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[–]awinnarisyou 94 points95 points ago

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The only religious person on Mythbusters is Tory.

[–]Unarmed_Mephisto 20 points21 points ago

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Tory is the white guy that hangs around the asian guy and Kari Bryon, right?

[–]4InchesOfury 27 points28 points ago

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Yeah, he's just there to act stupid I think.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 4 points5 points ago

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although to be fair, I imagine most of the silly shenanigans that the team does is a result of the producers, not the cast. The show is chock full of tacky humor and bad puns, but worth it IMO, still a great show.

[–]RustySpork 6 points7 points ago

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I think the tacky humor and bad puns are part of the charm of the show.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I suppose.....if you find tacky humor and bad puns charming. I find them...well tacky and bad

[–]kintexu2 3 points4 points ago

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The only thing i ever remember of Tory is him faceplanting trying to jump the wagon on that bike. Behind the scenes stuff said it was his own stupidity while being egged on by Grant and Kari.

[–]kspr 1 point2 points ago

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Grant was not there back then. Video.

[–]kintexu2 2 points3 points ago

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Ah. thanks. i thought this was in that small section where both Scotty and Grant were shown sometimes.

[–]kspr 1 point2 points ago

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That could be true. All I remembered is that it was not Grant in this clip.

[–]Cragvis 8 points9 points ago

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they have to balance out the costars with a white guy, its always like that. Girl + ethinic + white guy. Look at any team that has a girl and a non white guy and the 3rd will always be a white guy.

[–]mickey_meatbags 5 points6 points ago

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Or he's there to portray religious people as stupid cause producers know scientific folk eat that shit up.

[–]HertzaHaeon 75 points76 points ago

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News to me. It's not like he shoves it in our faces during the show. He's scientifically minded and obviously works well with athists. That sounds like a good kind of christian to me.

Let's not start hating christians because their beliefs differ from our own, shall we? That's such a christian way of doing things.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 28 points29 points ago

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to be fair, Christianity does teach kindness and acceptance of other's beliefs and ideals, no matter their nature. It's just most Christians don't understand this, and give themselves undeserved holiness and the right to judge others, based on the idea that they are god's chosen, to go to heaven, and all others are evil sin-filled heathens. It's quite disgusting, how far from the original teachings that Christianity has gotten. If we all, not just Christians, lived like the prophet Jesus taught, this world would be a considerably better place.

[–]HertzaHaeon 15 points16 points ago

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Well, I wouldn't go blindly with what Jesus taught, but sure, you could do a lot worse.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 16 points17 points ago

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No. But you know what I mean. Jesus taught considerably more kindness and acceptance than his followers exhibit today.

[–]Veylis 9 points10 points ago

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Jesus had ample opportunity to declare loud and unambiguously that slavery was wrong. The golden rule is obvious we do not need a mythological story to teach us that. Especially not one with so many strings, loopholes and opportunities for misinterpretation.

Whether you think you "got it right" and they "got it wrong", your clinging to the mythology simply supports the radicals in believing that the overall mythology is real. Which is really insane.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 5 points6 points ago

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True. I'm with you, clinging to Bronze Age stories and morals is lunacy. All I'm saying is that Christianity today is, for the most part, very different from that of Jesus' actual teachings.

[–]clanksy 6 points7 points ago

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As Gandhi said "I like your Christ, but I don't like your Christians". I understand what you're saying and I completely agree. At the very core, what Jesus taught was love for everyone, and to share kindness. Although I do not follow Christianity, I sometimes follow Jesus, in the fact that I will look at some things he said, and apply them to my own moral compass.

I am glad you recognize how different Christianity is from when it started to what it is today. So few people realize this on this subreddit. To be honest, for me, it's like "I like your atheism, but I don't like your atheists".

[–]Archaneus 1 point2 points ago

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If you think Jesus' moral teachings are even vaguely good, I wonder if you've ever actually read that bit of the Bible.

[–]clanksy 1 point2 points ago

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Can you give me at least 30 examples of him teaching the opposite? Jesus talks a lot in the Bible, so it shouldn't be hard, especially if his teachings aren't vaguely about love.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 1 point2 points ago

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" But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" That seems pretty good to me. Not saying his morals are the best, or even considered good by modern standards. But to say his teachings aren't even vaguely good makes me wonder if you've read the Bible either.

