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[–]HeirToPendragon 199 points200 points ago

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[–][deleted] 105 points106 points ago

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I wish Lucas would make another shitty Star Wars movie just so Plinkett can make fun of it. Those reviews were more entertaining than the prequel trilogy.

[–]reddit_feminist 36 points37 points ago

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he's doing indiana jones 4 next

[–]cresteh 38 points39 points ago

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I love how long they are. They feel like movies almost.

[–]Dylnuge 14 points15 points ago

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I love them so much. "But what you didn't realize is how fucking wrong you were."

[–]moriquendo 2 points3 points ago

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Perhaps the true, hidden purpose (in the grand scheme of things) of the new SW movies was to cause the creation of (one of) the best movie reviews ever?!

[–]Shiny_Blue 1 point2 points ago

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You should hear Mark Kermode's reviews. For those of you that don't know, he airs (with Simon Mayo) a weekly podacast on BBC Radio 5 Live. If you haven't heard of him before, just check out his rants on the Star Wars prequels, Sex & The City 2, Eat Pray Love (Vomit), Gwynneth Paltrow and anything with Danny Dyer.

Hello to Jason Isaacs.

[–]Weequay2 4 points5 points ago

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can you mail me some?

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[–]1rv 1 point2 points ago

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Thank you so much, that made me do massive lols several times, particularly at "gay robot".

[–]ridetildie 123 points124 points ago

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all of the posters we/are awesome: Episode III

[–]SpaceRook 59 points60 points ago

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I think Episode III is my favorite because that's when it started to feel like Star Wars. The art design started to become more familiar.

This is everything that's wrong with Episode I. The original trilogy felt like a real world...dirty and used. Machines were beat up. Robots were dull and dusty. In Episode 1, everything is so shiny and bland.

[–]Market_Anarchist 221 points222 points ago

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I hate to be THAT guy but, that is the ship of a queen of a planet, not a spice smuggler. All we really see in the Old Trilogy is rag tag rebels and a tyrannical dictator's mass produced navy.

[–]HasNoClue 100 points101 points ago

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You do realize that there is no less of a 30 year difference between EP1 and EP4 right? And during those years it went from a somewhat utopia era to a war that exhausted most of the peoples resources. Thus they have to reuse a lot of things so planes were not shiny and new.

[–]Jensaarai 98 points99 points ago

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Yeah, it would've been great if they showed that.

[–]KashN 3 points4 points ago

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Thank you! This is the real problem with the prequels. We are expected to accept too many premises that we are or are not told.

[–]FOR_SClENCE 43 points44 points ago*

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I don't know if you played The Force Unleashed II, but I recognized the Z-95 Headhunter.

They were on-screen for no more than three thirty seconds, in high-resolution glory. I'll get a screenshot right now. EDIT: Here it is.

And here's the scene it comes from; it'll play in HD automatically. Also take note of the Rebel GR-75 Transports, Nebulon-B Frigate, and two ships only previously seen in Empire at War: an Interceptor Frigate / Action VI Transport and a DP20 Frigate.

A lot of nerd love (and half an hour) went into this comment.

[–]Afterburned 13 points14 points ago

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This is just me being a peddantic nerd but that Interceptor Frigate is actually an Action VI Transport.

[–]FOR_SClENCE 3 points4 points ago

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Wow, you're right. The cockpit is barely visible, but the Lambda-class Shuttle-style nose is definitely there. Here's an upvote for your even sharper eye.

[–]anothergaijin 5 points6 points ago

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I don't know if you played The Force Unleashed II

Despite paying full price for it, I couldn't play it for more than 15 minutes before wanting to kill myself :(

[–]SpaceRook 51 points52 points ago*

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I just don't find anything inspiring about the design. The original trilogy had tons of little ships that looked cool. In fact, damn near every character had a ship that helped define their personality. Vader had a Star Destroyer and a unique Tie Fighter. Han (and Lando) had the Millennium Falcon. Luke had the X-Wing. Boba Fett had Slave 1. Jabba had his barge.

Padme's ship is bland and featureless.

Wait....maybe it does match her character. I take it all back.

[–]yaredw 24 points25 points ago

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And for a second I thought you were gonna post this guy.

[–]Magnon 28 points29 points ago

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Me-sa shit all over movie!

[–]moriquendo 2 points3 points ago

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[–]uncreative_username3 3 points4 points ago

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Probably the best line in the whole movie. It was one of the few that really showed who the person was.

[–]TheCodexx 57 points58 points ago

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The real problem is that the narrative sucks, it contradicts the much better Original trilogy, and the characters are all wrong.

It also makes all sorts of assumptions about things. We don't know how Jedi dressed. But now they all dress like Obi-Wan did. This guy just chilled out on Tatooine for 20 years dressed in Jedi robes and nobody questioned that? And Darth Vader never thought to check his homeworld or his distance relatives there, but he lets them get murdered by Stormtroopers?

Oh, and everyone, including Imperial officers that looks rather old have completely forgotten about the Force within the course of twenty years, even when Vader chokes one of them in front of the others. And why is Tarkin in charge of Vader in Episode 4 and later on he's directly under the Emperor? Why do all Sith have Darth in their name when Vader is the only one mentioned in the originals?

It seems like a lot of stuff was made up or extrapolated just to make things work.

Oh, and seriously, I can understand Anakin fixing up an old Protocol droid he found in a scrap heap, but how does he made a production-level Droid, most of which are produced by a corporation, in his home? From scratch. And C-3PO and R2-D2 just forget all of this, yet it's implied in the EU that R2 was the one who told the entire story in the first place, and Episode 4 spends most of the time following them.

I really wish someone more competent than George Lucas handled the Prequels. I'd go watch a remake with just about any director and producer at the helm. Call Spielberg and Edgar Wright and have them remake the Prequels or make Episodes 7-9 or something. I just want a good Star Wars film that makes sense and isn't contradictory to the current lore.

[–]ZippyDan 25 points26 points ago

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It also makes all sorts of assumptions about things. We don't know how Jedi dressed.

Yoda and Anakin are dressed in pretty much the same clothing as Force ghosts at the end of the original (unmodified) Return of the Jedi. So that was established by the Original Trilogy. All the Extended Universe stuff that came out in the 20 years between RotJ and Phantom Menace followed that implication (except for reeeally ancient Jedi), presumably under the guidance of LucasArts. So this is not surprising.

And why is Tarkin in charge of Vader in Episode 4 and later on he's directly under the Emperor?

This was an Original Trilogy issue. Tarkin dies in Ep4. It was good for Lucas to throw Tarkin in at the end of Ep3, but I agree some more explanation would have been nice.

