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[–]lateness 1829 points1830 points ago

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A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.

-Unknown

[–][deleted] 762 points763 points ago

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A society falls when old men cut down trees whose shade they know they're not going to need any more.

[–]Lucky75 295 points296 points ago

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Welcome to the United States

[–]UtterlyDisposable 48 points49 points ago

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Pretty much.

[–]BenTG 2 points3 points ago

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-Michael Scott

[–]BeefPieSoup 248 points249 points ago

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This should be NASA's slogan.

[–][deleted] 237 points238 points ago

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well, they just changed it to, "shit guys, didn't there used to be office supplies?"

[–]SkullFuckMcRapeCunt 121 points122 points ago

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To be fair it used to be: Goddamn they made the inches smaller on my ruler! - Doug, Doug, calm down man look on the other side!

[–]MolokoPlusPlus 15 points16 points ago

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True story: In elementary school I found a plastic ruler with the inches divided into sevenths (one eighth mark was missing, the rest were evenly spaced, and the inches themselves were accurate). The same mistake was on dozens of these cheap mass-produced rulers, the school was full of them.

[–]chewy8126 25 points26 points ago

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The eighth mark is the same as the mark for the next inch, silly.

[–]BigMcLargeHuge 4 points5 points ago

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Quit throwing facts and common sense into the discussion or he'll stop posting...

[–]CougarAries 2 points3 points ago

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I work at a large company that deals heavily in manufacturing. There was a manufacturing engineer here who decided to design his own custom ruler that was about 10" long and had a mark at every 3mm. He wanted the company to pay for these custom made precision rulers to the tune of $1k each. Another engineer handed him his regular metal ruler and said he'd sell it to him for $100, and it even had the added feature of having a higher resolution. True Story.

[–]FormerWaffle 75 points76 points ago

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A society grows great when people write proverbs for which they know they shall never receive credit. - Unknown

[–]grenadiere42 127 points128 points ago

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Reminds me of my favorite quote: "We do not own the land, we borrow it from our grandchildren."

~ Native American Proverb

[–]WTFwhatthehell 123 points124 points ago

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I don't think that's really a Native American Proverb. it sounds like one of those things which get attributed as such later.

quick google

"the National Aquarium in Baltimore attributes the quote "We do not inherit the earth from our fathers, we are borrowing it from our children" (chiseled in stone) to David Brower"

[–]nonsensepoem 24 points25 points ago

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Well done. It wouldn't make sense as a proverb anyway, from people for whom ownership of land was an entirely foreign concept.

[–]tattertech 2 points3 points ago

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Semantics at best. Many Native American tribes were fiercely territorial and manipulated their environment aggressively.

[–]transmogrified 2 points3 points ago

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Yes, they were territorial between tribes, but for the tribes in the pacific northwest at least, their land-use models were one of stewardship over ownership. As in, the land was owned by everyone in the tribe, but one person or family was put in charge of managing the land to its best use (harvesting berries, roots, building materials, deer, salmon). The wealth taken from the land was redistributed to the tribe through potlatch, at which time it was assessed as to whether or not the land steward would be able to keep their title and continue managing the land (were they able to provide for the entire tribe while still maintaining future viability). As social status was attributed to how long you or your family had been in charge of a given parcel of land, there was great incentive to make it as productive and sustainable as possible.

[–]MeanwhileintheTARDIS 21 points22 points ago

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Way to ruin it

[–]Ag-E 3 points4 points ago

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White man stealing our slogans now too.

[–]Mel___Gibson 29 points30 points ago

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Oh yeah, because people take such good care of borrowed property.

[–]better_information 49 points50 points ago

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That is really beautiful. Thanks.

[–]monolithburger 12 points13 points ago

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I swear, shivers shot up my spine when I read that.

[–]Hyperr301 20 points21 points ago

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damn... thats some deep shit.

[–]lordwinks 8 points9 points ago

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Karl Pilkington's response to this on the Ricky Gervais podcasts is absolutely hilarious.

[–]kekione1 8 points9 points ago

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Greek Proverb.

[–]bojangles0023 15 points16 points ago

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that is a great quote. reminds me of my grandfather, r.i.p.

[–]SkullFuckMcRapeCunt 69 points70 points ago

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What a weird name for a Grandfather.

[–]ecksfactor 39 points40 points ago

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"Your son Rip is on line toot."

[–]xstatic411 6 points7 points ago

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Says the person w the username SkullFuckMcRapeCunt

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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My Dad: "I'll be dead before I have to worry about it".

[–]boardmonkey 1166 points1167 points ago

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This is the type of person I hope to be when I am his age.

[–]dementia13 111 points112 points ago

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We can be this type of person now.

[–]clemoh 14 points15 points ago

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We couldn't carry our Grandfather's Jockstrap into battle.