[–]ew73 10 points11 points ago

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At the risk of sounding like I agree (I don't) and ironically playing the Devil's advocate here, I think that in the society Jesus wandered around in, declaring slavery wrong would be akin to someone today declaring combustion-powered vehicles wrong.

Technically, yes, but like hell I'm going to give up my Ford Expedition slaves.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 8 points9 points ago

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hahaha great fucking analogy. I've never thought of it that way before. slavery being wrong is a very modern idea. no doubt a good one. we have evolved to realize that other humans are not worth less than us simply because they are different. Something which most Christians seem to have failed to evolve to.

[–]Veylis 9 points10 points ago

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That is sort of my point. Jesus was obviously not divine and his sense of morality was far behind our current moral landscape. So trying to "live like Christ" is a waste of time.

Jesus ~Ignore obvious injustice and spend half your time mewling on your knees to a fairytale man in the sky.

We can certainly do better than this today.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 3 points4 points ago

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Jesus also taught kindness, acceptance, forgiveness, helpfulness, humbleness, to name a few. Don't get me wrong, he was very mortal and imperfect, but he had some damn good ideas. And religion is a terrible, corrupt, ignorance inducing, wretch of an establishment no doubt, but few bad things could come from living like Jesus.

[–]Archaneus 1 point2 points ago

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No, he really didn't. Stop perpetuating this modern mythology about Jesus' moral propositions. He said about a half dozen things that are halfway decent and the rest of the quotes attributed to this admittedly fictional character are in no way quality ethical propositions. Please go read the Bible again before you buy into this bullshit position.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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and he went full politirage when people were selling reposts in the main churches...

...."hey assholes this is for karma...gtfo with your blogspam!!"

[–]HertzaHaeon 1 point2 points ago

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Yes, I agree.

[–]sluggdiddy 6 points7 points ago

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Is that really the case? Early christians were all peace loving hippies? I might believe for the in-group, yeah they probably didn't judge themselves, but those in the out-group, were definitely being judged harshly back then and not treated very lovingly (why else were there all those rules to follow, if you didn't follow them you were a dirty sinner).there were many injustices going on then that jesus didn't even think to mention, he was more concerned with his end of days predictions and with showing up to a gathering of sick people and saving one of the crowd of hundreds (sucks for all the other people there) . And aspiring to live like jesus is a fool's errand because he was hardly even on level with the "best" morality of those times back then. Let us not forget jesus never dismissed the horrid teachings of the old testament, never condemned the actions taken by his jealous and vengeful god (which was actually him..? ), and well.. may have never even existed. When a majority of the world did live by what jesus taught, things were far from being perfect...

Anytime I hear about the loving jesus, I am always reminded of, "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes [shall be] they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Ok. fair enough. Obviously Jesus taught and did some pretty amoral shit, as did Christians of every generation. I guess what I mean is that many people are in fact genuine good people because they follow Jesus. Of course those kind of people pick and choose what to believe, but still, there was good taught. I'm just trying to say it's not all bad taught by Jesus. There was some good solid morals sprinkled in among the Bronze Age ideals.

[–]sluggdiddy 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah, my only problem is that it is up to the individual to decide to ignore the bad and accept the good teachings, and more often than not people who are good people would have come up with it on their own, so what is the point in the first place.it kind of defeats the purpose of having a book to base you morality on, because depending on what parts of the book you accept as true, the morality extrapolated from it can be as moral or immoral as you want it to be.

If we wanted to examine only the "good" parts, I still think I could find issue with things such as "treat others as you want to be treated", which is generally accepted as a good teaching but I think it is actually very flawed, at least in the way it expresses the golden rule. If I am not a christian, I do not wish to be treated as a christian, and likewise for the opposite. You should treat people as they wish to be treated, not as you wish to be treated. That is just a minor issue though..

[–]TriumphantTumbleweed 1 point2 points ago

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Most Christians I come in contact with are completely accepting of my beliefs. r/Atheism is a place to see mounds of the opposite. I think this subreddit gives a very skewed perception of how most religious people really are.

[–]phranq 1 point2 points ago

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My mother has known that I don't believe for a while now. She isn't as bad as the stories here, but she's very passive aggressive about it.