Why do all Sith have Darth in their name when Vader is the only one mentioned in the originals?

This was established for at least a decade in the Expanded Universe (again, presumably under the guidance of Lucasfilm and therefore indirectly under the guidance of Lucas) that "Darth" was a Sith title.

Oh, and seriously, I can understand Anakin fixing up an old Protocol droid he found in a scrap heap, but how does he made a production-level Droid, most of which are produced by a corporation, in his home? From scratch.

If we assume Droid technology is as common as contemporary computer technology (and everything we see from the movies seems to imply it is), then it could have been as simple as putting together a computer is today. Given enough time, this is not surprising: and Anakin did work at a junkyard. Additionally, we are supposed to find his technical wizardry impressive. A 10 year-old could put together a computer in our time (but wouldn't necessarily be able to design a CPU). Similarly, couldn't Anakin rebuild a protocol droid out of junk parts?

And C-3PO and R2-D2 just forget all of this, yet it's implied in the EU that R2 was the one who told the entire story in the first place, and Episode 4 spends most of the time following them.

Nope. Ep3 just establishes that C-3PO had his memory wiped. R2 apparently remembers everything (which makes sense if he is the story teller). Throughout the Original Trilogy, R2 seems to be wiser and know more about what is going on than it appears. The fact that he can't communicate verbally makes this more believable/mysterious.

Anyway, I thought Ep1 was meh, Ep2 was ok, and Ep3 was very good, as compared to the Original Trilogy which is all great+. So I certainly don't think Lucas did a fantastic job with the prequels. Not all of your specific objections hold up to scrutiny, but I agree that overall Lucas showed a lack of creativity (what you call extrapolations and assumptions) where it would have been interesting, and creativity that just made things stupid where he should have just left well enough alone.

[–]samiiRedditBot 24 points25 points ago

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We don't know how Jedi dressed. But now they all dress like Obi-Wan did. This guy just chilled out on Tatooine for 20 years dressed in Jedi robes and nobody questioned that?

Plenty of people and creatures wore that fashion in the Star Wars universe, for instance Jawas, and besides Luke wore the same outfit at the start of Return of the Jedi when he tried to negotiate with Jabba, so you would assume that it would have been the clothing of a Jedi. Perhaps there's just a shortage of high quality cotton appeal due to trade embargos?

And Darth Vader never thought to check his homeworld or his distance relatives there, but he lets them get murdered by Stormtroopers?

It was the scene of the major emotional trauma of his life, why would he? Perhaps he had such resentment that he personally ordered the destruction of the Owen's farm, or perhaps the Stormtroopers simply acted off their own bat because they were desperate for results that they could show Vader (for some massive reward, maybe) and were completely ignorate of the historical significance that the place had for him.

Oh, and everyone, including Imperial officers that looks rather old have completely forgotten about the Force within the course of twenty years, even when Vader chokes one of them in front of the others. And why is Tarkin in charge of Vader in Episode 4 and later on he's directly under the Emperor?

The guy just had massive balls. Presumably the empire was attempting to give the appearance of still being democratic - much in line with how fascist governments have operated in our own time - by paying lip service to the old regime, For Example the republic senate was still operating at the start of ANH. You would assume that the regime hadn't tighten its grip completely at that stage, with Vader not going through officers like peanuts until Empire. Also Tarkin was more of a civil servant/executive officer whose role would have been administrative rather than providing direct leadership - like Vader. I.E., holding Vader's leech.

Oh, and seriously, I can understand Anakin fixing up an old Protocol droid he found in a scrap heap, but how does he made a production-level Droid, most of which are produced by a corporation, in his home? From scratch.

Interchangeable parts. Are you trying to argue that it's impossible to build a computer at home from parts you have laying around? because I'm typing this from a computer where I've done just that. Presumably Anakin just built C3-P0 from parts that he had scavenged over years (there was even a spare body in Watto's shop in TPM if you recall) and put it together like a giant lego set - as a hobby. Who said he built it from scratch? because if that had been the case you would assume he would have built something more practical than a protocol 'droid if his intention was to use it for housework.

And C-3PO and R2-D2 just forget all of this, yet it's implied in the EU that R2 was the one who told the entire story in the first place, and Episode 4 spends most of the time following them.

C-3PO had his memory erased at the end of Sith and R2-D2 made a direct beeline to Obi-Wan, to the point where Luke is surprised by R2-D2's dedication to what he thinks to be its former owner. Why would he do that except for the past history between them? and why shouldn't the story follow the 'droids since R2-D2 is basically carrying the plot device (the death star plans) driving the whole movie?

Granted I still agree that the movies had plenty of problems.

[–]Classic1977 10 points11 points ago

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You are a Star Wars apologist.

[–]AccordingIy 6 points7 points ago

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Give JJ Abrams a crack at it in 20 years for the star wars reboot!

[–]Frankocean2 5 points6 points ago*

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Indeed.

The moment when Luke and Leia where born, was the only moment in the entire trilogy that I went "Holy shit!! thats actually luke and leia being born" the only moment when lucas actually made an emotional connection with me.

[–]EvilTom 12 points13 points ago

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I was pretty bent out of shape when the clones turned on the Jedi and started shooting them in the back.

[–]thrownaway21 2 points3 points ago

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i think for me it was when anakin killed the child padawans. I think in that very moment you realize how far gone the character is.

[–]jonathanrdt 8 points9 points ago

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Are you serious? "She's just lost the will to live..." And I wanted to flee the theater...more so.

[–]Blockbonce 10 points11 points ago

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Never saw that poster before now.. That poster is truly awesome.

[–]pubgrub 43 points44 points ago

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I always liked that one

[–]mrpoopistan 528 points529 points ago

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Having rewatched the prequels with a seven year old, let me say a few things in their defense...

  1. If you watch them in order starting with Phantom Menace and not knowing how it ends, Anakin's turn is a bit a more shocking.

  2. Phantom Menace actually is pretty well-paced.

  3. It just happens that trying to science up The Force is more than a bit like killing someone's dog. Not to mention it makes all the Sith look like dumbfucks every time they refer to the Jedi as a cult and scum and various other insults.

  4. However disappointing the prequels are, Ben vs Anakin at the end of Revenge of the Sith exceeds every expectations you had. And that's a rarity in movies, because showing a legendary story long after the audience has been told about it usually falls short. (See the Star Trek reboot's depiction of the Kobayashi Maru incident.)

  5. a. The great failure of the prequels is that the political intrigue makes it very difficult to fathom the exact peril of the bad guys' potential victory.

