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[–]heresyourhardware 137 points138 points ago

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From Wikipedia, apparently it is a misquote and originally came from Kruschev:

"After the flight, some sources claimed that Gagarin, during his space flight, had made the comment, "I don't see any God up here." However, no such words appear in the verbatim record of Gagarin's conversations with Earth-based stations during the spaceflight.[17] In a 2006 interview a close friend of Gagarin, Colonel Valentin Petrov, stated that Gagarin never said such words, and that the phrase originated from Nikita Khrushchev's speech at the plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU, where the anti-religious propaganda was discussed." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Gagarin

[–]Lokonopa 15 points16 points ago

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Here's the thread posted over a year ago that fixed the quote in the image.

[–]karateexplosion 2 points3 points ago

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If it was in fact said by one of the cosmonauts to begin with, then this is a pretty brilliant response by C.S. Lewis: “When a Russian cosmonaut returned from space and reported that he had not found God, C. S. Lewis responded that this was like Hamlet going into the attic of his castle and looking for Shakespeare.” – Timothy Keller, The Reason for God

[–]daviblight 3 points4 points ago

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yeah im kind of sick of seeing this because the fact he never said it... honestly if they just took out his name and put "the internet" instead it would be fine

[–]JJFO 6 points7 points ago

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"Well-known messengers get credit for clever comments they report from less celebrated mouths" --Thomas Jefferson

[–]captain_serious 2 points3 points ago

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-Michael Scott

[–]phreeck 0 points1 point ago

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I was gonna post that too, then saw someone else had.

It might also be noted that his Wiki page also says he had his daughter baptized shortly before his mission into space.

[–]MarmaladeMatt 8 points9 points ago

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Now that we know this is a mis-quote, can someone take the white lettering out of this otherwise badass picture so it can become my background?

[–]IdreamofFiji 4 points5 points ago*

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I found this, can't find it with the original colors though. I'll keep looking.

Edit: Apparently, it seems this may be the original artist. Check out his gallery for some bad ass wallpapers, named after some bad ass songs. Here is an awesome version for a phone.

Edit: Found it.

[–]MarmaladeMatt 2 points3 points ago

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Thank you good sir. Your efforts are appreciated.

[–]guffetryne 3 points4 points ago

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Or here for the picture with the quote but without the attribution to Yuri Gagarin. Makes it look like it's just some random astronaut saying it, which is awesome.

[–]Electrorocket 0 points1 point ago

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tineye.com is your friend.

[–]yorlik 26 points27 points ago

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(a) fake, and (b) it's not like he'd be free to express an opinion that differed with the party orthodoxy.

The Soviets achieved some incredible technical accomplishments, but don't forget that they were an evil totalitarian state, and if you look into their views about evolution, you'll see that they were exactly the same kind of anti-science fruitcakes that Fundamentalist Creationists are: they opposed Darwinism because it went against their philosophy. The facts and evidence were irrelevant.

[–]noreallyimthepope 2 points3 points ago

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I am of the impression that the problems with the "sciences dialectically opposed to communism" were waylaid by the death of Emperor Stalin.

[–]EditsAreForPussies -1 points0 points ago

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it's not like he'd be free to express an opinion that differed with the party orthodoxy.

Party orthodoxy was staunchly anti-religious, so I'm sure they would've been ok with this specific opinion.

[–]iunnox 10 points11 points ago

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I'm pretty sure that's his point.

[–]yorlik 0 points1 point ago

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Party orthodoxy was staunchly anti-religious, so I'm sure they would've been ok with this specific opinion.

That's exactly it: you expressed the approved opinions, regardless of whether you believed it.

[–]Sa1to 75 points76 points ago

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this isn't /r/atheism

[–]huxtiblejones 48 points49 points ago

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Even if it was, this isn't exactly thought provoking and it reeks of cold war propaganda. I'm an atheist to the core but this is silly and inaccurate.

[–]DV1312 8 points9 points ago

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quick, let's counter it with Apollo 8's christmas message:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFUx_KC1bHQ

[–]goodduck 31 points32 points ago

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nothing profound about soviet propaganda

[–]forgetfuljones 3 points4 points ago

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You have to dress up a reply like that, at least a little. If yuri said it himself, it's not propaganda. If one of his bosses attributed it to yuri later, then of course it is. Most people, me included, wouldn't have known w/o Heresyourhardware (above) having spelled it out.

[–]andrewms 2 points3 points ago

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Yuri would not have been allowed by the totalitarian Soviet government to express anything that contradicted party doctrine, of which atheism was a central tenant. An expression without freedom of expression is meaningless.

[–]forgetfuljones 2 points3 points ago*

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I haven't seen any indication so far that he actually said anything like this quote, so it's moot.

