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Evidence vs. Belief: A Tale of Two Bunnies (i.imgur.com)
submitted 10 months ago by jerfoo
[–]iHype 182 points183 points184 points 10 months ago
Gaps in the puzzle record!
[–]jerfoo[S] 25 points26 points27 points 10 months ago
I LOL'd that one. Nice!
:)
[–]Rainblast 17 points18 points19 points 10 months ago
Your sentence is missing a word. With the gap, there is no way to be sure what you are trying to say.
I have faith, however, that you are suggesting the puzzle is a duck.
[–]nightzirk 118 points119 points120 points 10 months ago
Then the female bunny becomes all progressive and admits that he puzzle is probably not a duck, but it was the duck that designed the puzzle.
[–]StapleGun 52 points53 points54 points 10 months ago
Those others who used to think it was a duck just misinterpreted. The duck was a metaphor for a bear and a tiger. But not the water, I like water, that part was literal!
[–]Tripledots 274 points275 points276 points 10 months ago
Winnie the Pooh is a theory that's out there. I just don't think it should be taught with tax payer dollars. There is a huge gap in the theory, and the sacred box tells us that it is a Duck.
Have faith in the Duck. He is our path to salvation.
P.S. if you don't believe in the Duck he'll pull you underwater for all eternity and you'll get very wet. It's entirely unpleasant.
[–]SDRules 58 points59 points60 points 10 months ago
If the Duck were to go away, what would we base our morality on? It would be chaos!
[–]jenkins567[] 57 points58 points59 points 10 months ago
I know if the Duck didn't exist, I would have killed many, many people...
[–]NoahFect 20 points21 points22 points 10 months ago
Stalin, for instance, did not acknowledge the Duck.
[–]realitysfringe 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago
I know. I'm terrified of people who doubt the Duck. I mean, without the duck, I'd be out raping every woman I could. Let me tell you, faith in the Duck has made me blessed, unlike those disgusting Pooh theorists.
[–]Teotwawki69 22 points23 points24 points 10 months ago
Don't worry. It's Ducks all the way down.
[–]Tripledots 25 points26 points27 points 10 months ago
Quit mocking my beliefs! Ducks are completely unlike Turtles. Do Turtles have wings? Do they quack? Exactly.
[–]Teotwawki69 8 points9 points10 points 10 months ago
Oh, but I suppose you think it's perfectly all right to mock Turtles.
[–]Tripledots 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Well yeah. It's ludicrous to think that a Duck would create infinite turtles to hold up the earth. That job's clearly done by giant duck eggs.
Think about it, Steve Jobs wears a mock turtleneck, not a mock duckneck! It's simple logic.
Atheists can be so silly sometimes.
[–]vdirequest 8 points9 points10 points 10 months ago
It is written, If the Duck were to go away one day, it would return anatidae.
[–]datajunkies 7 points8 points9 points 10 months ago
Is it the moral because it came from the duck, or are we duck like because it is moral?
[–]Seekin 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
If the Duck didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent Him.
[–]tieranosaur 18 points19 points20 points 10 months ago
We should start a new religion: Anatadaenity. We can all be Anatadaeists and our tithing will be one tenth of our monthly bread portion.
[–]MrDuck 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago
This is the only comment that makes sense. You should totally do this.
[–]tieranosaur 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago
MR. DUCK SPOKE TO ME! AAAHHHHH! What would you have me do, Master? How shall I spread the word of your divine duckliness?
[–]MrDuck 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
WEAR DOG MASKS, BAN SHOTGUNS, RESTORE THE EVERGLADES AND WETLANDS. --KEEP HOLY THE NAME OF MALLARDZUMA.
[–]tieranosaur 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
ALL GLORY TO MALLARDZUMA! dons dog mask with fanatic glow in eyes
[–]mysterx 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Awww crap! If only I wasn't Anatidaephobic
[–]SunbathingJackdaw 7 points8 points9 points 10 months ago
Reminds me of my favorite piece of badly-targeted contextual advertising ever.
SHUN THE NON-BELIEVER!!
[–]datajunkies 39 points40 points41 points 10 months ago
Fear the duck, obey the duck!
[–]Riobe 29 points30 points31 points 10 months ago
For the duck loves you!
[–]edtasty 30 points31 points32 points 10 months ago
For Duck's sake!
The duck doesn't love me. My bunny family and bunny friends love me.
[–]SoundOfOneHand 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
QUACK QUACK QUACK!
[–]Unidan 8 points9 points10 points 10 months ago
Give us this, our daily bits of bread.
[–]LimitForce 641 points642 points643 points 10 months ago
A damn good analogy if I've ever seen one.
[–]jerfoo[S] 180 points181 points182 points 10 months ago*
Thanks :)
EDIT: Sorry for hi-jacking this but there was a spelling mistake. I've fixed it here if anyone wants it
[–]LimitForce 317 points318 points319 points 10 months ago
Oh damn, this got way too meta. The Winnie The Pooh puzzle is 24 pieces in it's entirety, and the duck puzzle is 25. People will always claim there's a missing piece.
[–]jerfoo[S] 125 points126 points127 points 10 months ago*
Don't think I didn't notice that :)
I know we have another 25 piece puzzle made by the same people as the duck puzzle but I couldn't find it. I had to settle on the Pooh Bear one.
Although, Pooh is sometimes referenced by metaphysical and philosophical writings, so I guess it worked out well.
EDIT: Damn... it took me this long to notice that you counted the Winnie the Pooh puzzle pieces! I had the box staring me in the face so I knew it was 24 pieces, but you took the time to count them. Bravo!