  6. b. Even worse, when you get right down to it, the bad guys were right and the Chancellor did need to be destroyed. Woops.

  7. c. Even worser, You never really know who the bad guys are. Except for Count Dooku, none of the bad guys really inhabit their badness the way Darth Vader does at key moments in Eps 4-6.

  8. a. On balance, the prequels are fairly watchable.

  9. b. They fall short of expectations, but that's largely because Lucas missed a chance to really inhabit the tragedy of Anakin's turn to the dark side.

There's a reason we that the big quote we all take from the prequels is when Ben is screaming at Anakin "You were the chosen one!" At that moment, in one shot, Ewan McGregor hits something that none of the previous eight hours of exposition hits: there is a sick tragedy in the idea of an orphan slaughtering his adopted family.

  1. Overall, what the prequels got wrong was that they needed to be smaller. What make's Luke's story work is that Luke's role in the rebellion is only linked to the big action once: during the attack on the first Death Star. Beyond that, Luke's story is very small, amounting to some training and two sword fights with Vader.

If the prequels had focused much harder on the relationship between Ben and Anakin, they would have hit their mark better. Where the prequels really screw up is that Ben spends almost all of the story AWAY from Anakin. It's not an accident that the best moment in the prequels arises from Ben being with Anakin.

[–]HostisHumaniGeneris 305 points306 points ago

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For the Phantom Menace, specifically, I felt that Jake Loyd was a bad casting call. The story would have been more compelling to me if the actor had been like... 14 years old instead of 8. It would have made the Podracing and Naboo fighter scene less campy, it would have made the Padme/Anakin future romance more plausible, and it would have made Yoda's "too old" speech stand out as more of a parallel to Luke's training as a young adult.

[–]knirefnel 63 points64 points ago

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Are you an angel???????

[–]sage_joch 71 points72 points ago

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If I ever see Natalie Portman at a bar, I'm using that pickup line on her.

[–]JayPetey 62 points63 points ago

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Sounds original. Should work.

[–]Joe_Kehr 5 points6 points ago

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Yeah, as a response, she will turn to her son and say "Look my son! That's what we call a dork."

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points ago

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She takes her son to a bar? Hardcore.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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WHATCHOO WANT NATALIE???

[–]IKilledLauraPalmer 1 point2 points ago

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[–]moriquendo 13 points14 points ago

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If you see her, it will not be her but a dummy that will promptly get blown up by enemies of the Republic. Leave the bar without delay!

[–]iRyanHD 14 points15 points ago

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So basically you'd be using that pick up line on Kierra Knightly instead.

[–]gruntmods 1 point2 points ago

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I think you mean cantina

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points ago

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[–]TheCodexx 227 points228 points ago

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Not to mention an older actor might have the ability to, you know, act.

[–]Scudda 183 points184 points ago*

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Here - test your acting chops on these chestnuts. Tell me if you nail down a convincing delivery.

  • "Are you an angel?"

  • "Now this is podracing!"

  • "From my point of view the Jedi are evil."

  • "I don't like sand".

  • "I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I HATE THEM!"

  • "I? I couldn't have! She was alive! I felt it!"

[–]Leadboy 95 points96 points ago

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Bad lines are bad :(

[–]Scudda 30 points31 points ago

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And, for the record, I'm not a prequel-hater.

I've come to the conclusion that Anakin was just a tough character to flesh out and write dialogue for.

I always wonder what would've happened if Lucas scrapped the prequel project and picked a new starting point and story within the Star Wars universe to make three films about. For all the ire he's drawn, I still believe Lucas makes really fantastic work in a spacious sandbox.

[–]snottlebocket 15 points16 points ago

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You'd think a low born boy handed over to a monastic warrior society where his fears cause him to fall for the dark side would be easy to write.

It's such a dramatic character you'd have to go out of your way to twist it into to silly caricature that it eventually became. I mean conan the frigging barbarian did a better job at that particular character arc and they had to work around an Austrian body builder who barely spoke English.

[–]dominic-cobb 1 point2 points ago

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In Arnold's defense, he is fucking awesome.

[–]tins1 11 points12 points ago

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The rest of us respectfully disagree :P

[–]Trollfailbot 39 points40 points ago

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[–]BenderTime 39 points40 points ago

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fightin' around the world!

[–]Kennethnoisewasser 25 points26 points ago

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Come on Tugg'a!

[–]orange_jooze 12 points13 points ago

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I think he was too old to play Anakin at that point.

[–]Rapidity 2 points3 points ago

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Nah, Lucas could just do a quick rewrite.

[–]zettabyte 7 points8 points ago

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You forgot "NOOOOOOO!"

[–]reddKidney 5 points6 points ago

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you forgot:

"I love you more" "no I love you more."

[–]Joe_Kehr 1 point2 points ago

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That's the cool thing about a movie being dubbed in German: Excellent voice actors. The bad acting was most obvious to me, when I watched the English original. You don't know how much better Arnold Schwarzenegger movies are in German (and, no, he does not the voice-over work). And don't get me started with Bruce Willis...

[–]thegreattrun 1 point2 points ago

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[–]Azrael_Ferrum 1 point2 points ago

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I did it in a Christian Bale batman voice and it went okay

[–]Anthem26 22 points23 points ago

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Fun Fact: Reese, from Malcom in the Middle, actually auditioned for the role of Anakin in the Phantom Menace.

[–]uncreative_username3 22 points23 points ago

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That gets me thinking that the kid who played Dewey would have been a much better Anakin.

[–]SpiffyAdvice 5 points6 points ago

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That gets me thinking that ANY kid would have been a much better Anakin.

[–]Tartarus14 9 points10 points ago

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Paul Walker auditioned for the role of Anakin in Attack of the Clones. I am not sure if it would have been better or worse with him.

[–]tinadoesmath420 1 point2 points ago

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I think this may be the only thing that could have made it worse.

[–]lex99 18 points19 points ago

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Like River Phoenix playing a young Indiana Jones in The Last Crusade. That was great.

[–]ScottCarmichael 15 points16 points ago

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River Phoenix was also a good actor (why the hate?).

[–]chris15118 15 points16 points ago

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I feel bad for Jake. His life did not seem to be doing so well. For the last 10 years everyone has been attributing the death of the best science fiction series in large part to him.

[–]uncreative_username3 4 points5 points ago

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I went to high school with him. He still gets made fun of by people for that role.

[–]Sajun 14 points15 points ago

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Wait.. I was wrong to attribute it to Hayden Christiansen or whatever that horrible actors name is?