I think it's because she believes that I'm going to burn in hell forever or whatever.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 1 point2 points ago

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or perhaps you have a skewed view of Christians. Spend a weekend in the Bible Belt, you will understand very quickly.

[–]beastrabban 0 points1 point ago

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Are you saying Jesus is a prophet? Do you believe in prophesy?

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 3 points4 points ago

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He was a prophet in the sense that he was more humane than a normal person, especially of that time. He was a prophet in the sense that he taught many things and had followers. He was not a prophet in the sense that he had divine help, or was the son of god. That's the way I see it.

[–]saqwarrior 1 point2 points ago

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Soooo... he's not a prophet then.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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perhaps he's not a prophet according to your definition, or a Christians definition. But the way I define a prophet he is. Try re-reading the comment you replied to, that explains how he is a prophet.

[–]saqwarrior 3 points4 points ago

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How you define it is irrelevant - it already has a definition.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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It has dozens of different definitions. As do every word. So it's up to the context to specify which specific definition to use. That is all I am doing.

[–]Archaneus 1 point2 points ago

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That's absurd. I'm holding a rose and eating ice cream with it. Wait, you thought I meant the flower? Clearly from the context I meant the eating implement more commonly called a spoon. Use the right words to mean what you want to say and you won't have to pointlessly defend your stupidity.

[–]lemcott 0 points1 point ago

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Christianity has gone*

Ftfy

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Thank you grammar nazi

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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To be fair, there's no way they would LET him do that during the show. He might just keep quiet during the filming, and then hand out bibles on street corners afterwards. ...But I'm a cynic.

[–]HertzaHaeon 4 points5 points ago

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Yes, that is cynical and hardly fair. It's in the realm of the possible, but the fact that it's a show about science and experimentation makes it directly incompatible with the fundamentalist mindset.

Unless Tory starts thumping a bible (maybe with some kind of bible-thumping robot) I'll assume he's an alright guy.

Anyone willing to make such a complete fool of himself on tv and laugh at himself has at least a healthy sense of humor and self confidence.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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I always look for the worst in people and try to turn it into humor. You're absolutely right, sorry if that bothered you. If I was serious or trolling, I probably wouldn't have mentioned that I was a cynic.

[–]HertzaHaeon 1 point2 points ago

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No worries. It was my fault for posting such a serious reply. :)

[–]DuoCultellus 33 points34 points ago

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Coincidentally, he's my least favorite on the show.

[–]ilogik 4 points5 points ago

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[–]gmano 3 points4 points ago

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viewed the trip as missions work.

Yep, still.

[–]ilogik 1 point2 points ago

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He didn't go there to preach or to hand out bibles (as far as I know), but he did install water filters.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 1 point2 points ago

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good for him, he pleased god with his good works. I still see that as less moral than doing it just to help your fellow humans.

[–]ilogik 1 point2 points ago

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but more moral than sitting on my ass all day, which is what I've been doing, so I won't judge

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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haha true

[–]DigitalCroissant 16 points17 points ago

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That is a weird way of saying "Unsurprisingly" before that comma there. :3

[–]littlebitofevrything 2 points3 points ago

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Coincidentally he seems like the stupidest one...

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 1 point2 points ago

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that's probably not a coincidence

[–]littlebitofevrything 2 points3 points ago

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Very good point.

[–]MJska 1 point2 points ago

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For some reason your conversation disgust me.. I think I'm just really tired and cranky...

[–]whitesummerside 29 points30 points ago

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[–]potterarchy 21 points22 points ago

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I think one of the defining moments of adulthood is the realization that nobody's going to take care of you. That you have to do the heavy lifting while you're here. And when you don't, well, you suffer the consequences. At least I have. (And in the empirical study I'm performing about interacting with the universe, I am unfortunately the only test subject I have complete access to, so my data is, as they say, self-selected.)

This man is so great. Thanks for the link, I'll be busy not doing work for the rest of the morning...

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 7 points8 points ago

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Yes, this speech is epically badass. I was torn between using ^ excerpt, or the one I did. I used the one I did because that first line caught me.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 4 points5 points ago

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good man. It's my fault. I should have put that link in here. That's where I read it too.

[–]inanevoyage 1 point2 points ago

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Nice find! I attended this and couldn't remember much of this speech.

[–]yngwin 16 points17 points ago

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I love him too. But it would look so much better with anti-aliasing...

