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[–]ShowMeUrrGenitals 18 points19 points ago

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The sad thing about this is the bird probably isn't just being a dick, her nest is probably right where the cat is snooping around. So her only chance was to try to scare the cat away, instead now both her and all her chicks are dead.

[–]mynewshoes 7 points8 points ago

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agreed. That's a mockingbird, and they are extremely defensive of their nests. I recall once when I was walking to class I saw a sign saying WARNING, DO NOT WALK NEAR THE TREE THERE IS A MOCKINGBIRD NESTING AND THEY ARE HIGHLY PROTECTIVE. shrugging it off I kept walking. Then I felt something in my hair, and then I realized there was a fucking bird clawing and pecking at my head.

so i ran away screaming like a girl.

[–]roberrt777 5 points6 points ago

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So a normal day for you right?

[–]mynewshoes 6 points7 points ago

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I wish I could have a normal day.

[–]Enadiz 0 points1 point ago

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"Mock...."

[–]Frank8472 2 points3 points ago

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I thought the cat's move was pretty cool though. As sad as the bird dying may be, this stuff happens in nature all the time. Whether people side with the cat or the bird changes nothing.

Had a human killed the bird for no reason, I would call it cruel though.

[–]disgruntledflier -1 points0 points ago

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The problem being that the cat also killed the bird for no reason. Cats kill wildlife so frequently that as many as a billion birds a year may be killed just because people don't think their little precious should have to stay inside or be in any way controlled. It's the same debate that happened decades ago when leash laws went into effect with dogs.

[–]Frank8472 1 point2 points ago

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Cats hunt and kill small animals by instinct. I'm not sure it's fair to deny them going outside because they will behave as nature intended. No one seems to mind when they kill mice.

I see part of your point. The cat population has been unbalanced by humans. But my parent's yard has been mouse free since they started feeding visiting cats.

[–]disgruntledflier -1 points0 points ago

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Unbalanced by humans? There was no feral cat population prior to European settlement. And while some outdoor cats help people (e.g., farmers) a similar function can be accomplished by putting up hawk and owl nest boxes. Dogs also have killer instincts, but again, we control them. The fact of the matter is that there are a lot of bird populations that are crashing, and cats are a significant source of mortality. To throw your hands in the air and say, "Ah well, whatcha gonna do? They're cats." is just irresponsible. So if you want to say that they should act as control, perhaps you should stop subsidizing the populations (feeding, keep your trash secure, etc.). Also, introduce dogs back into the system (in areas where dogs are also allowed to be feral the cat populations are significantly lower). These mesocarnivores/mesopredators (e.g., cats, raccoons, etc.) are hugely inflated and wreaking havoc with native bird populations - and they are all subsidized by people and allowed to proliferate because we have removed the top of the food chain (e.g., wolves, mountain lions, etc). Finally, to a person, whenever someone's cat goes missing because of a owl, coyote, eagles, etc. the person wants to go shoot the animal that took their pet. I've yet to hear someone use the "it's their instinct" argument for that side of the coin. Again, it's breaking the law to allow this, and I would like to see that law enforced more rigorously.

[–]dip-doodle 0 points1 point ago

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How passionate you are over something so trivial.

[–]Sex_E_Searcher -1 points0 points ago

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It's not like the cat lets the animal go to waste. My childhood cat basically didn't get fed in the summers, because she would catch all she needed.

[–]disgruntledflier 2 points3 points ago

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Yeah, so, because you stopped feeding it, that means it wasn't getting food from someone else. Also, it ignores the effects cats have on wildlife (not just birds, but small mammals, lizards, frogs, etc.). Read this article to gain a little more perspective on the impact of cats on wildlife. People who ignore the science about cats have some striking similarities to climate-change deniers - it doesn't fit your preconceived narrative, so you just deny it or justify it.

[–]Sex_E_Searcher 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, so, because you stopped feeding it, that means it wasn't getting food from someone else.

We stopped feeding her, because she didn't eat all her food, because she was hunting.

Do you lecture people who drive cars like this?