[–]grayseeroly 1 point2 points ago

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At 14 he could be genuinely angry at being taken away from his home and mother with some gyes he hardly knows. He would have been a similar age to Padme (who was queen at whet 15?), and there could be some dialogue there about accepting responsibility even at a young age.

[–]Foaric 29 points30 points ago

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I could never get past the whole "bring balance to the force" bullshit. Balance?! Let's see on one hand we have a fuck-ton of Jedi, on the other 1, maybe 2 Sith. Well it looks like he balanced it pretty fucking well by the end of the third movie!

[–]Afterburned 54 points55 points ago

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There is actually a good explanation for how he brought balanced to the force, and I buy it. The interpretation of the Jedi was that bringing balance to the force would be destroying the Sith, but what they didn't realize is that they were as unnatural and out of balance as the Sith. Their attempts and policing the Galaxy and controlling their own emotions (even positive ones) alienated many force users. So Anakin did bring balance to the force by destroying the Jedi at the end of the 3rd movie, and then by destroying the Sith at the end of the 6th movie, and leaving Luke as the sole heir the Jedi tradition.

Well, if you read the EU novels Luke's new Jedi order is vastly different from the Jedi order of the prequels. It is a new and growing order that allows any force wielder to join and learn, it allows the Jedi to fall in love and have children, and it doesn't try quite so hard to police the Galaxy. The New Jedi Order is the balanced form of the Force, and is ultimately created in a world brought into existence by Anakin.

Lucas obviously didn't actually intend this, but I think it is a compelling interpretation.

[–]that_weird_guy 23 points24 points ago

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I wish prequels addressed that completely. But the biggest problem with the prequels is that Lucas cannot tell a story.

[–]JudoTravis 4 points5 points ago

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i agree with this

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Luke vs Vader, with Luke finally giving into anger, releasing all his hate on him, then he cuts off the hand. Looking at his own severed hand he realises that he is no better than the man he is fighting.

Ben vs Anakin = spinning lightsabers and lava

[–]DoctorEmo 46 points47 points ago

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[–]crackshot91 36 points37 points ago

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First thought: "No way am I watching the whole thing."

Second thought: "Goddammit."

[–]DoctorEmo 16 points17 points ago

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That's what I thought when I first saw them. Would re-watch them.

[–]ExecutiveChimp 2 points3 points ago

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I considered rewatching the prequels not long ago. Watched the reviews instead. Time well spent.

[–]Afterburned 10 points11 points ago

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This is, without doubt, the best explanation as to why the prequels are utter, utter shit. Not just "bad for a Star Wars film" but absolutely terrible as a piece of cinema. They have dry and emotionless acting, mediocre CGI (and too much of it,) lifeless settings, slow and empty plots, and are entirely devoid of character or energy. They are compelling only as evidence that there are worse things than genocide.

[–]idiotdidntdoit 5 points6 points ago

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can't help but wonder if lucas has seen the red letter media reviews, and gone : "God dammit, I'm a moron."

[–]JudoTravis 10 points11 points ago

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The CGI was definitely not mediocre. You can hate on those movies all you want, but in their given times the CGI was good. Especially in episode III. That opening battle scene was awesome as shit.

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[–]Rapidity 6 points7 points ago

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But, seriously, it was like watching a cartoon, not a real space battle. You know your looking at nothing but pixels.

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What is it with Ricks?

[–]dooposaur 17 points18 points ago

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it's probably just because i'm really high but my mind is hurting because of your method of numbering. i don't get why you went 1, 2, 3, 4, 5a, 6b, 7c, 8a, 9b

??

whyyyyy

[–]bollvirtuoso 58 points59 points ago

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The thing is, the original Star Wars series is extremely archetypical. It's almost note-for-note on Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey. There's a clear protagonist and antagonist, both of whom are a kind of synecdoche -- both represent something greater than themselves, with Luke as the entire Rebellion and Vader as the face of the Empire until we really meet Palpatine.

Plus, the film imagery draws very heavily from Kurosawa, which is what you want to do if you're writing a samurai film and setting it space. The prequels lost this sense of majesty -- I mean, just think about A New Hope, where the only characters in the first half hour were robots, and from the first glimpse of the enormous Star Destroyer and tiny ship, we understood immediately how vast and hopeless the conflict between the Rebels and the Empire was. The prequels lacked the sense of, well, epicness, replacing it instead with crude caricatures of character, built entirely on characterization rather than any actual character development, and a nearly plotless ensemble film juggling multiple lines of story that never build towards anything or resolve, instead of a clear, linear narrative.

To be sure, it was an attempt at a more mature form of storytelling in which multiple viewpoints were explored, rather than Good vs. Evil alone, but it fell flat because instead of a simple dynamic, there was no dynamic -- nothing is at stake. No characters clearly want anything except Anakin who wants escape slavery. But beyond this, for most of us, we know how it turns out before it starts, and yet the prequels were about plot, rather than character. You cannot hang the entire weight of a film on a turn everyone knows will happen ahead of time. The story should have always been about the tragic heroism of Anakin, how an innocent boy became the most feared man in the galaxy.

Instead, it was about a Jamaican rabbit.

[–]dimensional_dan 18 points19 points ago

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If Star Wars was The Hidden Fortress in Space then the Prequel should have been The Godfather.

[–]McLargepants 7 points8 points ago

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I agree with absolutely everything you said. Let me add, that I am a man slut for the hero's journey. And it should have staid good vs evil, rather philosophically based rather than a political story with the fallen hero in the back drop.

[–]mrpoopistan 1 point2 points ago

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No characters clearly want anything

What makes this radically worse is that the great threat isn't the great threat and we all know it all along.

You can pull this off. For example, if you watch a movie like The Usual Suspects, you figure out who Kaiser Soze is about halfway through. But, watching the events play out to Kaiser's escape is still fun.

That's why I feel the prequels would have been better served to be about Ben and Anakin.

What really fucks the prequels up is that Ben is not there for any of the moments that really push Anakin over the ledge. Ben's presence at key moments would have made Anakin's turn far more poignant.

[–]logicalmonkey 77 points78 points ago

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its not the story thats awful, its the dilivery, the shitty filming, cheesy lines and lack of emotion. so much could have been done with the story, but Lucas got too enamored with cgi and used it as a shortcut for everything. there where no sets or elaborate costuming to make aliens, just cgi.

