that says about me. Maybe I have a subtle hearing problem?

[–]Sniper_Guz 9 points10 points ago

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I usually stare at their mouths...I wonder what that says about me.

I see what you did there.

[–]ghazwozza 4 points5 points ago

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I do that too. I have to conciously remind myself to look people in the eye.

[–]Wingd 3 points4 points ago

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I think I do have a subtle hearing problem and I do this as well. People may mind but they never have said anything

[–]eyecite 5 points6 points ago

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Same here. It kinda sucks when you're chatting up a girl. Especially because I love eyes. Also, saying "sorry, what?" several times in a conversation doesn't send a good message or help the conversation flow.

[–]scart22 3 points4 points ago

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Same. I can comprehend a full conversation much better when I can see a person's lips. It's like subtitles on a TV show in a noisy room.

[–]tendorphin 2 points3 points ago

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Often staring at corners of mouths, around shoulders, and past ears while people are talking indicates that you are trying to assess them and not what they are saying. This is usually done to potential mates as a subversive, subconscious flirting, but also can be done just to size the person up.

[–]dioxholster 0 points1 point ago

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Larry David stare.

[–]tendorphin 0 points1 point ago

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precisely. haha

[–]LongJohnMcVenturson 1 point2 points ago

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I'd guess it's more likely an anxiety issue if you cant look at someone in the eyes during a conversation.

[–]dylansavage 1 point2 points ago

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Looking in the eyes does not mean staring at them.

[–]ZeroError 1 point2 points ago

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I do that as well. Probably just because it's the bit that's moving.

[–]Vortex17 0 points1 point ago

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I get kind of paranoid when this happens, I usually end up staring at people's teeth if they have bad teeth or something, and I don't realize I was staring until after the conversation. I always feel like a jerk afterwards, especially if that person might be self-conscious about their teeth.

[–]AnnitaDarling 0 points1 point ago

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I hate that! When someone is staring at my mouth while I talk, I start wondering if I have food in my teeth, or if there is something on my face - and then I get facially fidgety. It doesn't help that I'm needlessly vain about my teeth either.

[–]Stabone130 0 points1 point ago

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I'm....sorry. (hides in corner)

[–]AnnitaDarling 0 points1 point ago

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The funny thing is when it's done to me, I do it right back.

[–]scart22 6 points7 points ago

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[–]tendorphin 100 points 3 hours ago This is actually natural in western society. In normal conversation you keep eye contact as a submissive posture so the talker knows they are currently in control of the convo. Keeping eye contact while speaking is usually seen as aggressive and rude. So no socially awkward penguin for you! Socially AWESOME penguin.

This is actually (essentially) true if you're white in western society. I learned a few years ago that when a black person is talking to another black person, they do exactly the opposite. The person talking maintains hard eye contact with the listener, while the listener "roams" with his/her eyes.

Totally normal when speaking to another person within your sub-group, but imagine the havoc this wreaks when a black man and a white man are talking!

White man talking, black man listening: White man "roaming". Black man "roaming". This is normal for both of them. White man sees the black man as "not paying attention" or "not showing respect". Black man sees the white man as "not giving the conversation his full attention" or "not showing respect".

Black man talking, white man listening: White man, prolonged eye contact. Black man, prolonged eye contact. Both men see the other as overly aggressive or confrontational. Regardless of the actual conversation happening or the tone thereof, both men are going to take the (perfectly normal when in context) actions of the other as offensive, based solely on eye contact.

I've experimented by purposefully changing the way I look/roam when talking to a black man. Changes the conversation instantly almost every single time.

[–]Xoebe 1 point2 points ago

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I remember reading about this a long time ago. Black kids were getting into trouble in classrooms for "not listening" to the teacher, when they were letting their eyes wander.

I wonder if this is an African cultural trait or if it developed on it's own in the U.S.

[–]scart22 1 point2 points ago

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From what I recall when learning, it's a function of segregated society in general, and likely developed in the west - but my memory is hazy, and I can't think of how that might be conclusively determined one way or another.

[–]embur 4 points5 points ago

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Student of human communications here.

This is a perfectly normal American trend. It's what we do when we are speaking with someone of similar perceived status, and here's why: eye contact signals listening and attention, so we use it while listening to communicate that we care about what the speaker is saying and that we are letting them have their turn speaking. Attention also communicates authority; by giving someone your full attention (with eye contact, body posture, etc.), you are giving them the floor.