[–]LimitForce 36 points37 points38 points 10 months ago
Isn't over-interpreting fun? I guess i understand how some people devote their lives to the practice.
Oh wait.
[–]BlackbeltJones 8 points9 points10 points 10 months ago
No, go with your first choice. Trust your instincts!
[–]sprucenoose 66 points67 points68 points 10 months ago
Well done! My extended version, "Investment of a Lifetime!":
Bob: Joe, I have the investment opportunity of a lifetime for you. I just had to tell you about it!
Joe: Wow Bob, really? Even in this market?
B: Absolutely. I’m thrilled too. You know I don’t get excited much, but this is something else.
J: You never get excited, and you’ve already made us both a fortune. Alright, let’s hear it then.
B: Well, this is an amazing company. Just amazing. They make incredible products, have the best services, and operate perfectly.
J: Sounds great!
B: Yea, but that’s just the beginning. They basically have zero costs and constant growth!
J: Really? That sounds too good to be true!
B: Exactly, it’s just amazing. They’re getting lots of investors. People are really, really excited.
J: I bet. So, what exactly are their products and services?
B: Oh, high demand stuff. Medical cures, business advancements, scientific solutions, civil advancements – the list goes on.
J: Core stuff here, definitely. Anything I’ve heard of?
B: Well, I don’t know if you’ve heard of it, but you’ve definitely seen them in use. In fact, The only reason I made it here today was through the use of their services.
J: What do you mean?
B: Well, on the way over hear I almost got into an accident, but one of the company’s products saved me!
J: That’s a relief – I’m so glad to hear you’re okay. You do have to be more careful, though. I’ve seen your driving.
B: I don’t have to be careful anymore, Joe. This company’s got all kinds of support services, so it’s really a breeze.
J: So, what’s the catch? This sounds too good to be true. There has to be a catch.
B: Well, you’re sort of right there, Joe. First, you have to work for the company to invest.
J: What? I’ve never heard of an investment like that. You have to work for it?
B: I know it’s unusual, but you have to work for it. But it has great management. In fact, the management is the greatest management ever. It’s perfect.
J: What are you talking about? Perfect management? No company has perfect management.
B: That’s where you’re wrong! This management is absolutely perfect! If you don’t believe me, just ask anyone else that works for the company! 100% perfect.
J: Okay, I guess, but that’s asking a lot.
B: You know what they say, if you want to win big you’ve got to play big.
J: Right, but for me switching from bonds to blue chips was a big deal. This sounds a little more extreme. I’ll need to see some numbers to make a decision here.
B: I’m gonna have to stop you right there, Joe. In fact, numbers are frowned upon at this company.
J: Frowned upon, how can that be the case?
B: Real investors don’t need to worry about the numbers, buddy. It’s actually not kosher to even ask about the numbers.
J: You can’t even ask about numbers? Then how do you know the company’s doing well?
B: Because as I’ve already mentioned, it’s basically the greatest company ever! Remember the amazing services and the perfect management? Also, this company has such great products and services that it only makes them available to its own investors.
J: Only sells to its own investors? How does that work?
B: It sort of like dividends: You buy in and you get all kinds of benefits!
J: Yea, but still… I guess the services do sounds pretty impressive. You said it helped you avoid a car crash on the way over here. Do they make collision detection systems or something?
B: Something like that. They basically prevented the car crash.
J: I mean, what happened? Did another car come at you and it hit the brakes?
B: Yea, basically. See, I saw the guy in front of me stopping. I slammed on the brakes and stopped before I hit him. If it wasn’t for the company’s products, I probably would be dead.
J: Wow, again Bob, I’m just so glad you’re okay. But how does it work?
B: This is the most advanced company ever, Joe. Nobody knows how it works, except the management. In fact, you don’t even have to install it or anything. Once you’re an investor, it’s automatic.
J: So you don’t know how it works, you’ve never seen it, but you know it saved you life.
B: Exactly. Also, we’re starting to stray into that “no questions” territory again.
J: No questions about the products? Then how the hell will I know what I’m getting into? I mean, this is starting to sounds kind of crazy.
B: Not at all, Joe! I can give you plenty of examples of the success of their products and services! Again, just ask any investor. Any of them can give you lots of examples. Another friend of mine just used one of their medical services. She recently recovered from appendicitis, with the help of the company’s services.
J: I’m glad to hear your friend made it through. But I still can’t ask how it works? And I’m assuming she didn’t have to do anything different or actually see the product?
B: Exactly. Couldn’t be any easier.
J: Right… Maybe I will ask your friend about this.
B: Oh, you can’t do that. You know Cindy, right? That’s the friend I was talking about.
J: Cindy? Your receptionist that died in a car accident last week?
B: Yea, poor girl. Hit by a drunk driver.
J: Didn’t she have that collision avoidance thing that you do in the car? Did it fail or something?
B: Of course she had it, but it only works in certain circumstances.
J: Certain circumstances? Like when?
B: That’s the management’s decision.
J: The management’s decision? The management decided not to save Cindy? How can they do that?
B: Again, no questions there, Joe. Also, remember that the management is perfect. I should be clearer: the CEO makes all these types of decisions. He has a very hands-on management style. He actually founded the company and is still in charge, but his son stepped in and has been doing a lot of the leg work lately. Just a wonderful family. In any case I’m happy to tell you, Joe, Cindy is absolutely fine.
J: She is? Wonderful! My wife was so upset. They really go to know each other at last year’s July Fourth cookout. How did she make it through that? I swear I heard she died. What happened? Was she in the hospital for long?
B: Nope, no hospital time. Again, the company stepped in. They brought her to work at corporate headquarters for being such a good investor. You get to hang out with the CEO!