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 5 points6 points ago

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yes I know. I apologize. I made this quickly, while half asleep last night, I forgot to anti-alias. I will fix it when I get off work tonight.

[–]ExecutiveChimp 3 points4 points ago

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Antialiasing is a myth.

[–]RussellG2000 12 points13 points ago

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I like what he said more than I like him. GO HYNEMAN!

[–]4InchesOfury 1 point2 points ago

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Erm... Thats Adam... Adam Savage. I think you're confusing him with Jamie "The Walrus" Hyneman.

[–]RussellG2000 24 points25 points ago

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I know its Adam, I am saying I prefer Jamie to Adam.

[–]Wazowski 10 points11 points ago

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TEAM WALRUS 4 LIFE

[–]RussellG2000 4 points5 points ago

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This deserves its own subreddit.

[–]4InchesOfury 4 points5 points ago

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Oh sorry, got a bit confused since it seems like you were commenting about adam, then randomly said "GO HYNEMAN" :)

[–]RussellG2000 5 points6 points ago

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Lol, its a on going fued amongst MB fans I suppose, just showing were my allegence lies.

[–]4InchesOfury 1 point2 points ago

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So like the twilight thing with jacob vs. edward?

[–]RussellG2000 8 points9 points ago

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A little more nerdy :P

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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** A little** more nerdy

ಠ_ಠ

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I don't think he's aware of the definition of "little"

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago*

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I've been thinking... he said

A little more nerdy .

That does not only imply that LoTR Mythbusters is a only a bit more nerdy, but also that Twilight is nerdy.

WAIT A MINUTE !!!

ARE WE COMPARING Lord of the Rings ***Mythbusters to Twilight ?????

[–]Eogram 4 points5 points ago

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Almost. The only difference is that the mythbusters debate is about dreamy guys.

[–]WhoMouse 19 points20 points ago

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The more I learn about him, the more I love him as well. :)

[–]parmaparmi 10 points11 points ago

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The same over here I was a fan of Jamie, but when you get to know Adam he's the bigger geek.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 2 points3 points ago*

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I like Jamie better too. Although, at least as far as some quick research yielded, he is less outspoken about his atheism that Adam. Which is almost the entire reason I used Adam, although both of them are ridiculously smart, and equally as awesome.

[–]HMS_Pathicus 8 points9 points ago*

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Less outspoken about his atheism

It never ceases to amaze me how reddit speaks of someone being "overtly atheist" and "coming out as atheist" and such. I have met people who were more/less outspoken about their christianity, everyone else I just assume is atheist/agnostic/"christian by family but never goes to church". I also tend to assume that nobody really believes in Jesus as son of god, and I'm usually right.

You should really give religion less importance in your daily lives.

EDIT: Accidentally a word.

[–]LiveOnSteak 16 points17 points ago

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America is about 40 years behind Europe in that aspect.

[–]miparasito 9 points10 points ago

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Where do you live? I want to live somewhere where that's a reasonable assumption and not a hilarious mental exercise.

[–]HMS_Pathicus 1 point2 points ago

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EU, Spain-France border, Spanish side.

[–]korvanos 5 points6 points ago

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I also tend to assume that nobody really believes in Jesus as son of god, and I'm usually right.

I'm guessing you don't live in the USA.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 2 points3 points ago

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or anywhere close to the Bible Belt. these moron will believe anything if it's in the bible.

[–]ftc08 1 point2 points ago

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these morons will believe anything someone says it's in the bible

ftfy. Those idiots don't actually read it. They just take whatever anybody says as fact.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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true. They believe anything if they think god would like it. You could use some twisted ass logic to convince a BB christian that killing every single baby on this planet was god's wish. And they would probably start a touring group, and go around the country preaching and singing, and slaughtering babies, in the name of god.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I just means there were less quotes by him out there. Which is why I used one of Adam's

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[–]j1ggy 2 points3 points ago

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That's obviously his fapping arm.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 2 points3 points ago

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good hypothesis. we now need to run many experiments. for science

[–]VelvetOnion 3 points4 points ago

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I love the beauty found in amazing typography. This is not one of those examples.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 3 points4 points ago*

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Hey, it's not that bad. I know it's not anti-aliased, my bad. still better than this, which as far as I could find is the only other post about this quote. If you like topography so much, and think this blows that much, go ahead and remake it with better topography. I won't be offended. here is the original image, and here is the globe i put in his hand. go to town.

