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This is what I think Mother Earth thinks about Humans. (i.imgur.com)

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[–]Chelchan 67 points68 points ago

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Original artist here: http://humon.deviantart.com/

[–]volandil 6 points7 points ago

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Ha, it's the guy with the Scandinavian comics, oh I love this!

[–]ChrisAshtear 14 points15 points ago

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you mean the lady?

[–]volandil 5 points6 points ago

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26/Female/Denmark - Yes, 'the lady' is what I really meant. Thanks :)

[–]ShellCompany 49 points50 points ago

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'The Planet is Fine' by George Carlin addresses this pretty nicely.

[–]AbadH 12 points13 points ago*

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Funny, I thought of Ian Malcom from the Jurassic Park book(Jeff Goldblum's character) who discusses this well too. He talks how the earth has survived the extinction of dinosaurs and other animals. Then he goes on to say that since humans are basically animals, the Earth will continue to live on without our existence.

I think he summarizes it best when he says "Life finds a way".

[–]foresthill 17 points18 points ago

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Don't forget he is a comedian not an ecologist. Human activity could easily wipe out the vast majority of natural ecosystems. To say "save the whales" basically means "don't kill all the whales." I wouldn't call that a terrible idea.

[–]DefiantDragon 10 points11 points ago

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But if we kill all the whales then we can have the mega jellyfish and Octopi and Squid -- you know, the ones that will eventually make their way onto land and enslave us in the name of Lord Cthulhu?

Ahh yes, a glorious day indeed.

[–]JavaLSU 2 points3 points ago

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You're still just talking about preserving the ecosystem. "The Planet is Fine", still holds true.

Keep in mind that whatever killed the dinosaurs (probably a meteor) did much more damage that we'll ever do. Not only did the planet survive, but it thrived into the current ecosystem that you're trying to protect.

Don't get me wrong, I recycle and I'm all eco friendly, but I don't have any delusions that I'm trying to save the planet. I'm just preserving the conditions for humans to survive.

After all the humans (and whales) die off. The planet will still be here, and going strong.

[–]foresthill 0 points1 point ago

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In George Carlin's 'The Planet is Fine" rant he mocks people who say "save the whales". He also says that most species that ever existed are already extinct which leads him to think that we shouldn't care about those that still exist today. I would only keep in mind your third statement if I knew it to be true, which I don't. Given that an impact event could wipe out most life on Earth, you leave out the most important thing...the dust settles, and life is allowed to crawl back in. Humanity is much different than that. Humanity takes land for the long term. We change landscapes permanently and maintain them to stay that way. I don't care about recycling as much as I care about leaving pristine ecosystems the way that they are. That way when humans are sitting on this rock for the thousands, if not millions, of years to come they may actually enjoy the garden of eden that they started with. If all the iPhones in the world disappeared we'd be able to make more, but we can't make a Javan Rhinoceros or an Amur Leopard.

[–]ItsOnlyNatural 2 points3 points ago

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It would be no worse then the other mass extinctions the planet has gone through.

[–]TheEllimist 7 points8 points ago

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I can't pinpoint it, but there's something very dubious to me about this attitude. "Pillage and rape the Earth, it'll manage fine when we're gone"? There's something to be said for causing the least harm possible, no?

[–]ItsOnlyNatural 4 points5 points ago

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It's because we're so psychologically entwined with the earth we can't imagine destroying ourselves and perhaps all the forests and every living thing dwelling on the surface and life still existing on the ocean floor.

If we intend to continue living here in anything close to a nice existence we can't "pillage and rape the earth", but from the earth's perspective so long as we aren't taking matter off the planet we aren't doing anything worse then stuff that has already happened in it's history. The earth and life will get along fine without us no matter what we do. It just means we'll kill off most of what we think of as life and possibly ourselves.

[–]TheEllimist 3 points4 points ago

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It's because we're so psychologically entwined with the earth we can't imagine destroying ourselves and perhaps all the forests and every living thing dwelling on the surface and life still existing on the ocean floor.

I mean, I don't even so much care about the "ourselves" part, I just can't stomach the idea of needlessly destroying other living things when we have the ability to prevent it. I know that attitude is usually downvoted to hell when it comes from people like vegans, but the "destroy shit now, it'll fix itself later" attitude really perturbs me.

[–]Folroldeolrol 3 points4 points ago

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You're still thinking too small and too human centric.

You believe that we're actually capable of saving or destroying the planet, we could create wholesale ecological change and kill nearly every last living thing on this planet, and 100,000 years from now it will likely be thriving with brand new life. It may not be life the way 'we' think of it as life, that might take a few billion years and could run out the clock (our sun) before it happens.

But that doesn't somehow make the world revolve around what 'we' consider to be a healthy planet. We just think in terms that are too tiny and linear, if a comet were to strike this planet 20 years from now, plunge us into an ice age, freeze the oceans into a sheet of glass and drop the temperature of the world to -100 degrees for a few hundred years. We're dead and there's fuck all we could do about it.

