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He's the hero America deserves, but not the one it needs right now. We need Carl Sagan. (i.imgur.com)
submitted 12 months ago by amazingathiestlover
[–]Chumkil 16 points17 points18 points 12 months ago
I disagree. Tyson is wonderful. We can't look to the dead to rise, we are Atheists, not Theists.
We carry on. We admire Sagan and others like him because they have passed on, we should honour them. However, we must forge forward like science itself.
To denigrate Tyson is unfair and unjust.
Tyson is WONDERFUL, and we need him and others like him. I believe he will do an excellent job in Cosmos 2.
Science will only improve, and so will our shows and orators that deal with Science.
Tyson is awesome, he only seems to lack power because he is still alive and not idolized in death.
[–]paraedolia 8 points9 points10 points 12 months ago
You're fucking lucky to have had Carl Sagan then, and you're fucking lucky to have Neil deGrasse Tyson now.
[–]CM2OS7F9YCK209FC 15 points16 points17 points 12 months ago
Not sure what you're saying there...
[–]o0DrWurm0o -2 points-1 points0 points 12 months ago
Same here.
Although, I must say I do prefer Sagan. I feel like Tyson is just missing a critical piece of charisma that Carl Sagan had.
[–]WhoMouse 4 points5 points6 points 12 months ago
Being high? :)
Honestly, I prefer NdGT, but I fully appreciate Sagan as well. This is why I'm confused. Why does OP think we should have to pick between them?
[–]o0DrWurm0o 1 point2 points3 points 12 months ago
Haha, maybe.
I think he's better at conveying the wonder he feels for the universe. Tyson is certainly amicable, but I feel like he's not as easy to empathize with.
[–]WhoMouse 1 point2 points3 points 12 months ago
Well, it must be just one of those things where it's all who you empathize with better. I get it from Tyson, you from Sagan. Hell, I know an atheist who honestly doesn't like Tim Minchin, and I think he's (the atheist friend) fucking nuts for that. :)
I still don't see what the OP was trying to say or why we'd need to make a choice overall (as a community) as to which is better. But whatever. If one resonates better with you, then you listen to that one more. Easy choice on the individual level.
It's probably because Tyson's black and I'm subconsciously afraid he'll steal my bike.
[–]BetYouCanNotTellMe 1 point2 points3 points 12 months ago
Well look what he did to Pluto!
[–]WhoMouse 0 points1 point2 points 12 months ago
No, if it was that, I'd be there with you, because I've been high, but not black. :)
I enjoy things like Sagan's Pale Blue Dot and Contact and whatnot and can feel the beauty and all, but I just can't feel it to the extent I do when I listen to Tyson talking. No idea what it is.
[–]Egocentric 2 points3 points4 points 12 months ago
NDT expresses excitement about the Universe.
Carl Sagan expresses awe and wonder for the Universe.
Thing is, I think they both are equally amazing at conveying the beauty of our Universe, they just do it with different emotions.
[–]Antares42 2 points3 points4 points 12 months ago
So very true. I got goose bumps listening to the pale blue dot thing, and when I was at the Hayden Planetarium recently, NDT's introduction got tears in my eyes more than once.
[–]Hypersapien 0 points1 point2 points 12 months ago
Sagan was a poet. Tyson might be able to obtain what he needs, but for the moment he still doesn't have it.
That's what I think too. I'm hoping he'll find his muse with the Cosmos remakes.
Early in the Cosmos remakes.
Or else he decides to re-record the early stuff once he does.
[–]chernobyl169 4 points5 points6 points 12 months ago
closeenough.jpg
[–]Americium 2 points3 points4 points 12 months ago
That model of Jupiter and Saturn looks pretty badass.
[–]rockaholick37 2 points3 points4 points 12 months ago
Why because he is black? Racist!
[–]VaccusMonastica 2 points3 points4 points 12 months ago
Carl Sagan I owe a debt of gratitude for sparking my love and wonder of the Universe. He holds a special place in my mind. I will never forget him or his contributions of attempting to make science accessible to the masses. But he is gone. I hate that fact, but there it is.
Neil deGrasse Tyson will not be Carl Sagan because he's Neil deGrasse Tyson. He has his own mode, his own way of explaining, his own excitement about the stuff he is coveying. He is a hero in that he is taking up the reins of what Carl started and moving it into the 21st Century.
I have a deep respect for both of these men and what they are trying to acheive. There is no comparing them. The both are awesome individuals!
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 months ago
I don't know why but thinking about Carl Sagan being gone just now made me break down. sad ;(
[–]BLamp 1 point2 points3 points 12 months ago
*He's the hero America needs, but not the one it deserves right now...
[–]kadmylos 1 point2 points3 points 12 months ago
I'll take a live Neil DeGrase Tyson over a dead Carl Sagan any day.
[–]Slacktoo 1 point2 points3 points 12 months ago
You're right, let's go dig him up!
[–]photobesity 0 points1 point2 points 12 months ago
What does this mean?
[–]dustinechos 0 points1 point2 points 12 months ago
I think NDT and Brian Cox are two of the robots that make up the Voltron which is Carl Sagan.
[–]DsyelxicBob 0 points1 point2 points 12 months ago
Tyson 2012!
[–]Son_of_a_Bee_Sting 0 points1 point2 points 12 months ago
The "Dark" Knight.
[–]StevenViper 0 points1 point2 points 12 months ago
One day science will resurrect Carl Sagan....
A man can dream can he not?
[–]fuzzymechy 0 points1 point2 points 12 months ago
neil de grasse tyson is a black carl sagan though. which basically means he's as awesome, but just way cooler
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