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Interesting Graph (i.imgur.com)
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[–]chowriit 170 points171 points172 points 11 months ago
Firstly, this graph misses out a lot of countries. I suspect if you included, say, the rich oil producing middle-eastern nations, the USA would have some company.
Secondly, as someone else commented the previous time this was posted, the curve is soley to fit to a single outlier (Turkey) - a linear fit seems a better choice.
Certainly, there's likely a strong correlation between GDP and education levels, and between education levels and acceptance of evolution, so the graph isn't surprising, and certainly the USA has an unusually low rate of understanding of evolution due to the problems you guys have with Christian fundamentalism, but I've always felt this graph is a bit dodgy.
[–]icanseestars 20 points21 points22 points 11 months ago
Now plot northern USA and southern USA.... but include the GDP and education levels... direct correlation there as well.
North - well educated, more wealth, more acceptance of evolution
South - poorly educated, poor, less acceptance of evolution
[–]squigs 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago
Interesting suggestion. I doubt there's stats for north and south, but I wonder if there are acceptance of evolution statistics on a per state basis. A quick google didn't produce anything for me but if reddit can find something it would be interesting to compare.
[–]rockerode 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
There you are
[–]squigs 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
Sorry, the page you wanted doesn't seem to exist anymore!
:(
[–]rockerode 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago
Reuploaded to imgur. It shows how heavy religion is in each state, rather than acceptance of evolution. But the two usually go hand in hand.
Thanks.
(States by per captia GPD)[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/US_states_by_GDP_per_capita_%28nominal%29.PNG]
Appears to be a certain correlation between light on one and dark on the other. Fr from perfect but we don;t expect that. Good enough to lend weight to the argument at least.
[–]descartesb4thehorse 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
As someone from the West Coast, I'm really confused by people trying to divide the contemporary U.S. into North/South, religiously and politically. It just plain doesn't break down that way on this side of the country. For example, Los Angeles (definitely in the southern half of the West Coast, geographically) has way more in common politically with Seattle (far north West Coast) than it does with Prescott, AZ (roughly the same latitude as L.A.), and one of the most religious place I've lived was less than an hour's drive from the Candaian border.
[–]Siam_Thorne 8 points9 points10 points 11 months ago
The North/South of the US typically refers to the East Coast, deriving from the distinction between North/South of the first states to be colonized, separated from the rest by the Appalachian Mountains and the Mississippi River. Otherwise, the rest of the US is referred to as the West Coast or the Midwest. For a better reference point, try this map.
[–]descartesb4thehorse -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago
Yes, I get where the terms come from, but responding to something about the U.S. as a whole by pointing out that studying the northern U.S. and southern U.S. as separate entities would yield different results implies either that the whole of the U.S. falls into those two categories or that the parts of the country that don't fall into those two categories can be ignored.
[–]malogos 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Ok, Northeast + West coast vs South and Midwest.
[–]mariod505 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
What about Canada, Australia, Japan, New Zealand, Mexico...? I mean wtf...
[–]shooshx 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Japan is there.
[–]arkanus 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago
First thing I thought. UAE, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Qatar are all missing.
[–]I_have_30_dicks 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
Imo Indie and China should make an appearance too, considering they are the only two other nations that can match or exceed our population.
[–]arkanus 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
Good point. China would probably be in the upper left hand corner. I have no idea about India. This is basically the US vs. EU countries. The yellow dots are basically all former USSR states. This is basically a terrible graph. I would love to see a graph of the same states using "distance from Greenland" as the Y axis. I would expect to see the near mirror of the curve provided.
[–]zlozlozlozlozlozlo 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
The yellow dots are basically all former USSR states.
Most of them are not.
[–]arkanus 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Formal states:
Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia.
The rest are in the Warsaw Pact which were practically puppet states of the USSR.
However, your point is technically correct and I should have said "Warsaw Pact" rather than "former USSR states" though the factual difference between these two is questionable.