And 500 years later when it thaws out, the after-party will begin and the world will go back to the drawing board on the whole concept of "life on earth".

[–]foresthill 0 points1 point ago

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It would be nice if we lived on a planet with whales breaching and birds singing, not a vast grey field of concrete in all directions. Something like, if we all moved into a big house together and people started cutting down the landscaping for a big camp fire. Some of us will say "Hey, in the morning this place is gonna look ugly and uninteresting. Maybe you should save a good chunk of that landscaping for when we're having our picnic tomorrow."

Supporting evidence: http://imgur.com/a/FUBuT

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points ago

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No, he's not. He's presenting a different point than you are. Stop trying to be right and try and find mutual understanding.

[–]Folroldeolrol 4 points5 points ago*

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Yes Sir, right away Sir, please sign this thought-crime waiver for me please Sir, otherwise they'll give me twenty extra minutes in the pain-machine Sir.

Now, with that out of the way. I don't wholly disagree with him, its simply that the idea that we somehow "know what's best for the planet" is as equally egotistical as the idea that we can just do whatever the hell we want and let the planet figure it out later.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points ago

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Thought crime jokes from the guy telling the other bloke not to think so human?

I don't think he's suggesting we know what's best for the planet. Re-reading his posts I think I found two points -

  1. We shouldn't write off the effects of human population just because the planet has endured worse
  2. He's not okay with the large scale loss of life we are causing. This is understandable. The Louvre burning down would be a huge loss. The fact that human artists would continue to paint wonderful masterpieces does not diminish that loss.

[–]labrysinthe[!] 1 point2 points ago

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It is disturbing, but that's built into the human moral sense as well as our own self-interest. There is a lot of destruction in nature, which doesn't indulge itself in regret or outrage, but simply goes on. Species evolve, species die out. Natural disasters wipe out flora and fauna. Their death nourishes the next thing. As humans, we find this system somewhat brutal, and we've gotten better and better at preserving ourselves in the face of nature. Simultaneously, our technologies have developed into terrifying new forces just as unstoppable as nature. We may not even have the ability at this point to rein them in, clean our act up, and save ourselves. I hope we do, but Nature will go right on without regrets if we don't.

[–]CutterJohn 1 point2 points ago

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Eh. Society would suffer from environmental cataclysm, but humans would keep on trucking. The brain, the language skills, the tool use, all are evolutionary grand slams. We adapted to nearly every ecosystem on the planet with nothing but wood, stones, and skins.

It'd take something seriously major, a veritable planetary reset button, to wipe the human animal off the face of the earth.

[–]OrganicCat 1 point2 points ago

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Well, as long as we don't kill off all life "nature" will continue, in my definition of nature as an ecosystem consisting of living things. Humans will eventually have the power to do just that. Right now, in most scenarios, even "on purpose" ones, we'll only kill off 80-90% of life which isn't nearly enough to cause a shutdown.

[–]Zombie_Death_Vortex 1 point2 points ago

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For us it might be.

[–]xmnstr 1 point2 points ago

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But after a while there will be new ones. Life will continue, but maybe in a different direction. We won't matter in the long run.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points ago

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I'm pretty sure the guy who drew this comic is "a guy who draws webcomics not an ecologist," so at the risk of being overly generous I'd say it evens out. Then again, I'd value George Carlin's opinion over some guy who just posts shit to deviantart, any day of the week.

[–]anikas88 -3 points-2 points ago

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"ecosystems" is a flawed term

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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care to elaborate?

[–]beatsdropheavy 4 points5 points ago

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link:george carlin - saving the planet

[–]TimW 1 point2 points ago

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That's exactly what I thought of when I read this. It sums up what he said very well. I like the bit he does about plastic. How we think a plastic bottle is going to destroy nature. Earthquakes, tsunamis, tornadoes, ice ages, techtonic plate shifts no problem, but a little plastic and the whole system shuts down. How do we know that the only reason nature let us develop wasn't so that we could make plastic. Nature couldn't figure out how to make plastic and needed us.

[–]karth -1 points0 points ago

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Guys like him dont figure out what he uses to do his cute little comedy. He just likes to talk and make some money, nothing wrong with that. But this isn't wisdom, just some very obvious statements that any enterprising freshman in college knows.

[–]SamuraiStormtrooper 44 points45 points ago

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Do you have a link to the original Humon comic?

[–]RevDrPhysics 59 points60 points ago

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Here it is: http://humon.deviantart.com/gallery/?q=gaia#/d3fh24i

[–]shigal777 5 points6 points ago

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disco ball

I mean Thanks :)

[–]assman1229[!] 5 points6 points ago

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Thanks >:(

[–]audleylibrary 3 points4 points ago*

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How do we get this guy to stop thanking you?