[–]laminak 56 points57 points ago

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I watched them all recently, and I couldn't put my finger on what made them so bad until I realized that most every scene without a fight or action was very short. Like less than 1 minute short. These short scenes made all plot and character development parts of the movie very jumpy and choppy. The reason it appears so terribly acted with cheesy lines is that the viewer never gets a chance to become immersed in a scene before it switches to something else. Lucas didn't want to waste time with characters or plot development with two actors sitting in a room and talking for 5 minutes. He just wanted to CGI this thing into oblivion. That's where he failed.

[–]ScottCarmichael 108 points109 points ago

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You REALLY need to watch Red Letter Media's excellent (and hilarious) mega long reviews of the Star Wars prequels. The dude totally explains the editing issues you're talking about (in Ep 3 review I believe) and they are amazingly well done.

Here's part 1 (of 7!) on TPM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

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[–]ScottCarmichael 14 points15 points ago

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Dammit. This whole thread has me watching these again at 2am. :P

[–]lukel1127 13 points14 points ago

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I watch these every so often and find them better every time. WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAACE?

[–]Fuzzification 3 points4 points ago

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Just spend 3 hours watching them and I can conclude: WORTH IT.

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these are so god damn funny

[–]WeeBabySeamus 2 points3 points ago

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I was hoping someone would post this. Longer than the movies, but so much better too.

[–]andreGIANT 2 points3 points ago

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Was scrolling down looking for this! Go check this out right now! Good times.

[–]Axon350 2 points3 points ago

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That was an excellent video.

[–]BenjiBlakeway 1 point2 points ago

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He sounds like Zoidberg.

[–]MSpainting 1 point2 points ago

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That and the story was awful.

[–]elconquistador 1 point2 points ago

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fuck yes, the whole romantic scene where hayden is balancing himself on top of a fucking woodland critter did it for me

[–]_zoso_ 13 points14 points ago

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Lets not forget the completely wooden and emotionless "love story" that "develops" between Anikin and Padme. I mean Lucas must have tried damn hard to suck all of the life out of that performance.

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points ago

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jar jar binks disqualifies every point you made.

[–]DrunkenJarJar 8 points9 points ago

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ಠ_ಠ

Fuck it, at least I have my drink.

[–]ScottCarmichael 47 points48 points ago

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I skipped school and waited in line to buy a ticket for this movie and ended up seeing it three times that summer.

I actually liked it.

However, it had major problems. I think its biggest problem was the political/slow-paced story bits. Not to say I couldn't appreciate "more heady stuff" back then, but Star Wars was about action at its core. While I am a huge Trek fan and love TNG, the jump from old Star Wars to TPM is much like TOS to TNG. It went from action to talking.

I could see why people didn't care for that. The divide exists in Star Trek fans as well.

And no, while I didn't care for Jar Jar or little Anakin, Qui Gon and Obi Wan were very cool, as was seeing all the new official Star Wars characters, settings, ship, etc.

By far the best part of TPM was Darth Maul, a character I honestly thought was the coolest damn thing about Star Wars in ages. I sorta figured he may one day outshine Boba Fett and Darth Vader as the best SW character of all.

BUT THEN THEY KILLED HIM.

And IGNORED HIM IN THE FOLLOWING MOVIES.

As I said, the film wasn't terrible (much better than AotC and on par with RotS) but it just wasn't what people expected. And to kill off such an intriguing, mysterious villain so quickly? Terrible idea.

[–]drchickenbeer 29 points30 points ago

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Agree with much of the above. I would like to add what I think was the greatest deficit the prequels had vs 4-6:

There was no Han Solo character. There was no cynic, to look at all of the ridiculous things going on around them and operate as the audience's viewpoint.

[–]TheRedTeam 3 points4 points ago

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Darth maul was a shitty character who had no backstory, nothing to say, and whose costume was overdone to look evil.

[–]Sajun 2 points3 points ago

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Why not ignore him? He's not important beyond his death: It forces the future emperor to look for a new apprentice - Anakin.

I really can't imagine the only person who WOULD give a shit, his master, to give a shit.

[–]stargunner 11 points12 points ago

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i totally disagree on #8. episode II is chock full of cringe-worthy moments.

[–]jonuggs 26 points27 points ago

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The only things that I agree with you on is that the prequels "needed to be smaller", the political intrigue being poorly handled, and that the prequels paint Anakin's arc a bit more "shocking".

The prequels are horridly written. Period.

If the Star Wars movies are supposed to be the story of Anakin's fall from grace and subsequent redemption, then they are are hurried masses of poor writing, exposition, and melodrama.

Phantom Menace isn't a horribly paced movie, but that doesn't excuse the horrid script and lack of real character development for anybody in the movie.

Sciencing up the Force was, possibly, the worst mistake that he could have made. It removed all elements of mysticism from the universe. We don't need to be spoon fed a reason for everything, and Lucas gave in to the notion that the mystery needed to be done away with because he needed a plot device.

I actually enjoyed the Ben vs. Anakin duel except for the theatrics. We had seen lesser Jedi accomplish greater feats in all forms of media and we're given a great actor (Ewan MacGregor) and an unfortunate actor (do I need to mention his name?) miming hand gestures and twirling their lightsabers around. Luke Skywalker and Starkiller both rip spaceships out of the atmosphere and crash them to the ground. Anything else pales by comparison when you consider that Anakin/Vader is supposed to be one of the most powerful Sith lords ever. I wanted to see this battle come close to bending the fabric of time and space, not low key choreography and theatrics.

The fact that we knew who the bad guys were should have forced Lucas in to writing more cleverly. He should have made us second guess ourselves: "Well maybe it's not Palpatine. If it's not, how does he play in to all of this." It was too cut and dry because we knew the answer ahead of time, and his writing wasn't good enough to lead us away from that conclusion.

The prequels are watchable if you're not a die hard fan of the series. Otherwise they're rote and tarnished by a merchandising empire.

For my money, Genndy Tartakovsky's animated "The Clone Wars" did more to cement the tragedy of Anakin's fall than the prequels did.

Despite my difference of opinion (not very fleshed out but, hey, I've been drinking), my biggest problem with the prequels is (if you haven't guessed it by now) that Lucas treated Ep IV-VI as if they were self-contained. Each movie had definitive beats and moderate character development. Instead of keeping the same strategy with the prequels, he stretched these things out over three movies. His writing is his biggest failure.

I won't claim that he "raped my childhood", and there are elements of each of the prequels that I enjoy. Some could argue that it was impossible to live up to the expectations but, with Phantom Menace, he set the bar so low that there was no way to recover.