[–]thegravytrain 65 points66 points ago

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Do you really the baby boomer generation would do anything selfless like this?

[–]MananWho 38 points39 points ago

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I think what dementi13 is trying to say is that we don't have to wait until we're old to be this selfless.

Sure, the original post is very specific to the elderly, as it requires people who don't necessarily need to worry about the long-term effects of radiation. However, the rest of us can still make other selfless sacrifices without having to wait until we're older.

[–]PervaricatorGeneral 87 points88 points ago

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I think America Accidentally a generation :(

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[–]BerateBirthers 7 points8 points ago

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They are being selfless right now. Why else are they fighting the GOP against cuts to Medicare and other social programs?

[–]Y0tsuya 9 points10 points ago

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So they'll have it when they retire, duh.

Don't be surprised when the boomers swell the ranks of AARP and vote against the younger generation.

[–]apple-facedGOON 612 points613 points ago

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Better steer clear of the radiation then.

[–]1chi 216 points217 points ago

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But how else will I gain super powers?

[–]kaptinkangaroo 125 points126 points ago

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A spider bite of course.

[–]imwatters 64 points65 points ago

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A power battery and ring.

[–]gfixler 26 points27 points ago

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Mr. Griffin, you have lymphoma.

[–]oohitsalady 53 points54 points ago

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great quote and I hate to be that guy, but Mayor West had lymphoma.

[–]monkfishbandana 47 points48 points ago

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Can't we all just have lymphoma and get along?

[–]Xaphianion 12 points13 points ago

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He's right you know. Turns out the spider was magic, not radioactive.

[–]JambaLakadiPamba 25 points26 points ago

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I just want to bathe in a radioactive goo filled with magic spiders.

[–]ahmadamaj 62 points63 points ago

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Welcome to Australia.

[–]elperroborrachotoo 29 points30 points ago

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He said "magic", not "terrifying".

[–]blunt_toward_enemy 3 points4 points ago

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No, you let the spider take the radiation for you, then reap the rewards when it bites you and transfers the magic.

[–][deleted] 186 points187 points ago

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Even you thinking this now means you will be. I am 45 and around the 40's most of us start to realize that our selflessness defines us more than our younger aspirations.

[–]boardmonkey 94 points95 points ago

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I see where you are coming from, and I believe that it is a gradual change. I am turning 30 this year, and I have gone back to school to get a degree that can help me attempt to fix the world. 10 years ago I wanted to be in music, because I wanted to tour with Rock Bands. When I was 10 I wanted to be rich so I could pay people to dance for me while I laugh. Where am I going to be when I am 40?

Edit: Dyslexia

[–]kulcdj 203 points204 points ago

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in debt?

[–]kaptinkangaroo 29 points30 points ago

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Booooo!!! Bad form.

[–]HuruHara 9 points10 points ago

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BAD FORM, PETER !

[–]turboluvah 7 points8 points ago

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In Dustin Hoffman's voice, every damn time.

[–]Havokk 61 points62 points ago

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the redditor inside me says you'll be here at 40 posting about 50.

the 4chan troll inside me says dead in a ditch wearing a radiation suit next to a burnt up golf cart in the middle of a grocery store.

[–]bladezor 60 points61 points ago

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Ditch in a grocery store?

[–]cheeseburgerpizza 57 points58 points ago

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Shit has really hit the fan.

[–]ZeDestructor 6 points7 points ago

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its 4chan. so you need to ask?

[–]Madness_As_Muse 4 points5 points ago

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What are you getting a degree in?

[–]gfixler 30 points31 points ago

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selflology.

[–]MiracleBlue 23 points24 points ago

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The study of lolling at ones self.

[–]theknightwhosays_nee 54 points55 points ago

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This is the type of person EVERYONE should WANT to be at his age. I'm a small fry in the league of humans, but younger people tend to sugar coat everything for the elderly as if they didn't just experience half-a-century of LIFE. I understand not every elderly person is as feisty as Betty White, but I'll bet less than half of them are as air-headed as her character in Golden Girls.

My point in saying all this is: the USA is the best at making itself the victim. When we read this man's age is 72 our hearts begin to tremble because we think of our fucking grandparents. This man is not our grandfather. He's about to Fukushima radiation in the ass. Fuck yeah!

[–]Amystery 25 points26 points ago

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Fuck YEA God damn that's a hero

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points ago

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Asian?

[–]aulum 10 points11 points ago

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I try to be this type of person all my life.

[–]RahvinDragand 217 points218 points ago

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And thus the League of Super Powered Elderly People of Japan was born.

[–]yothisbalec 179 points180 points ago

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The League of Extraordinary Geriatrics?

