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[–]cruzlee 64 points65 points ago

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That's just a dog. Hard mode: TIGERS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AZn5nWIj_g

[–]farceur318 8 points9 points ago

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Every game should have a "Hard Mode: TIGERS" setting.

Can you imagine playing Arkham Asylum or Mass Effect or CoD or Civilization while wave after wave of tigers attack you?

[–]shiase -2 points-1 points ago

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it might have made some of those games a challenge

[–]JeremiahRossini 9 points10 points ago*

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And people claim we are not related to primates!... This is still one of the highest forms of humor for many humans, and rightfully so. What is the point of all of our intelligence if we can't use it for lulz?

[–]young-earth-atheist 16 points17 points ago

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We aren't related to primates, we are primates.

[–]shiase 10 points11 points ago

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we are also related to other primates

[–]SamuraiPizzaCats 6 points7 points ago

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We are family, I got all my monkeys with me. ♫

[–]3gv 1 point2 points ago

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We used to be primates. We're still primates but we used to be too.

[–]JeremiahRossini 1 point2 points ago

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We are related to primates and we are primates. Stating simply that we are primates does not imply the family heritage aspect as strongly. I could edit my post to drive the evolution aspect home even more but I wont.

[–]SirSandGoblin 0 points1 point ago

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I feel sorry for you that you are not related to anyone.

[–]leHCD 6 points7 points ago

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He wasn't just fucking around, though. He was keeping the tigers out of his territory by harassing them, whilst keeping himself safe.

[–]surfnaked 3 points4 points ago

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Oh yes he was fucking around too. It's both. Monkeys and apes and people we all know how to have a good time being a pain in the ass.

Thanks, that's the first time I've seen that one.

[–]JeremiahRossini -2 points-1 points ago*

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For the tiger example I agree but only partially. OPs post about trolling the dog seems to only serve the purpose of lulzing.

This gets into the instinct vs. motivation issue. Just like sex pleasurability helps motivate primates to reproduce, having fun annoying dogs and tigers helps remove predators from their territory.

Once our primate brains got smart enough, the instinctual purpose is still relevant, but we have warped all of these base motivations to other uses.

[–]theloniouspunk 2 points3 points ago

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Monkeys are funny

[–]leHCD 0 points1 point ago

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I was only talking about the tiger example, which is why I was replying to the tiger comment.

[–]JeremiahRossini -2 points-1 points ago

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Yep, and since they are the same species, I used the dog example to help argue my point.

[–]burketo 0 points1 point ago

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How do you know the dog wasn't in his territory? It seems to be almost identical behaviour. In both cases he's trying to get rid of the animal by pissing them off until they get sick of his shit.

I don't see where the difference is except for the knowledge that the dog probably won't eat him. That's solely due to domestication though. Dogs are carnivorous predators. They have all the characteristics that an animal would see as red flags like strong sprinting legs, snouts, big teeth, etc.

What evidence is there that the suggestion that he is having fun in either case isn't anthropomorphic?

[–]JeremiahRossini 0 points1 point ago

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I'm not a Gibbon, I wouldn't know how one thinks. We're all just speculating.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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What language is that?

[–]Chive 34 points35 points ago

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That's not a monkey, it's a gibbon.

[–]doppoq 48 points49 points ago

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It was definitely gibbon those tigers a hard time.

[–]beans_and_cornbread 6 points7 points ago

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That pun was a gibbon.

[–]chinajoe 2 points3 points ago

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Thanks darwin!

[–]readysetjk 1 point2 points ago*

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If we're talking cladistics (which I am), gibbons are a type of monkeys; all apes are within the monkey clade. Fuck paraphyletic clades.

[–]Shenorock 0 points1 point ago

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So it's also a bacterium? How far back do you take it?

[–]readysetjk 2 points3 points ago*

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Maybe this will help.

Regardless of what system, bacteria are not grouped in the same domain as eukaryotes. Think of a clade as starting at a point and including everything derived from that point. So whereas gibbons are eukaryotes, bacteria are prokaryotes. They're a totally different clade.

[–]Siurana 2 points3 points ago

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(Intelligent comment)

Irregardless...

What?

[–]monkeyjay 1 point2 points ago

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he meant unirregardlessly.