[–]Obvious0ne 6 points7 points ago

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Adam's mention of Reddit's skeptical community is the reason I started coming here

[–]ChickenGrylls 2 points3 points ago

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I saw an interview Adam gave about Reddit that is why I come here now.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 1 point2 points ago

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I didn't know he did. Do you know where? in a speech or interview that he mentioned this? Id be interested in hearing that.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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This? It's an AMA he did I guess, I'm just starting to get through it so I don't know if he mentions the skeptic community yet.

[–]HMS_Pathicus 1 point2 points ago

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Commenting here so I find it later. Yes, I should really start using RES, but I'm not using my own computer. Please, please, show me where Adam mentions Reddit!

[–]Obvious0ne 1 point2 points ago

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I can't recall - it was well over a year ago - but it was something he said in an audio or video clip about fark, reddit, digg etc all having their own skeptical communities. I thought "hmm. reddit. Heard of it but never been there.. Maybe I should check it out"

[–]ChickenGrylls 4 points5 points ago

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I can honestly say that Adam Savage's work has been a significant influence to me in the last 12 months.

It was enjoying watching him on Mythbusters that caused me to Google more about him. I highly recommend the talks available on Fora.tv as well as the episode of Nerdist Podcast where Adam tries stand-up comedy for the first time. He also writes in Make Magazine which isn't available in the UK. When I saw he was to be feature in issue 20 I placed a subscription for Make! He's also a Redditor and a kick-ass prop maker on the Replica Prop Forum. As you probably know he's a regular at The Amazing Meeting too.

Brilliant work!

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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You by any chance know what his username is on here? I'd be interested in seeing some of his posts.

[–]ChickenGrylls 1 point2 points ago

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No I don't and even if I did I'd not say. I think it's fair that he be allowed to be just another Redditor. If I did know I'd only kiss ass anyway. I'd rather Reddit him the same as anyone else.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 1 point2 points ago

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Fair enough. I was not planning on barraging him, I'm just interested in his ideas, especially after reading the speech that this quote came from. But your right, if everyone knew, then he would be overrun with fans.

[–]danxmason 4 points5 points ago

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Yeah but some nutjob is going to ask "Who constructed the constructs?"

[–]asswipe_johnson 0 points1 point ago

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Philosophers throughout history have asked that question. Are they considered "nutjobs?"

[–]danxmason 2 points3 points ago

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Yes, since the word "who" implies a pre-determined conclusion.

[–]Eulenspiegel74 2 points3 points ago

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The little globe he is holding intrigued me, and after a little googling I found this.

Does anyone know if such a detailed globe (without the floaty mumbojumbo) is available somewhere?

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 5 points6 points ago*

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this is the original picture. I put the globe in, I figured that was more appropriate than a shiny ball of shit. here is the globe I used, here is one without the atmosphere (I'm assuming that's what you meant by "floaty mumbojumbo')

[–]OpinionGenerator 2 points3 points ago

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Too bad most theists aren't in it for the ordered universe...

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 1 point2 points ago

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True. their in it for the peace of mind is the idea that someone out there is giving a helpful hand every day, and of course the comforting thought that this life isn't all there is to existence. I'd rather know the truth, even if it is unpleasant, than live in fairy tales happily deluded.

[–]OpinionGenerator 1 point2 points ago

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I agree, I'm just saying this wouldn't be very convincing to a theist... in general, the coolness of a belief has little to do with veracity.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 1 point2 points ago

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very true. I think were on the same page here. This is a quote intended for an atheist audience, not a theist one. Hence why I put it here.

[–]killing_time 2 points3 points ago

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I get what he's saying, but I don't like the use of the word "construct" to describe the physical world since it's more usually used for subjective ideas or concepts.

It also lends itself to misinterpretation; I can already see a religious person going: "Who constructs the constructs? God, that's who."

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 1 point2 points ago

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construct doesn't have to have to mean "created by god". I can see what you mean thought. Rivers are constructed over hundreds of years by water flow for instance. It starts as a small trickle, and over time it wears down the surrounding earth and grows. That is constructed by nature and the laws of science. I guess that I what he is referring to.

