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[–]jayhat 37 points38 points ago

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I posted this in the other D-Day post, figured I'd post here too. I am not a religious person, just really like this speech.

Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force!

You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you. In company with our brave Allies and brothers-in-arms on other Fronts, you will bring about the destruction of the German war machine, the elimination of Nazi tyranny over the oppressed peoples of Europe, and security for ourselves in a free world.

Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped and battle hardened. He will fight savagely.

But this is the year 1944! Much has happened since the Nazi triumphs of 1940-41. The United Nations have inflicted upon the Germans great defeats, in open battle, man-to-man. Our air offensive has seriously reduced their strength in the air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. Our Home Fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions of war, and placed at our disposal great reserves of trained fighting men. The tide has turned! The free men of the world are marching together to Victory!

I have full confidence in your courage and devotion to duty and skill in battle. We will accept nothing less than full Victory!

Good luck! And let us beseech the blessing of Almighty God upon this great and noble undertaking.

SIGNED: Dwight D. Eisenhower

[–]jandalofdoom 4 points5 points ago

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This always gives me googebumps. I am also fan of the famous Churchill Speech:

"The gratitude of every home in our Island, in our Empire, and indeed throughout the world, except in the abodes of the guilty, goes out to the British airmen who, undaunted by odds, unwearied in their constant challenge and mortal danger, are turning the tide of the World War by their prowess and by their devotion. Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few."

[–]codyc61 8 points9 points ago

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Medal of Honor burned this into my mind

[–]goots 4 points5 points ago

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Oh, what would we do without our video games.

[–]kcg5 0 points1 point ago

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Came here to see this.

[–]Number09 9 points10 points ago

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I've been watching "WWII in HD" on Netflix streaming. If you haven't seen it yet, I recommend you take the time to appreciate the stories these gentlemen have to tell.

[–]yuhkih 1 point2 points ago

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This looks great, thanks for the tip.

[–]dcthomas82 93 points94 points ago

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Looked at that picture and said to myself, "Maybe there will be something on tv tonight or Saving Private Ryan or something. I'll check tvguide.com."

Nothing on PBS and History Channel is going to show Pawn Stars.

Kiss my ass, history channel.

[–]Xury 19 points20 points ago

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All weekend long History has had Saving Private Ryan on it.

In Canada, History is showing the Juno Beach movie... Then Pawn Stars

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[–]StarCraftFTW 1 point2 points ago

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Imagine watching Titanic with commercials on network TV. That would probably take the whole day.

[–]Kylrgn 1 point2 points ago

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This: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104541/ is the worst movie to watch on TV with commercials.

[–]illusiveab 2 points3 points ago

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[This](URL) = embodied link

FTFY

[–]Kylrgn 1 point2 points ago

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Thank you, I have been ill-informed for many ages.

[–]illusiveab 0 points1 point ago

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Formatting help is friendly.

[–]thickfreakness77 1 point2 points ago

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I'm excited to see that Juno Beach movie, it looks like it might actually be pretty decent.

[–]asaturn 28 points29 points ago

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but on Pawn Stars someone will try to sell a book of D-Day photos and the guy will have to call his buddy who is an expert on D-Day photos.

[–]starryknight 4 points5 points ago

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Then he'll get offered, "Like 50 bucks."

[–]asaturn 2 points3 points ago

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hey man 50 bucks is pretty fair, I mean, I gotta turn around, clean this thing, frame it, hang it up, then maybe I'll make like 5 bucks on it.

[–]ThisOpenFist 1 point2 points ago

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That guy has more friends than I do friendly acquaintances.

[–]asaturn 0 points1 point ago

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he knows a guy who is an expert on friendly acquaintances

[–]mattst88 4 points5 points ago

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It's a joke, guys. Why are you downvoting him?

[–]ccm139 4 points5 points ago

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Because people maintain no self control on this forum,,,

[–]MyCheeriosSpellOoo 5 points6 points ago

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The whole last week History was airing shows on the Civil War in remembrance of the 150th anniversary of it. So they are not just abandoning history for reality shows.

But yes I do agree that this day should be remembered by all.

[–]Lampwick 1 point2 points ago

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The whole last week History was airing shows on the Civil War in remembrance of the 150th anniversary of it. So they are not just abandoning history for reality shows.

Perhaps they've gotten better. Last year for the 60th anniversary of Pearl Harbor they had an Ice Road Truckers marathon. Many opined that the minimum requirement for being in charge of programming at the History channel ought to be the consultation of a "This Day in History" reference... you know, just in case something more noteworthy than Ice Road Truckers would be more appropriate.

[–]jack_spankin 3 points4 points ago

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First watch Saving Private Ryan, then watch Band of Brothers. Then read the book Citizen Soldier.

[–]KimJongIlSunglasses 11 points12 points ago

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Band of Brothers > Saving Private Ryan

[–]na85 1 point2 points ago

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Saving Private Ryan is on youtube in HD

[–]spanky701 3 points4 points ago

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I used to love the shit out of the history channel when I was a kid...Now its turning into a bastardized channel like MTV.Plus PAWN STARS IS FUCKING GARBAGE!!