[–]RevDrPhysics 1 point2 points ago

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Good question. Perhaps some manner of rope-and-pulley mechanism? Otherwise I've got nothing.

[–]turtles_and_frogs 2 points3 points ago

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Thanks. :|

[–]FruityPeebils 1 point2 points ago

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Thanks _

[–]Carthonas[S] -1 points0 points ago

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Thanks :)

[–]lunargecko 0 points1 point ago

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Thanks!

[–]erichzann 9 points10 points ago

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Came in to make sure Humon got her recognition. Good on you for pointing it out.

[–]Killercds 4 points5 points ago

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Ctrl-F'd Humon to see if credit was given.

Bravo Good Sir.

[–]Carthonas[S] -2 points-1 points ago

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Thanks for citing the true source for me - I just Stumbled Upon it and thought it would be a cool link. It's a good thing the artist is getting credit for his/her IP.

[–]zgh5002 6 points7 points ago

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Reminds me of Jurassic Park (the book). Malcolm laughs when someone says humanity is destroying the world, and responds with something similar.

[–]cockwaffle 25 points26 points ago

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...and yet the artist has to make the earth a person.

Even if human civilization crashes and burns that only means a bunch of dead people. A small population of cancer-ridden sad sops would survive and repopulate after anything short of a gamma ray burst... but without the knowledge of their ancestors, and would certainly repeat the same mistakes.

I really hate to say this but there is a way that human beings are special. Not for any transcendental and metaphysical and essential and irreplaceable reason, but for a circumstantial reason. A reason a computer could do a million times better. We're an accident in representational consciousness that can transcend the boundaries of the infinite shortsightedness of nature, however poorly and however infrequently, and achieve unthinkable energy density compared with those other innumerable taxons of life on earth.

But we aren't going to go do any of those things if we draw the earth as a big indifferent person and refuse to acknowledge that the forces we deal with must first come under our understanding before our control.

[–]Kravvek 1 point2 points ago

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That's entirely transcendental and metaphysical.

[–]cockwaffle -1 points0 points ago

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Only the values part of it. Once we reduce the meaning of symbols to the shapes of symbols the rest is a computer problem.

[–]Kravvek 0 points1 point ago

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human beings are special. Not for any transcendental and metaphysical and essential and irreplaceable reason

[–]imasupervillain 0 points1 point ago

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but for a circumstantial reason.

He's just saying they can do something different. If it were super-intelligent squids or lizard people it would be the same thing. There's nothing "magic" about humans is the point.

[–]OrganicCat 1 point2 points ago

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If the avatar was speaking to a deer, it would perhaps take the form of a deer. Understanding and interacting with nature is defined by the one interacting with it. If a human is doing it, it's probably going to take the comforting form of a human. A rabbit, a rabbit, and so on.

[–]hickory-smoked[!] 6 points7 points ago

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Even if human civilization crashes and burns that only means a bunch of dead people. A small population of cancer-ridden sad sops would survive and repopulate after anything short of a gamma ray burst... but without the knowledge of their ancestors, and would certainly repeat the same mistakes.

Not many mistakes, though.

We've used up all the easily extractable oil. If this civilization collapses, no future generations will have the energy available to reach the hard stuff, or build nuke plants, or use any power source more advanced than burning wood and (for a while at least) coal. Even if humanity survives another hundred thousand years, there will never be another Industrial Age, and our descendants will never travel to the stars.

[–]notanotherpyr0 8 points9 points ago

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You underestimate humanity. So that was our path of least resistance, firstly the safest place to be in a doomsday event that wont end everything immediately is probably in a nuclear powered ship to begin with, containing people who already know the basics of how to get a nuclear reactor started. Granted the safest place in the world for a doomsday event would be a nuclear submarine where there are no women as of now(in the US at least, don't know about Russia, but I don't think China allows women on submarines either and I know the UK doesn't. Nobody else has nuclear submarines to my knowledge) making re-population difficult but if any other population survives with women humanity will have a shortcut back to nuclear power. Bonus points for the fact that submariners don't have male children very often leading to a faster rebound for the species.

[–]ryan1234567890 0 points1 point ago

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Don't ask don't tell. Do get on the submarine.

[–]Jay_Zaq 1 point2 points ago

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except if we were wiped out completely by the time something evolved enough to be smart enough to use it it would have replenished itself

[–]Folroldeolrol 0 points1 point ago

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How exactly do you think the 'easily extractable oil' got there in the first place, the oil fairy?

[–]hickory-smoked[!] 0 points1 point ago

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No, it comes from porous rocks formed from accumulated organic material over geological time scales.

How does that change anything I said? You think humanity can afford to twiddle it's thumbs for 20 million years until the Amazon forest is a layer of sweet crude under some new ocean?