[–]killing_time 1 point2 points ago

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Buildings are constructed. Rivers form. This is the most common sense in which the word is used and that's why I said using it in an unconventional sense will led to easy, probably willful misinterpretation.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Rivers form.

Who forms them? I mean theists are going to find a way to prove their beliefs, no matter how much reason and logic try and stand in their way.

[–]Think4Yourselff 2 points3 points ago

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That basically sums up exactly how I feel about religion.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 1 point2 points ago

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I know, it's beautiful. I find looking at the unknown as simply things we don't understand yet, is a much more awe inspiring way to look at the world, instead of "god done it". It allows for better appreciation of what we do already know.

[–]djstangl 2 points3 points ago

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I want one of those Earth balls.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 4 points5 points ago

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[–]djstangl 2 points3 points ago

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Thanks but those don't look exactly the same, the one Adam is holding is very realistic looking, must be Photoshopped

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 1 point2 points ago

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As the OP, I can assure you that it is very much shopped. This is the original picture, I found the earth more fitting.

[–]djstangl 2 points3 points ago

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Oh, the dung ball!

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 4 points5 points ago

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yup! one of my favorite episodes. I figured the earth would be more appropriate for this quote, rather than a shiny ball of shit though.

[–]holycow51292 2 points3 points ago

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Guess that particular myth...was busted.

YYYEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

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I've 99 problems but a god ain't 1.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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why hasn't there been a remix that says this?, or has there been, and i simply missed it.

[–]RocketPlumber 2 points3 points ago

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And that's another myth busted.

[–]MF-Brofist 2 points3 points ago

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God...he needs to accept his receding hairline, seriously.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 4 points5 points ago

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I reject your reality and substitute my own.

-Adam Savage

[–]Angry_Zarathustra 2 points3 points ago

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That nailed it. I think that the belief that all that we've accomplished is due to a god demeans all of our efforts, and attributing a hierarchy superior to something as ordered and beautiful as the universe is as close to a sin as I can think of.

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this is just what satan wants a godless world.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 7 points8 points ago

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I detect a troll in the area....

[–]AlanDill 1 point2 points ago

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Well, whatever murderous Yahweh doesnt want sounds good to me.

[–]CookieMan0 1 point2 points ago

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It's the feeling of, "Hey dad! Look what I found!" that makes it awesome.

[–]_Synth_ 1 point2 points ago

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I can just picture him grinning and gesturing like mad while saying this. It's a fun mental image.

[–]SadPenguin 1 point2 points ago

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At first I thought this was LadyBoners.

[–]Chrysalii 1 point2 points ago

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Why do I read everything he says in his voice?

[–]lawlm 1 point2 points ago

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MYTH-BUSTERS!

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 2 points3 points ago

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they should do one where the bust the myth of god. That would be the best episode EVER.

[–]LikeHonestlyBro 1 point2 points ago

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What the f*** is wrong with his arm???

[–]PointyNietzsches 2 points3 points ago

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Well, now we know which one is dominant...

[–]FLarsen 1 point2 points ago

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Perspective and a fish-eye type of effect. Things tend to get blown up the closer they get to the lens. This is why you should stand from a distance when taking a picture of someone, even if it's just of their face (using [optical] zoom is fine), or they might look fatter/rounder than they are.

Or it might just be his dominant arm.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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camera angle probably

[–]thesnakeinthegarden 1 point2 points ago

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Well, even with order and chaos not being terribly defined, I still think and love that our universe is chaotic. Just like we look at clouds and see bunnies and dogs, we look at small chunks of pattern in our environment and think that we live in a structured universe.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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good point, to a degree. There are obvious structures in nature. For instance the consistency of the seasons, and even down to DNA. but everyone sees that structure differently.

[–]thesnakeinthegarden 2 points3 points ago

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It's easy to call things that, by nature, repeat themselves order. But evolution is the action of mutation occurring in a pattern caused by a billion possible reasons. DNA itself was once a single strand, accidentally forged in the primordial ooze by random action, but because it randomly developed the characteristic (note that i didn't say ability) of self reproduction it's only natural for it to grow in quantity.

I am not trying to say that there aren't "rules" in nature, especially in physics that often grant us the ability to actually observe order to the point where we can predict what is going to happen, but the vast scope of actual and unknown matter and energy in our world alone limits these already short term predictions to moments or seconds in advance. This should be enough for most people to gauge the actual amount of "order" in the universe.