[–]DrTom 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I don't think the fact that these countries would be near the US diminishes the point very much. It might even support it.
[–]nerdolution 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
a linear fit seems a better choice
A linear fit wouldn't make much sense here, as the curve should reflect the fact that the highest rate of non-believers can only fall between 0 and 100%. The current model is a much better choice for this data.
That being said, the maker of this curve still fucked up, as A should be 100 (not 101) for exactly that reason.
[–]chowriit 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
I hadn't considered that - it's not an unreasonable point. However, while I agree the graph has to be forced to asymptotically approach 100%, I would have thought the origin would also need to be a fixed point. Wouldn't it make more sense to vary the (negative) power of x as your variable?
[–]nerdolution 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago*
Forcing the curve to go through the origin would mean a nation in which everybody is a deist has no net-worth at all. That quite a strong assumption to make.
I agree that there is no good reason for the formula used for the curve fitting. Using a curve of the form 1-e-x would have been a more natural choice to me (edit: or even better a shifted sigmoidal curve)
[–]0ctobyte 40 points41 points42 points 11 months ago
Why is Canada always left out of these things. :(
[–]Wanhope 26 points27 points28 points 11 months ago
No shit, red is for "The Americas" yet only the U.S is shown.
I'm Canadian, we matter sometime dammit!
[–]Stoogith 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Don't lump us in with their lot eh? I'm pretty sure we'd be far off the U.S.
[–]Wanhope 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
Exactly, even though "technically" we aren't a secular country (if you have sung out national anthem lately, there is a curious 3 letter word in it) we still have far less religious prevalence, and even lower level of fundies.
Too cold up here, they die outside with their picket signs.
[–]dementedsnake 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Hey, calm down eh. We just thought you wouldn't be interested. You have a full schedule of hockey and snow shoveling to worry about.
[–]fan_22 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 months ago
Not only that, if there was a poll, most Canadians would ignore it.
[–]Skibum04 -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 months ago
Red? Do you mean the orange color? At best I will give you red orange.
[–]psygnisfive 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago
Burnt umber?
[–]OtherThowawayIsWorse 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
Probably the same reason the rich oil producing middle-eastern nations are omitted.
[–]AgentStabby 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Same with Australia :'( We should make our own, better graph.
[–]Le7 -16 points-15 points-14 points 11 months ago
Same reason south park draws you guys in such a half ass manner. Nobody really cares about canada except canadians.
[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 11 months ago
DO NOT FEED
[–]Le7 -10 points-9 points-8 points 11 months ago
:)
[–]sn1p3rb8 -9 points-8 points-7 points 11 months ago
turns out "The Americas" doesn't just include the USA
[–]WhoMouse 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
Except on that graph...
[–]znk 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
There is a point called "USA" on that graph. Where does "The Americas" come in play?
[–]sn1p3rb8 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Look in the upper right corner, where the dots are colour coded.
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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago
I have said it before. All this graph proves is that you do not have to have a majority believe in evolution to have the second highest GDP in the world (according to countries listed).
This could even be construed as a "pro creation graph" because of what it correlates.
TBH, I have no idea what the person who made this graph was thinking.
[–]phillycheese 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
It needs to be presented along with a wealth distribution graph which shows that the US has one of the highest GDP per capita because all the smart people can take advantage of the vast amounts of idiots in the country.
[–]efrique 9 points10 points11 points 11 months ago
The curve in the lower end of that graph is determined almost entirely by Turkey. If you remove Turkey, the relationship doesn't really go anywhere near there.
I don't have much confidence in a curve whose appearance is driven by a single point.
Also a multi-repost
[–]therant 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
As a Romanian, it's good to see that quite a few of our people believe in evolution despite us being one of the most religious countries in Europe.
But, man... Norway! That's where it's at!
[–]laughter_track 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
The only reason we're "where it's at" is because of our oil. That may very well change in a couple of swift decades if we don't come up with some new ideas.