[–]dressedAsDog 1 point2 points ago

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6:00 ET: "The most horrible accidents in the History of the toothpick"

[–]bananaswild 7 points8 points ago

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When I was in France, I met one of the guys to first storm the beaches of Normandy.. He said he can't even begin to describe what it felt like.

[–]NJ_Ahole 2 points3 points ago

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I have the good fortune of celebrating holidays with one of them, my grandfather. 67 years later, and he still doesn't talk about that day on Juno Beach.

[–]migvazquez 29 points30 points ago

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I have this as my background so when I feel like I'm having a bad day I can be reminded of what a real bad day is

[–]HotforSega 27 points28 points ago

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You think that's bad just imagine how the Germans' day was going.

[–]HeroOfCanton 11 points12 points ago

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Well, it started out pretty well...until the lost the cliffs.

[–]malaspinaOTT 14 points15 points ago

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Actually, they had had paratroopers land behind their lines all night, taking bridges, blowing shit up and doing all the crazy shit paratroopers do. Scumbag Hitler had put their armored reinforcements too far away to be of use, so they basically had to stay still and hope the Allies would stop rushing the beaches already. It didn't happen.

[–]ctrlaltelite 2 points3 points ago

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The armored reinforcements were far away because they were expecting an attack elsewhere. Something as big as Overlord would have been impossible to keep secret, so Allied Command let the plans be 'found', along with the implication that it was a diversion, with the real offensive in Norway.

[–]SteelChicken 1 point2 points ago

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Not Norway. Calais.

[–]ctrlaltelite 6 points7 points ago

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[–]ThatIsSoHot 3 points4 points ago

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Gentlemen, you have it all wrong - it is obvious that part of the original picture is photoshopped.

Here is the un-edited original [PIC]

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Because of people like you, 100 years from now no one won't be able to tell Star Wars and Saving Private Ryan apart. "Which one is fiction and which one is a re-enactment?" they will ask.

[–]ThatIsSoHot 0 points1 point ago

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But they are both real, right..?

[–]malaspinaOTT 0 points1 point ago

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The armored reinforcements were far away because they were expecting an attack elsewhere

Not exactly. There was the wrong belief that the landings would take place near Calais, and there were the contrasting opinions of Hitler's top generals.Without going into too much detail, some preferred to keep armored units close to the coast to launch immediate counter attacks on the beachheads, while others favored keeping those units in reserve to later attack and destroy the sizable forces the enemy would certainly have landed in the meantime. Hitler ordered them positioned at a medium distance, too far away for either strategy to be effectively executed.

[–]grandzooby 0 points1 point ago

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Wasn't that the basis of that old movie, "The Man Who Never Was"?

NPR also had a program on recently about the battalion of guys where were in essence psyops in WWII, trying to fake out the Germans about locations of Allied units.

[–]goots 0 points1 point ago

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Except for the hundreds of paratroopers that drowned in Rommel's flooded fields. Those floods might be why there wasn't a lot of armor...besides the whole "inflatable army" thing going on down the coast.

[–]Mulsanne 0 points1 point ago

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Scumbag Hitler had put their armored reinforcements too far away to be of use

It's actually more scummy than that. The armor could have had an impact if it had started moving into position when it became clear what was going on. However, in order to move the armor it required someone actually call up the chain of command and ASK HITLER. Of course it was the middle of the night, and Hitler is kind of a scary dude so nobody called (or maybe it was that they couldn't reach him, I'm not sure which).

At any rate, had they been able to mobilize their armor, it is entirely possible that we would have been pushed into the sea at Normandy. At the least, it would have been a lot more fraught if the German's weren't fighting with an arm tied behind their back.

[–]Pride_Of_Scotland 0 points1 point ago

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Don't forget the OST units.

[–]Osiris32 8 points9 points ago

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I've seen and done some things that some people would consider scary. I look at this image, and I can't even begin to conceive of what kind of fear must have been going through the minds of those men. While for some it wasn't so bad (Utah was a "cakewalk" according to Maj. Gen. J. Lawton Collins) it still chills me to the core to think about walking up that long beach under fire from rifles, machine pistols, machine guns, mortars, and artillery, all the while the big guns from the battleships off shore are pounding the place to pieces in front of you. I don't know what I feel for the men and women who were there (yep, women went ashore, too, nurses with several aid stations and divisional hospitals) but it's well past the term "respect." Admiration and awe are better words.

[–]VicePresidente 3 points4 points ago

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Me too, with the text "Harden the fuck up" on it.

[–]ScissorSmith 0 points1 point ago

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I had a similar picture as my background.

[–]miiiiiiiik 5 points6 points ago

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The Bedford Boys Ultimate Sacrifice on D-Day

http://worldwar2history.info/D-Day/Bedford-Boys.html

little town in Virginia lost a large portion of it's young men on D-Day

[–]one-half 5 points6 points ago

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[–]MyCheeriosSpellOoo 13 points14 points ago

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Can you imagine being on these transports hearing explosions and bullets right next to you and then all of a sudden the door drops and you're facing down the greatest sea barrier man has ever created?

