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Dodging punches. Like a boss (i.imgur.com)

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[–]hphn 31 points32 points ago

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Ali was such a trash talker, but a complete badass that could back it up. One of my favorite examples of this is from The Rumble In The Jungle event when he fought Foreman.

From the wikipedia page: Ali continued to taunt him by saying "They told me you could punch, George!" and "They told me you could punch as hard as Joe Louis." According to Foreman, near the end of the fight, Foreman slammed Ali with a thundering body blow, and Ali whispered to him "Is that all you got, George?" to which Foreman thought "Yep...that's about it." After that, Ali began to dominate Foreman.

[–]lcynicl 52 points53 points ago

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Love him or hate him, you got to admit he was the best for a long long time.

[–]Ramphastid[S] 22 points23 points ago

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I don't even like boxing and I respect the hell out of him.

[–]MarkByers 10 points11 points ago

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I assume it's Muhammad Ali? I have heard he was the best boxer, but not being a boxing fan it's the first time I've actually seen him in a fight. Very impressive.

[–]lcynicl 9 points10 points ago

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Yes. I watched him when he was still Cassius Clay. Loudmouth SOB, but man he had the skills to back it up.

[–]hussard_de_la_mort 11 points12 points ago

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To quote (approximately) Sir Charles Barkley: "It ain't trash talk if it's true!"

[–]arch_bishop 3 points4 points ago

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I think the word you're looking for is paraphrase.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points ago

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so...are you like the vocabulary gestapo ?

[–]bringmemypants -4 points-3 points ago

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sounds like a good novelty account vocabGestapo

[–]Wolfgangers -2 points-1 points ago

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Your pants are waiting in the hall, sir. Which is where I suggest you quietly and presently proceed, to leave this place until some time a'cometh, when all that is holy shall rain down on ye with the full power of the gods! AND STAY, YOU SHALL. UNTILL THAT POINT IN TIME WHERE YOU ARE NO LONGER NEEDED. Before I reach for you, in the darkness, and cry! oh baby cry! But if you fail, and I see you cometh backeth here, I shall strike you down, if my name ain't Jimmy McMucpoppins.

[–]bringmemypants 0 points1 point ago

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HALLELUJAH

[–]bigthink -1 points0 points ago

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It's Wolfgangers.

[–]mhyquel 0 points1 point ago

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It ain't braggin if it's true

[–]vaginaface 6 points7 points ago

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His mama named him Clay, I'ma call him Clay.

[–]Cseal 0 points1 point ago

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PEEPING TOM

[–]Cooper1987 0 points1 point ago

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Uncle Tom.

[–]Cseal 0 points1 point ago

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yea but he thought he was being called peeping tom :P

[–]bdog2g2 0 points1 point ago

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FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. AND FUCK YOU

WHO'S NEXT?!

[–]Immynimmy 4 points5 points ago

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Who could possibly hate Muhammad Ali?

[–]thebheffect 21 points22 points ago

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Joe Frazier.

On Ali being picked to light the torch in the Olympics:

"I should have been picked. I wish Ali had fallen into [the flame]. If I had the chance, I'd have pushed him in."

[–]Immynimmy 0 points1 point ago

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Well in fairness, that was when they were bitter rivals. Plus Frazier was like that with every guy he faced.

[–]go_ninja_go 3 points4 points ago

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Ali lit the torch in 1996 - 21 years after their last match. I'd say Frazier is still a little bitter.

[–]Immynimmy 3 points4 points ago

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After years of remaining bitter, Frazier told Sports Illustrated in May 2009 that he no longer held hard feelings for Ali.

Per wiki.

[–]bombus_ruderatus 2 points3 points ago

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check out this awesome documentary about the rivalry, told mostly from the Frazier camp's perspective. It definitely had an impact on my opinion of Ali. I still have a lot of respect for him and there is no doubt he was an incredible athlete, but he really did take the piss with Frazier.

More than anything though it caused my respect for Joe Frazier to sky-rocket, as a fighter and for his sheer determination, especially that final fight in Manila. By the end of the doc you can definitely see that Joe still harbours some bitterness, though I hear he's chilled out a bit recently.

They were both giants of the sport, would love to see heavyweight boxing of that calibre in modern times. Epic doc though, check it out.

[–]theGreyjoy 14 points15 points ago

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Dude was utterly disrespectful. Listening to him berate some of his predecessors and contemporaries is difficult to watch. The levels of ignorance and disrespect is enough to make you feel embarrassed for him. Watch the HBO doc's on the Thrilla in Manilla and Joe Louis, then talk about what a great guy Muhammad Ali is.