[–]wartexmaul 46 points47 points ago

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Supergramp

[–]_xyzzy_ 482 points483 points ago

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Exactly! I keep trying to get my grandmother to mow the lawn but all she does is complain about her damn hip!

[–]mexicodoug 53 points54 points ago

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I bet she'd change her tune real quick if it came out that Monsanto grass and fertilizer was radioactive.

[–]CivEZ 27 points28 points ago

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Pretty sure it is.

[–]ColdShoulder 17 points18 points ago

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Nursing Home Orderly: Good news, everybody, we're extending arts and crafts time by four hours today.

Elderly Woman: My fingers hurt.

Nursing Home Orderly: What's that?

Elderly Woman: My fingers hurt.

Nursing Home Orderly: Oh, well, now your back's gonna hurt, 'cause you just pulled landscaping duty. Anybody else's fingers hurt?... I didn't think so.

[–]elephinite 2 points3 points ago

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The only Sandler movie to exist in my world

[–]apple-facedGOON 166 points167 points ago

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Wow, just think how awesome our species could be if only a small majority of people would think with this much rationality.

[–]zgh5002 72 points73 points ago

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They would turn on the other half.

[–]heatercat 41 points42 points ago

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More like the other half would turn on them.

[–]DeSaad 2 points3 points ago

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Then the selfish chickenshit half that disagrees would pass a law that forced all of the old people to act thus anyway, therefore spoiling the selfless sacrifice of the few and turning it into a negative.

Because I've seen other examples where exactly that has happened.

[–]friedsushi87 40 points41 points ago

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When I get that old, I want to spend the rest of my life fighting crime. In a cape. With a sexy side kick.

[–]KingOfTheMonkeys 26 points27 points ago

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I wish you the best of luck.

[–]fuzion 8 points9 points ago

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So you want to be an elder batman?

[–]Toorstain 9 points10 points ago

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With a sexy side kick.

ಠ_ಠ

[–]fuzion 9 points10 points ago

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I see nothing wrong with my previous statement.

[–]Toorstain 7 points8 points ago

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...Backing away slowly

[–]fuzion 8 points9 points ago

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There's also Alfred.

[–]Toorstain 7 points8 points ago

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Starts running

[–]Squirly 103 points104 points ago

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Please tell me this is real and I'm not getting trolled.

[–]diggitydugged 129 points130 points ago

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[–]OtisDElevator 66 points67 points ago

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TEPCO has been resisting their requests to help. I think TEPCO don't want them anywhere near Fukushima, because many of the pensioners had science, engineering and teaching careers.

If TEPCO has been involved in any shady dealing or corner cutting, then they wouldn't want to use educated pensioner engineers, who would quickly reveal any historically unsafe working practices. Instead TEPCO is happy to sacrifice uneducated disposable labor, confident that any skeletons that may exist are kept firmly in the cupboard.

The shit would certainly hit the fan if the pensioners managed to survey the site and started criticizing TEPCO for bad working practices.

As a footnote, I live in Japan. I've been following this story for a few weeks and as admirable as I find the humanity of the pensioners, I do not think anything will come of this.

[–]argo15 88 points89 points ago

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Honor is very important to them. They show it.

[–]KrakNup 24 points25 points ago

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It still is to some of us.

[–]Sicks3144 25 points26 points ago

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I think it is to everyone, it's just that some people have an immensely skewed idea of what honour is - primarily, they confuse their honour with their ego.

[–]vexos 20 points21 points ago

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"Some" is the keyword.

[–]BeefPieSoup 2 points3 points ago

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You're quite right. As a matter of fact I'm quite sure that there would be many elderly people in America or Europe for example who would be willing to do exactly the same thing, the difference being they probably wouldn't be allowed to, or wouldn't be taken seriously.

[–]sprohi 57 points58 points ago

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I'm continually impressed by Japan's attitude toward everything that has happened to them, and how they've handled it.

[–]fuzion 11 points12 points ago

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They accept it and try to fix it together, rather than groups of people bickering among themselves when each group has their own motives.

[–]Hardcover 15 points16 points ago

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Here's the link to the original BBC article / video.

[–]MetricSuperstar 10 points11 points ago

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Thank you.

Why is the submission a screenshot of a tumblr page instead of a link to the news article? Not only that, it takes a whole hour for someone else to post the source because OP can't or won't.

[–]woofers02 186 points187 points ago

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Shit like this is why losing the World Cup to Japan wasn't so hard to take.

[–]diggitydugged 38 points39 points ago*

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I'm surprised there hasn't been a conspiracy theory on Reddit's front page about that yet. It's something I've heard quite a few times from hardcore sports fans: Suffer a disaster, win a sports league. 9/11 happens? Patriots win Super Bowl. Katrina? Few years later New Orleans Saints win their first ever Super Bowl. Fukushima? Japan wins woman's World Cup. Hooray for coincidences and broad generalizations!