Every single one of them had balls of steel and I thank them for that.

[–]GreenDisaster 5 points6 points ago

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yeah guys....I know you love the romanticization of war so much. the truth is however, it's not nearly as glorious as you want to imagine. these boys, on both sides, thrown into a war thousands of miles from home cried for their mothers when they had to face the last minutes of their lifes lying in the mud bleedin. don't get me wrong. I don't want to lessen their memory, but if mashine-gun bullets kill everyone around you and near explosions or shock waves make you faint you probably just shit your pants....that's actually realistic.

[–]MyCheeriosSpellOoo 1 point2 points ago

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Oh I complete understand they would be gripped by fear. But still enough of them trudged through hell to break the line and capture the sea wall.

[–]TheEllimist 1 point2 points ago

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What were they going to do? Run back into the ocean?

[–]Benlarge1 2 points3 points ago

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Come on Poseidon! Give me a fucking break!

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[–]km29 13 points14 points ago

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Most of those men in that picture probably never left that beach that day. God bless them.

[–]PhantomPhun 9 points10 points ago

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30% casualty rate in the first wave. So although awful, "most" were untouched to live or die another day. Battle of the Bulge took out of a lot of them later.

[–]Chive 7 points8 points ago

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The odds of getting off were actually pretty good. Out of a combined invasion force of 175,000 there were only 10,000 casualties including approximately 3,500 fatalities- in other words a 98% chance of at least surviving the invasion alive and a 94% chance of surviving it uninjured.

[–]Pride_Of_Scotland 2 points3 points ago

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A-Company was almost completely wiped out...

[–]bebopsruin 4 points5 points ago

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Repost, but so what.

I'm upvoting for what is probably the most balls-out moment in the history of warfare. There you are, in a tin can, with explosions going off all around you, a door drops and you're staring into the mouth of hell. What do you do?

Charge the motherfuckers.

[–]bradleymusic1 5 points6 points ago

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such an unnerving picture

[–]miiiiiiiik 2 points3 points ago

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those poor bastards

[–]flutesmurf 2 points3 points ago

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How did that look from the other side?

[–]Osiris32 2 points3 points ago

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According to Cornelius Ryan, who authored "The Longest Day," it looked as though the whole world was coming for them. Which it kind of was.

[–]Teslanaut 4 points5 points ago

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Is that a towel? Who forgot their towel?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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My grandfather was in WW2. He secretly took lots of pictures and developed them himself. Later in life he burned most of them, probably ashamed of what he'd seen/done. Several of them survived though, he didn't burn them all. Here's one of Iwo's Oceanside Apts. I have others, but the negatives are understandably in pretty bad shape.

[–]PhantomPhun 0 points1 point ago

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Cool, wish there were more.

[–]hexag1 40 points41 points ago

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Never forget that the defeat of the Nazis was mostly done by the Red Army and Allied bombers. D-Day was basically a sideshow to the real war on the eastern front.

[–]Lampwick 10 points11 points ago

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Never forget that the defeat of the Nazis was mostly done by the Red Army and Allied bombers.

The Red Army, sure. Allied bombing? No. The US Air Force was created by splitting it off from the Army based almost entirely on the premise that strategic bombing in WW2 is what brought the Germans to their knees, and as such demanded a wholly separate armed service so as not to get "distracted" by the messy tedium of responding to the tactical needs of ground forces. One of the key points of this belief--- one which was hammered into every Air Force Academy cadet--- is the notion that precision strategic bombing of the German ball bearing factories was the single greatest crippling blow against German industry. Years after the war, a former AF officer who'd heard the ball bearing story met Albert Speer, the former German Minister of Armaments and War Production, and asked him about the ball bearing factories. Speer's reply was (paraphrased), "ball bearings weren't an issue until after the war was basically already lost."

The guy then got an earful from the man who probably knew more about the subject than anyone else on the planet. His view was that the Germans knew from day 1 of WW2 back in '39 that they would have most imports cut of and that they'd have maybe 3-4 years worth of petroleum with which to conduct a full scale war. Victory depended entirely upon seizing Soviet oil fields in a timely manner. Failure at Stalingrad in winter '42 was the beginning of the end, and even the Red Army only deserves half credit for defeat on the eastern front--- the other half belongs to bureaucratic bungling in the German high command. By the spring of '43 the petroleum shortage was looming. Given that allied strategic bombing was still emphasizing aircraft and armaments facilities, and by the end of the war the Germans lacked pilots and fuel and had plenty of planes to fly, I think it's pretty clear that the effectiveness of strategic bombing is highly exaggerated.

[–]asoap 2 points3 points ago

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Hmmm.. interesting. I'm not going to dispute bombing. But I always thought the Germans were crazy to take on the Russians. But I never thought about their need for fuel. It makes sense now.

[–]Mulsanne 1 point2 points ago

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the effectiveness of strategic bombing is highly exaggerated.