[–]Volsunga 11 points12 points ago

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Starkiller doesn't count, along with everyone's powers in the Unleashed series. It's an alternate non-canon timeline where force powers are multiplied tenfold (because it makes for a fun video game). Canonical characters shouldn't be expected to come even close to what you can do on the first level of that game, even the "most powerful".

[–]CuddleCorn 5 points6 points ago*

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What I find far more offensive than anything the prequels did to "rape my childhood" is the disgusting edits in the "remasters" of the original trilogy. My father passed starwars on to me by the original VHS tapes, and no way in hell am I letting those be replaced by a Greedo shooting first, crappy cgi music sequence at Jabba's, Hayden Christenson ghost, fancy DVD or BluRay.

[–]TheCodexx 4 points5 points ago

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You raise some good points, but the Prequels as a whole were a letdown and failed to really expand upon the lore properly or represent the past in a way that made sense. It wasn't brilliant, and on their own they're very average/bad movies that can't stand up by themselves. Most of the stuff they introduce is pointless or they just extrapolated things from the original films instead of filling it in. See me post above for more, but for example, Obi-Wan supposedly went around in Jedi robes on Anakin's homeworld for twenty years. who said Obi-Wan's clothes are traditional Jedi garb? Why would he wear them, then, if he's in hiding from an empire trying to kill all of his kind?

The political intrigue is hard to follow and a lot of moments in the films seemed aimed at children who don't care about any of that.

Anakin's turn doesn't need to be surprising, it needs to make sense. They cut some crucial scenes from Episode 3 that explained a lot of it, and in Episode 2 they spent time that should have been devoted to explaining he change with him being angsty and violent. Far too much time is spent on the love plot, and they don't explain why they should be together. Han and Leia's romance was handled much better in comparison.

Oh, and Midochlorians absolutely kill it for me. Episode 1 could have been the greatest movie ever made in every sense of the term, and the Midochlorians thing would have killed the entire Star Wars continuity.

You're right, the Anakin vs. Obi-Wan fight was good. It's arguably the best part of the entire Trilogy. But it lasted way too long and too much of it was to show of special effects and choreography. The choreography shouldn't be so clean, but the fight had emotion and meaning like all of the fights in the original trilogy. Had every fight been that emotional, the fight scenes in the prequels wouldn't have sucked so hard. They entirely missed the point and were all about fancy moves. Nobody fights that clean and fancy, ever. It's a little excusable when it's between two classically trained Jedi, but they could have slopped it up a little more for believability, especially as the fight dragged on and they both became more tired. The ending was also a little blech, but it came closed. It didn't exceed all expectations because it still failed a lot, but it did better than pretty much any other scene in all three of those movies.

[–]Weequay2 6 points7 points ago*

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Oh god, I can feel myself going into nerd mode...

However disappointing the prequels are, Ben vs Anakin at the end of Revenge of the Sith exceeds every expectations you had.

I have to disagree on this point because it easily sums up why I hate the prequels... Before those movies came out the audience could only imagine the clone wars and how epic the fight between Anakin and Obi Wan was. In our minds it was cool and mysterious.

The problem for Lucas was that if he didn't make the prequels as amazing as we imagined then they would fall flat and be seen as nothing more than cashing in. Unfortunately Lucas fucked it all up by taking the easy path and using way to much CGI so that it all looked and felt as fake as it really was. (especially the drawn out battle with fake lava and fighting on floating robots) ...and don't even get me started on the script.

[–]Caca_Refrescante 15 points16 points ago

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You might want to watch this.

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No the ending scene in Revenge of the Sith was absolutely horrible. Lucas did not know how to make those two characters actual people. I haven't cared less about them. If I don't care about them, when they swing their lightsabers in an almost fancy, super choreographed way while they spout lame, lame, lame dialogue it makes no sense and I don't care and it's horrible.

When Luke was mad at Vader you could SEE the emotion. This was...bad dude. I'm too tired I haven't slept I'm not articulated and I cant use words without saying dude and bro but ...I gotta call you out on that it was awful. Every fight scene was awful.

[–]mrpoopistan 11 points12 points ago

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Is there any way to override Reddit's order list?

[–]SyrioForel 8 points9 points ago*

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You missed the most important part:

The original movies were each about a group of unique characters going on an adventure. The prequels were about political intrigue.

The real reason Star Wars fans dislike the prequels, whether they realize this or not, is because those movies are in a completely different genre.

By the way, if you've ever felt like Return of the Jedi seemed so jarringly inferior to its predecessors, it's for the same reason -- it took the story into a different direction.

I'll give you a contemporary example:

Firefly. A show about characters going on adventures. Now, imagine if they created a prequel season where, instead of adventures, the show focused primarily on the intergalactic war between the Browncoats and the Alliance. If you think this would be a good idea, you're falling in the same trap as George Lucas did.

And one more thing... if you look at it objectively, of all the Star Wars prequels, The Phantom Menace is the only one that came even close to matching the tone of what Star Wars is supposed to be. If only Jar Jar Binks's animation and voice acting was more realistic and less like a walking cartoon, people would be able to look past that and see an old-fashioned adventure that is sorely missing in Return of the Jedi, Attack of the Clones, and Revenge of the Sith, the three least Star Wars-like films in the entire franchise.

[–]CuddleCorn 16 points17 points ago

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I dunno why Return of the Jedi gets a bad rep. It did a lot right.

[–]Afterburned 3 points4 points ago

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The prequels weren't very good even within their own genre. They didn't need any extra help to be utter shit. Even if they weren't branded as Star Wars films they would still be shittastic tripe.

[–]jayd16 1 point2 points ago

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Sith look like dumbfucks every time they refer to the Jedi as a cult

How so? They built a temple and talk about balance all day because they have a lot of bacteria. Sounds kind of cultish, right?

[–]cfuse 1 point2 points ago

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What I hate the most about the (unnecessary) prequels: Lucas managed to make a rich and complex universe, full of stories and wonder, something almost universally loved (and cherished part of many of our childhoods) and he took that and he made it boring.

Still, if Lucas hadn't taken a shit in our memories we wouldn't have these.

[–]thejesuslizard 1 point2 points ago

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However disappointing the prequels are, Ben vs Anakin at the end of Revenge of the Sith exceeds every expectations you had. And that's a rarity in movies, because showing a legendary story long after the audience has been told about it usually falls short.

That scene was terrible. I guess having the "higher ground" means you automatically win in fights. That seems to be what Ben was saying.

[–]ttustudent 1 point2 points ago

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I would have expect much worse from someone with your username.