[–]Tonkarz 0 points1 point ago

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Is this the answer to the Fermi paradox?

[–]DrollestMoloch 0 points1 point ago

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No. There is no simple, singular answer to the Fermi paradox.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago*

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I don't think nature 'loses out' if there is nothing that exists to fix its short sighted mistakes. It's not a sentient entity, it's just an environment that creates and sustains life. 'It' has no moral stake in whether or not 'it' even continues to exist.

The comic is just pointing out a misconception: it's pointing out that by damaging the environment it is not nature that people are hurting but themselves. The author's right too. It is literally impossible to make nature 'lose' in this relationship, because nature is not capable of giving a shit about anything.

[–]kivios 2 points3 points ago

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Okease, people of Reddit... Stop reposting this thing!

[–]Jonno_FTW 0 points1 point ago

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This must be the 5 time in the past few months since the comic was made..

[–]ParannoyeDreamer 5 points6 points ago

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Now I can't help but picture Mother Earth smoking some weed and having this happy expression while humans slowly perish.

[–]Sabotage101 -3 points-2 points ago

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Billions of years passed and millions of stars died so that we could live to think about them. Mother Earth is a worthless cunt compared to how important we are to the universe.

[–]zane17 0 points1 point ago

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The same things happened for all other life on Earth. We aren't more important than any other life in that sense.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points ago

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George Carlin said it first.

"The Earth is not going anywhere. We are."

[–]avocadoadvocate 2 points3 points ago

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Pack your shit folks

[–]Searth -1 points0 points ago

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Don't you guys think when we talk about living nature, or The Earth we're just talking about all lifeforms and that's a bit of a strange approach to conservation ethics?

'The earth isn't going anywhere as long as there are a few algae in the ocean!' 'And the earth will recover from the current wave of extinction in ten million years!' 'Everything is a natural process!'

These kind of statements are true but I think they're not answering the right question. I think the right kind of question is whether we're fine with species disappearing at 1.000 times the normal rate, or whether those orangutans and their burning forests really don't matter. On a cosmic scale of things ten million years is nothing but that is ten million years of ecological poverty because of the events of a few hundred years. And the underlying question is whether we value diversity and biomass of lifeforms. I know I do, but maybe I'm the only hippie in town here.

[–]WendyLRogers2 1 point2 points ago

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Some handle it better than others. Captain Planet Rampage. (flash)

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/Captain+Planet+%3A+Rampage/

[–]Diego_Poop 1 point2 points ago

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That hug looks so comfy! I want one!

[–]QuotesPlato 1 point2 points ago

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"No human thing is of serious importance." — Plato

[–]eluisquetzalli 1 point2 points ago

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On one hand, my personal moral compass tells me to care about preserving what we can of nature's complex and perfectly balanced systems... On the other hand, I think that maybe my human ego-centrism is acting up again. I just get a bad taste in my mouth when people say they don't care about the environment. And I know perhaps we don't actually matter in the grand scheme of things, but I can't help but think that we should be living in closer harmony with nature. Maybe just... please at least pretend you care for our children and grandchildren?

[–]Shuttlecock 1 point2 points ago

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Keep in mind that for most of recorded history humans were at "natures" mercy and struggled to survive harsh winters, droughts, natural disasters, plagues, bear attacks, etc. I like to think of the 20th century as humans turning the tables and giving nature the ass fucking it deserves.

[–]schzo 1 point2 points ago

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If nature is a person now she has some stuff to answer for as well ಠ_ಠ

[–]hakkzpets[!] 1 point2 points ago

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I hope mankind dies with me. If I can't have flying cars, space travel and become a cyborg, nobody should have that.

[–]danthemango 1 point2 points ago

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it's natures checks and balance. I guess karma is a word for it

[–]defconzero 3 points4 points ago

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This is what I think Mother Earth thinks about humans: Oh that's right, I don't think that Earth is sentient.

[–]Backupusername 1 point2 points ago*

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I know it's a repost, but I approve so heavily of the message, that I want as many people to see it as possible.

Also, the artist is the same (EDIT) girl who does Scandanavia and the World, a more light-hearted series following the lives of anthropomorphized countries. Very good read.

[–]erichzann 2 points3 points ago

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The artist is the same girl

FTFY

[–]Backupusername 1 point2 points ago

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My bad. FTFM. Thanks.

[–]erichzann 1 point2 points ago

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no worries

[–]ecclesiastes1-9 0 points1 point ago

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What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

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    [–]keeferc 4 points5 points ago

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    It always freaks me out to see self-hatred like this. It may be true but it isn't very productive. Or healthy.

    [–]MigratedCoconut 6 points7 points ago

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    I think the point of this isnt "Oh no woe is me I'm nothing." But more, I'm only fucking myself over, maybe I should change this."

    [–]keeferc 1 point2 points ago

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    Yeah, that and "I'm completely self-centered and my entire species won't be missed once it's extinct."