Edit: I didn't say I believed this silly garbage, I said I've heard sports nuts talk about it. Jeez, I regret bringing up sports in a thread about humanity.

[–]jackarroo 64 points65 points ago

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So what you're saying is that Haiti will sweep the 2012 Olympics?

[–]CunningLanguageUser 14 points15 points ago

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I'll remember this if they do.

[–]everyrainbow 88 points89 points ago

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The Pats aren't from New York.

[–]buffalo_sauce 33 points34 points ago

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Not only that, but New York probably hates the Pats more than any other city.

[–][deleted] 57 points58 points ago

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But they're patriots.

[–]bewareoftraps 13 points14 points ago

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Would've been a lot worse if the New York Jets won the Super Bowl. And as a side note, Patriot is pretty self explanatory.

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[–]billtimbob 2 points3 points ago

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Not only that, but the Yankees were handed a crushing defeat in Game 7 of the World Series just a couple months after 9/11.

[–]MananWho 69 points70 points ago

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9/11 happens? Patrios win Super Bowl.

Exactly. Who would have thought an American team would have won an American sports tournament the same year that we suffered a major terrorist attack??

[–]mossadi 59 points60 points ago

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My money was on Manchester United. It was a very bad year for me.

[–]jak0bk 12 points13 points ago

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Brady drops back into the shotgun, launches a hard one down field... AND Michael Owen with the interception! HE RUNS IT BACK TO OLD TRAFFORD HE SHOOTS HE SCORES!

MU WIN THE SUPERBOWL!

[–]mossadi 5 points6 points ago

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Ok, now it just feels like you're mocking me

[–]jsting 2 points3 points ago

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I would watch this.

[–]Sam-I-Am-Not 44 points45 points ago

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Good news is, the lab boys say the symptoms of asbestos poisoning show a median latency of forty-four point six years, so if you're thirty or older, you're laughing. Worst case scenario, you miss out on a few rounds of canasta, plus you forwarded the cause of science by three centuries. I punch those numbers into my calculator and it makes a happy face.

[–]MeinLiebling 6 points7 points ago

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I upvoted you. Please don't burn my house down with your combustible lemons.

[–]Aihwa 652 points653 points ago

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In America our elders just spend our money. Then blame us for it.

[–]erythro 27 points28 points ago

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Its a big cultural difference here. Japanese are more inclined to be amazingly self sacrificial for their community but are really very small givers to charity. In western society, there are different cultures within it. You've got the baby boomers with their sense of entitlement that earned the world many rights but now is coming back to bite us with pensions. They clean their plate to show that the food was good. And you've got the depression kids who don't ever want to be a bother and were far more meek and less demanding on pensions. They always leave a little on their plate so that they won't give the impression they were starving and they were fed so well they couldn't possible eat another bite. Don't knock culture, most have plenty positives and negatives - especially ours today.

[–]babiesloveboobies 68 points69 points ago*

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I'm not sure what you're basing this on, but my grandparents grew up during the depression. They manage their money very well and often help out younger family members financially.

I've also noticed families coming from other countries/cultures tend to take better care of their elders. I've been in and out of nursing homes and hospitals a lot and elderly white people usually live in nursing homes and have few or no family members visiting in the hospitals. Asians almost always live with family members and it's common to see large groups of visitors in their hospital rooms. Noticed the same for Latinos just not quite as much.

I'm white and not trying to talk shit about white people, I've just observed things that lead me to believe our culture is not very generous to older people.

[–]daisy0808 21 points22 points ago

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When my father was in his last phase of emphysema, my husband and I took care of him. We renovated our house to ensure it was accessible, managed his care, and most of all - I wanted to give him a sense of dignity. I wanted to do this, because I knew our time was limited. It was extremely difficult at the time, but we all supported one another. When his time came, he died peacefully in his sleep at home - not in a hospital. (He was young too - only 52.)

This changed my perspective immensely. So much of what we worry about is trivial. What matters in life are the relationships we have with our friends and family - I extract every day and make the most of it. Since that time, we have built a new house, and I ensured there is space for someone to come and stay with us should we ever need it. I believe when you are in your final days, you need your family - and moments of joy, comfort and care more than ever.

It would have been easy to be selfish, but the gift I have received in return has been far greater than any sum of money could bring. I will say this - there are times when you can't be the caregiver, especially if the illness or experience is beyond your capability.

[–]tablevschair 125 points126 points ago

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Not your grandparents, your parents. You know, the supply side economics, multiple war starting, social services cutting, hippie, neoconservative, walmart shopping, selfish ones. The ones who are willing to throw you and their parents under the bus every election and they have the numbers to do it.