[–]NinjaSupplyCompany 8 points9 points ago

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I loved it. Nothing wrong with some good trash talk. He knew what he was doing. He got them mad. Then come fight time they would come out and try to knock his head off. He would dodge and dance away and hug them until they did not have the strength to keep punching then Ali would knock them out.

All according to plan.

[–]dietotaku 1 point2 points ago

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you misspelled keikaku.

[–]TheWolfofMibu 2 points3 points ago

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|Ali according to plan.

FTFY

[–]kbergstr 1 point2 points ago

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Even better, watch Facing Ali. It's all of his former opponents talking about fighting him. There's respect, there's hatred, there's disgust. Very cool alternative takes on him and his legacy.

[–]Kit_L 5 points6 points ago

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many people. He was really cocky and loud, many people don't appreciate those qualities.

[–]HardToImpress 0 points1 point ago

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foreman

[–]Granite-M 1 point2 points ago

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you got to admit he was the best greatest for a long long time.

[–]Mackinstyle 0 points1 point ago

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Sorry I guess I'm naive to this. Why would anyone hate him? Is there some controversy?

[–]steamfolk 1 point2 points ago

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In case you didn't catch any of the other threads, Ali was a big trash talker. A lot of guys in the sport were bitter at him for a long time.

[–]Mackinstyle 1 point2 points ago

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I didn't. Thanks for going to the effort to let me know. I didn't know that about him. Interesting how things get omitted to those with only the most basic knowledge of a historical figure or event.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I heard there was another boxer around his time who had an even better record...

[–]acedebaser 0 points1 point ago

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does anyone hate him?

[–]Jdm101518 12 points13 points ago

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I have no boxing knowledge.

How hard is what Ali's doing? Does he know beforehand that those punches are coming, or does he react as he sees them?

What goes through Frazier's mind when he misses over and over? How tiring is that?

[–]MinervaDreaming 9 points10 points ago

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Does he know beforehand that those punches are coming, or does he react as he sees them?

A combination of both. An important part of training (in most competitive sports, really) is studying tape of your opponent. Something like this is often a combination of knowing particular patterns that your opponent likes to use and reacting on the fly.

[–]frickingphil 2 points3 points ago

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He's reacting as he sees them. From what i've heard, you learn to 'read' the other person's actions that lead up to them throwing a punch...with enough training it becomes a reflex and you don't have to think about it.

[–]Bretturd 0 points1 point ago

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There shouldn't be any actions leading to a punch, that's called telegraphing and will get you knocked out.

[–]aboganza 5 points6 points ago

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i imagine that's what happened at the end of the match.

[–]bdog2g2 5 points6 points ago

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Get to the point of fatigue.

You'll telegraph like a motherfucker.

[–]Bretturd 0 points1 point ago

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And accidentally drop your hands.

[–]secretvictory -1 points0 points ago

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hence... the... dodg... ing?

[–]LilDrumrGrl 6 points7 points ago

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It's supposed to just be impressive. And boxing has no script so no, he doesn't 'know' the punches are coming. As frickingphil said, he's just reacting and dodging. But what's impressive is how many he dodges at once while making it seem so effortless.

It's similar to a karate-master who sidesteps an attacker casually without fighting back because he can just evade and take no damage while frustrating the opponent. A large part of boxing seems to be making the other person miss, frustrating them, and then capitalizing on the mistakes they will make due to their frustration and inability to hit you.

[–]onrust 5 points6 points ago

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A large part of boxing seems to be making the other person miss, frustrating them, and then capitalizing on the mistakes they will make due to their frustration and inability to hit you.

Thought a large part of boxing is how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward

[–]LilDrumrGrl 4 points5 points ago

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True, that's another good technique for frustrating and lowering your opponent's morale. But not getting hit is great technique too. That's how Apollo Creed fought, since we're talking Rocky now. "Lightning fast and hard to catch", that's how he described himself.

[–]onrust 2 points3 points ago

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hha I firmly believe that not getting hit is the smartest tactic :)

[–]Floyd_Pinkerton 1 point2 points ago

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Creed's character in Rocky I was actually modeled after Ali, with Rocky playing the role of Chuck Wepner; wiki says many 'believe' it, but I saw a special on ESPN back in the day where they said Stallone's inspiration for the movie came directly from the Ali v Wepner fight

[–]LilDrumrGrl 1 point2 points ago

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I can completely believe that Apollo was modeled after Ali. The fighting style (dodging almost exactly like in this .gif) and his propensity to be loud, outspoken, and talk a lot of shit, they all fit Ali's character.