While perhaps the effects of tactical air interdiction being understated? I've heard plenty of times of how German units were scared to be moving during the day because of the ubiquity of Allied Air power, especially after Normandy

[–]Pride_Of_Scotland 0 points1 point ago

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I've had the opportunity to sit in on interviews with Russian-Canadians while at school here (prof was doing a paper or something). He told us in some instances, Russians were on one floor of a building, Germans, on another, Russians on the third, Germans on the fourth. Said he still can't sleep 70 years later.

[–]rychan 8 points9 points ago*

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D-Day was basically a sideshow

That's just inflammatory. Can you find a respected historian that agrees with your classification?

Looking at numbers of deaths is misleading. The Eastern front combatants were absolutely brutal to each other. That doesn't correlate with military effectiveness. I.e. the Western front doesn't become unimportant because we took German POWs instead of killing them all.

I think the better metric to look at is German troop distributions. In December 1944, the Germans had 135 divisions on the Eastern front and 76 on the Western front. I wouldn't call that "a sideshow".

[–]ef4 23 points24 points ago

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It's the sad truth, you don't deserve the downvotes.

Soviet military deaths in WW2: 10.7 million American military deaths in WW2: 0.4 million

[–]sniperx99 35 points36 points ago*

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Deathtoll != contribution to victory.

EDIT: This doesn't mean that the Soviets were not the main reason the Allies won the war. But there are better ways of showing that.

[–]tuw34 14 points15 points ago*

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Pick any statistic you want with regard to the war in Europe and the USSR contributed more than any of the allied countries. Except maybe number of movies made about it.

EDIT: Total casualties is the simplest and best way of showing that the Soviets contributed most to the war in Europe.

[–]rychan 8 points9 points ago

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People aren't disputing that the Soviets contributed the most. We're disputing that the rest of the contributions amount to "a sideshow" to quote the OP. Death statistics are heavily tilted towards the Eastern front for several reasons, but I think this is the best statistic:

German force distribution, December 1944:

Western front: 76 Divisions

Eastern front: 135 Divisions

So the allies on the Western front were fighting 36% of German forces. I wouldn't call that "a sideshow", and neither would the Germans, when it forces them to commit more than a third of their forces.

[–]Dmoney2222 6 points7 points ago

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So if we are going by death statistics that means that China was a larger contributor than the rest of the Allies also?

[–]hexag1 1 point2 points ago

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Ok perhaps the word 'sideshow' is the wrong one. What matters to my mind is this: all of the biggest battles, with the exception of the air war over Britain, were on the eastern front. General Zhukov was the greatest soldier of the war. He oversaw the defense of Leningrad and eventually lifted the siege there (where the Soviet Union lost a million civilians). He won Stalingrad. He took Berlin.

Of course, none of that would have been possible without Allied help. But still, the Eastern front was everything. Hitler's idea had been to take over the eastern countries of Poland, Ukraine, the Baltic states (which he and Stalin saw as economic treasure) kill everyone there, and then use that as a basis for a huge German land empire. That's what the war was all about, and that's why the eastern front is the main stage of the war.

[–]tuw34 0 points1 point ago

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You are right that 'sideshow' is a little dismissive. I think the point is that most Americans think they defeated The Nazis almost single-handedly (All the 'we saved your asses in WW2' jokes directed at Europeans) while that simply isn't the case.

[–]hexag1 0 points1 point ago

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Actually, I think that we CAN say that "we saved their[your] asses" w/r/t France, Belgium, and the Netherlands. We just have to remember all the people we didn't save, which includes all of the Jews.

[–]tuw34 1 point2 points ago

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Not without a lot of help from England, Russia, Canada, Australia, etc who were fighting for 2 years before you joined in. You can say it, moreso, maybe to the Indonesians and the Chinese in the Pacific where you did do 90% of the fighting.

[–]hexag1 0 points1 point ago

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except that by "we" i'm including all of the above.

[–]tuw34 0 points1 point ago

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except the Russians, fuck them

[–]sniperx99 5 points6 points ago

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I never said the Soviets were not the main reason the Allies won the war, that is absolutely true. I just think that counting the number of soldiers they lost is not the best way to show that.

[–]raouldukeesq 1 point2 points ago

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Without American $ the soviets would have folded by 1942. Besides the fact that the Soviets had their own plans to conquer and subjugate Europe by force.

[–]randomfuoco 2 points3 points ago

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Money, weapons, planes, ships, tanks and equipment?

[–]tuw34 0 points1 point ago

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In regards to the allied war effort in Europe I would think that the Soviets led in most of those categories except ships and possibly money.

[–]randomfuoco 1 point2 points ago

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A lot of the equipment the Soviets used was actually supplied by the US. http://ww2total.com/WW2/History/Production/Russia/Lend-Lease.htm

Lend lease from the US to USSR amounted to about 20% of their armored vehicles, 16% of tanks, 100% of armored troop carriers. US provided 500k trucks, compared to soviet production of only 340k. 20% of fighters and 30% bombers in the Red air force were American made, and additional 10% British made. And remember is all in addition to what the US produced for themselves once they entered the war.