[–]unusedalias 49 points50 points ago

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Thank you so much. It is our parent's generation that really drove the country into the ground, not our grandparents. Not enough people remember this or are afraid to admit it because it is their parents.

[–]Jorbo 21 points22 points ago

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I blame the 80's.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points ago

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I blame the decision to elect Reagan. Watch Carter's imfamous speech about consumption, greed and making the hard choices now in order to create a sustainable future. People looked at him and said "shutup you nerd" and elected a spokesperson.

[–]Aihwa 26 points27 points ago*

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My grandmother told her own daughter that she needed to "get off the government gravy train". My mother is a highschool biology teacher who probably won't get to retire. There are exceptions to every rule, but the Senior citizens are roused from their chairs come election time by Fox News, and the results are public knowledge.

[–]bigsmellyfloppyhat 7 points8 points ago

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I know this is anecdotal but I've noticed this as well. The majority of minorities I know all have very strong family ties (not excluding extended family members) whereas most white people I know think it's completely normal to see family members only on Thanksgiving or Christmas.

[–]unusedalias 5 points6 points ago*

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Honestly, you are basing your generalization on a small sample of people. I live in the South (US) and family ties tend to be stronger in this region. Almost every white family I know is incredibly close. Family values do get influenced by the culture of an area.

I believe the real reason most people only get to see each other on holidays is because of the way we work so much. Americans almost never take off, and their work would probably not allow it. Even if I wanted to see my family every day, by the time I'm done with work and other chores, it's time for bed. If Americans were able to work less, say more like European countries, I honestly think families would be a lot closer. I doubt it will ever happen though. It is engrained in our culture to work to death.

[–]ThePain 226 points227 points ago

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This is the way men were expected to act when they were growing up, and how people in general still should. You hear stories form the Titanic where the men would put on their best suits and usher their wives and children into the lifeboats and tell them they'd get on the next one and not to worry. They knew they were about to die, but they did it with dignity. Again here you have the old stepping up and taking fate with dignity to make sure others don't suffer.

I hope to god if a moment in life is put forward like this to me I'm not too cowardly to let someone else take the risk for me.

[–]FromMars 91 points92 points ago

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Actually in regards to the Titanic they believed they were going to be rescued long before the ship went down (it was sinking very slowly). That's why there was no sign of panic on the ship.

Up to that point they were only following procedure and no one really believed they were going to die. They managed to contact several ships with their SOS signal. They had hope. Unfortunately none of the ships were able to make it in time.

[–]trolling_thunder 331 points332 points ago

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Actually, the ship was sinking very rapidly. For a space that big to fill with water in a hair over two hours is huge.

While it's true that most of the people who were offered spots in the first 10 boats thought the ship would remain afloat, by the time the last 7 boats (three of the four collapsibles were not lowered by davits) were lowered, it was apparent what was happening. This is reflected in the capacity numbers: boats 1-10 were launched at anywhere from 5-24% capacity, while the last seven were at 92-110% capacity.

There were plenty of signs of panic on the ship. There are several reports of officers drawing pistols to keep the crowd back (most notably 2nd Officer Lightoller and 5th Officer Lowe, who both survived and related their first hand accounts of doing to so congress) and at least one record of shots being fired (Lowe again; he said he fired a warning shot along the ship's side.)

But despite the increasing desperation of the situation, there were, indeed, still many accounts of bravery among the men: John Jacob Astor put his pregnant wife into a boat, only asking for the number so he could find her again; Ida Strauss was offered a spot in a lifeboat but refused to go without her husband, Isador. When it was suggested that nobody would object to the 75 year old Mr. Strauss taking a seat, he said he would not get on before any other man. And, of course, there's Benjamin Guggenheim, who disappeared below decks with his manservant, only to return some time later dressed in their evening best. When survivor Jack Thayer asked him about it, Guggenheim replied "We've dressed up in our best and are prepared to go down like gentlemen. Tell my wife, if it should happen that my secretary and I both go down, tell her I played the game out straight to the end. No woman shall be left aboard this ship because Ben Guggenheim is a coward."

[–]brycedriesenga 120 points121 points ago

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Whoa man. Thanks for the interesting information. I am impressed. Especially with that Ben Guggenheim. What a suave motherfucker.

[–]HyperionCantos 72 points73 points ago

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Realizing that the situation was much more serious than he had implied, as well as realizing he was not going to be rescued, he then returned to his cabin with Giglio and the two men changed into evening wear. The two were seen heading into the Grand staircase closing the door behind them. He was heard to remark, "We've dressed up in our best and are prepared to go down like gentlemens." He also gave a survivor a message saying, "Tell my wife, if it should happen that my secretary and I both go down, tell her I played the game out straight to the end. No woman shall be left aboard this ship because Ben Guggenheim is a coward." *Mr. Guggenheim and his valet were last seen seated in deck chairs in the Staircase sipping brandy and smoking cigars. *Guggenheim, his valet Victor Giglio, went down with the ship. Their bodies, if recovered, were never identified. Guggenheim chauffeur René Pernot was also lost in the disaster.