I didn't know about Rocky being modeled after Wepner though. Didn't even really know who Wepner was. I find boxing very interesting but I can't say I'm that knowledgeable about it. I know the big names and fights and movies, not much little known trivia. Thanks for the cool information.

[–]Pagan-za 1 point2 points ago

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As a martial artist, its easy to predict what is coming and get ready to move out the way. A persons stance shows exactly what they are going to do, and often you have quite a bit of warning before it happens.

As for the dodging around, in the gif, you'll see that its almost as if he lets the guy graze his chin everytime, but all he's really doing is moving just far enough back to be out of his reach. Again, once you have an idea of a guys range, its actually really easy to do.

As for Frazier, it is actually tiring when your blows dont land. Punches are aimed so that there is an apex to it, but when you miss, you hyper-extend, and after a while it starts to hurt your muscles, as well as wears them out quickly.

[–]Nocterro 1 point2 points ago

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As a person who has trained a little in Krav with people from a range of backgrounds, what stuck me most about boxers was their ability to read my strikes and react with an economy of movement. Conversely they were more difficult for me to read than most others.

Boxing's more focussed than many martial arts, so it makes sense that they get very good at reading movement / not telegraphing.

[–]tribalspoon 9 points10 points ago

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Prince Naseem has had several moments like this.

[–]sues2nd 7 points8 points ago

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This, is how you dodge punches like a boss.

The greatest defensive fighter in history, bar none...Pernell Whitaker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjTHLPmfBCQ

Your welcome...

[–]cuspidor 0 points1 point ago

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Shag me with a pineapple, that was as good as I've seen

[–]feureau 0 points1 point ago

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holds up a pineapple

Now turn around and bend over.

[–]neon9999 0 points1 point ago

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Not available in Germany because here the music rights holders hold the country at gunpoint... :(

[–]AwesoMeme 16 points17 points ago*

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Reminds me of Silva vs. Griffin

http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y364/bauer1987/SilvaVsGriffin.gif

[–]damendred 33 points34 points ago

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Click this is the link to him talking about this fight, and it's the funniest mma interview you'll ever hear.

Griffin is the realest guy in mma.

[–]brash 7 points8 points ago

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"It felt like some kid trying to wrestle with his Dad"

I kept it together until that point and lost it

[–]Cobalt-Spike 4 points5 points ago

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I don't even watch MMA and I lost it about halfway through that video.

[–]drethedog 3 points4 points ago

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The Brazilian Wandering Spider

[–]hussard_de_la_mort 7 points8 points ago

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The link isn't to an actual spider, people. It's just the guy's nickname.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points ago

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Also this It's not just the boxers that can dodge!

[–]brianbrianbrian 0 points1 point ago

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That had to rattle him a little.

"Son of a bitch even the little white ref dodging my throws..."

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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this one is good also

[–]SmileAfterReading 2 points3 points ago

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"I'm so fast that last night I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." -The Greatest-

[–]ilikefries 2 points3 points ago

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdPP0TmqKiU

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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TIL the connection of fights and cars

[–]newloaf 1 point2 points ago

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You don't have to like boxing to be interested in the documentary film When We Were Kings. One of the best non-fiction films I've ever seen.

[–]servohahn 1 point2 points ago

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Not even a perfect hitting machine can hit a perfect dodging machine.

[–]gary350 1 point2 points ago

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WHAT'S MY NAME?

[–]loudflash 1 point2 points ago

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He was a great boxer. But outside the ring I have little respect for the man.

[–]AntiHer0z 1 point2 points ago

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Reminds me of http://www.411mania.com/siteimages/anderson-silva_forrest-griffin_62412.gif

and

http://i43.tinypic.com/13z749y.jpg

[–]iammagicmike 3 points4 points ago

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POW Right in the kisser

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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POW Right in the kisser POW Right in the kisser POW Right in the kisser POW Right in the kisser POW Right in the kisser POW Right in the kisser

[–]eldy_ 0 points1 point ago

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He didn't dodge enough of 'em! RIMSHOT

[–]AgentOrange13 0 points1 point ago

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I've seen Anderson silva do that! Both are damn amazing

[–]ChrisMess 0 points1 point ago

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Not like a boss. Like the Greatest.

[–]n0wl 0 points1 point ago

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He should become a referee...

[–]MusicMagi 0 points1 point ago

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"Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee."

[–]XA36 0 points1 point ago

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That would have to be horrifying. I think I would just leave at that point.