[–]htpw16 1 point2 points ago*

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I cannot agree more with your first point. Fortunately and unfortunately I was a late bloomer in terms of Star Wars, I never was interested in watching old movies and lost interest quick which is why it took me so long to get into watching these movies. I decided to watch them in college back in 2005 after Revenge of the Sith came out mostly due to the movie trailers coupled with the history of the movies. I decided to grind through it and begin to watch the entire 6 movies in their intended timeline order. I mean, I knew WHAT Darth Vader was through pop culture and water cooler talk but was completely shocked and blind sided when I actually found out WHO he was. One of my greatest movie experiences ever and will never forget it!

[–]desertcombat06 1 point2 points ago

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Its a shame because it was expected to see this massive story on the fall of Darth Vader, but instead, we get this angst-ridden story about a kid who started off picking boogers from his nose in Tatooine.

[–]HelpMeThink 1 point2 points ago

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Let's be honest. It was all about making money. The only part which was good was the ending and that was because it was the only moment out of the trilogy where Lucas expressed his true feelings about the saga.

[–]LibertariansLOL 1 point2 points ago

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to be fair, the original movies are fucking awful too and are only loved because of the nostalgia factor

the younger kids who like the prequels more aren't less sophisticated. they just don't have the rose-colored glasses on because they didn't see the originals first

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only good thing about that movie was the n64 pod racing game. i remember my parents would rent an n64 from blockbuster aswell as that game, and i got to play it for just a little bit before bringing it back. but that was a bitchin tits game.

[–]McLargepants 8 points9 points ago

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I disagree! Jedi Power Battles was a badass game! But... I wasn't blessed with an N64.

[–]uep 2 points3 points ago

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I searched for this comment with the intent of posting it if it didn't exist. Only my phrasing was going to be that "at least it was responsible for the n64 pod racer." To this day it still comes up among my friends how great that was. The only game other than F-Zero that really gave you a good sense of extreme speeds.

[–]elpimpoloco 43 points44 points ago

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I don't know what you guys are talking about, I loved Star Trek.

[–]endofanera 7 points8 points ago

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Am i the only one who thought the clone wars cartoon by the guy who does samurai jack was better than the trilogy?

[–]RDJesse 7 points8 points ago

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There should be two shadows.

[–]denim-chicken 4 points5 points ago

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It did have "Duel of the Fates" though

[–]dmoore777 6 points7 points ago

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Storytime:

Alright so I was a little kid when this movie was coming out. I had watch the original trilogy at least 5 times. I loved star wars. (I even sorta looked like Anakin). I remember when my parents bought this poster for me to hang in my room, I was so excited yet so confused... Why did I see Vader as the shadow. I went to my mom frightened "Mom, he can't be Vader... why is Vader his shadow?!?" She just looked at me and said that that's what the movies were going to be about. I just started crying...

[–]azn_dude1 4 points5 points ago

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Phantom Menace Review

It's a lot of parts but really entertaining to watch.

[–]KirillM 5 points6 points ago

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Mr Plinkett worded everything that is wrong with the prequels better than any of us here could.

[–]MrGoodbytes 21 points22 points ago

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Lesse...

Episode IV: "What the hell are you doing?!" "Someone has to save our skins! Into the garbage chute, flyboy!:

Episode I: Jar jar steps in poop.

[–]FOR_SClENCE 49 points50 points ago

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As a kid seeing Star Wars in theater for the first time during opening week, TPM was the coolest fucking thing in the universe. How much you enjoy the prequels depends on how far you read into the original trilogy, and what age you were when you saw them in theaters. Being the perfect age when TPM came out -- I was six -- I was in the sweet spot for the new trilogy's demographic for all three movies. I thought all of them were amazing, and I still think the new trilogy deserves recognition. Watching the auditory and visual evolution as a result of technological progress influence the movies was extremely interesting to me, and made watching the original series that much cooler.

TL;DR Being the perfect age, the new trilogy captured my imagination as a kid, and therefore earned my eternal respect.

[–]RedditUser1186 32 points33 points ago

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That is the problem. The original star wars movies were a smash hit. They were not a movies for 6 year olds. They weren't art house films for 30 year olds, but they weren't for 6 year olds.

The original star wars series was, at the time, the highest grossing film of all time. It was not "cool when I was 6." It was a solid action movie for anyone who liked action movies.

Taking an unbelievably popular series that was beloved by people of all ages... and using it as an excuse to produce a cheap movie for 6 year olds is a slap in the face to everyone who wasn't 6 years old.

6 year olds was not the demographic that the star wars prequels should have been tapping.

[–]adambascle 4 points5 points ago

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There's also the part where Lucas was just writer/director of IV, and only writer of V and VI. However, he directed, wrote and was the executive producer (aka "there's no one above me to tell me when my ideas are fucking terrible") of the prequels. I think this is a pretty important detail people tend to forget about in regards to why the originals and prequels are so different.

[–]Major_Colvin 3 points4 points ago*

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Yep, when you're six, you're not smart enough to figure out how incredibly bad is the drivel that your parents are paying for so they can get away from you for a few hours.

[–]Sajun 6 points7 points ago

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You're.

[–]JustinAiken 4 points5 points ago

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Isn't that a teaser poster for that Star Wars movie that never came out? I remember being a bit disappointed when they cancelled the prequels...

[–]Lonelan 14 points15 points ago

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A long long time ago...in a galaxy far far away...

Naboo was under attack...

[–]PopeUrbanII 2 points3 points ago

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They are Star Wars films made the way movies are made now days away. As a child of the 90's I was right in the middle of the long-awaited release of the new Star Wars films and not untill I grew older did I realise the reasoning older generations didn't like it. I see it now however (Jar Jar). But for a child, for me I loved the films. I love every Star Wars film and it's without a doubt my favourite film series, favourite work of fantasy, favourite characters etc etc.

The role of Anakin I feel is the major flaw of all the new films and what let it down overall. Of course with the CGI it's hard to comprehend how much of a racial different type of movie they are. From men dressed as Wookies to armies of CGI battling each other.

But hey, I love every fucking film. I love Star War.

[–]username_was_taken 2 points3 points ago

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I suppose if Annakin wasn't such an annoying little shit and Jar Jar wasn't the parasite of the Star Wars series, it would have been somewhat more acceptable.

[–]Heterohabilis 3 points4 points ago

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Yeah, I remember both of the Star Wars movies.

I heard a rumour that George Lucas had a plan for a whole series of them. It's too bad that he stopped after The Empire Strikes Back. We'll never know what his genius might have wrought.

[–]nuviremus 2 points3 points ago

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Its called...for-shaddowing

Ba da CHING.