[–]Shuggus 2 points3 points ago

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Well I've never let my valet something something

[–]snoharm 17 points18 points ago

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This was actually pretty interesting, can we get some sources? Both for further reading and so I don't feel silly repeating it.

[–]trolling_thunder 66 points67 points ago

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Thanks! Sources are no problem:

For the best in-depth reading, the two that pop immediately to mind are Walter Lord's classic "A Night to Remember" (the first book to rely heavily on survivor stories), and Wyn Craig Wade's "Titanic: End of a Dream", which offers the best look at the congressional hearings after the sinking and Wisconsin Senator William Smith, who was behind them. The actual transcript of the senate hearings is available as well which, while dry in many spots, is worthwhile for the testimony of Captain A.H. Rostron of the RMS Carpathia, which picked up survivors. (It's also noteworthy for being the source of my favorite quote ever: Senator Smith asked 2nd Officer Charles Lightoller "At what time did you leave the ship?" Lightoller responded for the record "I did not leave the ship. She left me.")

Online, Here is a list of the lifeboats, how many were in them, where and when they were launched, etc. It's not the most elegant site to read, but the information is all there.

Additionally, the Titanic Historical Society is a wealth of reading material covering all aspects of the ship and its sisters, including this one, looking into the "brittle steel" theory.

Finally, though it feels like a cop out, there's good old wikipedia, which actually serves as a pretty good jumping-off point for anyone looking to get started.

Hope that helps!

[–]the2belo 2 points3 points ago

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Don't forget Walter Lord's second book on the subject, The Night Lives On, which includes the results of additional research around the time of WHOI/IFREMER's discovery of the wreck in 1985.

[–]bentleyk9 3 points4 points ago

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Ben Guggenheim "boarded the RMS Titanic and was accompanied by his mistress, a French singer named Madame Léontine Aubart." Hopefully they left that out of the explanation to his wife.

[–]walkerism 2 points3 points ago

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Some of the most interesting accounts I've read from the Titanic, thank you sir.

[–]Gallifreyan_Type_40 15 points16 points ago

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That's also why many of the lifeboats were sent out under capacity; nobody truly believed they were going to die so they stayed on the boat because they didn't want to "pointlessly" leave behind all their worldly possessions.

[–]trtry 36 points37 points ago

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that was because back then men had all the privileges, so it was their duty to protect the women and children, now everyone has the same rights

[–]ChaSuiBao 49 points50 points ago

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This is called heroism.

[–]kilgore_trout89 21 points22 points ago

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I read an article about this a while back. In addition to the reasoning stated in the picture, they also said something to the effect of "We're the generation that brought nuclear power plants to Japan, so we should be the ones responsible for it." Just awesome, awesome stuff.

[–]lifelurker 20 points21 points ago

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"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one." - Spock.

"I never took the Kobayashi Maru test until now. What do you think of my solution?"

Um, there is no sequel where you come back from the dead.

[–]Alpha_and_Teilhard 8 points9 points ago

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"No, Admiral...but it is the human thing to do." - Spock

Socialist!

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago*

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NYTimes had a long article on this 2 weeks. I will go look for it.

Edit: Here is is

Edit again: After re-reading it, I realize it's not very long. I remember reading like a 6 page long story about this somewhere recently though.

[–]haxxorz 39 points40 points ago

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What a bunch of fucking studs.

[–]erebar 26 points27 points ago

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Damn, there are countries where people expect to live nearly 90 years?

Hey, so about that health care reform...

[–]Volopok 7 points8 points ago

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Already was on frontpage not long after this all started.

[–]BigTimeTimmyJim99 25 points26 points ago

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we could all learn something from the self sacrifice the land of the rising sun has shown these last months

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points ago

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They've done what they have to do.. frankly I don't think there's any other way it could've been handled. Many Japanese still get on with their day-to-day lives - and they did when the series of disasters unfolded as well. They seem to have brilliant fortitude.

[–]whydidisaythatwhy 3 points4 points ago

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There's a really offensive kamikaze joke buried in here somewhere.

[–]Lucifers_Ka 5 points6 points ago

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Take my upvote. May it shield you on your quest.

[–]AyCray 5 points6 points ago

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I met this guy and have gone to all of the meetings. He's a well spoken man who's passion for helping Japan is immeasurable.

[–]FoxHoundUnit89 32 points33 points ago

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Old, but doesn't cease to warm my heart. I love to know that there are humans that selfless still on this planet.

[–]FBIorange 8 points9 points ago

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at least in this case it can't be too old

[–]flapcats 15 points16 points ago

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If this was China, these comments would be considerably more cynical.