[–]tuw34 0 points1 point ago

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Lend Lease supplied a large amount of material during a critical phase in '41-'42 during which Russia might have been defeated without it, but it only amounted to about 10% of Russia's total war material usage.

Also, not to denigrate the American wartime output but they did have the advantage of not having the actual war disrupt production other than the loss of manpower.

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[–]tuw34 6 points7 points ago

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Yes, and the firebombing of German civilians was so much friendlier.

[–]GreenDisaster 4 points5 points ago

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yeah right and I don't want to destroy the nice little bubble you call your view of the world either, hjekeler, but american soldiers killed and raped innocent children and wifes in vietnam. I'm afraid....things like this happened and still happen in every war and are not only attributed to russians as well as murdering innocent people is not only restricted to germans.

[–]rambo77 5 points6 points ago

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The reason they made movies was called "propaganda". It has nothing to do with the way the war was conducted. Ask the good people of Okinawa -record number of women got raped somehow, and as far as I recall, those on the ground were not Russians. Not to mention the gruesome things happened there - like collecting skulls, shooting POWs, and everything you'd do when you fight against an "inferior race".

[–]raouldukeesq -1 points0 points ago

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Are you fucking kidding? You mean by the Japanese right? The US Marines on Okinawa we treated, and rightfully so, as liberators by the Okinawans.

[–]raouldukeesq 0 points1 point ago

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The USSR was busy with its own plans to conquer and subjugate Europe. Then, the USSR was getting its clock cleaned by Germany and only was able to hold on because of $$$$$ from the US. The Soviets did little than waste German bullets with conscripts sent off to slaughter.

[–]logicjam 3 points4 points ago

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Ordinarily, I think I'd agree. But if you've put up ten million people, I don't know what counts as a contribution.

[–]sniperx99 2 points3 points ago

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The ten million (which is also the highest end of the estimated casualties, more realistic estimates center around 8 million) becomes significantly less impressive when you consider the number of soldiers executed for retreating and deaths from the generally harsh conditions. I don't mean to belittle the sacrifice made by all the soldiers that died in the war, but number of troops lost is not a good method of measuring how helpful your side is.

[–]logicjam 2 points3 points ago

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number of troops lost is not a good method of measuring how helpful your side is.

Why not though? An ability (and willingness) to endure massive casualties seems pretty helpful in wartime.

It may also speak to the effectiveness of the Russia's forces, central command, and infrastructure that the Red Army made it to Berlin after such devastating losses, self-inflicted or not.

Moreover, what is a good method of measuring how helpful your side is?

[–]sniperx99 1 point2 points ago

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Why not though? An ability (and willingness) to endure massive casualties seems pretty helpful in wartime.

Because a military force can throw troops at an objective relentlessly and not be successful. Consider the extreme: you lose 100% of your troops. That's not very effective.

Moreover, what is a good method of measuring how helpful your side is?

I would point to the fact that the Soviets actually captured Berlin. They pushed all the way from Stalingrad, some 1400 miles, through one of the worlds most powerful military machines. Simply saying they were helpful because they lost 10 million troops is just stupid.

[–]logicjam 0 points1 point ago*

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Simply saying they were helpful because they lost 10 million troops is just stupid.

Contrast that to what was actually said.

An ability (and willingness) to endure massive casualties seems pretty helpful in wartime.

The extreme is not relevant though - Russia did not lose all of its troops and was still effective after devastating losses. If anything, the massive losses on the Russian side shows a level of dedication to the absolute victory doctrine. The German retreat from Stalingrad and the fall of Berlin to the Soviets were a result of the Soviets' ability to take heavy losses while counterattacking successfully.

[–]sniperx99 0 points1 point ago

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Sorry, I was referring to the OP who's first thought was to point out the casualties instead of the relevant information.

[–]maydaydemise 1 point2 points ago

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Yes, and 27 million total deaths. Which is why their victory day is such a huge deal.

[–]Pride_Of_Scotland 0 points1 point ago

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The didn't call it the Red 'Wave' for nothing. Russians would send masses of men at the enemy until they ran out of ammunition and were overrun.

[–]Sarstan 2 points3 points ago

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were it not for the Soviets, Britain would have fallen. Pretty much that simple.

[–]synn89 1 point2 points ago

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"Never get involved in a land war in Asia"

[–]hexag1 1 point2 points ago

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to anyone reading this thread, if you have the time, be sure to watch this fascinating debate between A.C. Grayling and Christopher Hitchens. They debate the ethics of area bombing of civilians, on the occasion of the publication of Grayling's book "Among the Dead Cities". It's a fascinating discussion with two learned Oxford gentlemen, who really know the ground:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Amongt

[–]Furious_Howitzer 2 points3 points ago

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By another equally horrible dictator.

[–]StableChaos 1 point2 points ago

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That doesn't trivialize the Soviet people's contribution.