    It's just a personal preference for me. It's good have the ability to criticize ourselves, our cultures, our countries, our religions and even our human nature. But when it turns from criticism into this, I find it counterproductive, hateful and unnecessary. And frankly, it's odd.

    [–]TheBestStew 0 points1 point ago

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    My biggest problem with it ( aside from it being a repost. ), is that it puts forward the idea that humans can't substantially fuck up the planet and possibly all life, when in reality, yeah we probably could.

    [–]GalacticNexus 0 points1 point ago

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    No, we really couldn't. Even if we managed to destroy almost every tree on the planet then more something else would evolve to fill that niche. Especially since things that could spell doom for us would be fantastic for other forms of life.

    Say we increase the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere to levels poisonous to humans, then that would cause a massive boom in plant life, which, through the millennia, would bring it back down again. I mean, think back to even a time as recent as the Jurassic; carbon dioxide levels were way higher than they are now and life was absolutely fine in it's tropical climate.

    [–]blackironskillet 5 points6 points ago

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    Help us Al Gore...you're our only hope...lol

    [–]ChinamenChen 5 points6 points ago

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    No one else can save us from...ManBearPig.

    [–]LuckymanV2 1 point2 points ago

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    Cerealy?

    [–]dangersandwich 1 point2 points ago

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    Downvote for 9GAG. It's a piece of shit website that auto-watermarks every image uploaded to it.

    [–]Arxl 1 point2 points ago

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    My Field Bio teacher told us that we won't survive nature, nature will survive us. Not sure if he just ripped it off someone but I quote it to this day.

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    Your Field Bio teacher is about as clever as any precocious high-schooler that's managed to use that rhetorical trick.

    [–]heyitslep 1 point2 points ago

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    Is it wrong my knee-jerk reaction to this was, "Fuck you"?

    [–]lobsterknuckles 1 point2 points ago

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    This is what I Think Mother Earth thinks about humans

    [–]Repost_Enforcement 1 point2 points ago

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    STOP RIGHT THERE! On behalf of the Reddit Community, the Repost Enforcement Agency has taken hold of your account, seized your assets, and notified the FBI of your IP address. You will be contacted by an agent in the next 2-6 hours.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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    Bam, right on. So much emphasis is placed on sustainability, but everyone assumes that we're somehow neccessary for nature to survive as well. We're fucked as a species, but I long ago stopped caring.

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    [–]darkenspirit 13 points14 points ago

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    Whats a million years to the earth?

    So what if the earth takes something so cataclysmic that it wipes humans out? You dont think it will evolve from it still? Barring the earth exploding of course ;)

    [–]andrewd416 6 points7 points ago

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    Seriously. There have been 5 mass extinctions and life has diversified and rebounded every single time. The current mass extinction (I believe we are currently in a mass extinction, though there is debate about it) may be a bad one, maybe even worse than the end-Permian, but life will diversify and flourish once more. It's the natural cycle of the planet.

    [–]Aceofspades25 1 point2 points ago

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    Yes, but who's to say that intelligence will evolve again? We might currently have something really special, with our ability to comprehend the universe and its workings.

    If humanity was lost. It could be a tragedy. We might be the only hope that the universe ever has of coming to understand itself.

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    [–]baggier 0 points1 point ago

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    I for one welcome our new cockroach overlords in a million years time

    [–]ceejiesqueejie 1 point2 points ago

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    but I long ago stopped caring.

    You are contributing to the problem.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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    Hey, I do what I can, but I'm not going to lose sleep over things which are beyond my control. I don't want to have a heart attack at age 30 from all that stress. So how am I contributing to the problem exactly?

    [–]superaltaccount -3 points-2 points ago

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    You are trying to delay the inevitable.

    [–]ceejiesqueejie 0 points1 point ago

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    The longer we delay, the longer our children get to live on the planet we've left them.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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    Thing is, if we're only hurting ourselves then why is she being so incredibly passive-aggressive towards us? I feel like the author wants his cake and eat it too.

    Either we're only hurting ourselves, and are too selfish to understand that, or the earth is bitchily waiting for us to die. Pick 1.

    [–]Zawmbee 1 point2 points ago

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    Unfortunately, it's true.

    [–][deleted] -5 points-4 points ago

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    no its not

    [–]leaptheman 6 points7 points ago*

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    Why do you believe it's not true?

    Edit: Why the fuck am I being downvoted for asking Mavent to explain their opinion???

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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    because humanity is nothing if not clever, look what we did without even trying, what do you think we could if we decided to try? If the species depended on it we could sure as shit come up with something.

    [–]hickory-smoked[!] 0 points1 point ago

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    Yeeeah... I'm sure the second-to-last generation of Easter Islanders were equally confident.