J: That is something else! We’ll have to get together with Cindy and her husband Greg for lunch sometime. Where are headquarters?
B: Headquarters is pretty far away, Joe. It’s basically impossible to get to unless management takes you. You can certainly have lunch with Greg, though. He’s still in town.
J: Wait, Greg didn’t go with Cindy? Were they having marital problems or something?
B: No, no, no. Greg and Cindy were incredibly happy. In fact, did you hear they just had a baby last month? But the company brought Cindy to headquarters and Greg and the baby are staying here.
J: That sounds terrible! Why would they do that? Why would Cindy go?
B: Management made the decision. But don’t worry, headquarters is absolutely amazing. Again, management is perfect, and at headquarters you get to work alongside them! It’s amazing! And every investor gets to go to headquarters eventually!
J: Oh, well I guess that sounds nice. So when is Greg moving to headquarters?
B: Well, probably never. You see, he’s not an investor. Actually, the company is fairly competitive. If you’re not an investor/employee, eventually it puts you in jail. They have connections and actually constructed quite a facility for specifically this purpose. Frankly, it’s terrible there – torture and everything. It makes the CIA look like Amnesty International. Again, a good reason to invest.
J: Are you serious Bob? I’ve never heard of a company that puts people in jail and tortures them. I can’t even imagine how they’d do that. That’s more than competitive. That’s crazy!
B: I’m so serious, Joe. You see why I want you to invest in this. It’s all part of the company’s growth strategy. All investors are strongly encouraged to recruit other investors, advise them of the benefits of investment and the dangers of non-investment
J: Bob, you’ve been my friend for a long time and I really respect you, but this all sounds insane. I’ve always trusted you though and I don’t want to be left out in the cold here. I’d throw a few bucks in just for fun. I mean, why not, right?
B: Ahhh, yea. There’s a bit of a minimum investment requirement.
J: I knew it. With these things there’s always something like that. Well, I guess you have to separate the wheat from the chaff… So what will it be?
B: You have to invest everything.
J: …
B: Did you hear me Joe? You have to invest everything.
J: I, um… I heard you Bob.
B: You just have to invest everything. And in fact, the sooner the better.
J: Exactly how much is “everything”?
B: Everything is everything. Everything you have.
J: I can’t invest everything I have.
B: You’ll be a happy investor in the company! Look, it’s all down on paper. I brought the prospectus with me.
J: This should be good…
B: It’s several thousand years old but it covers everything we discussed, as well as the company origins as a nomadic desert tribe that devastated its local enemies with management’s assistance. It even has a decent bio of the CEO including his successful genocides and innovations. You can’t just read it and understand it straight off, mind you. We like to stay in line with our investment strategy, but that prospectus is quite a complicated work. Management is kind enough to appoint local agents to assist in the interpretation – they even help you apply the company’s strategies to other parts of your life! We meet weekly to hear what they have to say. You should come!
J: I’m going to have to… get back to you on this one, Bob. Tell your wife I said “good luck”.
[–]rubelmj 26 points27 points28 points 10 months ago
Needs more bunnies.
[–]sprucenoose 7 points8 points9 points 10 months ago
Damn you people. One for each line then...
[–]rubelmj 6 points7 points8 points 10 months ago
It's not my fault the bunny bar has been raised.
[–]littleski5[] 20 points21 points22 points 10 months ago
TL;RA (Too Long, Read Anyway)
[–]sprucenoose 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Thanks so much!
[–]littleski5[] 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
It was a great story, how could I not?
[–]blushingtart 50 points51 points52 points 10 months ago
TL;RHAGU (Read Half And Gave Up)
[–]sprucenoose 18 points19 points20 points 10 months ago
It's not for really for reddit viewing. It's more like a five minute play...
[–]Mark_Mark 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago
It's worth the read. You should try again.
[–]Vaskre 6 points7 points8 points 10 months ago
Read every word. Thanks for posting.
[–]sprucenoose 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
o_O
[–]mr_dragon 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing.
[–]Seekin 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
I'm assuming you've read Kissing Hank's Ass? If not, it's certainly worth a read.
[–]PinballWizrd 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
Didn't read, but as I scrolled past this I couldn't shake the feeling that you are using subliminal messaging to make us think of BJ's.
[–]ProbablyAccidentally 11 points12 points13 points 10 months ago
tl;dr
[–]sprucenoose 31 points32 points33 points 10 months ago
Okay okay, but I'm reluctant since I spent time on this:
tl;dr: If you'd be skeptical about putting a bit of money in an investment, why would you not be skeptical about putting your entire life in a belief system?
Forgot to add: This is reddit, edit!!! Tell me what is unnecessary/incorrect/improvable! I'm happy if you make this more readable.
[–]ultimatt42 9 points10 points11 points 10 months ago
Also, God made both ducks and Winnie the Pooh! And puzzles.
[–]wankerbot 25 points26 points27 points 10 months ago
Hey puzzle manufacturers! You can go home now, God will handle it from here!
[–]ultimatt42 14 points15 points16 points 10 months ago
Not to mention that God has given us the Greatest Puzzle Ever Told: the Bible with its infinite solutions! As long as you're willing to cut off bits of the pieces to get them to fit together.
[–]SometimesATroll 8 points9 points10 points 10 months ago*
Or just cut off your own credulity. It gets much simpler after that.
*FUCK I USED THE WRONG "YOUR". I FUCKING NEVER DO THAT. THIS MAKES ME SAD.
[–][deleted] 10 months ago
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[–]ultimatt42 21 points22 points23 points 10 months ago
I think you'll find that the intricate shapes and patterns of puzzle pieces cannot be explained without assuming a designer. And based on the Principle of Distractionary Hyperlinking, this means that God designed them. The puzzle manufacturers are just part of His divine plan.