We do the opposite while speaking. When you bounce eye contact around, you are signaling that you have the speaking authority. You are not yet ready to give up your speaking turn, and you signal this by letting your listening be the one giving you attention. When you are ready to give up your turn, you will again return to eye contact.

Were you speaking to, say, your boss or someone with higher perceived status, you would use more eye contact to signal their authority over you. They of course would use less to signal their higher station.

[–]DragonGT 2 points3 points ago

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I recently talked to an older man (in his late 90's). He's in surprisingly good shape, works around his house, cognizant, no apparent illnesses. While I was speaking with him though, I got a little uncomfortable because I to make eye contact while listening and it's scattered while talking. When he's talking though and he likes to talk, he stares. So as a staring listener I felt rude for looking away and rude for looking, haha

[–]embur 0 points1 point ago

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I've never experienced that myself, but I know that some of those little intricacies of interaction are lost on some people. One of my friends never understood why people would wave when they saw one another. People would get mad when he wouldn't wave back to them. "I already saw them. We made eye contact. They know I saw them, so why would I have to wave?"

Ahh, greeting rituals. FUN FACT: You see a friend you know across the street. You make eye contact, wave. You start walking across the street to him. You know that thing you we do when we look away while walking toward him, making sure not to make eye contact again until you're at an acceptable distance? That's mostly an American thing, and many foreigners have a hard time understanding why everyone refuses to look at them when they're walking toward people.

[–]SeahorseRider 8 points9 points ago

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I rarely, if ever make eye contact. Just never liked looking people in the eyes growing up and still don't as an adult. I understand this makes me rude, but it makes me incredibly uncomfortable looking people in the eyes, especially when talking to them.

[–]MrClean75 -3 points-2 points ago

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I had a crazy shroom epiphany awhile back, goes something like this: I don't like making and maintaining eye contact because it drains me of my energy, taking all minutiae of the human body.

[–]laboye 2 points3 points ago

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That's crazy, all right.

[–]MrClean75 1 point2 points ago

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Maybe. But why do you think so?

[–]DragonGT 1 point2 points ago

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I know, with shrooms especially, I feel broken down. Like the barriers my mind holds in place are down and my true being is totally exposed to everyone, especially others who are on shrooms too. Like if at that point, I lied about anything, they would see right through it.

I think part of the reason eye contact can be so intense is because you're both immediately aware of and attention is being given to each other. With people you're more comfortable with and know, it isn't nearly as intense, unless you feel like you're hiding something. With people you don't know, it can be very unsettling.

Then again, I noticed on shrooms I can literally feel emotional energies of others quite naturally, looking at them. I remember looking over at one of my friends, he looked right at me and as soon as I seen him, I knew he was having a bad trip and could feel it. It was pretty awful feeling energy so I looked away. We ended up talking about how we live our lives and changes he desired for a good time after.

[–]Dergeist_ 4 points5 points ago

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Eye contact while I am talking makes me instantly lose my train of thought/start stuttering/forget what I was saying.

[–]SilverSultan 3 points4 points ago

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Eye contact is 'distracting'. A lot is being transmited that is not words. When you speak, your brain is trying to get all the information together so you can properly say what you are trying to say. So it is perfectly normal not to look into the eyes of other person while you speak.

[–]gindc 3 points4 points ago

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I didn't see this mentioned. When people are thinking, they will typically look up and to the left or right. When I see people doing this during a conversation, I always assume they are deeply involved and are thinking about the topic. When they look me in the eye while they talk, I assume they are just reciting something the heard.

[–]rockowallabee 3 points4 points ago

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Awesome, a reddit post extremely relevant to my research! I study how we can model humanlike gaze behavior for virtual characters in human-computer interfaces, enabling them to be more effective communicators. We design these characters to make less eye contact when speaking rather than listening, since that's exactly what humans do. Basically I try to design virtual human beings to not be socially awkward penguins.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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Creates account at noon. Submits first post at 12:30.

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points ago

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Want the sad truth? I tried to quit reddit by erasing my account. Went great...

[–]juvee 1 point2 points ago

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oh man :(

[–]Lavernius_Tucker 1 point2 points ago

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Sir, I feel you. I'm on my third account. A novelty account I made during the reign of my first at that.

[–]kylez0rz 0 points1 point ago

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Upvoted for the name!

[–]The_Schwenk 0 points1 point ago

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ONE OF US

[–]TheWill2Live 1 point2 points ago

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I do this too. If I actually stare back at the person in the eye when I'm speaking I'm alot stupider with what I say because I'm more focused on "Oh it doesnt look like he gets it" or "Oh she doesn't seem to be happy with what I'm saying"

[–]stopsucking 1 point2 points ago

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I do the same thing. Drives my wife crazy. "I'm right here in front of you why are you looking everywhere else?"