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    Actually, all generations of Easter Islanders were obscenely poor by todays standard and probably spent most of their lives in a hand to mouth subsistence state.

    It was therefore very unlikely that any of them even had the time to think about questions like these. your point also of course ignores millennia of scientific and industrial advances since then.

    We shall overcome, brother. I have the entire arc of western civilization on my side, you have a handful of Malthusian doomsayers.

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    [–]hickory-smoked[!] 3 points4 points ago

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    Environments collapse, civilizations fall. It happens.

    [–]patrick888 -1 points0 points ago

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    If we decided to try. That is a big if. There is a huge number of people who don't think we need to try, which is the problem.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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    When it actually affects people, they'll try...so far its no big shakes.

    [–]bang_Noir 1 point2 points ago

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    I would also like to know.

    [–][deleted] -1 points0 points ago

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    I downvoted you for your hysterical, whiny edit. I don't even know, or care what you two faggots are trying to talk about.

    [–]exzyle2k 1 point2 points ago

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    Why is some dude going to Gaia naked? I mean, he's apologizing for fucking nature while trying to fuck nature?

    Seems a bit hypocritical, eh?

    [–]brulez 0 points1 point ago

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    Well if he's really good in bed it might be worth a try.

    [–]iongantas 0 points1 point ago

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    Thank you, I was looking all over the internet for this cartoon the other week.

    [–]hickory-smoked[!] 0 points1 point ago

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    I kinda feel like she needs a cockroach head in the last panel.

    [–]notanotherpyr0 0 points1 point ago

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    Oh yeah well we are leaving you... for Gliese 581.

    [–]choonage 0 points1 point ago

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    nailed it...

    [–]StochasticOoze 0 points1 point ago

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    Mother Earth is kind of a bitch.

    [–]Debraz13 0 points1 point ago

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    Upvoted for the use of the term "Gaia"

    [–]illz569 0 points1 point ago

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    Reminds me of this. Kind of sobering when you think about it.

    [–]jdeliverer 0 points1 point ago

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    The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are fucked.

    [–]Magikarp 0 points1 point ago

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    Nuke the entire planet and blow the atmosphere away. FUCK YOU NATURE. ;)

    [–]coppersink 0 points1 point ago

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    Have we not passed a point of complete collapse? I don't believe there is anything that could ever really wipe us all out. We'll just adapt as well.

    [–]upsidedn 0 points1 point ago

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    It's not just us we're fucking. The extinction rate for species threatened by human activities far exceeds the 'normal' rate of extinction, with the exception of a couple other such periods in our earth's history.

    [–]xzzz 0 points1 point ago

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    Challenge accepted

    [–]ThereOnceWasAMan 0 points1 point ago

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    As I said the last time this was posted, this representation is disingenuous. We aren't just fucking ourselves over. Yes, the physical planet itself might still exist after we are done with it. Hell, we probably won't even successfully destroy all life. But we still have the capacity to do massive amounts of damage, as we already have done. It's all well and good to say "Nature will go on!" but it's still the case that we have singlehandedly ended entire species. No member of those species will ever exist again. That's no small thing.

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    I 100% disagree. In fact, that is the exact mentality described within the comic.

    Yeah, we've killed species, leeched resources, and left a mark; but literally all of that will heal over time (assuming our absence). New species will evolve. Non-renewable resources will renew. Our mark will erode. We could detonate a nuke on every single square inch of the planet, kill every single human, and I would gander that the world will be green again in a million years. Nothing we can do to the planet will have a lasting impact. That's evolution for you.

    You make an interesting point with the "we've killed entire species". Do you really think humanity is the only species that has killed off another species single-handedly? There are holocausts everyday on the microbial level, battles for survival and sustenance. The meteor that ended the dinosaurs destroyed a horrendous number of animals and plants. It's self-centered and an underestimate to think that we're the only species capable of genocide; we just do it for reasons other than survival, that's all.

    Specific species will fail to exist in the future due to us. But nature is more than one species; it is everything, including us. And nature will always exist. It has dealt with genocide and extinction billions of times before, and it exists now.

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    Hmm...very well said. I think the issue I was trying to bring to light is that the mentality described in the comic could be just as readily used to rationalize further reckless abandon on our part. While you may feel that our eradication of entire species isn't necessarily so terrible in the long run, I assume you agree that it is still something to be avoided if possible. If everyone starts believing that nothing we do will have any consequence on the planet, then that gives us the leeway to do whatever we want -- something that isn't desirable.