[–]SpineBuster 4 points5 points ago

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These elderly men will one day be allowed entry into Valhalla, but Odin alone will choose the day.

[–]QuantumMelody 74 points75 points ago

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It's not "the ultimate sacrifice" if they die before they get cancer from the radiation. Sacrifice means you're losing something, but they're dying anyway. What they're doing is called smart.

[–]yothisbalec 70 points71 points ago

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Sure, but the compassion comes from the reason why they're doing it. To them, it's not just a logical choice to make, they're doing it to alleviate the burden from being placed upon a younger generation who, in their eyes, have more potential left in their lives. To me, it makes all the difference in the world.

[–]CynicalTyler 27 points28 points ago

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This was my snarky brain's first thought as well. But on a more realistic plane, there's no guarantees that a cancer couldn't develop that quickly, it's just unlikely. Plus there are other hazards with an industrial workplace, and the fact that most 72-year-olds aren't well suited to manual labor. So there's certainly more sacrifice here than sitting on the couch watching robotic squid porn, or whatever old Japanese men are watching these days.

[–]folderol 2 points3 points ago

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72-year-olds aren't well suited to manual labor

No but if we are talking 72 year olds world wide, my money would be on the Japanese.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points ago

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<3

I fucking hate you.

[–]JW_00000 12 points13 points ago

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Wait a minute... Is this a BBC article inside a Gizmodo article inside what seems to be a Tumblr post, inside an imgur image? Where is the wooden table??

[–]Mathemagics 6 points7 points ago

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Not to get all religiousy, but Japan is mostly nontheistic or subscribers of Buddhism and/or a form of ancestor worship both of which are more spiritual than anything else. This a prime example of how you don't need to be of a certain faith or have religion in your life to be a good human being. An entire demographic is going out to help it's own. that's humans helping humans. It's not from God that we recieve our morals, it is from our own souls.

[–]shenpen 2 points3 points ago

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I don't think anyone seriously argues that people receive their morals from god - I think the argument is that there can be a causal relationship betwen religion and morals. This is a different thing. Basically, what people need to be taught is that they are not the center of the world, a sense of humilty. God, Buddhism, ancestor worhship, yoga or meditation, many things work for that. There is one thing that doesn't work, and that is exactly our modern materialist approach, pure ethical philosophy, telling people other have human rights etc. etc. and expect them to behave well. This is what doesn't work because what is missing from it is either dissolving (Buddhism), or humbling or sacrificing (ancestor worship, theism) the ego. So I think the reasonable argument is that our typical modern materialist approach is what doesn't work, because it only talks about rights, and not about dissolving, sacrificing or humbling the internal tyrant, the ego.

[–]Whalee 17 points18 points ago

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Meanwhile in America... Old rich people pay young poor to clean up toxic waste

[–]mexicodoug 12 points13 points ago

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Or, as in the case of the BP Gulf fiasco, rich people pay a pittance to have nobody do anything about toxic waste.

[–]kingbot 6 points7 points ago

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Young poor? More like across the border...poor.

[–]Irving94 4 points5 points ago

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Sometimes I like to stop and think: "Although a lot of shit is wrong right now, humankind is definitely doing it right."

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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FOR THE SWARM

[–]jambo2011 3 points4 points ago

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You know what else came into my mind?

There were no reports of people running through the outskirts of the place, robbing everything they could find in abandoned houses or shops.

That's also humanity.

[–]Grainslol 4 points5 points ago

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WAIT, hold on.. You're telling me that there are people that actually care about future generations? I'm American, this concept is completely foreign to me.

[–]Dabbijo 2 points3 points ago

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That's so touching I feel violated

[–]DJ8Man 2 points3 points ago

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Ok, Japan. We get it. You're better than us.

[–]belizeanheat 11 points12 points ago

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"Humanity" isn't quite the right word. It's more like "duty" or "for the greater good". In the US its ingrained early and often to do what's best for yourself only.

[–]jbot84 5 points6 points ago

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What I want to know is how the fuck are there 11 thousand downvotes?

Doesn't this strike anyone else as an absurd amount given the clearly positive message of this image/post/story?

[–]jaalin 2 points3 points ago

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the up/down numbers are fudged by the system for bot-related purposes. the difference is real, the up/down isn't.

[–]Untitleddreamer 4 points5 points ago

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Here in America we cut old people's benefits to put money in the military so young people could die!

[–]SlotCarSteve 17 points18 points ago

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If that happened in America the old people would be like "Fuck you! The young people have to do it! I don't have much time left and I should enjoy it!"

[–]Red_means_go 5 points6 points ago

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Proof that old people rock

[–]SlotCarSteve 8 points9 points ago

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*Not available in all areas. Void where prohibited.