[–]dyboc 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Good point but that's not what meta means.
[–]liberalwhackjob 39 points40 points41 points 10 months ago
OMG is this OC?
[–]jerfoo[S] 72 points73 points74 points 10 months ago
Indeed it is. From me to reddit.
[–]Titties 22 points23 points24 points 10 months ago
Brilliant work, friend. This should be seen by millions.
[–]Teotwawki69 15 points16 points17 points 10 months ago
This should be a children's book.
[–]jerfoo[S] 23 points24 points25 points 10 months ago
Wow. Thanks! I'm really happy it's so well received.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 10 months ago
It really deserves to be. I don't know if I have ever seen a better analogy presented in a more hilarious way. This is going to be reposted dozens, if not hundreds of times in the future.
[–]JoshMachines 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
Repost it, NOW.
[–]Sweddy 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago
Repost it, 2012 YEARS AGO!!!
[–]ZombieKingKong 10 points11 points12 points 10 months ago
So, was it a duck?
[–]tatsumakisempukyaku 7 points8 points9 points 10 months ago
course it was, the box said so.
[–]dafones 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Thank you for choosing Pooh Bear.
[–]Zorak 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
This is excellent work. Just as a heads-up, there is a typo in the last frame, in the top blue box the word "piece" is spelled "peice".
[–]prince_nerd 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
I had given the same analogy a month ago :)
[–]CMEast 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Posted on facebook, nice work!
[–]joeymcflow 20 points21 points22 points 10 months ago
Absolutely. Maybe this will encourage people to think "outside the box"
[–]Antrikshy 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Pun intended?
[–]bangonthedrums 25 points26 points27 points 10 months ago
Obviously, if evolution were true it wouldn't be a duck in the puzzle, but a crocoduck!
Evo lie tion!
[–]CuntSmellersLLP 8 points9 points10 points 10 months ago
Never heard evoLIEtion. I've certainly heard EVILution from family members, however.
[–]datajunkies 6 points7 points8 points 10 months ago
Lol, mom is that you? ;P
[–]victorsierra 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
CuntSmellersLLP... I hope it's not your mom.
[–]CuntSmellersLLP 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago
She is, however, a well-respected client.
[–]Cognoggin 114 points115 points116 points 10 months ago
It's obviously spaghetti.
[–]Nictionary 46 points47 points48 points 10 months ago
Ramen.
[–]n4b0k0v 9 points10 points11 points 10 months ago
Sorry, that would be non-overlapping magisterium.
[–]cleveringer 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
r/pastafarianism
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago
The spaghetti monster was the puzzle the whole time.
ALL HAIL THE CHURCH OF THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!
[–]frasoftw 13 points14 points15 points 10 months ago
Great... now I'm going to say "It's a duck" whenever the right time happens and no one will understand... just like "I don't care" from the iPhone4 parody.
[–]jerfoo[S] 12 points13 points14 points 10 months ago
Ha ha! As I was typing the content into Photoshop, I thought the same thing. I had a bunch of "it's a duck" type lines and it got me thinking that it would be great if we replaced "God did it" with "It's a duck".
[–]YoureUsingCoconuts 9 points10 points11 points 10 months ago
What also floats in water?
Close enough?
[–]servohahn 135 points136 points137 points 10 months ago
It takes just as much faith to not believe it's a duck is it does to believe it's a duck. That's why Winnie the Pooh is only a theory and not a fact like ducks.
[–]Egon88[] 42 points43 points44 points 10 months ago
Did you make that yourself? If so, I am very impressed. That is the kind of thing kids should be reading.
[–]jerfoo[S] 32 points33 points34 points 10 months ago
I did indeed. Thank you very much. Though my kid's toys and my wife's DSLR helped :)
They were both out of the house so I was able to play.
[–]Tripledots 32 points33 points34 points 10 months ago
Meanie atheist takes child's toys to blaspheme The Lord. Details at 11.
[–]PuyallupCoug 28 points29 points30 points 10 months ago
That's a fantastic analogy. Nice work!
[–]TEA_PARTY_PATRIOT 18 points19 points20 points 10 months ago
GOD BLESS THAT PATRIOT DUCK
[–]TheLoLgen 27 points28 points29 points 10 months ago
After a certain amount of arguing, the female rabbit will make a puzzle piece out of paper that fits into the puzzle, but on it is a picture of a duck.
[–]schwerpunk 12 points13 points14 points 10 months ago
A very rabbit-looking duck, no doubt.
[–]wogmafia 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Duck in the gaps.
[–]tehmikey 20 points21 points22 points 10 months ago
Definitely, a duck.
[–]what_american_dream 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
"Who are you? You are so wise in the ways of science!"
[–]Encratis 16 points17 points18 points 10 months ago*
Ducks do spend an awful lot of time by ponds though. I'd have to say there is definitely a duck but it's not the duck from the box.
[–]jerfoo[S] 24 points25 points26 points 10 months ago
Truth be told, I looked over the Winnie the Pooh puzzle carefully to make sure there wasn't a duck in the picture. A number of butterflies, but no duck.
[–]Darth_Hobbes 10 points11 points12 points 10 months ago
There could easily be a duck in the missing section.
[–]BadJokeHour 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago
I don't know if you read the comment above you, but he looked at the box and there's no duck.
[–]YoureUsingCoconuts 11 points12 points13 points 10 months ago
How can he trust that box and not the other one?
[–]schwerpunk 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
There could... Though I fear our duck-of-the-gaps may be rapidly shrinking.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 10 months ago
Winnie the Pooh is just another religion.