    Also, I think it is shortsighted to think that there is nothing we can do that will have truly terrible long term effects. I agree -- nuking the entire planet would probably only be a temporary hinderance on life. But sometimes it's the little, seemingly inconsequential things that can do the most damage. For the most part, nature is a self balancing system ; a deviation from the norm tends to result in a force that pulls back towards that norm. But sometimes even in such systems, feedback loops occur (permafrost, for example, or ocean acidification). It can be dangerous to think that we will never be capable of tapping into of these feedback loops, or of creating one of our own.

    edit: timely and relevant -- http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-07-history-species-scientists.html

    [–]mybrainhurts 0 points1 point ago

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    "The planet is not in jeopardy. We are in jeopardy. We haven't got the power to destroy the planet - or to save it. But we might have the power to save ourselves." Dr. Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park

    [–]mheyk 0 points1 point ago

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    ha ha ha Julia Gillard

    [–]Saint-Peer 0 points1 point ago

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    What a vicious cycle.

    And by that, I mean taking it from a website called 9gag, which takes content from Reddit, which takes content from everywhere else. And then repost back on Reddit, for it to be taken back to derivatives such as 9gag.

    [–]MoarVespenegas 0 points1 point ago

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    Somehow you'd think a freak accident of a deity that exists in a 15km thick band on a hunk of rock hurtling through the uncaring vastness of space wouldn't be so smug.

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    Doesn't take into account that we'll be living a Firefly-like existence before long (NASA or not).

    Don't ruin this for me.

    [–]columbine 0 points1 point ago

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    GREAT ART AND A DEEP MESSAGE... WOW, IM JUST FEELING LIKE WOW LOOKING AT THAT!!! HUMANS FTL!!!!!!!

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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    Hey that's not preachy at all!

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    [–]LordLunchington 0 points1 point ago

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    we arent the first species to wipe another out.

    Everything dies.

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    [–]LordLunchington 1 point2 points ago

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    depends on who is doing it, a pride lion wiping out a species of gazelle (rhetorical of course) would be deemed "natural" and they nor us would think nothing of it.

    The only reason humans wiping out a species is deemed wrong is we as humans have empathy for other species (sometimes). While the lion thinks of it as nothing but food or fun.

    Oh and we can create organizations about it, go on reddit and bitch about it and devote our lives to chasing the last horde of pygmy chickenfucker's around till they die.

    Do we do it with malice? Sometimes. Do we do it haphazardly? Sure. Do we use pretty machines and chemicals to do it? Why not. So do animals in their own ways. We cant shoots chemical poisons out of our faces like some animals can, we use tools. Animals and inscects alike have war, violence and genocide. It is not exclusive to humans.

    Dont get me wrong I don't like it but to think we are this huge blight wiping out everything in our paths is completely and 100% ludacris.

    [–]mrsquare 0 points1 point ago

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    We're still being pretty selfish; as well as fucking over ourselves we're also going to kill most of the animals that share the climates we live in. Way to go humans. God, you're such a bunch of dicks.

    [–]eeaspossibl 0 points1 point ago

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    Before I clicked on the comic, I said: "Please don't have casual swearing in it?". Why does every comic these days gave to have swearing? Not to sound like a old prude or anything, but am I the only one whose sick of it? What does it add to the humor or message of the work?

    [–]robotpiranna 0 points1 point ago

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    I said: "Please don't have casual swearing in it?"

    Hahah, oh wow.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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    way to encourage the republicans

    [–]north_of_sanity 0 points1 point ago

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    REPOST!

    [–]FriedBacon86 0 points1 point ago

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    Venus is doin' aiight.

    [–]Voduar 0 points1 point ago

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    All these moments will

    be lost in time like tears in

    the rain. Time to die.

    [–]wrc-wolf 0 points1 point ago

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    RE: RE: RE:

    [–]Mr_vonglas 0 points1 point ago

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    Sums up my views perfectly. Build a road and the roots of a tree will grow through it.

    [–]i-hate-digg 0 points1 point ago

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    Life didn't survive for 4 billion years by being a pussy.

    That being said, the most important thing that we're losing is biodiversity. Once a species is gone it's never coming back.

    [–]LordLunchington 0 points1 point ago

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94uJtUDlpZo

    he said it better

    [–]HateNotGriefHot 0 points1 point ago

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    Y know what? I guess this is going to happen:

    everyone on earth died and there are a few VIP's that have control to all the worker nukes

    Vice-leader: "SIR."

    Leader: "What-the-fuck-is-it?"

    Vice-leader: "Almost everyone on the Earth is dead!"

    Leader: "... IF WE CAN'T LIVE NOONE WILL AFTER US!"

    Vice-leader and Leader: "LAUNCH...EVERYTHING!"

    [–]cycophuk 0 points1 point ago

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    The artwork almost reminds me of Phil Foglio. I say almost because if it was Phil, they would be fucking while having that conversation.

    [–]Leroytankin 0 points1 point ago

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    Sorry, but humans are the most resourceful and adaptable species on Earth. Sure, societies might collapse and the population will be decimated, but I seriously doubt we will be going totally extinct any time soon.

    [–]TheWhiteCat 0 points1 point ago

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    Re-post from a month ago - SERIOUSLY?!?