[–]bigspur 4 points5 points ago

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What I hated most about the prequels is learning that Luke was evidently the shittiest Jedi of all time. Most of the earlier Jedi could fling around X-wings without straining an eyebrow.

[–]Kuryer 5 points6 points ago*

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Obi: Anakin, Chancellor Palpatine is evil!

Ani: From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!

Me: If I /facepalm hard enough, can I erase my memory?

[–]mobyhead1 9 points10 points ago

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Cheer up, have a pizza roll.

[–]Chewie316 2 points3 points ago

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Seemed to me it was more important to have all these CGI action seens instead of a great story. One of the reason why Star wars is so popular is the strong story line. Such ashame!

[–]rossrad 2 points3 points ago

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i have nothing bad to say about it

[–]elconquistador 2 points3 points ago

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I remember seeing this poster and getting goosebumps just thinking how awesome this movie was going to be.

Fuck you, George Lucas.

[–]Timberbeast 2 points3 points ago

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I'm not sure what it says about me, but honestly one of my deepest, deepest desires in this world is that one day, many years from now, before I die and old man, The Lucas Estate empowers the next generation's Peter Jackson to re-boot the entire saga start to finish and do for Star Wars what Christopher Nolan did for Batman. Keep the main themes, the main characters, but lose all the hooky corny stuff and make it dark and serious and gritty the way a galaxy falling into barbarism would be.

[–]bobobano 19 points20 points ago

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It was a good movie if you were a kid, in the current generation. For those of us from the 80s they sucked, but in the over stimulated, crap saturated media they weren't that bad.

[–]dwaxe 21 points22 points ago

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When I watched Episodes I-III from second to fifth grade, I absolutely loved them.

But when I watched them again in middle school, the (now noticeable) shitty acting and awkward teenage romance killed their goodness.

[–]tehlonelydj 11 points12 points ago

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I think each of the three prequels had their moments. I mean episode one had that amazing pod race, the arena scene made Padme look like a total badass, and the execution of order 66 almost brought tears to my eyes. Sure they weren't as good as the original trilogy, but will any prequel ever surpass its predecessor?

[–]gerrylazlo 18 points19 points ago

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The Hobbit might. Or at least also be awesome. These prequels? Not awesome.

[–]Mr_eX 17 points18 points ago

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Ah, how quickly they forget...

The Hobbit is the original, and LotR is the sequel.

[–]gerrylazlo 15 points16 points ago

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We are talking about Movies here. Or did I miss something?

[–]marievska 3 points4 points ago

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The Hobbit is the original, and LotR is the sequel.

No. The Silmarillion is the original.

[–]bradygilg 2 points3 points ago

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The Godfather Part II was half prequel, half sequel. The prequel half was the best story of the series.

[–]theformer 10 points11 points ago

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Is this really thick sarcasm, or are you serious? Because honestly you may have picked three of the worst scenes in the prequels.

[–]suvir 23 points24 points ago

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wtf? I didn't think this movie was bad at all.

[–]Darric 1 point2 points ago

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I had this poster up in my room for ages.

[–]gigglesnelson 1 point2 points ago

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This poster was responsible for a 10 hour wait in line for opening night.

[–]Link867 1 point2 points ago

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I have a shirt of that from when the movie came out!

[–]FraggotMan 1 point2 points ago

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1999 called. they want their cliche response to an overhyped movie back

[–]fail_whale_fan_mail 1 point2 points ago

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This was hung up on the wall of my middle school English class and labeled as foreshadowing. Best way to learn a literary term ever.

[–]emelecfan2048 1 point2 points ago

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Say whatever you want about the movie, but the Duel of the Fates was a great lightsaber fight.

[–]FuglyShmugly 1 point2 points ago

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He has a TOOTHPASTE SHADOW? GENIOUS!

[–]SpaceyKraken 1 point2 points ago

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This was my first star wars movie in theatres, skipped episode 2, saw 3 in theatres as well then decided to watch the original trilogy from a friend's anniversary dvd box set and got fucking confused as shit when I saw hayden christensen next to ben kenobi and yoda at the end of RotJ.

[–]jeffro422 1 point2 points ago

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I can't believe I owned this poster when I was a kid and it took me 5-6 years to see the Vader shadow on the wall. Epic fail on my part at the time.

[–]burrite 1 point2 points ago

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One of the worst feature films ever made. Anyone who says otherwise is in comically pathetic denial.

[–]IhateKatie 1 point2 points ago

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Dude, it's the age old conundrum of great marketing for shitty movies. It's how they make their money.

[–]LuiSP 1 point2 points ago

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The problem with the entire prequels is the crappy political subplot (full plot?).

Take a look at the new clone wars cartoon, there are episodes in there that are nothing but politics. I tuned in to watch some Genndy Tartakovsky fast action and I get some boring Law & Orderish crap...

[–]emzs 1 point2 points ago

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Noo, you reminded me of this abomination. To me, to only Star wars are the first 3 (or the last 3, you know what I mean). The new ones are so bad that I mostly forgot about what happened in them. Let's try to keep it that way.

[–]WackMachine 1 point2 points ago

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I liked Jar Jar Binks

[–]anusmcgee 1 point2 points ago

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no mention of pizza the huts limo??

[–]souldeleter 1 point2 points ago

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Well, Darth Maul and Qui-Gon-Jin were awesome.

[–]xector 1 point2 points ago

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The biggest disappointment for me was: Why the FUCK didn't this guy have a bigger role? Like through all the three movies http://annelessing.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/darthmaul.jpg The most badass looking character.

[–]SheenChange 1 point2 points ago

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I got this poster as the film was coming out, but my parents wouldn't let me see it because they were hardcore fans of the original trilogy. I finally saw episodes 1-3 like two years ago, and I wish I hadn't.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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I loved Ep1, I fucking despised Ep2 and Ep3 was mostly badass.

It's only nerd rage that makes them sound bad. On their own, they are very entertaining films. Isn't that what movies were made for?

[–]BobbyDuwitz 1 point2 points ago

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This proudly hangs in my bedroom.

[–]fre1gn 1 point2 points ago

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People are overthinking. Episode 1 wasn't bad, and wasn't epic either. It was good, just as much as the rest of the saga.

P.s. downvote, anyone?

[–]j-bix666 1 point2 points ago

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It wasn't disappointing when it came out, then again I was seven.

[–]ufoNtexas 1 point2 points ago

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And I am supposed to believe that a protocol droid programmed in however many languages was created out of spare parts 30 years before by an uneducated child slave of 5yrs old. That then becomes Darth Vader? Writers write much? WTF