[–]Tattycakes 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
I've been advised by a Norwegian that they should be closer to the line, belief in evolution is much more prevalent than the graph suggests. But that's just personal experience vs statistics.
[–]Nimonic 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Well, I haven't seen any statistics, but I think I've met a total of three people in my entire life that didn't believe in evolution.
[–]laughter_track 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Are you Norwegian? If so; hei. I also haven't met.. anyone really who profoundly believes that we didn't evolve from monkehs, but keep in mind that we do have a "bible-belt" in Norway too. But yeah, this is actually quite shocking if it's correct, I would never dream that so many people believed in the god delusion, so to speak, in Norway.
(Yes, I'm Norwegian, couldn't you tell?)
[–]Illmad 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Hva faen? Har vi et bibel-belte i Norge? News to me. Hvor da?
[–]alliha 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Eg tenkar sørlandet med ein gong. Evt så har du bygdene og bedehus-miljø.
Sørlandet-ish. Hvor det er et bedehus bak hver busk.
Jeg bor i Stavanger. Har noen bedehus her og der, men veldig få religiøse som jeg kjenner iallefall.
Samme her, men det er en grunn til at jeg ikke kjenner de. Man velger sine venner.
Vel, jeg har noen religiøse besteforeldre, og en onkel som er katolikk. Men han interesserer seg for vitenskap, så det er ikke en helt lost cause. Men jeg irriterer meg over at noen som står meg så ner kan tro at paven er en bra mann.
I have a total of one. And he barely counts as his answer is more like "it does have some holes".
[–]therant 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Yeah, but it's not necessarily the percentage of people who believe in evolution more than it is about those average income figures.
[–]necroforest 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago
Hey, if i selectively omit countries i can make a graph say what I want it to say as well.
[–]mmtrebuchet 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago
Sorry, I'm in gradingBadlyWrittenPapers/destroyHappiness/☹ mode. See the end of this post for a more happy response. But I think this figure has some big holes: (These are addressed to Mr. Piro.)
(This is addressed to Prestian)
Happy mode engaged! ☺. I wonder what a plot of belief in evolution against belief in Abrahamic God looks like. If there's a clear trend there, I would speculate that might be more causal. (Yes correlation does not imply causation, but it is a hint.) If there's no trend in that, what is there a causal relation with, I wonder. (OK, what sort of punctuation am I supposed to use with a sentence like that?
I like that this plot does not attempt to imply causation. It's just a correlation that has a (to me) very embarrassing outlier.
The chemist in me is happy with the large number of data points. (32 of them is usually good enough for a fit.)
[–]energy_engineer 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Thank you. Folks are quick to say "correlation does not imply causation" without even knowing what correlation means.
[–]elisa_fdm 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Have an upvote from a fellow chemist.
Quick question though: if the best fit is a linear fit, would we not reasonably expect at least some outliers on the upper part of the graph (i.e. some nation with small wealth but high belief in evolution)?
And as a fellow Super-nitpicker I think the use of the quotation marks is correct in the pic; that's how they are used in Europe, at least. I suspect from your spelling that you come from the other side of the pond so your conventions may be different.
[–]mmtrebuchet 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Hm, that's a good point. Maybe a normal distribution is a bad description of the data. In fact, it looks sort of like the data are closer together at the top than they are at the bottom, so maybe something akin to a chi-squared distribution is a better description. Then again, I'm looking subjectively for a pattern in the data and found it, so I reject my conclusion as biased.
[–]BuckeyeBentley 8 points9 points10 points 11 months ago
Hot babes, secular society, wealthy... damn I wish I lived in Norway.
[–]smallfried 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
Lived there. It was cool, but also cold. And expect to pay a lot of taxes. Their social programs are awesome though.
[–][deleted] -12 points-11 points-10 points 11 months ago
They don't allow immigrants. It is like Sweden, you can only move there if are middle class/ moderately wealthy. Kind of misleading to be honest.