However, lots of non-party things that yuri is supposed to have said, one threatening the life of a soviet leader for making another cosmonaut (vladmir komarov) take-off in a rocket everyone knew would fail, have slipped out. The quote this article is about could have been one of them, I guess. Yuri's veiled criticism of administration, in pravda no less, was published. So his leash was apparently not that short.

[–]huxtiblejones 0 points1 point ago

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Seriously? A cursory understanding of google is enough to research the validity of any quote. If you just trust sources on the internet to be accurate, you can only blame yourself for believing misinformation.

[–]forgetfuljones 2 points3 points ago*

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What I said was that goodduck's comment by itself isn't very illuminating. No idea what tangent you are off on.

However, I'll add this: I have no intention of spending the rest of my life google 'researching' every single tidbit of info I come across. Ultimately, I could care less what yuri gagarin said or didn't say, I've made my own mind up about magic sky beings. There comes a point (pretty quickly) where you just have to go with what you think you know. Testing everything is not possible.

[–]lb-Cyber 0 points1 point ago

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"I don't have time to google whether things are true or not, I'm busy arguing about things on Reddit!"

[–]forgetfuljones 2 points3 points ago*

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Yes, that's certainly what I said.

For your information, I had gone and googled the quote, especially after "Heresyourhardware" above mentioned that Yuri was never quoted saying that, but rather attributed by Khrushchev. It's pretty clear to see how Khrushchev would be attempting spin. My reply to Goodduck is simply that no one can tell where he thinks the propaganda is coming from, based on what he typed. Everyone in the soviet union who's ever been quoted? Obviously that's wrong.

[–]UTRocketman 0 points1 point ago

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Would that also apply to people who made up their mind about magic sky beings opposite to your point of view?

[–]forgetfuljones 2 points3 points ago

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What has that got to do with anything?

[–]UTRocketman -1 points0 points ago

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People have made up their minds about magic sky beings, and came to the opposite opinion to you. In your opinion, do they also have the right to "go with what they think they know" and not be questioned about inaccuracy in their viewpoints? Just curious don't mean to start shit.

[–]dieomesieptoch 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and have the hivemind do that for me.

Why else does Reddit have a commenting system?

[–]huxtiblejones 0 points1 point ago

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I shit you not, this took me under 60 seconds to Google. My boggling and difficult search terms were "Yuri Gagarin I see no God up here":

Some sources have claimed that Gagarin commented during the flight, "I don't see any God up here." However, no such words appear in the verbatim record of his conversations with Earth-based stations during the spaceflight.[17] In a 2006 interview, Gagarin's friend Colonel Valentin Petrov stated that the cosmonaut never said such words, and that the quote originated from Nikita Khrushchev's speech at the plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU about the state's anti-religion compaign, saying "Gagarin flew into space, but didn't see any god there."[18] Petrov also said that Gagarin had been baptised into the Orthodox Church as a child, and a 2011 Foma magazine article quoted the rector of the Orthodox church in Zvyozdny Gorodok saying, "Gagarin baptized his elder daughter Yelena shortly before his space flight; and his family used to celebrate Christmas and Easter and keep icons in the house."[19]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Gagarin#Space_flight

I mean honestly, what do you think that keyboard is for? Shit, you could just copy paste from the reddit page.

[–]MaxChaplin 3 points4 points ago

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Hipster Gagarin has been to space way before you.

[–]ortucis 2 points3 points ago

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voice in the distance "LOOK TO THE LEFT!"

Gagarin looks to the left

voice in the distance "THE OTHER LEFT!"

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points ago

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Nineteen-fucking-sixty-one, incredible. These days we use awesome technology to keep updated on all of our friends toilet statusses...

[–]yoda17 0 points1 point ago

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Well at least these days we (no matter how lame) get to do it and not have to watch someone else.

[–]mrgibblechip 22 points23 points ago

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pretty sure it's a misquote but still good.

[–]h4x0r3d 4 points5 points ago

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"I looked and looked but I didn't see God."

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Yuri_Gagarin#Sourced

[–]sgtpeppers93 13 points14 points ago

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There's a bit of a difference. the quote In the picture makes it look like he said that while in space, but "I looked and looked but..." is written in the past tense, so that was after he came back.

[–]RedWave 0 points1 point ago

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Reddit informs me that this is the correct quote

[–]bishopazrael 1 point2 points ago

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where do i find the background image?