[–]oneminuteslow 1 point2 points ago

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I think this is the American eye contact habit. I read a really good article about it some time ago. Different countries have some very different eye contact habits, but in America, we look away while speaking and make contact while listening.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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yeah, i'm swedish though... :)

[–]the_other_sock 0 points1 point ago

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I'm Swedish too and I have the same non-issue of looking away while talking, and looking straight at someone when they are speaking.

Although, I feel it is an issue because somehow it feels like I'm doing it wrong. I wonder if Swedes do tend to look at people when they talk? What do you think?

[–]aumanchi 1 point2 points ago

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My girlfriend does this, only when I'm sitting next to her, she looks at me instead of the person she's talking to. I told her that I noticed she was doing it, and she said I'm her comfort zone when talking to people.

[–]goodbyemeow 1 point2 points ago

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I can't look at people for too long in general. I'm very good at understanding people and figuring them out; knowing what they are thinking. it is hard to stare and stay interested when I already know what they want to say.

[–]WhatAboutDubs 0 points1 point ago

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John...uh, John Edwards?

[–]whoops1995 1 point2 points ago

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A girl has actually called me out for doing this. Never have i ever felt so uncomfortable talking to someone than i do talking to her now

[–]taldor 0 points1 point ago

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This kills the relationship

[–]cresur 1 point2 points ago

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I actually look away when listening because faces take up all of my data processing or something, so if I really want to pay attention to what it's being said I have to look at something not interesting. Same thing when I have to really think about something, sometimes I even need to close my eyes.

Conversely, I can't listen to music while doing something else. Music also monopolizes my brain.

Now, when I'm speaking I maintain eye contact whenever. Never really thought about it.

I don't think we're supposed to never break eye contact, though. That's unnerving. Like all aspects of communication, it should be seasoning.

[–]cutter631 1 point2 points ago

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Eye contact while speaking gives you dominant position, eye contact while listening give you submissive position.

[–]monochromatic_oeuvre 1 point2 points ago

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[–]paa79594 0 points1 point ago

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No, yourenot.

[–]0xbdf 1 point2 points ago

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Dude, my eyes dance like mad too. It's really not a big deal, it's an intuition thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEa7vtXrNQQ

[–]UNHDude 2 points3 points ago

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I have no idea if this is actually true or not, though I do this and I'm an ENFP.

For me it seems more like an anxiety thing. I look someone in the eye when they're talking, but when I'm talking I feel like I'm on the spot so it's a little more nerve-wracking. When I'm looking at someone in the eye and I'm talking, I'm so distracted by the reactions on their face that it's hard to focus on what I'm trying to say.

[–]0xbdf 1 point2 points ago

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So, sometimes it's an anxiety thing for me, because I don't have the thing I want to say yet. My eyes dance when I'm figuring it out.

However, quite often I know that I'll be able to derive the answer or find the right idea to share because I have a well-developed intuitive map of the space we're discussing. In this case it doesn't make me anxious because I know I'll be able to start talking quickly, and I know that I'll have something cogent and lucid to say.

INTJ, by the way.

Sometimes I start talking while I'm still finding the idea.

Sometimes I tell the other person that I need to think for a moment.

With people that know me, the dancing eyes don't matter at all, because they expect it from me and like the results when I do it. More than one person whom I greatly respect has told me that when I do my stare-into-the-distance or throw-my-head-all-the-way-back thing, that the next thing I say is always awesome.

So basically, I've learned how to accept that I do this, and though it's caused me troubles in the past, I've learned how to navigate around them and effectively be myself in conversation.

I don't have job interviews totally figured out yet. That's a different ball game.

[–]eyecite 0 points1 point ago

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Same here, and I like the way you worded it. INTJ as well.

[–]chrisms150 1 point2 points ago

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I'm not a psychology major, can anyone lend some credence to what this man is saying? Some more, scientific sources than just a youtube video? I'd like to read more

[–]0xbdf 5 points6 points ago

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I'm not a psychology major either, but here's my map of the system he's talking about:

The idea is that there are two basic ways that humans process information, sensing (S) and intuition (N), and there are two basic ways that humans make decisions about that information, thinking (T) and feeling (F).

Sensing deals with concrete, definite, present, and real. Intuition deals with abstract, patterns, and concepts.