The whole discussion is moot though, because order and disorder are so unfairly defined. To begin with, they are abstract concepts, more in our perception than in reality but also opposite sides of the spectrum or the same thing. Complete order may exist and when we have complete understanding of the universe, we may be able to say that with some small mote of certainty, but that will never happen, at least as far as I could possibly predict.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I feel like order is simply humans attempt to understand the random world. Both examples I've used before are just our understanding of those things. All of the structures we have now are made up of deeper random things, which we have yet to understand.

[–]maddynator 1 point2 points ago

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who else heard ADAM actual voice when they read this :D

[–]CapnCheezburger 1 point2 points ago

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The only thing that's prevented Adam and Jamie from busting the God myth is the Christian majority in America.

[–]Tu5k 1 point2 points ago

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Wait a second...

That guy has the whole fucking world...in his hand.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Yes he does. He has great powers. Adam has found a way to harness the power of photoshop, and through this great power, he has the whole world, in his hands.

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[–]yeahitsawesome 30 points31 points ago

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I don't normally correct other peoples mistakes, but when I do, it is because they make fun of stupid people.

He's too

[–]FTFTW 5 points6 points ago*

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Out of strong confirmation bias for viewing redditors (and r/atheism especially) as intelligent people, ones who would not normally make those mistakes, I will just assume he's drunk and can't be bothered with correct grammar and spelling.

[–]ShitOnRickard5 7 points8 points ago

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ones

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[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Reason.dll is either missing or corrupt

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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whats your username stand for? Fix That For The Weak?

[–]HMS_Pathicus 2 points3 points ago

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I would think it stands for Fixed That For The Win.

[–]shrodikan 1 point2 points ago

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Fix That For The Win.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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O nice! It's so obvious now

[–]shrodikan 1 point2 points ago

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I used to think 'FTW' meant 'Fuck The World' at first. I was very confused. :P

[–]korvanos 1 point2 points ago

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"other people's"

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 1 point2 points ago

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I don't normally correct other people's mistakes, but when I do, I make mistakes of my own.

FTFY

[–]SSHeretic 2 points3 points ago

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Why are "atheist" and "religion" capitalized, while "Myth Busters" is not?

[–]Wogan121 2 points3 points ago

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You would watch a show more just because of one of the cast's personal beliefs which are unrelated to the show. Kinda sad bro.

[–]AlanDill 1 point2 points ago

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Well I wouldnt watch Pope-TV no matter how funny the Cardinals are.

[–]ungoogleable 1 point2 points ago

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I'd totally watch that, if only to gawk in amazement that Cardinals can be funny.

[–]AlanDill 1 point2 points ago

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I imagine it to be much like the three stooges. A bunch of bumblers tripping and slapping each other whilst kissing the big bosses ass.

Actually that sounds pretty good.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I would. But only if every joke was about child rape.

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[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 1 point2 points ago

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He's calling him shallow for watching a show based on his personal opinion of the cast, rather than the show as it is. Which I'm sure we all do to an extent, just with different shows.

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[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I mean ya, most people watch a show because they like the show. But everyone, to a degree, watches based on their opinions of the cast. I think it happens more the opposite way than discussed here, where you don't watch a show because you dislike the cast.

[–]Trax 2 points3 points ago

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The text needs anti-aliasing ಠ_ಠ

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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I know *facepalm, my fault.

[–]Leechifer 1 point2 points ago

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I wish he hadn't said "constructs".
That sounds like someone "constructed" them.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 3 points4 points ago

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the laws of nature and evolution construct the conceivable world. at least that's how I read it.

[–]Leechifer 1 point2 points ago

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Sure--I get it, but for a "prime mover" believer, they get a connotation: "we construct houses, ants construct anthills, beavers construct dams...so some $deity constructs the rules/the universe?"

[–]natholin 2 points3 points ago

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So?? There is no proof that our universe was not constructed by some other higher life form. Absence of proof is not proof of absence.

[–]Leechifer 1 point2 points ago

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So? So you know the null hypothesis.

You've helped my point, by the way--"constructed" seems to imply a "constructor"...when there is no proof of one, and it's a beautiful universe even if we have no proof either way, whether it instantiated itself or required a prime mover.
We don't know--and we don't have to know--or believe, for it to be beautiful and amazing.