[–]Afterburned 1 point2 points ago

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Actually I've read before that Bombing runs did very little to impact German production. The Eastern Front was just one front of many, it was hardly the "real war" like so many people like to claim. Russia was getting curb stomped by Germany rather consistently, and probably would not have actually successfully ended the war on their own.(although also wouldn't have been occupied) If nothing else they needed the massive numbers of vehicles, weapons and supplies the other Allies sent them, and the fact that there was a Western front at all meant that Germany had to fight on two sides. Indeed some of the most well trained and well equipped units fought in the West due to Hitler's incompetence.

Calling D-Day a sideshow is a massive insult to the some 10,000 American, British, and Canadian soldiers who gave their lives during the landings to free France from German occupation. How about you go to one of the cemeteries at Normandy and then try saying this was a "sideshow."

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The purpose of the bombings was really only to destroy Nazi fighter planes.

[–]sawbutter 14 points15 points ago

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[–]MaybeComputer 0 points1 point ago

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[–]Spazit -1 points0 points ago

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That's a pretty classy way of saying repost, I like it!

Edit: And what the what was the guy replying to you on about?

[–]psilokan 0 points1 point ago

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He was calling him a repost nazi.

[–]Lord_Mudcrab -1 points0 points ago

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You know, I understand calling out a repost if this was a comic or something. But with a topic like this you simply don't.

[–]hombre_lobo 1 point2 points ago

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Bunch of bad asses right there...

[–]captureMMstature 1 point2 points ago

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Amazing photo. I was mesmerized by it for like 5 minutes, it's a sad thought that a good bunch of those men died shortly after this. I like to just stare at it and wonder what the hell must of been going through there minds, fear, nerves, maybe even acceptance. I think we have done a pretty good job of remembering that they went through this horrific experience and gave up there worlds so that I can sit hear enjoying myself. Unlimited respect for them, I have no idea how I would cope with that. I love watching war movies and stuff like Band Of Brother and The Pacific, just to get a slight taste of how it would look to be on the ground in WW2. Unthinkable really, thanks for posting though!

[–]Xandaline 1 point2 points ago

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Balls of steel!

[–]zouhair 1 point2 points ago

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Yep, never forget.

[–]drunxor 1 point2 points ago*

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My grandfather was a marine and went in on dday. He got a purple heart after blowing off the toes on his foot trying to disarm a landmine. They mention him briefly in band of brothers. My hats off to him and all the other brave souls who risked their lives!

[–]WildfireFox 1 point2 points ago

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How are we supposed to forget about it? They keep making video games about it.

[–]HPiddy 1 point2 points ago

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[–]Rollingsound514 1 point2 points ago

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I've had that on my desk at work for about a year now and it works to cure me of whatever pussyness I'm developing about something trivial. I just look at the photo, remind myself that this act of courage actually took place and that these were just "kids" like me and immediately get on with whatever the fuck I was pussying out about.

[–]no13le 5 points6 points ago

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...to take a picture as you get to a place you've never been before.

[–]Fuck_You_Im_Scottish 5 points6 points ago

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[–]lurker818 9 points10 points ago

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MOHAA was an awesome game! this pic brings me back. Why in B&W though?

[–]DolphinRape 4 points5 points ago

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BALLS OF STEEL.

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and following orders.

[–]rambo77 1 point2 points ago

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Wasn't Pearl Harbor the never-forget thing? I forgot.

[–]spitfire690 1 point2 points ago

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I just watched a show about the Canadians taking Juno beach. I almost cried. It was the most heavily defended beach, the Canadians took it rather fast and pushed further into France on that day than any of the other allied forces. It really upsets me that the U.S. tends to have this attitude as if they won the war, and so they just shove Canada aside and forget about us. We were the most feared by the Germans, both world wars, we were the head of many major assaults including the allied advance into Germany, because we were the toughest. I always think of ALL those who lost their lives in the war, allied and axis, and so should you. Lest we forget.

[–]mahemahe69 1 point2 points ago

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what was the show called?

[–]spitfire690 1 point2 points ago

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Storming Juno.

[–]Justinsaccount 1 point2 points ago

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When I was in high school, my social studies teacher asked us if anyone know what the D in D-Day stood for. I said that it didn't stand for anything. He said I was wrong and that it stood for "Disembarkation Day". Everyone in the class laughed at me.

[–]desrosiers 4 points5 points ago

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Are you defending yourself? Wiki seems to say you're wrong:

The initial D in D-Day has had various meanings in the past, including Deliverance, while more recently it has obtained the connotation of "Day" itself, thereby creating the phrase "Day-Day", or "Day of Days".[1] On the same principle, the equivalent terms in French, Basque, Romanian and Slovenian are Jour J, E eguna, Ziua-Z, and Dan D.

[–]synn89 1 point2 points ago

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Everyone in the class laughed at me.

That'll teach you to stand out and take risks!

[–]Typical_NeoCon1 1 point2 points ago

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How quickly we forget the lessons we should've learned from those times. Now, we've got librals and marxist socialites trying to squeeze my taxes for their death panels. It's like Wiemar Germany all over again.