Thinking is logic-based decisions, and feeling is value-based decisions.

Everybody thinks, feels, intuits, and senses, they just learn the different tools in different orders during the course of their lives.

Here's some wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_cognitive_functions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator

[–]chrisms150 0 points1 point ago

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Thank you. I will be entertained after class today!

[–]tendorphin 1 point2 points ago

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I am a psychology major, and actually did reply elsewhere in the thread, but keeping eye contact while speaking is often seen as agressive. You do get feedback from them but their feedback is often subdued and cowed as they often feel more submissive than listening has already made them.

[–]hazelmon 0 points1 point ago

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I've read somewhere that your brain does this, to concentrate on speaking and not reading the others mimics. Force yourself into it, gives you instant feedback and people appreciate it. I always check if people can do it.

[–]SirSandGoblin 0 points1 point ago

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look at one after the other, left eye, right eye, mouth, just look there, just do that, you end up with the right sort of ratio of actual eye contact, get into the habit of doing that and before you know it you're just doing eye contact naturally

[–]tomllm 0 points1 point ago

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I do this. I used to be very introverted, but going to boarding school at ages 16-18 totally changed me... just not the eye contact when talking.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I never knew I had terrible eye contact but then I finally noticed I would look fucking EVERYWHERE but the person.

[–]TheHumpadump 0 points1 point ago

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We've all been there bro. It's fine as long as you don't stare at inappropriate parts. Trust me. You don't want to do that.

[–]heystopthatsgay 0 points1 point ago

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same same same.

[–]Biganon 0 points1 point ago

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I do the contrary :|

[–]Alabaster_Slayne 0 points1 point ago

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I maintain eye contact... Am I weird?

[–]TheAethereal 0 points1 point ago

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If you maintain eye contact non-stop, then yes, you are weird, if by weird you mean unusual.

[–]Alabaster_Slayne 0 points1 point ago

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Usually I do, yeah. It just seems disrespectful not to. I mean I don't ಠ_ಠ them hardcore, but I look 'em in the eye.

[–]CubemonkeyNYC 0 points1 point ago

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Totally normal.

[–]Crossfox17 0 points1 point ago*

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I started to force myself to look people in the eyes when I talk to them. I don't stare; I do break eye contact every few seconds, but I always come back and look them in the eye for a few seconds at a time. If you never break eye contact you come across as super intense. I have found this helps boost your own confidence, and makes other perceive you as more confident. I also try not to be the first person to look away. Its all part of trying to act more confident, even if you don't feel it, and it really, really helps. The trick is to not look intense while you are doing it, just relax and smile, otherwise you can come across as creepy.

[–]keepingitcivil 0 points1 point ago

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I only ever look at someone when I'm speaking when I'm asking a simple question or saying something I've already formed in my head. If we're in deep conversation, my thoughts are all over the room; if I didn't look, I wouldn't see them.

[–]sevenfranks 0 points1 point ago

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I actually hate it when a speaker keeps eye contact with me in a group setting. I am often trying to be polite and maintain eye contact because he is speaking, but in reality I'm thinking "FUCK, LOOK AT SOMEONE ELSE!"

[–]keepingitcivil 0 points1 point ago

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I only ever look at someone when I'm speaking when I'm asking a simple question or saying something I've already formed in my head. If we're in deep conversation, my thoughts are all over the room; if I didn't look, I wouldn't see them.

[–]Vezqua 0 points1 point ago

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i do it too ;(

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I hate how I do this too.

[–]yomama84 0 points1 point ago

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I do this a lot too....it sucks

[–]CrayolaS7 0 points1 point ago

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If I know what I'm talking about I can maintain body language and eye contact with people just fine while I'm speaking to them. If someone asks me a question and I don't know what to say I fall to pieces.

On more than one occasion while a teenager I kissed a girl unexpectedly because I was lost for words. 60% of the time it worked all the time.

[–]abbott_costello 0 points1 point ago

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It's the other way around for me...is that bad?

[–]MisterNiceGuy91 0 points1 point ago

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I immediately feel like I'm staring. And then I start looking around and land my eyes on her tits. Like that's gonna help... It does.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I do it all day long, so as to not stare at your boobs while I think

[–]SuperMeatBoi 0 points1 point ago

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This is completely normal...

[–]IPlayDaPianoz 0 points1 point ago

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Ummm how is this awkward? I'm pretty this is just what a lot of people do, as in, people of regular awkwardness.