[–]Karlstromer 7 points8 points9 points 11 months ago
What? Södertälje commune in Sweden with about 80.000 inhabitants takes in more refugees from Iraq than the U.S. and Canada, combined.
[–]llothar 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago
Just moved to Norway from Poland. There is no need for visa. Work permit is just a formality - you just look for a job, when you find it you go to the police station and say "I found a job!" and they say "Here you go, permanent work permit!". I kid you not.
Rules apply to all EU citizens.
[–]mamalujo 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago*
Hm, for immigration from new EU members at least, Sweden was quite liberal.
They had the option of not accepting migrants from there for 2, 5, or 'if there is serious proof' it would be disruptive, but it could still be just their say-so (not sure), 7 years. But they didn't choose any such restrictions, neither for 04' nor for 07' members. I think no other 'old' member did this for all of these countries.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Freedom_of_movement_for_workers#Transitional_provisions_in_new_member_states
You what now?
[–]NonPermissive 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
Why do I feel like there's some missing countries here.
[–]snellnici 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
I suspect the numbers are off by quite a bit. I live in Finland and I would be very surprised if the percentage of people who believe in evolution in any of the Nordic countries wasn't at least 80%. I personally know one person who doesn't believe in evolution and perhaps two or three more who aren't sure.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
I've said this before, and I'll say it again.. To Iceland!
[–]cybin 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
I think the greatest part of science is it doesn't give a fuck what you believe.
[–]FerociousImbecile 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Source?
[–]Prestian 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
The source is on the graph. I got it from a facebook group.
[–]BolshevikMuppet 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
And in today's lesson entitled "Correlation Does Not Imply Causation", we'll explore... This Graph!
[–]cheeseburgz 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Why is canada not on this graph? We're always left out of these things!
[–]Wolfsburg 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Hear hear, brother.
[–]jonr 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Iceland, fuck yeah.
[–]Dam_Herpond 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
This graph is terrible, why does the best fit line go through turkey which is clearly an outlier? The line may as well have gone through USA. That's just the beginning of what's wrong with this graph.
I think acceptance of evolution is irrelevent, at a guess higher education rate correlates with acceptance of evolution and high eduction also correlates with higher GDP. You've skipped out the middle common factor.
[–]tyrghast 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
We need to do everything we can to erase the word 'belief' as a prefix to evolution.
People acknowledge evolution, they don't believe it. I don't 'believe' the sun is in the sky, I acknowledge its existence based on the mountains of data I have regarding it.
[–]jackblack2323 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Why has no one asked me if I believe in evolution?
No one has even asked me if i'm an atheist or not.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Why u no have r squared??
[–]totalmagie 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
ctrl+f sqrt
founds someone who actually knows what a 1/x function looks like (is r/atheism still in 6th grade?)
Because fuck Australia.
[–]Rosie2jz 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
i know i was looking for it but nope :(
[–]herman_gill 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago*
Scientist here. You can't believe in evolution. You can come to a logical conclusion that evolution happened based on the overwhelming amounts of evidence for it.
I know it seems pedantic, but when you say "I believe in evolution", you can then equate it to something like "I believe in creationism". I guess it's similar to the word theory, where crazy people often go "Evolution is just a theory!"
That's my bit for for r/atheism today and it's probably poorly worded, so downvote away.
Also the graph is missing notable countries that where a large portion of the country accepts evolution as fact and is fairly wealthy, notably Japan & Canada.
[–]tommorris 6 points7 points8 points 11 months ago*
Philosopher here. "Belief" doesn't mean "unjustified belief". It makes perfect sense to say "I believe Paris is in France" and then to go onto say "I know Paris is in France". But it doesn't really make any sense to say "I know Paris is in France but I don't believe Paris is in France".
For most professional epistemologists, knowledge is a subset of belief. Belief is simply that mental attitude one has towards some proposition.