[–]sucom 1 point2 points ago

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Someone left their trash in the vehicle.

[–]I_Downvoted_Your_Mom 0 points1 point ago

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You should go check out how The History Channel is commemorating this historic day!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Every day is the anniversary of a historical event. What are they supposed to do?

[–]I_Downvoted_Your_Mom 0 points1 point ago

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This one is pretty big.

"Not even one special about one of the most important invasions in our history?"

"Nope, we got American Pickers to play all day!"

[–]cajungator3 0 points1 point ago

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I was at the D-Day Museum in New Orleans two weeks ago and there was a video of a soldier talking and he was talking about his friend saying that he couldn't swim. When the door to the higgins boat dropped he was the first out and then a huge wave came and pushed the boat over him. When I heard that chills ran up my spine due to the fact that nature was almost as violent as the bullets and other obstacles on those beaches.

[–]easydate 0 points1 point ago

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this may be a stupid question but can anyone tell me why i don't see mad cig butts on deck? i'd imagine i'd be smoking up a storm, so to speak, and i don't even smoke! maybe just flick them overboard?

[–]bafta 1 point2 points ago*

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They came ashore in a force 6 gale,had been in the landing craft all night,sick as dogs,wet through,frightened,extremely cold,hungry,couldn't light a cigarette even if they wanted to and might I add there were more Canadian and British landed at D Day than you know who.

[–]Osiris32 1 point2 points ago

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Because of sea sickness, many of the men wouldn't smoke. They said it just made it worse. Once they were on the beach, though, the almost didn't need smoke generators they were chain smoking so fast.

[–]easydate 0 points1 point ago

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thanks for the insight!

[–]naisanza 0 points1 point ago

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Photoshop > Blur > Set New Background

[–]AThousandSuns12 0 points1 point ago

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Amazing picture!

[–]SirSandGoblin 0 points1 point ago

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my great grandad was on one of those

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We already have none of the 17 to 30 year old at my house knew what D-Day was.

[–]rhubarb_9 0 points1 point ago

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My great grandad drove one of those boats onto that beach that day when he was 19 y/o. He passed away a year ago.

[–]nardonardo123 0 points1 point ago

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I've been to Normandy and have seen Omaha Beach. It is fucking enormous...those men had balls of steel.

[–]the22ndquincy 0 points1 point ago

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This thread is so controversial, everyone's getting downvoted...

[–]cryptie 0 points1 point ago

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What I'm using as my wallpaper... i want a higher rez one so i can print it out as a poster.

[–]aletheia 0 points1 point ago

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[–]melissa_belle 0 points1 point ago

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Never could...the one WW2 vet who was close to my heart is always on my mind

[–]chew_toyt 0 points1 point ago

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Fucking. campers!

[–]levune 0 points1 point ago

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[–]Vicinus 0 points1 point ago

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Both of my grandfathers killed allies in the 2nd world war. Both survived, otherwise i would not be here. I am german, i am an atheist, i hate nazis and i am glad germany lost the war. I sometimes just don't understand the world.

[–]ffffruit 0 points1 point ago

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This is called "Into the jaws of death" by R. F. Sargent

[–]ahoychips 0 points1 point ago

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A friend of mine has a poster of this in his room that says "MAN UP"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Those guys are way overdressed for the beach.

[–]siamlloyd 0 points1 point ago

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I remember this like it was yesterday.

[–]enig-o-matic 0 points1 point ago

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[–]agnosticpope 0 points1 point ago

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Yeh and don't forget it wasn't only Americans that landed on the various beaches.

Hollywood does not history make.

[–]uberrabbit 0 points1 point ago

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Today is my birthday, most of the time I try to remember.

[–]richred 0 points1 point ago

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Encore Avenue HD had Team America:World Police.... that'll do..

[–]PainfullDarkness 0 points1 point ago

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never will... never will...

[–]daveloper 0 points1 point ago

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I don't

[–]hastasiempre 0 points1 point ago

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June 6, 1944. LAST stage of WWII, only after Stalin was about to leave Yalta Conference the Allies joined the offensive in EUROPE, the MAIN theater of WWII. Just the facts. The war ended a year later. No disrespect but...NEVER FORGET!!!

[–]battalion 0 points1 point ago

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time to play Medal of Honor and listen Katherine Jenkin's "Hymn to the Fallen"

[–]Vatrik 0 points1 point ago

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All those poor German kids...

[–]LordOfPies 0 points1 point ago

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I always wondered why were the openings of the boat facing directly to the trenches, exposing the soldiers to enemy fire, if they faced sideways at least they werent as exposed

[–]strangenotastranger 0 points1 point ago

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As an international affairs student, I was pretty shocked today that not only did most of my classmates (in a 21st century warfare class) not know what today is, they were surprised the professor took the second part of class to watch the beginning of Saving Private Ryan.

[–]gargamel666 0 points1 point ago

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What Ron Paul would have done? What USA would have done if it hadn't any weapon industry?