[–]jorellh 0 points1 point ago

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Better than: Avoids eye contact at all times, ends up looking at necklace in the middle of cleavage and thought a perv.

[–]dodahead 0 points1 point ago

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I was hoping for either a deformity or a micropenis. Total letdown.

[–]router_duck 0 points1 point ago

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I wouldn't be able to concentrate on what I'm saying whilst staring at someone in the eyes. It's too distracting.

I've tried it before and my mind goes blank

[–]Babyw 0 points1 point ago

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Are you autistic?

[–]toastgirl 0 points1 point ago

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If this is normal, then why do people always look behind themselves when I'm talking? ALWAYS.

[–]CaffeinatedGuy 0 points1 point ago

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Despite the comments, I'm going to start paying more attention to this. I do look away while talking because I'm thinking. I will pay attention to what other speakers do, as well.

[–]JayEff123 0 points1 point ago

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fuck... im just glad im not the only one

[–]grayrobot 0 points1 point ago

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I only do this when it's loud and I have to raise my voice.

[–]milkspores 0 points1 point ago

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I wish someone could teach me how to stop turning beet red every time I talk to someone that I haven't known for a decent amount of time. The moment there's more than one pair of eyes on me I turn into a tomato.

[–]PotentialSexualAsult 0 points1 point ago

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Finally, an awkward penguin I don't relate to.

[–]sbranson 0 points1 point ago

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I find that when I look intently at someone while speaking we always unavoidably drift closer and closer until we're within kissing distance. So I glance around to break up the trance.

[–]JordyMOOcow[!] 0 points1 point ago

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Actually, when listening to music in general, one can focus more, whereas if you weren't listening to music, you'd have a much more difficult time focusing. Take for example listening to a boring lecture in class without music, your mind will typically begin to wander. Now, if the same lecture were to go on, while listening to music (having the music low, just enough to hear it, but not enough to drown out everything else), your brain is forced to focus on what is being heard, also making you focus on the lecture at hand.

[–]mnkybutlr 0 points1 point ago

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What is up with all the eye gymnastics in this thread? When I'm talking to someone I'm looking them in the eye. Am I the only one lol?

[–]wayndom 0 points1 point ago

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Are you a habitual liar? All the people I've known who can't/don't ever look me in the eye while talking are...

[–]chimmi 0 points1 point ago

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ADHD

[–]myfriendintime 0 points1 point ago*

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I there any way to know if you're making the right kind of eye contact? A test or something? I'm pretty unsure about my own habits, and it's hard to notice in conversations.

[–]Biscegnm 0 points1 point ago

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How do you know my life?

[–]dossier 0 points1 point ago

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Don't worry, the people you do it to hate it more. The listeners think you're bored of talking to them and then leave.

[–]roundedge 0 points1 point ago

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I hate this about you too.

[–]bacardee 0 points1 point ago

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how bout who gives a shit where you look? stop being so anal about stupid shit like that. Derp i'm not staring into your eyes when I talk to you, so what?

[–]DallasDrive 0 points1 point ago

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Holy crap this is my one pet peeve about people! It drives me insane when people look to the top right or left with their eyes but their face is facing towards you when they speak. You have ALL my upvotes and my firstborn AHHHBLAGAGHGGA!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Stop thinking about it. FTFY...seriously! AND stop hating yourself! Do it! Do it! This is from a guy who TODAY quit a 50 grand job for a 30 grand job, and I am so fucking happy!! Lexapro also works.

Word.

[–]HeDoesntAfraid 0 points1 point ago

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I do it all the time while listening and talking. Fuck.

[–]redditbotboy 0 points1 point ago

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You may be ADD

[–]wwninja -1 points0 points ago

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That's classic introverted behavior! You might enjoy reading this book.

Disclaimer: I am not a psychiatric professional or anything remotely close to it.

[–]avecespoir 0 points1 point ago

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I'm an extrovert, and I do this.....

[–]wwninja 0 points1 point ago

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Introversion/extroversion isn't an either/or, it's a continuum. Most of us are somewhere in the middle.

[–]playfulpenis -1 points0 points ago

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Looking someone in the eye while speaking to them is distracting. Instead of focusing on what you want to say, you can get sidetracked and focus on the color of their eye, their eyelashes, how they blink, etc.

Plus when you're brain is search for original things to say, your eyes will dart around a bit, not hone in on one spot like you're a bird.

[–]Chilloutitsjustmetal -3 points-2 points ago

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Downvoted. Learn how to socialize and stop fishing for sympathy on the internet.