[–]averagejosh 0 points1 point ago

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I read that as: "Dog punches. Like a boss."

It took me approximately four views of the .gif repeating for me to realize, there was never going to be any dog throwing punches. :(

[–]triobot 0 points1 point ago

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and he's like "COME AT ME BRO"

[–]Flashman_H 1 point2 points ago

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Ali is overrated. Sugar Ray was a better boxer and Joe Louis was arguably a better heavyweight. Dude had a helluva chin though.

I think he gets so much respect because he refused to go to Vietnam and was (kind of) involved in civil rights. Well even his own manager said he didn't go to Vietnam because he was a puppet of the Nation of Islam, and the way he taunted Frazier is beyond forgivable. If a white man had said it he would have been lynched.

If you watch the old documentary about one of his really late comebacks (can't remember the name, the one where he's at a camp) he literally looks and talks like he's drunk. He's already pretty severely brain damaged and still fighting. You can say the rope-a-dope worked pretty well against Foreman and Frazier but those guys can both still talk (well Frazier can talk as much as he ever could anyway.)

[–]Vincent__Vega 0 points1 point ago

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Landing punches like a boss.

[–]ketchy_shuby 0 points1 point ago

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Not like a boss, like a champ.

[–]judokalinker 0 points1 point ago

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He didn't dodge enough. I wouldnt want him pouring my coffee.

[–]ilikefries 0 points1 point ago

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He's the master for sure but to be honest we train like this in martial arts all the time. You don't have to move much, just understand the range and move a little. But he's the boss at it.

[–]fasterbait -2 points-1 points ago

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Too bad he couldn't dodge them all. His brain wouldn't have turned into mush.

[–]josemandiaz -2 points-1 points ago

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Is that Joe Frazier? I think it is. In the end Frazier ended up beating Clay. I don't know about this particular match, but overall Frazier was a much better boxer. He was a pretty solid dude too, according to most of the biographies.

[–]MikePriceWrites 8 points9 points ago

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Actually, Ali beat Frazier in the final two matches of their trilogy, so I'm not sure what you're basing that claim on.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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But what a fucking fight that last one was. Rocky IRL.

[–]AMcNair 2 points3 points ago

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Ali said he expected to die right there in the ring in the 15th round if Frazier's corner had let him fight. He was ready to fight to the death and seriously thought it would come to that.

[–]MikePriceWrites 0 points1 point ago

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That fight was brutal. I think it still stands today as the greatest fight of all time, I can watch it over and over again.

[–]roaddog 4 points5 points ago

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Down goes Frazier! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!!!

[–]MikePriceWrites 11 points12 points ago

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That call was from when Foreman knocked him out and took his title.

[–]roaddog 5 points6 points ago

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Which is why, apparently, I deserve to be downvoted.

[–]MikePriceWrites 3 points4 points ago

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Apparently. I didn't do it, so have an upvote to even you out.

[–]roaddog 0 points1 point ago

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You're the best.

[–]AMcNair 7 points8 points ago

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You don't know anything about boxing at all if you think Joe Frazier was a better boxer. Frazier gave Ali fits, but his career wasn't even close to Ali's.

Ali lost the prime of his career and seriously degraded his skills to make a principled stand against the war in Vietnam. I think that gives him the edge in the "solid dude" department over Frazier's Schlitz Malt Liquor ads.

I like Joe Frazier a lot, but the only reason anybody remembers him is because of Ali. They were on completely different levels.

Also, it's inappropriate to call him "Clay." He changed his name for a reason and that decision should be respected.

[–]MikePriceWrites 2 points3 points ago

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Great response to that ridiculous statement. I'm from Philly, and I love Joe Frazier, but Ali is truly my biggest hero and favorite cultural figure of all time. He had it all, the skills, the showmanship, and as you mentioned, the courage to sacrifice the prime of his career standing up for what he believed in.

[–]AMcNair 0 points1 point ago

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Ali is one of the few athletes/celebrities I will vigorously defend against those kinds of statements. I couldn't give a shit what people think about most athletes, even the ones I respect and admire. But I've always had a great deal of admiration for Ali.

[–]tama_chan -1 points0 points ago

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When you are the fucking BOSS, it comes easy. "The greatest fighter that has ever lived!"

[–]akbort -2 points-1 points ago

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You seem to be confused as to what the hivemind is up to these days. It's baus.

[–]DocDerry -2 points-1 points ago

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If he had dodged a few more he wouldn't be half retarded now.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points ago

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The only thing he was faster at was dodging the draft.

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