[–]Little_Mouse 0 points1 point ago

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It's been too long since I have seen this photo without a strider or AT-AT photo shopped into it.

And that is sad.

[–]dsgm1984 0 points1 point ago

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Never forget poor Capa got most of his pictures destroyed, making his incredible act of journalism and personal bravery even more outstanding Bare in mind that he doesn't even have a statue in his birthplace, Budapest. :(

[–]TristanReveur 0 points1 point ago

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Once more unto the breach dear friends.

[–]ccm139 0 points1 point ago

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Never Forget: Those that defended our way of life,,

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Yeh that was a great movie.

[–]Kronkk 0 points1 point ago

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I wonder how long until a generation won't be able to instantly identify a picture like that. (Note: I'm 24)

[–]schmutzypants 0 points1 point ago

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Not to undermine the actual event which is a monumental and was integral in shaping history, but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e7R3y-qwZ0

The entire thing is amusing, and beginning at 4:45 is somewhat relevant to this post

[–]iTrollbot 0 points1 point ago

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That game ruled.

[–]GreeMou3 0 points1 point ago

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I have a question that sleepiness and laziness are keeping me from properly researching - maybe somebody here has heard this before:

I remember either watching a documentary or reading that in preparation for D-day, Britain was creating lots of crazy 'out there' inventive contraptions for ways to storm the beach. I can't remember the specifics, but they were basically making lots of prototypes of ridiculous sounding inventions - nothing was off the table. During that time, other countries (or just America?) laughed it off as 'those crazy Brits'.

Subsequently, Britain had enormously lower casually rates on D-Day due to using all these devices compared to America's 'run onto the beach without cover approach'.

I swear I'm not making this up, has anyone heard anything like it?

[–]BoBALOSA 0 points1 point ago

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Never forget is hell. In war, it's never who is right but who is left. Countless lives were lost On all sides, military and civilian. I myself never understood why the beaches weren't fattened by the cruisers and battleships or airforce. The poor paratroopers were scattered across their targets, with limited airsupport. Tank and crews were lost in the channel, still believe the landing craft is the worst design to transport troops to the beaches. Yes lets have the door open in the front, unload directly infront of bunkers not destroyed by sea or air and see "our" boys make it. Sure the art of war will tell you when you place your troops in front of the enemy and have no way to retreat, they'll fight to the death. Victory did arrive but at what cost? After reading about d-day (not from wiki) Im still holding the believe d-day was a military blunder that achieved victory. Eisenhower was a general invloved with poltics. Any one remember the feud between him and MacArthur? Both world war II and Korea they had a tough time seeing "eye to eye"....I think I'll stop there.

Take no offense to this, just an opinion worth two cents.

Side note: not sure I like this itouch...hating auto correct.

[–]4011isbananas 0 points1 point ago

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Release the kraken!!

[–]thewonderfularthur 0 points1 point ago

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forget what?

[–]jscoppe 0 points1 point ago

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How can I? I've played that level so many times.

[–]NorthDakota 0 points1 point ago

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Today is my birthday. :(

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[–]RyanMockabee 3 points4 points ago

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I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not trolling. Hopefully.

It's at Normandy Beach when the Allied forces invaded France on June 6th, known as D-Day, in order to begin their campaign to retake Europe from the Nazi's.

Normandy Landings

[–]batshit_lazy 1 point2 points ago

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Ah, the monthly karma harvest.
Looking good today!

[–]Erectwhenhappy 0 points1 point ago

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I had the joy of spending an hour getting a lecture from a WWII gunner on a Manchester that took part in a lot of bomb raids, it all happened in the Imperial War Museum in London. Hearing his story, which I sadly do not remember much of as it was a few years ago, and my video camera had lost power. But I remember it feeling like only five minutes had passed.

I made me truly realise what happened, I've watched movies, series about it, I've played video games about it, but hearing about it from someone who actually experienced it, that's heart touching. He is a true hero, whoever he is.

It's a great museum too, they have fuckin' P51 Mustangs and Spitfires hanging from the ceiling.

[–]Spongetoe 0 points1 point ago

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[–]Dengar 0 points1 point ago

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I love this level.

[–]Crow_T_Robot 0 points1 point ago*

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Here's hoping this doesn't get totally buried. Most of the soldiers and material was moved across the Atlantic by Liberty Ships. Basically slow moving floating warehouses. There is 1 Liberty Ship that was at Normandy that day still afloat, the SS Jeremiah Obrien.

She is still docked in San Francisco Harbor and is a floating museum. They take tours around the bay every once in a while and she went to France for the 50th anniversary in 1994. (edit: re-reading the webpage, it's the ONLY US ship of ANY type involved in the invasion to return in 1994)

I went just to check it out when I was in California. There was a meeting of the guys who run the ship now, mostly retired Navy guys. I spent a hour talking with a sailor who served as a Chaplin on the boat and met a few guys who were there in 1944. It was amazing just to talk to them and see the museum.

If anyone lives in the area or will be passing through this is definitely worth checking out. For the record I live in MA and have no financial ties, but this is totally worth donating to.