[–]applecidercore 8 points9 points10 points 10 months ago
So Jesus was a duck?
[–]jerfoo[S] 9 points10 points11 points 10 months ago
He was the duck.
[–]applecidercore 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
He's not my duck!
[–]GJCaesar1138 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Well he did float on water.
[–]probabilistic 13 points14 points15 points 10 months ago
TIL Calico Critters still exist.
[–]jerfoo[S] 27 points28 points29 points 10 months ago
They do indeed. The boy bunny actually had a run-in with my dog. He was buried, found, cleaned off, and returned to the rest of his bunny family. You'd think with a resurrection like that, he'd have more faith in God.
[–]Teotwawki69 6 points7 points8 points 10 months ago
Did you name him Lazarus after that?
[–]Titties 17 points18 points19 points 10 months ago*
Billions of rabbits believe in the box. Are you saying they are all wrong?
The manufacturer of the puzzle is testing your... willingness to return the product.
We should halt our efforts to find that last puzzle piece. Why would we need it, anyways? The duck is much prettier.
Even if we did find the last puzzle piece, it doesn't matter. It still came from the box.
If you don't enjoy the box with me, I'm going to cut your fucking head off.
An evil ex-employee of the manufacturer created the Winnie the Pooh puzzle to trick you into not believing in the Duck.
[–]stufff 21 points22 points23 points 10 months ago
This is why I still read this subreddit. Once in a while someone posts something interesting, thought-provoking, and original, instead of a facebook argument.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 10 months ago
Now we just have to somehow figure out how to incorporate this post into a rage comic and we'll be set.
[–]Grezzz 12 points13 points14 points 10 months ago
One of the best posts on this subreddit for a while.
Nice work :)
[–]jerfoo[S] 8 points9 points10 points 10 months ago
Thanks! I really wanted to contribute to this reddit and I finally got the chance. I'm glad it's being so well received.
[–]afcagroo 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago
The duck is on the other side. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it isn't there.
[–]jerfoo[S] 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
I almost started with the pieces upside down so the boy bunny could discover the image and thus begin the puzzle assembly... but I decided to condense the message.
[–]PandaJesus 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago
This is brilliant. Excellent work. I hope you will make more of these in the future :)
[–]jerfoo[S] 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago
My wife says I must.... I'll definitely try. This is what happens from being unemployed I guess :)
[–]joeflux 6 points7 points8 points 10 months ago
They should find the last piece, and end with:
"There! See! We now have all the pieces"
"You've arranged them wrong - it's a duck"
"What? No, this is the right arrangement"
"Have you tried every possible combination to check?"
"Well no, but.."
"Then it's a duck."
[–]MrArtless 45 points46 points47 points 10 months ago
This is the best thing I've ever seen
[–]jerfoo[S] 31 points32 points33 points 10 months ago
Thank you kindly. When my four year-old gets older I'll have to show her how daddy played with her toys :)
[–]chazysciota 18 points19 points20 points 10 months ago
Are those "Sylvannian" rabbits? I haven't seen those in years.
[–]jerfoo[S] 22 points23 points24 points 10 months ago
Sure are! I... I mean, my daughter... has the squirrel family too.
[–]chazysciota 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago
As a bastard of a big brother, even I had to admit that those Sylvannian houses were kind of cool. My sister had a big one, with a boat load of furniture. Only the rabbits though, iirc. Thanks for the walk down memory lane. Great comic too, nailed it.
[–]scientastic 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
Not only am I sure it is a duck, I think you planted some fake puzzle pieces.
[–]daniel_hlfrd 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago
This isn't about religion, this is about quantum physics. Schrodinger's cat and what not.
[–]NoahFect 60 points61 points62 points 10 months ago*
My question about this post is, how is christianity completely disproven?
It's almost impossible to disprove anything. This is why the burden of proof lies on the party making the positive assertion. Otherwise you could troll a logician by demanding that he prove there is no invisible dragon in your garage, your neighbor's garage, or anyone else's garage within the greater metro area.
I mean, yeah we get closer and closer to knowing the origins of the universe, but why does that disprove creationism more and more? I mean we know at one point the universe was a singularity. A single infinitely dense and infinitely hot point in the middle of nothing. Creationism is an explanation of where that singularity came from. The big bang was proposed by Georges Lemaitre, a catholic priest. It doesn't make creationism any less a possibility.
Science is more concerned with necessity than with possibility. The goal is to find the simplest explanation that fits the facts.
In religion, though, there are thousands of creation myths, of which your faith's is only one. If you have reached a point at which you no longer believe you have more to learn by studying the physical aspects of the material universe, then it may bring you comfort to pick one of these myths (usually the one your parents and/or neighbors did) and use it as a way to avoid further critical thought on the topic ("It's a duck.")
To me and to many atheists, it simply does not make sense to look for spiritual or otherwise-immaterial answers when we have not yet learned everything we can about the physical aspects of the universe. The entire history of science and spirituality is a story of the latter asserting that we've finally reached the point where they are needed, only to be forced to fall back when the kid assembling the puzzle finds another piece.
The cartoon works really well as a "God of the Gaps" metaphor. It implicitly acknowledges that the last piece may never be found in the sofa cushions, and that it might indeed have one or more ducks on it. It's obvious that our universe is certainly not the one described in the Bible, just as the puzzle is certainly not the one depicted on the box. But it's also apparent that the "It's a duck!" bunny is not going to give an inch of ground to the aduckist bunny unless/until he can find every piece. In this, she is demanding proof from her friend that she mysteriously does not require of the company that made the puzzle box, just as creationists demand high standards of proof from their biology teachers that they don't require from their pastors.