If I stick you in one of those ghastly neuroscience experiments and stimulate some part of your brain in such a way, I can force you to believe that there is a red light on. You have a belief: that's a fact about your mental state. Whether it happens to tally up with the outside world is a fact about the world.
But, of course, this is just definitions. To use it in the way many philosophers do seems sensible - because believing something is pretty value-neutral. You can use it in the way you suggest: relegating "belief" to mean something like "unjustified belief" or indeed "faith" or "superstition". But we already have some good words for unjustified beliefs, like "unjustified belief". Indeed, if all belief is by definition unjustified, then the terms "unjustified belief" and "justified belief" become somewhat redundant because it is by definition unjustified belief and anything which is justified belief isn't a belief, it's something else (some might say 'knowledge': I have lots of long and pedantic reasons why that isn't so, but this isn't r/philosophy so I'll STFU).
There are four lights!
[–]JadedIdealist 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
We can let this one go now.
[–]jecrois 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Maybe the discrepancy can be accounted for by the 'pretenders.'
[–]Grimsonite[] 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Norway and Turkey... Forever alone.
[–]oteren -2 points-1 points0 points 11 months ago
Not to mention that Norway should be around 99%.
'belief in evolution' is a non issue here..
[–]teflondass 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
I know several people who dismiss evolution here in Norway. Even at NTNU I know people dismissing it, which I find quite disturbing.
[–]laughter_track 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago
Well, keep in mind that we have a so-called "bible-belt" in Norway as well. But yeah, it's pretty shocking.
[–]teflondass 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Trust me, I know. I actually grew up in the bible belt.
[–]Nickd1200 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
This graph dose not accurately prove there is correlation between belief in evolution and a countries wealth. some one could interpret it the opposite way since the u.s. is #2 on the graph. also it seems that the U.S.'s stat has flipped.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/20/40-of-americans-still-bel_n_799078.html
[–]NewShinyCD 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Can we please quit reposting this graph?
[–]jobrohoho 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
what are a and b in the equation?
[–]nigganigga 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I refuse to believe app. 40% in this country believe that.
Only 40%?!?!
[–]Brotaufstrich 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Why? The data does not include those who said "I don't know" or "Probably, but I'm not entirely certain" - most likely a considerable group given that even some schools in the US teach evolution just as one of several explanations for the different forms of life. That doesn't mean that those people are all hardcore creatonists, it just means that they noticed that part of the public considers a concept that they have no real interest in to be somewhat controversial, and therefore decided against giving an absolute "true" statement when asked about it.
In countries where the matter is treated as absolutely uncontroversial, the people who don't concern themselve with the issue at all will be more likely to just say "this statement is true" without thinking twice because they never experienced that someone who wasn't easily identified as a nutter acutually challenged this concept.
Shit, man. I know of only one person who doesn't believe in evolution in the abstract, and that's my grandmother...
I must have a shitty experimental group.
Some of those people would probably not have answered "Yes" but "Very likely" if the survey allowed for that answer, only because they don't concern themselve with the subject matter and know that the subject is somehow controversial. I'm sure the number of people who absolutely agreed with the statement "There is no such thing as evolution" would have been significantly smaller than 60%.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I kinda disbelieve the graph. Well, not the graph exactly, but the data as collected from the US specifically. I am willing to bet that more people in the US believe in evolution than don't. In fact, outside of here and on TV, I haven't even run into one disbeliever that I am aware of. Not even on Facebook. (Which is why I live vicariously through your Facebook battles.)
In fact, the cynic in me thinks that some people who claim not to believe are liars saying such so that they can make money in some way.
[–]rapture_survivor 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
fucking norway...
[–]invisible_lurker 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
why :(
[–]BdotDS 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
It was interesting, but still a correlation/causation fallacy, the first several times it was posted.
[–]canteloupy 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Perhaps with the median income you could include many more countries and the US would fit better?