[–]disgruntledflier 1 point2 points ago

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No, I have by-and-large given up on the climate change deniers because to them science isn't as good as the last lawyer, PR firm, or CEO they last heard - so they aren't going to believe you no matter how many facts, figures or studies you throw at them. I did, however, have more hope from members of a community that by-and-large extols the virtues of science and admonishes our politicians when they ignore science. Instead, you want to talk about your lack of ability to care for your particular pet, ignore what it's doing (and the laws you were breaking in the meantime), and talk about my ability to lecture. I'll tell you what I tell the climate-change deniers, look it up - you're a big boy/girl. There are plenty of Fox News-esque sites about how cats aren't really that bad, and how you can let fluffy outside to assuage any guilt I may have engendered so you can console yourself and move on. Or you can look at actual research and figure out how destructive the all the cats on the landscape can be. Your call.

[–]Sex_E_Searcher 0 points1 point ago

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Look, I'm not dumb, I can easily understand how a newly introduced animal can destroy an ecosystem. It's when you come on here, /r/funny, and start doing this that it bothers me. This isn't the place for "stop having fun guys."

[–]disgruntledflier 0 points1 point ago

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It seems that any time should be a good time for an educational moment. However, I understand your point there. Having said that, may I suggest that in the future you lead with your thesis (e.g., r/funny isn't a place to learn). This would avoid confusion.

[–]Shampyon 0 points1 point ago

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You'd think with the amoud of cat-owning Redditors they'd know this, but most people seem to side with the cat...

[–]disgruntledflier -3 points-2 points ago

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Posted this last time this thing got posted - Technically, the owner of the cat could be charged with a misdemeanor and fined with up to $15,000 and/or up to 2 years in jail under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. The fact that this law is more rigorously enforced is depressing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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If you feel so strongly about this, perhaps writing your congress person/representative would be a better use of your time than lecturing random strangers on reddit.

[–]disgruntledflier 0 points1 point ago

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The problem with that philosophy is that the cat lobby is fanatic, and doesn't care about science and the birding/wildlife folks can't gain enough traction for a politician to come even close to supporting it. So, the first step is public education. We need to sway enough people that this actually is an issue. Not many people understand it is, or deny that it is an issue. You can see that even here, a community that is largely supportive of science, there are people who will argue until they are blue that their cat isn't an issue or that it's all part of "nature". So, when the opportunity arises I will try to educate and sway people's opinions. And if I can get a couple of folks to start keeping their cats inside, that's a win too.

[–]levishand 9 points10 points ago

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Did...did that cat fly?

[–]Lordoftheunderpants 4 points5 points ago

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That's what it looked like to me too. Damn, don't fuck with flying cats. They will fuck you up.

[–]willnunderscore 3 points4 points ago

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double jump.

[–]venky91 1 point2 points ago

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Damn that cat has hops.

[–]carlson_001 0 points1 point ago

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Last mistake that bird will ever make.

[–]wojosmith 2 points3 points ago

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True don't fuck with cats. As an owner of both cats and dogs I have seen one of my cats scratch the face of a Pit Bull and he ran away crying.

[–]j-random 0 points1 point ago

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Fucking bird is fucked.

[–]Osiiris 0 points1 point ago

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I finally understand what a cats tail is for...its a PROPELLER.

[–]fnork -4 points-3 points ago

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Fucking repost

[–]orionxx[S] 4 points5 points ago

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Fucking comment troll

[–]fnork -2 points-1 points ago

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Fucking karma whore

[–]TooEarlyForFlapjacks 1 point2 points ago

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Fucking fun-sounding username

[–]fnork 0 points1 point ago

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Fucking never too early for flapjacks

[–]orionxx[S] -1 points0 points ago

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Fucking agreed

[–]orionxx[S] 2 points3 points ago

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Fucking equally revolting? Except I like my life :)

[–]dfrankzor -1 points0 points ago

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I guess birds aren't that smart after all.

[–]jake619 4 points5 points ago

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And here I thought when people call me bird brain they were complimenting my intellectual ability. I am truly shocked.

[–]0reason -1 points0 points ago

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Not any more :(