[–]syndicate 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago
Wow, that is really well said
[–]jerfoo[S] 15 points16 points17 points 10 months ago
Honestly, the post isn't about God per se, it's about evolution. Although, I did make it general enough to apply to God but it's really about evolution vs. creationism.
[–]muuh-gnu 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago
Your story can be applied on many levels. Evolution & Creationism is just one example of "god did it", so in its generality, it is about god. Sincerely, this is the best link I have ever clicked on in /r/atheism. It just condensed years worth of ever repeating discussions, arguments and comparisons into a few simple, cute and understandable pictures, similarly how this one did it. Thank you very much for this, it made my day. :)
Wow, thanks for the very kind words. You, too, made my day. I got a lot of kind comments--I'm thrilled that it was so well received. I'm glad you liked it.
Also, the "in the dark" link that you posted in your comment is also one of my favorites.
[–]unfinite 29 points30 points31 points 10 months ago
But creationism isn't an answer. All it does is shift the question of "where did the universe come from", onto god. Where did god come from?
You've gone from:
we don't know > universe
to:
we don't know > god > universe
How does that answer anything? And why would you assume a god in the first place? We don't know the cause yet, we may never know, but there's absolutely no reason to assume it was a god until there's any evidence that it was. What's wrong with saying "I don't know yet" and pursuing the answer.
I hear all the time "The universe/humans/whatever is so complex, it must have had a designer." But if your position is that very complex things need designers, I mean, God must be really complex, right? To have designed the universe? Who designed God? I comes right back to the same argument as above; it's a non-answer.
Here's a really interesting talk on physics and cosmology; what we know about the universe, and how we know it: hopefully you enjoy it. Let me know what you think if you find the time to watch.
[–]iamthewaffler 13 points14 points15 points 10 months ago
"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence." -Dawkins
In essence, belief in things that have zero basis in reality or empirical truth deeply trains our minds to not question or make any attempt to learn about the universe.
[–]danski 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago
Okay - let's posit there is a vanishingly small possibility that an intelligent being crafted the starting state of the universe with the eventual evolution of the human race in mind.
Then let's acknowledge that there are many religions, many of which put their own gods in the place of that universe-crafting entity.
All we can do is look at the claims made and weigh them against the evidence - when examining christianity, we note that the christian story of creation is contradicted by what we've found out about the universe. For instance, we know that the earth did not exist before stars were formed in the universe (Genesis 1:10-14).
We can also examine the theology and apologetics - for instance, the existence of evil is often attributed to man's free will, but if you're saying that a god created the universe many billions of years ago knowing that mankind would eventually evolve, then you are evoking a deterministic universe in which free will is an illusion and making a decision is merely a sensory by-product of entirely predictable interactions in your brain's chemistry. To say this is to completely pass over the amount of times it is claimed that the god of the bible is claimed to have altered people's moods, meddled in their lives and issued edicts of murder - all of which contradicts the free will principle in the first place.
Seeing that the claims of christianity contradict the facts, we can make one of two conclusions:
1) Christianity, as a whole, is a total fabrication 2) The claims of christianity are incorrect due to errors in writing the bible, and the christian god may yet exist.
I'm going to be presumptuous and assume you've gone with #2.
We've just been forced to admit that the fundamental tenets of the christian bible are incorrect - the creation story doesn't add up, apologetics about the existence of evil contradict the "modified" creation story that takes into account the big bang, and so on.
Now - how are we to determine if anything else in the book is true? We'll need to verify it against other historical sources... some of which contain references to places also mentioned in the bible (confirming the existence of those places) but none of which contain references to the more outlandish events described in the bible has having happened at those places - for instance, the plagues of egypt, or zombie uprisings after christ's resurrection.
We're now at a position where we can't actually verify if any of the supernatural stuff described in the bible is true. We've admitted that it may have been fundamentally altered during translation, or may never have been correct to begin with.
And yet people will try to design legislation and even national policy based on their personal interpretations of the commands read from this incoherent document. The result is war, erosion of scientific discoveries as this nonsense is taught in the classroom, erosion of personal liberties as laws are drafted to apply christian-interpreted biblical morals to the general populace, and, really, the entire human race is held back because some people just can't let go of the bible no matter how many ridiculous inaccuracies it contains.
That's the damage.
[–]sailorh 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago
I think this sort of analogy applies more to literal interpretations of the Bible than it does to the broad ideas of Christianity. Science hasn't dis-proven the existence of God and likely will never be able to. But it has pretty well dis-proven the Genesis creation story. It is the people who literally believe the myths of Genesis who believe the puzzle is still a duck.
[–]Diazigy 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago
Also, responding to your other remarks,
I think Christianity can still be compatible with the latest scientific advances.
For example, the big bang. We don't know what caused the big bang, but I suppose its possible that a God made it happen. But why wouldnt the bible make any mention of this? You have to be pretty liberal in your interpretation of biblical metaphors to get the big bang from genesis.
But even through Christianity can be compatible with science, theres still no evidence that Yayweh exists, and that Jesus was his son, and Eve was made from Adam's rib, etc. etc.
[–]Diazigy 11 points12 points13 points 10 months ago
I think you missed the point, its not that the boy bunny disproved Christianity (the duck), he merely showed that there is no evidence to believe in the duck. So the boy bunny rejected the established dogma that the puzzle was of a duck, while the girl bunny chose to cling to her dogma even in the absence of supporting evidence. Even when it became clear that the puzzle was absolutely not a duck, she still chose dogma over evidence.
Its a metaphor on how most religious people refuse to accept any evidence that would contradict their belief system.