[–]natholin 2 points3 points ago

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You sure read a lot into that. What I meant by it was that we do not know, and therefore are entitled to our own opinion. Your wish to remove that "connotation" is an example of your wish to control that which you have no control over, and in reality has no meaning what so ever. So Adam is an Atheist but what kind is he? You do not know, he maybe one of the Atheist who believes God may have existed at some point but no longer does, in which case his use of construct would be completely valid and yet no less Atheistic. Though he may not, and may have meant "evolution construct" as implied. Anyway I do not see how my OP proves anything you think or say.

[–]Atronach 1 point2 points ago

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just because there's no proof of absence doesn't mean it's safe to assume it exists. It's pretty damn impossible to prove something doesn't exist.

There is no proof that unicorns exist but there's also no proof that they don't exist so why don't you believe in unicorns?

[–]natholin 1 point2 points ago

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The comment I made: Absence of proof is not proof of absence. is a very common statement made by physicist and scientist. Also it is meant to convey that it is unknown and therefore would be very narrow minded to take a stance one way or the other. I never said it was safe to assume it exists, but was only pointing out that is also not safe to assume it does not exist.

Also you assume that I believe in God. And you assume I do not believe in unicorns. In all honesty Unicorns do not break any laws of physics (except for magic) but minus magic they are possible, and in an infinite universe with infinite possibilities they almost assuredly exist, just not on earth. Also with the possibility of infinite universes each with the possibility of alternate laws of physics it leaves open the possibility of the existence of almost anything you could possible imagine.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Also it is meant to convey that it is unknown and therefore would be very narrow minded to take a stance one way or the other.

No. It is not narrow minded to take a stance. Just an absolute stance is narrow minded, hell even closed minded. To claim to know for sure either way is quite false, and improvable. Hence your comment. But to say "it is highly unlikely that god exists" is not close minded at all, in fact that is quite realistic.

You should read The God Delusion by Dawkins. There is a chapter in there dealing with this exact issue. Dawkins very eloquently and with airtight logic and reason explains why god's existence is highly unlikely. But not impossible of course.

[–]natholin 1 point2 points ago

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He uses logic to rebuttal arguments that are based on the unknown, and currently unprovable, so I am not sure how that is suppose to prove anything.

Also when you claim to be an Atheist (assuming you are not implicit but are explicit) you make admit that God does not exist, which is in my mind a very absolute way of thinking, and is therefore narrow minded.

And to you other comment: Religion claims divine guidance. That is the difference.

Yes it is a difference but one that holds no weight as to the gravity of the action. It does not make one worse than the other.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 0 points1 point ago

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Also when you claim to be an Atheist (assuming you are not implicit but are explicit) you make admit that God does not exist, which is in my mind a very absolute way of thinking, and is therefore narrow minded.

you are assuming I am a gnostic atheist. Which I am not. I am agnostic atheist. Meaning as I said, I don't think it's likely or logical a god exists, but it is possible. Anything is possible. The sun could turn blue, or explode tomorrow. Not likely, but possible.

And try reading the book, anything can be explained or reversely destroyed by logic. You cannot judge until you have read.

regarding my other comment, please put your replys on the appropriate comment, that is why there are separate threads.

[–]natholin 1 point2 points ago

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In which case than the post I made does not apply to you, because it aimed at a person who is not agnostic.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 2 points3 points ago

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a "prime mover" believer could take damn near any quote or idea and twist it to prove a creator.

[–]redditnoveltyaccoun2 1 point2 points ago

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No matter how "cool" the atheist worldview is, no matter how awful and sad the christian worldview is.. none of this has any effect on the truth of either.

I find it a bit strange that r/atheism is inundated with these "atheism feels good" quotes but maybe it's to soothe those new atheists that had been brainwashed into thinking how awful atheism is (when they were religious).

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 1 point2 points ago

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the atheist worldview isn't as much "cool" as it is realistic. And the point of being rational and realistic is the pursuit of truth.

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I disagree. I think that universe makes absolutely no sense.

[–]JesusClausIsReal[S] 2 points3 points ago

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Going out on a limb here. But I'm willing to bet Adam Savage has done more observation and research of this world and universe than you have.