[–]forro535 0 points1 point ago

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Not without lack of disregard.

[–]readysetjk 0 points1 point ago

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Teehee.

[–]mx- 0 points1 point ago

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It's complex

[–]mx- 0 points1 point ago

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It's complex

[–]Shenorock 0 points1 point ago

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So eukaryotes weren't originally derived from prokaryotes?

[–]readysetjk 0 points1 point ago*

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Anyone, please feel free to correct the below. I work with primates not cells :).

Endosymbiotic theory is not concrete. There's no point in throwing cladistics, the most powerful phylogenetic ordering system we have, away because of the fuzzy origin of life. Yes, we need a clearer picture of the origin of eukaryotes. I don't know if this is the point you're making but different data leads to different cladistic results. It is a difficult and fuzzy process. Sometimes molecular data works for us, sometimes it doesn't, and sometimes it isn't even taken into account.

Here. So we have all life originating at 0. From here, bacteria diverges into one domain. Then at A1 we have Archaea and Eukaryota diverging, assuming endosymbiosis. Everything to the right of A1 we have Eukaryotes and everything to the left we have Archaea. So if we wanted we could group Archaea and Eukaryota within some clade, which is what endosymbiotic theory attempts to do I believe, and then group that clade with bacteria under the title "life".

Eukaryotes are derived from a type of prokaryotes but this means we have a divergence. Think cladogenesis not anagenesis.

And thus, ladies and gentlemen, we have the issue of why we should use paraphyletic clades only in conscious and specific cases. But really, this is all semantics and doesn't pose a serious problem to those who study these things, I would imagine.

[–]binaryice 0 points1 point ago

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So you say you work with primates. Why not say you work with monkeys if apes are monkeys too?

In what context situation is ape part of monkey and not a peer group within primate? Very confused, because you seem legit, but I've never heard of this usage.

[–]readysetjk 0 points1 point ago

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Besides monkeys there are other types of primates. A suborder of primates, Haplorrhines are all monkeys and these weird bug-eyed things called tarsiers. But there is another suborder called Strepsirrhini. These are all lemurs, lorises, and galagos. Extinct taxa include Omomyoids and Adapoids, which are probably early evolutionary forms of Haplorrhines and Strepsirrhines respectively.

Monkeys are everything in Haplorrhini, sans Tarsiers. This means new world (but less derived) monkeys like capuchins, old world monkeys (but more derived) like baboons and macaques, and apes (which I include humans in).

So, it isn't incorrect to call chimps et al. apes, but it is incorrect to say they're not monkeys. Clades are umbrella terms, they start at a point and encompass everything beyond that point.

I am most interested in strepsirrhines but I keep up with monkeys-formal, so I say I work with primates.

Here: Primates includes Strepsirrhini and Haplorrhini. Streps can be subdivided into lorisiformes and lemuriformes. Haplorrhini can be subdivided into tarsiers and monkeys-formal; monkeys-formal into old world monkeys-formal and new world monkeys; new world monkeys into a bunch of genera and old world monkeys-formal into old world monkeys (cercopithecoids) and hominoids; hominoids into lesser and greater apes; greater apes into pongines and hominines. Each level encompasses everything below it. Both pongines (orangs) and hominines (gorillas, pan, homo) are a part of the great apes clade. Both the great ape clade and lesser apes are a part of the hominoid clade. Hominoids and cercopithecoids into the OWM clade. OWM and NWMs into the monkey clade. Monkeys and tarsiers into the haplorrhine clade. Haplorrhines and Streps into the primate clade.

See how nicely it works out when things are cut clear? If we are not aware of the issue of paraphyletic clades then nomenclature becomes an unnecessarily confusing issue. Suddenly we have a clade of monkeys which ignores its evolutionary descendants. But we're working within the paradigm of cladistics (or phylogenetic taxonomy) in which evolutionary descent is all we're worried about! So what good is this clade if it just confuses matters? So I'm pushing for a correct nomenclature in which we shed paraphyletic clades (unless they achieve a specific end in which they should be used very consciously).