[–]muuh-gnu 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago*
Scientists' goal is not to "disprove" Christianity. You may believe otherwise, but from a scientists' point of view, the claims of Christianity (and all other religions) are too ridiculous to be even worth disproving. Really religious people (and not only the "cultural" christians) are perceived as simply crazy. You dont go around mental homes, listen to crazy people's stories, and then try to argue with them to "disprove" them. This would just be a waste of intelligent people's time. The only reason some atheists even bother to argue with believers is because believers often directly seek secular/political power with the intent of pushing their ridiculous religious agendas down everybody elses throats.
If Christians wouldnt constantly try to push Christianity on everybody else, we wouldnt even be talking to each other here. /r/atheism would probably not even exist. Atheists would just ignore you, like they do for example in Europe. Nobody argues about religion in Europe any more, it's dead. When the pope tries to speak, people either dont care or flat out laugh. But in the US, you religious people dont let us ignore you. You dont keep it for yourself, you are too aggressive. This is why we try to systematically deconstruct your naive, iron-age superstition before your eyes to confront you about what you believe in the hope that it will become embarassing to you to publicly push it into politics so one day we can go into ignore mode like the Europeans do.
[–]napoleonsolo 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Christianity could be considered disproven because very often when the Bible discusses some aspect of nature or reality, it is wrong. The age of the Earth, the Flood - never happened. (Jesus himself said the Flood happened.) The Bible gets genetics wrong. Even if we're charitable and ignore all the OT nonsense, you've got some errors in the NT as well. Jesus says the mustard seed is the smallest seed on Earth. It's not. And so on and so on.
I know you're going to try and say those are all metaphorical, not to be taken literally. You have to realize that the "metaphorical" defense is largely Christianity's response to being disproven. We've seen the same thing happen with Scientology:
"In one very interesting moment, Davis said, 'Of course, if it's true that Mr. Hubbard was never injured during the war, then he never did heal himself using Dianetics principles, then Dianetics is based on a lie, and then Scientology is based on a lie. The truth is that Mr. Hubbard was a war hero.' And the way he phrased that, that everything depended on whether Hubbard had sustained these injuries and healed himself was like a wager on the table." "I asked Tommy Davis to square the records that we had with the church's own records of Mr. Hubbard's war records. And he said, 'Well, we the church were also puzzled about it until we found an expert who clarified all this.' And he said the man who did that was Mr. X in Oliver Stone's movie JFK who in real life was a man named Fletcher Prouty, who had been involved in inner circles of the American Defense Department. And Prouty, who also had worked for the church, had told them that Hubbard had actually been an intelligence agent, and the records were, as he said, sheep-dipped. That's apparently a term of art in intelligence that maintains that there were two sets of records. And we obtained all of Mr. Hubbard's military records, and there was no second set of records. There was no evidence that he had ever acted as an intelligence agent during the war in any serious capacity, and that he had never been wounded."
"In one very interesting moment, Davis said, 'Of course, if it's true that Mr. Hubbard was never injured during the war, then he never did heal himself using Dianetics principles, then Dianetics is based on a lie, and then Scientology is based on a lie. The truth is that Mr. Hubbard was a war hero.' And the way he phrased that, that everything depended on whether Hubbard had sustained these injuries and healed himself was like a wager on the table."
"I asked Tommy Davis to square the records that we had with the church's own records of Mr. Hubbard's war records. And he said, 'Well, we the church were also puzzled about it until we found an expert who clarified all this.' And he said the man who did that was Mr. X in Oliver Stone's movie JFK who in real life was a man named Fletcher Prouty, who had been involved in inner circles of the American Defense Department. And Prouty, who also had worked for the church, had told them that Hubbard had actually been an intelligence agent, and the records were, as he said, sheep-dipped. That's apparently a term of art in intelligence that maintains that there were two sets of records. And we obtained all of Mr. Hubbard's military records, and there was no second set of records. There was no evidence that he had ever acted as an intelligence agent during the war in any serious capacity, and that he had never been wounded."
People don't just give up their religion when it's disproven. They rationalize it. Whether it's some secret spy conspiracy, or whether they start making excuses for the plain words of their religious texts, they come up with something.
[–]mobileF 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
You should have signed this thing, hopefully it'll get big. Its nothing short of genius.
Whats that quote about "if you can't explain it succinctly, you don't really understand it" ?
You explained the issue succinctly and comedicly....
Tldr. Well done.
[–]subdep 11 points12 points13 points 10 months ago
I like that the fact that these two puzzles are not mutually exclusive.
Completing the Pooh puzzle doesn't negate the possibility that there could still be a valid Duck puzzle somewhere. Conversely, even if there were a valid Duck puzzle discovered, it doesn't negate the fact that the Pooh puzzle is also valid.
The metaphor extends out to there being a possibility that there could be even more puzzles we haven't yet discovered even one piece of yet.
Oh my God, it's full of pieces.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 10 months ago
These are my thoughts exactly. Although we can see a pretty closely solved Winnie The Pooh puzzle; It does not disprove that there is a duck puzzle lying around somewhere. The female rabbit was wrong in stating that the Winnie the Pooh puzzle was a duck. However, she can still hold her beliefs that there is a duck puzzle somewhere. The puzzle could have just been placed in a different box.
[–]iamthewaffler 11 points12 points13 points 10 months ago
On the other hand, it is important to remember that with zero empirical evidence that an actual duck puzzle exists, a sound mind cannot maintain even the slight possibility that a puzzle with a duck (or any other specific puzzle) exists, because there are an infinite amount of puzzles that may or may not exist, and belief in any of them, duck included, is nonrational.