    [–]PalmettoBling 0 points1 point ago

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    http://www.teachingchildrenphilosophy.org/w/images/The_giving_tree_img2.jpg

    [–]Dunscaith 0 points1 point ago

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    Yup, this comic pretty much explains my feelings on humanity's relationship with the environment.

    [–]deathntaxes84 0 points1 point ago

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    One upvote just isn't enough!

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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    Yeah, that's not happening...humans aren't going to die out because of "climate change"...we're talking tenths of a degree over decades.

    Man vs. Nature: The Road to Victory

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    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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    check out data

    http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt

    Global climate trend since Nov. 16, 1978: +0.14 C per decade.

    IF we're talking about global changes, picking one subset of the globe that supports our view is cherry picking and disingenuous

    [–]hickory-smoked[!] -1 points0 points ago

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    And positive-feedback-loops don't enter anywhere in your calculations?

    [–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago

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    First, they're not my calculations, nor calculations at all, but observed data.

    Second, my understanding is that htere's not a lot of evidence of acceleration to date. and Its not as if the industrial revolution started in 1978.

    Sure It's possible, and some might say likely, but its also possible that we manage a workable fusion reactor or some other cleaner energy source and worrying about carbon emissions becomes as quaint as worrying about running out of bird guano from the south pacific as a source of fertilizer for Europe.

    [–]TitusUMMS 1 point2 points ago

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    TIL people believe 'mother earth' thinks.

    [–]snoharm 0 points1 point ago

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    No it's not, it's what the author thinks. Could you credit them, by the way?

    [–]sincewedidthedo 0 points1 point ago

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    Ooh, EDGY hippie comics.

    BRB, heading to the beach to throw some plastic six-pack rings in the water.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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    Made me chuckle.

    [–]MysteryLie 0 points1 point ago

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    "Heaven and Earth are impartial; They see the ten thousand things as straw dogs." - Lao Tsu

    [–]Tulki -3 points-2 points ago

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    This is so true.

    By today, there are actually mushrooms growing around the Chernobyl meltdown site. Those mushrooms feed on radiation, cleansing the area and growing themselves. It doesn't matter what humans do because earth will simply adapt.

    [–]slurpme 14 points15 points ago

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    cleansing the area

    I think you should look up how radiation actually works...

    [–]ClownsAteMyBaby 0 points1 point ago

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    Well sure we'll just fuck everything up so it'll have to adapt and live around the mess we create. No sweat, life is only going to be different forever like, no biggy.

    [–]The_Duck1 0 points1 point ago

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    Humanity is doing just fine. Whatever we're doing to the environment, it's definitely not an existential threat to our species. It's possible that we've got an unsustainable population level resulting in some die-off at some point in the future. But how would we drive ourselves into extinction, except by intentionally and methodically nuking every single village on the planet?

    Realistically, global warming makes us move a bunch of coastal settlements inland, pollution increases cancer levels somewhat, some interesting plants and animals go extinct, and humanity carries on just fine.

    [–]nanaimo 2 points3 points ago

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    "Just fine" is a bit too peachy, don't you think?

    [–]The_Duck1 1 point2 points ago

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    Hm? No, I don't. The comic suggests that we're "changing nature so much we can't live in it." This is clearly not happening. Do you think humanity can't deal with the very slow changes in temperature that constitute global warming? Even if we harvest the entire Amazon, do you think humanity will die out? Do you think that the effects of whatever pollutants we are emitting are going to wipe out the entire race?

    We're not doing anything that's close to drastic enough to drive our species into extinction. The Earth's stuck with us.

    [–]Leroytankin 0 points1 point ago

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    You hit the nail right on the head, humanity is resourceful. After all, we have survived drastic climate change before (with stone age technology); I think we are capable of adapting again.

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    "Mother earth" is as ridiculous a representation as "God, the guy in the clouds with the long white beard and robe".

    You can keep both religions.

    [–]heyitslep -1 points0 points ago

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    Is it wrong my knee-jerk reaction to this was, "Fuck you"?

    [–]Shea4it -4 points-3 points ago

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    Let the environmentalism circlejerk begin.

    [–]heyitslep -2 points-1 points ago

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    Is it wrong my knee-jerk reaction to this was, "Fuck you"?

    [–]jdeliverer -2 points-1 points ago

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    In the words of George Carlin, "The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are fucked."

    [–]jdeliverer -2 points-1 points ago

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    In the words of George Carlin, "The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are fucked."

    [–]jdeliverer -2 points-1 points ago

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    In the words of George Carlin, "The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are fucked."

    [–]jdeliverer -2 points-1 points ago

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    In the words of George Carlin, "The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are fucked."

    [–]CaesarsDeath -1 points0 points ago

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    Oh this again? I realize not everybody sees the same thing, but this is posted every month, sometimes more than once a week.

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