[–]binaryice 0 points1 point ago

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This is contrary to what my teachers, including Adrienne Zilhman (not to be a dick and name drop) have expressed in the past. Monkeys, I was told, only refers to Platyrhines and Cercophithecoidea, and wasn't strictly a scientific term, nor should it ever be used to describe anything within Hominoidea. Also that apes were only non human apes, and nothing in the homo line should be referred to as an ape.

Is this a convention that is more popular in say Anthropology, whereas primatologists have different conventions?

Just for clarity, my definition of 'monkey,' in which apes and humans are excluded, even though Platyrhines and Cecopithecoidea is included (which is weird because that's only half of Catyrrhine), is a paraphyletic clade?

Your definition is monophyletic, because it doesn't span multiple branches of the tree, it simply includes everything "upwards" in the tree?

[–]readysetjk 1 point2 points ago*

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Yah, it does traditionally refer to Platyrhines and Cercopithecoids. The term monkeys is not a clade in this sense. Simiiformes is the scientific version (one word for another) that alludes to the very same problem. Regardless, I am strongly against paraphyletic clades. I come from an phys anthro background and I have some specific reasoning as to why I refer to all extant non-Haplorrhines as monkeys and to humans as apes. We are a member of Hominoidea, no? Apes becomes another paraphyletic clade if we exclude humans and I don't see any reason to not include humans. It isn't the end of the world if people go on using the term monkeys incorrectly. I just would like to see people understand evolution properly; a part of that is good cladistics.

I'd argue that we haven't yet shed the scala naturae. We're getting there though and phys anthro is becoming more and more scientific with each passing day. But we are prideful beasts and it is difficult for us to view ourselves in an honest, scientific light.

Anthropology has some very strong traditional tendencies, regardless of the leftist push from the socio-cultural guys. I consider this our phylogenetic signal :). In this case, it is a signal we must shed. Just because there is a traditional way of doing things doesn't mean it is a correct way. So lets be accurate and honest.

My understanding has been that a clade is, by definition, monophyletic. Such is the origin of the term's strength. Phylogenetics relies on cladistic analyses. Paraphyletic clades just confuse things. There are different ways of defining the start point of a clade, but they all involve the "upwards" characteristic you referred to. If we're going to use phenetics or an alternative systematic system, let's just be honest about it. Such systems have their use at the appropriate times.

[–]Biscuit180 17 points18 points ago

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Anyone else make Zoidberg's fleeing noise when the monkey ran away?

[–]lightinthedark 13 points14 points ago

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Now I do.

[–]ffffffuuuuuuuuu 6 points7 points ago

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*Ape

[–]WillUpvote4Shoes 51 points52 points ago

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The first time I saw this .gif I laughed so hard I fell of my dinosaur.

[–]kremmy 30 points31 points ago

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The first time I saw it, I laughed so hard that they changed the word "off" to have 3 letters.

[–]ryobiguy 6 points7 points ago

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The first time I saw the "laughed so hard I fell off my dinosaur", I laughed so hard that I...

Actually no, I didn't laugh.

[–]Ipzero 8 points9 points ago

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It's the first time I've seen it and I thought it was hilarious.

[–]Bbbsccc 0 points1 point ago

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The first time I saw this .gif I laughed so hard I launched milk out my nose. Creating the Milky Way Galaxy.

[–]DidgeryDave21 -2 points-1 points ago

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The last time I saw this .gif I laughed so hard, I fell off your dinosaur.

[–]Bilibond 6 points7 points ago

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The first time my dinosaur so your .gif, was the last time my dinosaur saw a .gif.

[–]TheDreadGazeebo 2 points3 points ago

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The first time i dinosaur gif was fell, anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like.

[–]McBurger -2 points-1 points ago

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When I saw it, dirt was new.

[–]Mankelor 14 points15 points ago

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That is an ape ಠ_ಠ

[–]MonkeyInATopHat 5 points6 points ago

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I hate getting lumped into categories with apes, they don't even know how to dress

[–]Im_poster 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah, it's not a very ape-ealing thought

[–]vgbhnj 2 points3 points ago

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Old as shit.

[–]Lamalera5 3 points4 points ago

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Here is a rule that usually works: Primate without tail = ape

[–]misplacedme 0 points1 point ago

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But, that leaves prme-l, not ape :|

[–]MilkDaddy 5 points6 points ago

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Putting the word troll may earn karma, but I will give my opinion whether you like it or not. He's not a troll.