[–]stradivari310 0 points1 point ago

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[–]taylorloy 3 points4 points ago*

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My version:

Letter to the first poet on Mars

Do not say “red”.
Avoid mention of Ares.
In fact, don’t wax classical
at all.
Keep it simple.
Don’t drink the water.
There isn’t any.
Say there is.
Exaggerate the prospects
for terraforming.
Tell us the weather is nice.
Or, that it will be.
Wish we were there.
Tell us so.
Invent a new word
for red.
Write it.
Make a circle.
Better yet
construct a sphere.
Create a word for gravity
and place it at the center. 
Empty the sky of stars.
Give us a proper beginning.
Write: “I’ve reached the summit
of Olympus Mons,”
and, “from this sacred height,
I can see beyond Tharsis
a world without gods
who deal in war.”

[–]avsa 2 points3 points ago

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what is this?

[–]taylorloy 2 points3 points ago

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Just a poem I wrote that I thought was relevant.

[–]NancyFuckingDrew 1 point2 points ago

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Your version?

[–]taylorloy 1 point2 points ago

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Sorry. It's just a poem I wrote that involved a first person on Mars that saw and absence of gods. I figured it was relevant/parallel to the Yuri Gagarin scenario.

[–]NancyFuckingDrew 1 point2 points ago

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Googled a line, saw it was 7 years old and did a sceptical.

http://thehungerartist.deviantart.com/art/Letter-to-First-Poet-on-Mars-10737993?q=favby%3Ahalatia%2F1415959&qo=217

If you're TheHungerArtist, then yeah, it's really good :)

[–]taylorloy 1 point2 points ago

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Yes. It was published in a briefly alive lit journal (5 issues), Mimesis, as well.

Glad you like it. I just try to interject poetry (even old poetry) from time to time because I think we could all use a bit more poetry in our lives.

EDIT: Also, let me know if you call out any brigands posting my poetry as their own. I'd be much obliged.

[–]reply 3 points4 points ago

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Reddit hates God.

[–]sc00p 3 points4 points ago

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No, a big part of reddit thinks there is no god. You cant hate something that does not exist.

[–]quiggy_b 3 points4 points ago

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So I'm not allowed to hate a fictional character? Believing there is no god is equivalent to believing that all stories about god(s) are fiction, right?

[–]kadargo 2 points3 points ago

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I'm shocked that such a statement would come from a man at the heart of the Soviet aerospace complex.One must remember to put history in context and that the Soviets essentially replaced allegiance to God through the vehicle of religion with an allegiance to the ideology of communism.

[–]phreeck 0 points1 point ago

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Yuri never said this.

[–]ProbablyObnoxious[S] 0 points1 point ago

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[–]belandil 0 points1 point ago

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[–]bobbybarista 1 point2 points ago

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What's always amazed me is that this man was only 5'2"

[–]LallyMonkey 5 points6 points ago

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Tiny ship, tiny man.

[–]Space_Ninja 2 points3 points ago

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Yet, somehow still a bigger man than most of us.

[–]Electrorocket 0 points1 point ago*

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[–]UnSG 0 points1 point ago

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This image is misleading to what Gagarin actually believed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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The Soviets were atheists, and that was a comment from Nikita Khuschev not Gagarin. The communists nation had some serious anti-christian propaganda.

[–]stradivari310 0 points1 point ago

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I want this without the quote.

[–]sniggity 0 points1 point ago

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Funny, that's all I see when I look at space. I see the almighty power it took to create it. Now, I feel there is some sort of higher power, but not a man in a white robe with a flowing beard and big hands. But if that's what he looks like, then cool.

[–]keithburgun 0 points1 point ago

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Wait... do some people think that this quote has any significance whatsoever?

[–]Jalh -3 points-2 points ago

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He never said such a thing. And as a matter of fact, Gagarin was not the first man in space.

Cracked Article

[–]IdreamofFiji 3 points4 points ago

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Awesome story, but that is a contentious issue and definitely not a matter of fact =]

[–]api 3 points4 points ago

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We'll probably never know, given how secretive the whole thing was.

But there's no point in bashing a wonderful human achievement because the circumstances surrounding it were shitty. We don't take away Olympians' gold medals because we don't like the countries they came from or their politics. To do that would be more Soviet than the Soviets.

[–]Jalh -3 points-2 points ago

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It is a fact that Gagarin was not the first human in space since others have been there before. How is that not a fact ?

[–]IdreamofFiji 3 points4 points ago

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It is by no means a fact, it is what some people contend to be the case based on some radio signals picked up by amateurs. I agree that it's likely that there were probably some deaths in space before Yuri Gagarin, but like I said, it's a contentious issue and not a matter of fact.

[–]Jalh -2 points-1 points ago

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it has been claimed by the 2 amateurs and 1 German scientific.

[–]RedWave 0 points1 point ago

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[–]CominHome -1 points0 points ago

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Hey I have this design as a tattoo.

[–]Kyrias -1 points0 points ago

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"The Earth is blue and there is no god."

One of my favourite quotes from MGS4, but that's pretty much as far as it goes.