[–]tenehemia 2 points3 points ago

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Totally awesome, but is it really "the ultimate sacrifice" if, by his own admission, it's not going to be the thing that kills him?

[–]cefari 2 points3 points ago

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What stuck out to me is that he's 72 and still expects to live another 15 years. I'm pretty sure our expectancy here in the US is 72 years

[–]SystemOutPrintln 2 points3 points ago*

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Please, instead of posting the screen cap link the actual article. Some of us may want to read the whole story. Oh and pick the BBC one because Gawker blows.

[–]theropod 2 points3 points ago

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Repost. It's a shame the guy that put this up first didn't get nearly as much karma.

[–]Frangie 2 points3 points ago

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My Hero !! If there is an afterlife you will be welcomed with open hands

[–]defconzero 2 points3 points ago

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Ultimate sacrifice? He just did the math and told you that he was going to die before radiation exposure could kill him. He's just being practical.

[–]simperingfool 2 points3 points ago

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No, this is called altruism. While humanity includes this guy, it also includes a lot of dickshits.

[–]Sarstan 2 points3 points ago

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Making the ultimate sacrifice...

Did that bitch not read the fucking article she just posted? The guy says "fuck it. I'm going to die before cancer can get me, anyway. Why shouldn't I?" That's far from a sacrifice.

Don't get me wrong. This is great. It's just really, quit acting like the guy is putting something on the line.

[–]Navi_to_the_rescue 2 points3 points ago

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Wait! It's getting a tad sensationalistic in here.

The man says that the point of the elderly volunteering is that since they'll be dead of old age in 10-15 years, and cancer takes many more years to develop, it won't be an issue for them. The writer calls this an "ultimate sacrifice," but it's not much of a sacrifice at all, it's realism. It's just plain smart. The point is that hopefully no one will get cancer from the radiation if it's done this way.

Yes, this is incredibly awesome. But it's the intelligent caring that's awesome, and not so much a percieved 'ultimate sacrifice.'

[–]jdt2011 2 points3 points ago

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Great christian people...o wait

[–]Jephae 2 points3 points ago

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The way the Japanese come together and help each other, and how most of them are just thankful for their lives and for the people around them is really inspiring. They're the type of people who understand that things happen and you just have to do what needs to be done. No complaining, no desire for attention to be brought to their sacrifice. Just do it because it's important. It amazes me.

[–]Dave-the-dwarf 2 points3 points ago

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this is what people do for thier loved ones

[–]davidthefat 2 points3 points ago

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Only thing that manage to make me tear up every time I see it.

[–]KRATOSBRAH 12 points13 points ago

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This would never happen in America.

Moar like

"These fucking young fucks, lazy, entitled punks don't wanna march into those radiation zones and clean shit up, they're the reason America's failin!"

[–]kkavoura 4 points5 points ago

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I'm not sure if I'm completely wrong but at such an age due to normal environmental impact and aging you have a higher chance of developing cancer in general. Cancer is the result of a combination of a number of failures in the DNA repair department and therefore the accumulation of mutations that affect cellular growth rates and their respective containment mechanisms overall end up interfering with normal cellular processes. Being exposed to high levels of radiation, especially at such an age would likely accelerate all these processes. Even though it is an extremely kind and selfless act, I would imagine that perhaps cancer would catch up with people of such age in much less time than they are projecting.

My basic point is that the statement: "us older ones have less chance of getting cancer" is in my opinion false. If anything, due to the amount of carcinogens you've been exposed to your entire life / already accumulated mutations, your (likely) less strong immune system and cancer suppressing mechanism weaknesses you actually would have a higher chance of developing cancer than someone younger.

[–]lifelurker 5 points6 points ago*

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4/11/11: The Fukushima 50, the Japanese technicians who chose to stay behind in the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant to try to avert a meltdown after the deadly tsunami hit Japan last month, have reportedly resigned themselves to the fact that many or most of them will likely die in the upcoming weeks and months from radiation poisoning. “My son and his colleagues have discussed it at length and they have committed themselves to die if necessary to save the nation. He told me they have accepted they will all probably die from radiation sickness in the short term or cancer in the long-term,” the mother of a 32-year-old worker told FoxNews.

The workers have been struggling to prevent a meltdown to the four reactors which were critically damaged in the March 11 earthquake and tsunami. Since then, radiation has been leaking from the complex, contaminating food produced in surrounding farmland and seeping into groundwater beneath the site. Radiation has been detected in at least a 25 mile radius of the plant, and the workers, who wear nothing more than hazard suits sealed with duct tape, have been the most directly exposed. Around Japan, they have become heroes, and are known 'as atomic samurai'.

[–]frazehaze 5 points6 points ago

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Wtf is wrong with 26,166 people?