[–]lostinacrowd 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
I just want the bunnies.
[–]ShiningMyStroller 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
What if the last piece of the puzzle is in fact just the picture of the duck contained on the box meant to fit into the Winnie the Pooh puzzle?
I don't necessarily believe it but I'm simply presenting an analogy to reconcile both schools of thought.
[–]donttelljoel 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
i like the bit with the bunnies
[–]BobbyMack 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Great work. You summed up many crucial and relevant points in such a simple and understandable manner. You got something here.
[–]ohnoiamaseed 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
I just saw a duck in my toast.
[–]RobotBuddha 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
That box was obviously put together by NegaDuck to lure you from the one true path. But it's ok, Darkwing loves you very much and will forgive you. Eventually. He might have to pummel some sense into you first. HE LOVES YOU!
[–]republitard 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
...one Nation, under duck....
That wasn't added until the 1950s.
[–]melechkibitzer 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Holy shit. I just wrote this whole rant about belief because I totally interpreted this comic in the wrong way. Upvote and mind blown.
[–]notmyfirstusername 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
Awesome analogy. Great way to explain to kids why grandma doesn't trust science.
[–]Mordred19 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
clever, but you didn't realize that your reality was a test and now you will punished for you incredulity! AH HA HA HA HA HA BUUUUURN!
[–]bronsonbaker 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago
I'm not an atheist ( I believe in some sort of creator, and an afterlife, although I don't identify myself as Christian, because I think that "God" has other shit going on and doesn't give too much of a fuck, really) But this is brilliant.
[–]rockafella7 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
I've always had a similar analogy in my mind but I'm lazy:
Creationism: You don't have all the pieces, so you drew the rest of the picture yourself. Sure you don't have any evidence but at least you have a complete picture.
Evolution: You don't have all the pieces, but the ones you do, fit perfectly and you have enough to tell what the overall picture is.
[–]Warzonekilla 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago
This is brilliant. Thank you for posting this. Finally something easy anyone can understand.
[–]sc2raptor 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
i have the piece. i will not say what it is. -aflack-
[–]KosherDill 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Random Question: I used to have a set of bunnies and other animals that looekd very similar when I was a kid. What is the brand name of them?
[–]JoinRedditTheySaid 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Not everyone who sees it is a duck on the box will automatically not want to make the puzzle.
[–]pretzelzetzel[] 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
This is too good. Bravo.
I'm moving this into the realm of facebook. More people should see this.
[–]oligobop 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Thank you for leaving that last piece out. It represents the universe of uncertainty. It also represents our passion to make things certain, with evidence, or without.
[–]crayonpirate 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
I love this so much. The fact that you used Calico Critters makes me swoon.
[–]znk 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Well done.
[–]ravendward 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago*
It'd be more accurate if that bunny only had 1/100th of a single piece filled in.
[–]xJawz 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
A more realistic analogy might replace the first second slide with a scene of just the two rabbits with the left one saying "It's definitely a duck. Steve left a note saying so that said so a couple thousand years ago."
Yeah, but, that's a logical fallacy because the universe isn't literally a puzzle.
[–]newcomplaint 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Was anyone else just thinking how cute those bunnies are?
[–]pib712 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Those dolls are so cuuute.
[–]Alphoz 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Do you mind if I translate this to spanish and post it somewhere else?, I will credit you of course ;)
Now all my arguments are going to end with "GODDAMNIT IT ISN'T A FUCKING DUCK!"
[–]nard3456 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
I thought about doing an analogy exactly like this for my family. Thanks for doing it for me!
[–]Jeshi 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
The most adorable analogy.
[–]lvl_5_laser_lotus 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Beautiful.
[–]BreSput 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Why is the woman being unreasonable? Sexism!
[–]sriramalka 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Aha, a new meme. Religion == "It's a duck".
[–]crank1978 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Brilliant!
[–]DoTheDew 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
The dumb bunny is Wendy Wright.
We should teach kids both the Winnie The Pooh theory and the duck theory, and let them decide.
[–]Scary_The_Clown 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
I believe it's winnie the pooh because the rabbit in the picture told me that he put the puzzle together and it's absolutely winnie the pooh. I'm pretty sure I could put the puzzle together myself, but why bother? I trust the rabbit.
[–]brainpinata 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Hey OP, I really hope you chose a duck and rabbits specifically to reference this illusion and the associated Thomas Kuhn quote on perception.
If this is your intent you're awesome. If it was not, then claim it was anyway and nothing will change.
[–]GreenJesus423 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
FB'd immediately.
[–]thelobsterhead 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
That's probably the finest picture I've seen yet on r/atheism. Good work.
[–]schlurp 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
this still doesn't capture the idiocy of religion because the belief-bunny actually has some indication that his belief is correct (the duck picture) and his belief is not completely nonsensical (since a duck is something perfectly reasonable) The correct analogy would be if the box did not have any picture on top of it and the belief-bunny believed that the absence of the last piece of the puzzle proved it shows a photo of a transparent, round steel-cube because a deranged hamster told him so
[–]Mnementh2230 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
SO CUTE!
[–]AtheistSanta 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Those puzzle pieces must have been put there to test our faith.
[–]OutcastOcarina64 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago
Calico Bunnies just summed up my perspectives in an image...that was amazing.
[–]spumonimout 2 points3 points4 points 4 months ago
"Faith is not an act of knowledge in something with a low degree of evidence." -Paul Tillich. I agree that you have accurately described misguided "belief" in something very unlikely, but to attack the issue of faith using this comic is a mistake. In fact, most liberal Christians would have no problem accepting the truth of this puzzle; it just means that as our knowledge changes we adjust faith accordingly.
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