The median income is the income where half of the population has less, half has more.
[–]silvercorona 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
You should put Canada and Mexico on the map to fill out "The Americas"
[–]Barney21 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Actually what this shows is that per capita GDP, even when adjusted for PPP, is a poor measure of the well being of a country. Median income is where it's at.
[–]DoorGuote 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
OP, what are the r-values for both a linear and a curved fit?
[–]A-SES 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Proud to be Icelandic. Although every time I go to school, every 6-7 out of 10 kids are wearing a torture device around their neck. And like 80% of the population in the country are christian.
It seems as if nobody gives a shit about religion, and don't even bother studying it.
[–]FeroxDeoVacuusVinco 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Fucking outliers
[–]teerev 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
so you exclude canada?!!!
[–]marmk 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
USA! USA! USA!
[–]superkp 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
why does this matter?
[–]gogbonk 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Good guy Hungary. Pisspoor, but the majority accepts evolution.
/sad.
[–]twodard 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Not really, belief in evolution corresponds with education level, education level corresponds with wealth, simple.
[–]FortyPoundBaby 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Why would you leave out Canada?
[–]EricWB 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
You only put one North American country.. Canada didn't happen to cross your mind? Canada is a very rich country and it also has quite a few Christians, although I am atheist and am ashamed of this I feel like what you did here was biased. Downvoted.
[–]brenan6 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Theres no fucking way Icelanders make more than the japanese.
[–]nixons_dog 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
Per capita, maybe. Japan has a top ten world population and has been in an economic slump for a couple decades.
EDIT: It's very close, but Iceland is higher nominally. If you factor in purchasing power parity (PPP), Japan has the edge.
[–]OrangeNova 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
List says the Americas.
Graph only has USA.
[–]RHSC 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Does anyone know how Canada is doing?
Sort of seems to support "One cannot worship both God and mammon" more than what I think you're going for.
I do not find it interesting.. the graph does not show a correlation between the GDP and the belief in evolution... Norway and USA has the highest GDP but (according to this graph) two very different beliefs...
[–]rokyn 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I'm Icelandic, living in denmark.. I am proud.
[–]rastawrangler 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
That has to be the worst fit I have seen to a graph in a long time. But you are right, it is interesting that someone bothered to make it at all. Much less comment on it and attempt to show "math".
[–]bam2_89 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
This graph shows why the world economy is in its current situation. The single greatest shareholder of wealth has a disproportionate level of stupidity.
[–]NoDownvotesPlease 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
I'm always surprised the UK doesn't have higher rates of belief in evolution, since Darwin himself was English. Not to mention, Aldous Huxley, Dawkins, Hitchens, Hawking etc.
[–]thesolitaire 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
Anyone else dismayed that this tops out at about 80% belief in evolution?
[–]BolshevikMuppet 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
[–]energy_engineer 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago
This graph never implied the cause - just the correlation.
Whenever someone shows a correlation, we don't need to jump on the "but that's not causation!!!" train. Correlation establishes dependence (statistical relationship between variables) - it does not imply cause on its own.
Yeah, but this is the same bullshit that people pull when they imply that atheism is bad because Mao and Stalin were against religion and were bastards in other ways.
That doesn't change the validity of the argument's implementation.
The bullshit part about using Mao and Stalin is that only 2 data points are used.
As a physical scientist, I laugh hysterically at how pathetic this graph is.
[–]MeltyButter -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago
Ireland ftw
[–]drockers -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago
very biased graph, actually so extremely biased I can't help but feel it was done on purpose.
[–]godspeaks2me -2 points-1 points0 points 11 months ago
And there's also a reason why the USA is arguably the best country and most powerful in the world. That's because we don't subscribe to backwards ideologies like evolution.
[–]Rosie2jz 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago
riiighhtt instead you believe in a magical person in the sky who watches your every moment and keeps you safe from the badies like the boogy monster and your devil? Grow up.
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