[–]TheReggular 3 points4 points ago

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Exactly. Gibbon isn't trolling Dog. Gibbon is annoying Dog.

If Gibbon were trolling Dog, Gibbon would have said, "'Sup, Dog? Apparently Cat said that photos of dogs can't get upvotes for shit." Then Dog gets angry, accosts Cat. Dog=trolled.

Nobody gets it anymore; trolling is a art.

[–]MilkDaddy 2 points3 points ago*

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One art, please.

[–]guyguy23 1 point2 points ago

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repost monkey

[–]thewonderfularthur 1 point2 points ago

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i love things like this. fuck all you repost bitches.

[–]hylobatidae 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah I do this all the time

[–]trollmonkey 1 point2 points ago

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Here I am...what do you need?

[–]birdflew 4 points5 points ago

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He's really gibbon that dog a hard time.

[–]andrey_shipilov 3 points4 points ago

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Maybe I totally miss the point of posting to Reddit. But what's the point of posting something that's gone old like for decades or so?

[–]cancerface 1 point2 points ago

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Reddit is getting shit on by organized, purposeful reposting/necro'ing of memes, and organized, purposeful upvoting of it.

Yes, I would rather believe in a conspiracy, than accept the rising banality of the average Redditor.

[–]andrey_shipilov 0 points1 point ago

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Indeed noble sir.

[–]GaijinFoot 0 points1 point ago

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For gone old like for decades never meaning to not do what it is for?

[–]RepostJesus 2 points3 points ago

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[–]omicron90 0 points1 point ago

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Funniest novelty account this week for me.

[–]colloquy 0 points1 point ago

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Awww... He just wants to play!

[–]chinajoe 0 points1 point ago

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Proof of evolution right here.

[–]marbsarebad 0 points1 point ago

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Gibbons are the shit.

[–]UnagiAnago 0 points1 point ago

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When he first ran away, all I could think of was, "WUBWUBWUBWUB."

[–]NihiloZero 0 points1 point ago

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Can there be any explanation for this action that doesn't concede that this monkey has a sense of humor?

[–]lawl-hammer 0 points1 point ago

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AAAAAAAAHH?
translation: problem?

[–]TREVI5001 0 points1 point ago

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Gibbons are apes, not monkeys

[–]SirSandGoblin 0 points1 point ago

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Fucking hell just look at those arms, seriously, look at them.

[–]wayndom 0 points1 point ago

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No sane person watching that video can deny that humans and monkeys are closely related...

[–]coltleader 0 points1 point ago

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When people ask what animal I would be I tell them I'd be a Gibbon.

[–]Doc88 0 points1 point ago

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Do you know why I love this little guy? Because he is simply enjoying life. It just puts a smile on my face every time I see this.

[–]GregKinnear 0 points1 point ago

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Sooooo old.

[–]aceofwades 0 points1 point ago

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Whooop whoop whoop whooooooooooooooop

[–]wulfgang 0 points1 point ago

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FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Funny! Thank you for sharing!

[–]anonymous-coward 0 points1 point ago

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Monkey, ape, repost, whatever. I just want to have a beer with the fellow.

[–]TheTrueRedSamurai 0 points1 point ago

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I don't care if it's a repost. Never saw it the 1st time.

[–]andybak 0 points1 point ago

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I have a hunch I know that gibbon.

No really. The dog looks familiar: http://www.youtube.com/user/andybak#p/a/u/2/UQDtrPYoPNs

It's a video I took near Khao Sok in Thailand where I was staying. Apologies for the 90 degree rotation. I never got around to fixing it.

There's a sad back-story about probably poaching and stuff that is worth knowing but I don't want to bring down /r/funny

[–]electrocuted -1 points0 points ago

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u mad, bro?

[–]orcrist747 -1 points0 points ago

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This is why we invented the internet.

[–]LibertariansLOL -1 points0 points ago

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i wish that dog ate that stupid thing

[–]Smokedvinyl -1 points0 points ago

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That's an ape, actually. Monkeys have tails, apes do not. The more you know...

[–]imjp -3 points-2 points ago

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LOL that actually made me rofl