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The most important lesson to learn from 9/11. Never forget that: (27.media.tumblr.com)

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[–]sethborders 6 points7 points ago

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rational people fly to the moon.

crazy people fly into buildings

[–]Tommer_man 2 points3 points ago

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I upvoted, but I still think you have to be crazy to fly to the moon. Let's face it, one thing fucks up and you're sky pizza.

[–]willux 1 point2 points ago

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I feel like sky pizza would be lucky. Imagine if they simply passed by the moon.

[–]willux 23 points24 points ago

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No, religious extremism flies you into buildings.

[–]halethrain 7 points8 points ago

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Wouldn't be religious extremists without religion, now would there?

[–]mechigurh 11 points12 points ago

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Evil is not inherent in religion, it is inherent in man.

[–]halfnhalf 7 points8 points ago

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There wouldn't be religious extremists without extremists, now would there?

[–]kr1ztov 7 points8 points ago

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religion has nothing to do with this anymore.

osama bin laden is/was by no means a muslim. there is NOT EVEN ONE scripture that allows the killing of "kafirs"

in fact, muhammad(saw) himself said that even people who insult God or religion are just to be left alone!

[–]universl 2 points3 points ago

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And the armies in the crusades weren't Christians because Jesus clearly taught that violence was wrong. In other news, Hitler wasn't Catholic, Lenin, Stalin and Mao weren't communists and no Scotsmen have ever been sex maniacs.

[–]piptastic -1 points0 points ago

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are you saying we should get rid of both?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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All ideologies have extremists. Therefore we must purge all ideologies.

[–]justanothercommenter -1 points0 points ago

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I fixed it for him.

[–]afsdjkll -2 points-1 points ago

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religion had nothing to do with it.

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[–]willux 0 points1 point ago

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Extremist, not fundamentalist.

You know there's a difference, right?

[–]humortogo 15 points16 points ago

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Get over it !

[–]meinaccount 1 point2 points ago

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thank you for this!

[–]Jefri91 0 points1 point ago

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You are awesome

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[–]Idonttrustpandas 4 points5 points ago

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He might have been raised as an orthodox, but he was an atheist most of his life, and promoted atheism (following Lenine's ideas that religion is opiate for the people). He persecuted the Orthodox Church, only allowing it during WWII as a politically controlled organisation, for patriotic propaganda.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points ago*

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

Stalin proclaimed atheism as an ideological imperative and was instrumental in trying to eliminate religion from the Solviet Union. He was personally responsible for almost completely wiping out the Russian Orthodox Church in the 1930s, he had nearly all of its clergy shot or sent to labour camps, and was responsible for the deaths of over 100,000 religious induviduals. It was only revived as a patriotic exercise in the run up to WWII.

Fucking hell read a fucking history book and stop getting your facts from r/atheism, they are a bunch of utterly-deluded fuckwits who come up with excuse after excuse not to face this awkward fact. Stalin was an atheist extremist who killed far more people for his explicitly anti-religious ideology than the Muslims on 9/11 did for theirs (thats also ignoring the hugely political reasons for 9/11). The fact that those he killed to advance his atheist ideology only make up a small fraction of the total number of deaths he caused is probably something you can take either way.

[–]heizer23 0 points1 point ago

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a bunch of utterly-deluded fuckwits

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[–]AlienwareUser 11 points12 points ago

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...and prejudice leads to ludicrous generalizations like this image.

[–]jlmoltzen 29 points30 points ago

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this is a fucking stupid and ignorant post.

[–]Battlesheep 7 points8 points ago*

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i had no idea that 767's were a gift from God

EDIT: correction, TY fullofit

[–]fullofit 0 points1 point ago

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Those were 767... But yes, they are not gift from God.

[–]ThatsMisterDickToYou 3 points4 points ago

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An ideological battle between Communism and Capitalism motivated the race to the moon.

And it is a shame that now extremists on both side appear to think that victory is shown by destroying the others way of life.

Why not prove the soundness of your system by good works and human endeavour?

[–]revengeonseattle -3 points-2 points ago

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Whilst I liked the simplicity of this cartoon - and your comment goes some way to explaining this, the 'godless' reds of the cold war was exactly the reason 'god' finally got into the US constitution, in 1955, i believe.

This meant that you could argue that 'religion' gets you to support an arab leader, train him, fuel him and then totally fuck with everyone until you get your religious asses handed to you by a different bunch of religious extremists.

I mean. NASA was funded by a country that believes that it is united under a Christian god...

...and that blows.

[–]ThatsMisterDickToYou 1 point2 points ago

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You're absolutely right about the simplicity of my comment.

It makes no mention of the Cold War impact on Czechoslovakia, Afghanistan, North Korea etcetcetc. Quite shameful on my part really.

But I think all history is marked by these failures in human judgement, by the failures in our compassion and behaviour. Each generation has to own and carry these failures and hopefully offer them to the next generation as a testament and warning. They are to a large extent the cost of our progress.

Ideally each generation should try and engineer their systems so that the inevitable conflicts generate the most amount of forward motion and the greatest chance of human progress.

And to tie this to your point I do think that religion can play a role in this. I am no believer but I disagree that religion [or even organised faith] is fundamentally bad.

Our problem is not faith or even the flavour of the God - it is that the 2 extreme sides have denied reason. They are proud of it. Evidence and science are soft and weak. Ignorance is an asset and candidates will be competitively stupid.

And by losing reason from the field there is no common territory or set of tools for them to meet and debate. Instead of logic each side throws spells, planes, incantations and bombs. If I believed in God I would pray for a new Enlightenment.

You are absolutely right. The Cold War was a terrible thing in a number of ways. But the USA of that generation still understood the argument of having and funding NASA. The motives may not be all pure but there is some good in this. The real tragedy is that the USA today would not be able to make or understand the same decision.

TL;DR - Oh don't bother. Really.

[–]Thomas-C 3 points4 points ago

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Yes, 10 years later we are all reminded that douchery has yet to disappear.

[–]eyun 1 point2 points ago

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Science makes missiles, bombs, planes that fly into buildings.

Religion makes water into wine.

Am I doing this right?

[–]Anomander 5 points6 points ago

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/r/Atheism is over here.

I feel like using 9/11 to circlejerk about how religion is bad, without considering any of the deeper cultural causes behind the attack itself is cultural over-generalization and misinformation just as bad as the ideological problems that led to the attacks in the first place.

Thankfully, you don't have an entire culture of uneducated, impoverished, desperate, atheists to preach your message of hate to.

[–]Tommer_man 0 points1 point ago

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Well said.

[–]opieroberts 3 points4 points ago

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Don't forget A-bombs and mustard gas!!

[–]willux 0 points1 point ago

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And Agent Orange.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Religion is not the cause of terrorism.

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[–]Idonttrustpandas 2 points3 points ago

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Nope, muslim extremists see as their right to kill anyone that isn't as batshit crazy as they are. Al Qaeda often target muslim countries.

[–]kivle -1 points0 points ago

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLiku08FlRg

[–]acemacc 0 points1 point ago

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Science is the reason those planes were able to fly into the buildings.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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/Atheism is leaking!

[–]orvil 0 points1 point ago

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science built those airplanes. science is bad.

how's this sound: people do great things and people do terrible things.

[–]MichB1 -1 points0 points ago

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Fundamentalist Evangelical Bigots get almost nothing right.

[–]lazybot -4 points-3 points ago

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